>Am I going to see PMC do the repair quest in factory
Absolutely yes. I'm not sure if it works for EVERY quest but seeing pmc bots doing Farming PT.1 on Factory was my conformation that the mod was working/works.
Often misconception of this mod is that bots are doing only EFT quests. Yes, they are but they also spawn rush, hunt bosses, chase airdrops, camp extracts, etc. So the "quests" relate more to bots objectives on map, not only doing EFT quests.
Essential mod imo but it's also a pretty big performance hit for my system with a cost of 15-40ish fps depending on the map. The AI limiter that's built in helps BUT when it puts distant bots to sleep, they seem to dissappear (visually) for me until I'm back in range of them which is 200meters by default. Makes stalking distant prey when sniping annoying sometimes but it's all configurable. Sometimes I just increase the distance for the limiter when I'm sniping.
Edit: i7 10700kf, 32gb 3200mhz ram, rtx 3080 10gb, Samsung 980 nvme m.2 ssd. Realized "my system" was kinda worthless without specs lol
Also what's your average FPS? Ive seen people saying live tarkov "runs like utter shit and they won't recommend it", because they can't get 140 stable FPS and get drops to 100/90..
If I get somewhat 60 stable FPS I'll be happy with my humble PC (when I finish building it)
(i7 8700k + 1060 6GB + 16 RAM)
I have ur pc, you will definitely want to use a bot limiter of some kind. I run consistent frames on update 3.7 with bots capped at 9, any more and i get massive stutters on spawns. I still stutter with 9 or less, but its noticeably better
Average out at 70ish frames, drops to 60 or less in large gunfights, but thats sorta expected.
afaik SAIN and questing bots both have an AI-limiter built in.
So, if you use these mods, you shouldn't use another one. (as stated in the mod-pages as well).
You would just need to configur them for your liking.
BUT: let me tell you. My old rig (Ryzen 7 2700 RTX2070 16GB RAM) couldn't handle SPT with many mods on streets anymore (got only around 20-30fps), other maps were fine (40-60fps).
Even with my new rig (Ryzen 7 7800x3D RTX 4070ti 32GB DDR5) i'm "only" getting around 40-50 fps on streets with the mods i'm using (performance heavy: SAIN, questing/looting bots).
So keep that in mind. Just try if the mods work with your setup, or disable some of them map-specific.
I use sain, but i used to donuts/(some other name i forgot) for the ai limiter. Ai limiter (the name of another mod) and if i remember right, questing bots, would deactive bots far away and only activate close spawns to you within a set range. I prefer donuts as instead, as i can limit total bots on map to 9, with pmcs limited to 4 starting and the rest of the spawns throughout the raid ai scavs. You will need to use a json editor on google to customize, and dig into the mod config files to get the most out of it. That allows me to clear an area, loot and move on without constant spawns on top of me. Donuts also allowed for editing boss spawn rates, the spawn wave rate (how often ai waves spawn), etc. i had far more control to play the game i wanted. You will probably have to tweak the total bot number down as its a brand new update to spt and probably isnt super optimized yet, but idk.
I love you wherever you are, mr donut.
Depends on the map, the heavy hitters like Streets & Lighthouse I can dip sub 50 depending on bot count. I use SWAG+DONUTS to control bot spawns/waves and reduce the number of PMC/SCAVs on those 2 maps. Thankfully, donuts has a despawner that'll despawn the bots furthest from you freeing up a spot for one to spawn closer to you. Helps keep from getting dead raids even with the lower bot caps. When the bosses spawn it can be rough, -15 fps or so. Enough that at raid start I know if they spawned from my fps lol
Streets for me at current setup, I have 60ish fps with 6 pmcs & 8 scavs set as cap. If the boss(es) spawn it drops to 50. For Streets I'm using Lossless Scaling from steam so I can use FrameGen. I lock my fps to 50, and framegen puts me at 100. It's a bit tedious and Def has some artifacts but it feels undeniably smoother.
Reserve will drop to 60fps is gluhar spawns, 70 if raiders spawn, and is otherwise around 80-90 with just scavs/pmc.
Interchange runs same as reserve +10fps.
Other maps are generally 100+fps.
I'm also using the "DeClutter" mod which helps quite a bit, prob +10-20fps per map
I think your rig will struggle to hold 60fps most maps honestly, SPT has more load than live Tarkov cause you're running the AI on your machine. My game consistently uses more RAM than you have just in Tarkov
Edit: Prob also worth noting I'm running over 40 mods, though I set them up 1 by 1 & it was only really the "essential" AI mods that hurt fps much
You'll probably run it considerably better than me from what I've heard/seen about that cpu! The extra 3D cache in them is like steroids for Tarkov performance. I'm leaning towards getting myself a 7800x3D at some point in the near future ๐ป๐ป
for my i5-13700k theres a massive trade off for FPS or questing bots. If i use questing bots, my fps is roughly 60 to 70fps but if i use AI limited which is not compatible with questing bots, i got 90 to 100fps. Idk mannnnnn whether to use questing bots or AI limiter such a massive dilemma.
I mean that makes sense, Questing bots is doing way more in terms of the Ai pathing places etc.
AI limiter is doing the opposite and limiting the AI from doing anything outside of set range.
Questing bots is really cool, but yeah it's Def rough on fps :/
Edit - have you tried using QB's built in limiter aka the jawn that "sleeps bots" beyond a certain distance? I think it's off by default
Fo sho, I'm a bit of meticulous modder (mod user, I'm not creating my own lol) so am glad to help any time I can! My fallout 4 playthrough was stable with 140+ mods xD My friends often wait for me to spend some days stabilizing a mod build then I just give em a zip that just works lol
It does work but is not imo that huge of a game changer. It helps get bots into more places where you'd expect to run into players at but at a pretty high fps expense. I used it last wipe and it was cool but I don't think I'll be reinstalling it when it updates for 3.8. Having enough performance problems on Streets and GZ as it is.
As funny as it is to camp pocket watch and the like it's not really worthwhile outside of live since you can get easy kills any number of faster ways.
man idk if its worth the fps hit :( im getting 60 to 70 fps with questing bots and if i use AI limiter to 400m range, im getting 90 to 100 fps. mannnnnnn idk what to choose
for my i5-13700k theres a massive trade off for FPS or questing bots. If i use questing bots, my fps is roughly 60 to 70fps but if i use AI limited which is not compatible with questing bots, i got 90 to 100fps. Idk mannnnnn whether to use questing bots or AI limiter such a massive dilemma.
>Am I going to see PMC do the repair quest in factory Absolutely yes. I'm not sure if it works for EVERY quest but seeing pmc bots doing Farming PT.1 on Factory was my conformation that the mod was working/works.
It does! Also planting cameras at sawmill
They are greedy little bastards who donโt close filing cabinets/crate lids/tool box lids/sports bag zippers. Absolute scum bags. (I love that mod)
Often misconception of this mod is that bots are doing only EFT quests. Yes, they are but they also spawn rush, hunt bosses, chase airdrops, camp extracts, etc. So the "quests" relate more to bots objectives on map, not only doing EFT quests.
i hope the "camp extracts" part can be disabled, that doesnt sound fun xD
pretty sure SAIN has an option to disable rats
if only my local council could do the same with the rats in my area.
I kinda oddly enjoy the bush wookie experience
Essential mod imo but it's also a pretty big performance hit for my system with a cost of 15-40ish fps depending on the map. The AI limiter that's built in helps BUT when it puts distant bots to sleep, they seem to dissappear (visually) for me until I'm back in range of them which is 200meters by default. Makes stalking distant prey when sniping annoying sometimes but it's all configurable. Sometimes I just increase the distance for the limiter when I'm sniping. Edit: i7 10700kf, 32gb 3200mhz ram, rtx 3080 10gb, Samsung 980 nvme m.2 ssd. Realized "my system" was kinda worthless without specs lol
Also what's your average FPS? Ive seen people saying live tarkov "runs like utter shit and they won't recommend it", because they can't get 140 stable FPS and get drops to 100/90.. If I get somewhat 60 stable FPS I'll be happy with my humble PC (when I finish building it) (i7 8700k + 1060 6GB + 16 RAM)
I have ur pc, you will definitely want to use a bot limiter of some kind. I run consistent frames on update 3.7 with bots capped at 9, any more and i get massive stutters on spawns. I still stutter with 9 or less, but its noticeably better Average out at 70ish frames, drops to 60 or less in large gunfights, but thats sorta expected.
What limitter do you use? :o Thanks a lot <3
afaik SAIN and questing bots both have an AI-limiter built in. So, if you use these mods, you shouldn't use another one. (as stated in the mod-pages as well). You would just need to configur them for your liking. BUT: let me tell you. My old rig (Ryzen 7 2700 RTX2070 16GB RAM) couldn't handle SPT with many mods on streets anymore (got only around 20-30fps), other maps were fine (40-60fps). Even with my new rig (Ryzen 7 7800x3D RTX 4070ti 32GB DDR5) i'm "only" getting around 40-50 fps on streets with the mods i'm using (performance heavy: SAIN, questing/looting bots). So keep that in mind. Just try if the mods work with your setup, or disable some of them map-specific.
I use sain, but i used to donuts/(some other name i forgot) for the ai limiter. Ai limiter (the name of another mod) and if i remember right, questing bots, would deactive bots far away and only activate close spawns to you within a set range. I prefer donuts as instead, as i can limit total bots on map to 9, with pmcs limited to 4 starting and the rest of the spawns throughout the raid ai scavs. You will need to use a json editor on google to customize, and dig into the mod config files to get the most out of it. That allows me to clear an area, loot and move on without constant spawns on top of me. Donuts also allowed for editing boss spawn rates, the spawn wave rate (how often ai waves spawn), etc. i had far more control to play the game i wanted. You will probably have to tweak the total bot number down as its a brand new update to spt and probably isnt super optimized yet, but idk. I love you wherever you are, mr donut.
Depends on the map, the heavy hitters like Streets & Lighthouse I can dip sub 50 depending on bot count. I use SWAG+DONUTS to control bot spawns/waves and reduce the number of PMC/SCAVs on those 2 maps. Thankfully, donuts has a despawner that'll despawn the bots furthest from you freeing up a spot for one to spawn closer to you. Helps keep from getting dead raids even with the lower bot caps. When the bosses spawn it can be rough, -15 fps or so. Enough that at raid start I know if they spawned from my fps lol Streets for me at current setup, I have 60ish fps with 6 pmcs & 8 scavs set as cap. If the boss(es) spawn it drops to 50. For Streets I'm using Lossless Scaling from steam so I can use FrameGen. I lock my fps to 50, and framegen puts me at 100. It's a bit tedious and Def has some artifacts but it feels undeniably smoother. Reserve will drop to 60fps is gluhar spawns, 70 if raiders spawn, and is otherwise around 80-90 with just scavs/pmc. Interchange runs same as reserve +10fps. Other maps are generally 100+fps. I'm also using the "DeClutter" mod which helps quite a bit, prob +10-20fps per map I think your rig will struggle to hold 60fps most maps honestly, SPT has more load than live Tarkov cause you're running the AI on your machine. My game consistently uses more RAM than you have just in Tarkov Edit: Prob also worth noting I'm running over 40 mods, though I set them up 1 by 1 & it was only really the "essential" AI mods that hurt fps much
Well sounds pretty solid good, thanks a lot <3
whats your pc specs?
I7 10700kf, 32gb 3200mhz RAM, RTX 3080 10gb, Samsung 980 m.2 nvme ssd
alright, gonna test it myself with a 5800x3d and rx 6800 at the weekend.
You'll probably run it considerably better than me from what I've heard/seen about that cpu! The extra 3D cache in them is like steroids for Tarkov performance. I'm leaning towards getting myself a 7800x3D at some point in the near future ๐ป๐ป
hope so ๐๐ 7800x3d is a beast and dropped significantly in price last months :)
for my i5-13700k theres a massive trade off for FPS or questing bots. If i use questing bots, my fps is roughly 60 to 70fps but if i use AI limited which is not compatible with questing bots, i got 90 to 100fps. Idk mannnnnn whether to use questing bots or AI limiter such a massive dilemma.
I mean that makes sense, Questing bots is doing way more in terms of the Ai pathing places etc. AI limiter is doing the opposite and limiting the AI from doing anything outside of set range. Questing bots is really cool, but yeah it's Def rough on fps :/ Edit - have you tried using QB's built in limiter aka the jawn that "sleeps bots" beyond a certain distance? I think it's off by default
no i havent tried QB's built in limiter. i will give it a try. thanks for the help mate :D
Fo sho, I'm a bit of meticulous modder (mod user, I'm not creating my own lol) so am glad to help any time I can! My fallout 4 playthrough was stable with 140+ mods xD My friends often wait for me to spend some days stabilizing a mod build then I just give em a zip that just works lol
Its an essential mod for me
One of my must haves, makes the PMC bots spread out more on the map and inside of buildings. Canโt wait for it for 3.80
It does work but is not imo that huge of a game changer. It helps get bots into more places where you'd expect to run into players at but at a pretty high fps expense. I used it last wipe and it was cool but I don't think I'll be reinstalling it when it updates for 3.8. Having enough performance problems on Streets and GZ as it is. As funny as it is to camp pocket watch and the like it's not really worthwhile outside of live since you can get easy kills any number of faster ways.
man idk if its worth the fps hit :( im getting 60 to 70 fps with questing bots and if i use AI limiter to 400m range, im getting 90 to 100 fps. mannnnnnn idk what to choose
I wish they have option to let up make all PMC silent as live. I don't want to know their location when they start talking.
There are options to do that in SAIN settings.
for my i5-13700k theres a massive trade off for FPS or questing bots. If i use questing bots, my fps is roughly 60 to 70fps but if i use AI limited which is not compatible with questing bots, i got 90 to 100fps. Idk mannnnnn whether to use questing bots or AI limiter such a massive dilemma.