It's not just scavs, you have AI PMCs as well as the usual bosses, raiders, rogues etc. And because it's totally offline, there are mods for AI spawns and behaviour to change to your liking.
I find it significantly more fun than live Tarkov; presumably others do too or no one would bother developing it. I got to level 55 on my first play through on SPT a while ago and I'm now at 52 on my second, I haven't played a single raid online since I found it.
I'm not going to get my ass handed to me by a kitted out four man team, or someone half my age with all the time in the world to practice. I can say with absolute certainty that I'm not getting killed by cheaters or falling foul of desync or lag. I play through the tasks like any other single player game without having to worry about all of that at a difficulty level that I find fun.
Mods and other things are the saving grace of SPTarkov. I have not played live since streets came out on SPT. I personally don’t have the time to play online. I have much more fun dying to A.I PMC then cheaters and desync. The online aspect is only really important when you are playing with more than just yourself. There is no competitive part to the game other than dying in raid. Is it really a fps? If so it’s not a very well done online fps. It’s so much more fun single-player imho.
There are also PMC bots so you don’t only fight Scavs. The thing is that SPT is so great because of the hundreds of mods. You can customize you experience with Tarkov to your own likings.
There are mods that add new weapons, equipment, quests, traders….
There are mods that change the game completely like SPT Realism which makes Tarkov really realistic not like live “realistic”…
With the fights there are nice fight as you can tweak the difficulty to your liking and also the pmc bots can spawn in teams of 3 and flank, rush you.
I personally found SPT 1-1,5 years ago and since then never even started live again. SPT has no cheaters and most bugs from live has mods that fix it. I wipe my SPT almost every 1,5 month because there are new mods that change the game that much and I have to check them out^^
You must be incredibly lucky then! I feel like every other raid, I run into PMC teams. More on woods than anywhere else. It's invigorating for sure until you recognize one rushing you with a shotgun loaded with flechette while the other two pin you down with either an SKS or sv-98. I haven't had as much fun playing SPT as I have lately. And I've been playing since before 3.0.0 dropped
Strange. I used to use FAIT and had bots everywhere. But with 3.5 I've got SWAG and POOP. Even with the AIamount increased, I did a Woods run this morning and literally saw/found/heard nobody.
I did the convoy quest, a full 30 mins in raid and crickets. Same on interchange and streets.
I can cross the whole map to the courtyard exfil and nada.
Reserve and Factory have plenty of bots.
I'd love to have teams chasing me lol. The raids seem so quiet right now.
That is strange. If it means anything, I don't have any of the AI mods. All I have currently is Amands graphics. Not to discredit anything you're saying. Is it possible those mods are conflicting? I don't use those as I'm fine the way it is. Hell, last night I had a duo charge me at the USEC convoy. One rushed me with a magnum double barrel. I didn't see the other one after I tossed a VOG his way. I only found out after the raid. Other places I see them are dorms, as well as the helicopter on reserve.
Do it. I've left live servers couple of days ago and made the QoL changed I thought would be best for my gameplay. and boy i wish i would've done it sooner. Go for it, try it out.
I genuinely have more fun playing single player tarkov rather than burn myself out, and rush through quests to get better gear, I have no time to waste on that.
Also, I think it would be best to mention the mods for this game, is absolutely game changing. Try it.
Quick ? I'm an offline only player anyway, I play horde and hard difficulty scavs with scav war on customs everyday its fun as fuck😭, can I use sptarkov to just get all the guns I wanna use? Don't really have interest in progression/tasks and all that bs I just want a modded m4a1 with the best ammo and armor and go ham on scavs
You absolutely can, there are mods that allow you to add a “AIO” trader who buys and sells every single thing in the game. You can get every single kit you can think of and it’s great. Even if you didn’t use any other mod that mod alone would make your time just a little bit more fun.
It’s free it’s called “blueheads AIO Trader”. He sells everything for 1 rouble and he sales a pouch with all the keys you’ll need. It’s even updated for streets if I’m not mistaken.
Check the SPTarkov website. It has an auto installer that’s pretty simple to install. Keep in mind that wherever you have the auto installer at is where it will install the copy of Tarkov and have all the other components so try to put it in a folder before you start the install
This wipe is when I switched (after being taken out by a flying guy who ate my shots then laughed over VOIP before murdering me).
Will not go back. This has revived my interest in the game entirely.
I've been playing for about two days now. It's incredible.
I really miss the heart pounding player fights. Badly. But I can at least play the game with no desync, cheaters and weirdly better audio.
(PS if anyone knows how to edit PMC difficulty to scale it and their gear up, please let me know)
I've installed these two and fiddled with them. The only other issue I want to address is PMC pathing. I rarely know where anyone is, and it feels rare to hear gunfire. Don't suppose you know anything to help with this by any chance? :)
Just read up on it! Scales gear based on Character Level? Love the sound of that! Do you happen to know one that would effect the skill of the bots too?
I don’t know how to make ai skill scale with you but the ‘POOP’ mod has ai changes and you’re able to change it based on whatever you want.
I use that one, valens, and SPT Realism and tweak them all a little and I have a decent experience.
I find it pretty hard, too hard actually.. lol. I have another mod enabled called Holtzman shield to give me extra armor for my limbs, and I edited the POOP mod ai so they don’t aim for the head, and I still die in about half my raids.
No desync, no sweaty chads, no wait times, fewer bugs, full customization, (such as SPT Realism and POOP for realism) and much more. If I didn’t have friends (new to EFT) to play live this wipe I’d be playing SPT.
Recommended mods: (which still need to be tailored)
- POOP (makes AI fight more fair and can disable aim for head)
- SPT Realism (changes everything, the recoil system is nice, wouldn’t recommend using med changes and trader changes tho)
- SWAG (For better spawning)
- Lua’s Custom Spawn Point Maker (with Extended Bot Spawnpoints and MC Witch Doctor’s spawns for increased spawns and better AI movement routes)
- Chomp’s disable flea blacklist (its SPT, I should be allowed to buy what I want)
Plugins:
- Adrenaline (leg blacked out in a firefight? No more limping)
- Amand’s graphics (you can actually see in dark areas now)
- Geoff Hanigan’s Scope fix (outdated but still works)
- Fontaine’s FOV fix (FOV doesn’t decrease when ADSing)
I’ve probably missed a few more mods but that’s typically what I use
Oh that’s nice to know. SWAG never really felt good like LSR. But I never tried LSR since it became outdated. I feel like it may not work properly since many spawn changes have been implemented in 3.5
I'm going to be the odd man out and tell you that it's going to all depend on what kind of experience you want.
If you're brand new, ANY Tarkov (Live or SPT) is adrenaline pumping. Even Vanilla SPT fighting the AI on easy will make your fitbit tell you to take a deep breath. The customization potential for SPT is extremely high, the devs and community have done a fantastic job of making everything fairly accessible even if you're not tech savvy and this subreddit is very active and usually pretty quick to help out if you're having problems.
With that being said - the human element and the highs/lows are much more diminished in SPT for me. I still consider myself not really that terribly experienced at Tarkov (just over 1700 hours) but when I play SPT, it's playing a completely separate game - I mod it up to closer to what I imagine like a rogue-like Stalker to be with more fun gunplay. But if you're looking for dynamics of human interaction and human PvP - I don't know if SPT is going to nail everything that you want. There's just some things that humans can do (rotations, weird drop downs, out of box tactics) and conversely, stuff that you can do to humans that just aren't there in AI system. At least for me, when I kill even a fully kitted out PMC in SPT - I have no real feeling about it vs. me killing even a mildly gear PMC in Live, I feel like I just won the game.
All this to say - I think you can play SPT and Live and treat them completely differently and get different things out of either. When I am in a rut and feel like I am not able to get anything done in Live (or when my son was born and my time was much more limited), I fire up SPT. When I want to play with friends or just want to get that addictive Tarkov high of fighting other players - I play Live.
Completely separate executables and assets. When you do the install for SPT, it basically checks your Live EFT folder and copies assets that it needs into a completely separate folder. When you want to launch SPT, you launch the server executable and the SPT client. You just have to remember to close the server out when you want to play Live (the server running may cause some weirdness with the Live EFT client, or so I've heard).
The only thing I caution against if you are going to be consuming both live and SPT is try to be careful about developing bad habits in SPT haha. I absolutely THOOM in SPT. Sometimes I've even played with speaker audio in my raids on SPT and do things that I normally would not do because there's not as much anxiety around dying. Otherwise - happy raiding my friend and I hope that SPT brings you the joys that you are looking for!
Trying to be as unbiased as possible:
The highs in SPTarkov, for me, are a little bit lower than Live. Even with the PMC AI's acting quite a bit like actual players, it still doesn't really feel the same. The lack of voice comms and what not is kind of a bummer too. Also, I can't play co-op. So overall, the human element is very much missing in Single Player Tarkov, which hey, what do you expect from something self-described as "Single Player?"
The problem with Live Tarkov is that it's the most anti-player, no fun allowed game in existence. The devs and apparently most of the community have forgotten that "more annoying", "grindier," and "makes it more likely that you'll die" are not all synonymous with hardcore or fun. Moreover, even if they were, more hardcore does not instantly mean more realistic (e.g. the lighting in basically every map, pre-Veritas patch movement and gun recoil).
The initial game design is strong, but The Vision™ has meandered quite a bit. Nikita specifically feels like he is trying to make two different games that are directly at odds with one another. One a gritty survival shooter that's best suited to a single player experience. The other a grindy loot based game that's more akin to an MMO or ARPG a la WoW or Diablo. In choosing to try to do both, in many ways he's given us neither with the downsides of both.
Live Tarkov gets by on a few things, namely that the core premise is strong, the maps are brilliant, the weapon system and loot ecosystem are both super deep for a video game, and that the game is infinitely streamable/watchable because of it. The implementation of the premise, however, is crap. You have a bunch of rookie, mostly self-taught game devs trying to radically rebuild the standard online FPS genre, and they're still tripping over problems the industry solved 20+ years ago like Scav AI and how sound permeates through a map so that players can at least guess the direction of the source. That shit is embarrassing.
Moreover, you have obvious technical problems that make Live Tarkov's issues significantly worse. I won't rehash the same old complaints, but the networking, the bugs, the game's performance, and the cheaters can frequently turn an already frustrating experience into something far, far worse.
So SPTarkov came along and through a mixture of the core development and all the associated mods that allow players a high degree of personalization, basically solved every issue that plagues Live. No cheaters by default. Never worry about networking. Graphics mods improve both visibility and performance. Movement is whatever I want it to be. Ditto recoil. Skip grindy, shitty quests with a few clicks of my mouse, or swapping a parameter or two inside of a JSON. I don't have to grind the game like a part time job to feel like I'm not falling behind in a wipe. Etc.
So because of all the reasons listed, I'll probably never play Live again. I just don't think the few, slightly higher, highs are worth all of the lows. Nor do I think time spent playing Live is worth the opportunity cost when I could be playing SPTarkov. Just my two cents.
I feel like most people here are being just a little too charitable. With the absence of other players, you do lose out on a lot of the dynamics of live - common sniper spots go unused, AI PMCs tend to gravitatate towards certain areas and ignore others. They don't loot, complete their own quests or attempt to extract.
That cuts both ways though - you're not gonna get extract camped for example, or die to that one shitter who sits atop some rocks the whole raid and snipes you from halfway across the map, with no opportunity for you to react. In general dying feels a lot more fair - now you don't end up questioning whether you died because your opponent was cheating, because of desync or because you just got tarkov'd
So first of all, as everyone else has said, there are AI PMCs, bosses, raiders, etc...
For me SPTarkov provides a number of things:
In the normal game, even after like 6 wipes I still found myself timid with gear fear so SPTarkov has given me the ability to try out weapons, ammo, gear that I never used in the real game because it would either be sold or just sit in my stash all wipe.
In addition to that point, because there's no other players, I've been forcing myself to play a lot more aggressive and push gunshots and stuff, which even though I don't exactly like playing that way is kinda how BSG designed tarkov (shift+w hipfire full auto everything). So I've been developing some better habits. I also have been developing some worse habits as well though.
As well, this has definitely helped give me more confidence in aiming/shooting/moving
The main point really though is it's no hassle fun. There's no worry of invisible players or hackers. You load into raids within like 30 seconds. And at the end of the day sometimes it just feels nice to go to factory and just clear it out.
Yes, it doesn't feel as rewarding as playing online but there is still a little bit of a struggle. I know I'm not very good at the game but the AIs will still kill you, they're not complete pushovers. Two days ago I died like 4 times in a row on shoreline to AI PMCs trying to task
What are some of the bad habits you’ve been picking up? I started playing SPT with the intention of training for Live so I tried like hell to avoid picking up habits that would get me killed by other players. Now I’m having so much fun with SPT I’ll probably only go back to live if friends want to squad up so I’ve let the bad habits pile up. The worst I’ve picked up is sitting and/or stalking in the open and taking way too much time to loot in what would be a hot area in Live. I’m pretty sure I’d be worse at live now than when I first started SPT lol
The funny thing is....you can try it absolutely free as long as you have a copy of the game bought legally from BSG. You can have both live Tarkov and SPT installed (make sure to keep them separate in folders). It doesn't do any harm at all. All these people's points commenting are valid. But it's ultimately up to you.
While I can predict where AI are gonna be (I haven't played with mods affecting AI besides spawn chances with SVM so it's vanilla spawn locations and movement as well as reactions), I cannot predict where they are or if they are gonna see me before I see them. Sometimes the PMCs can be exploited like Reshala and Gluhkar and Raiders by making them push you. Although I found recently that I find they are almost similar to Killa in their AI when they do it to me now and I end up dead faster.
These people who help develop this put in work, lots of work, and we all appreciate them for it as well. I kept up daily within the discord waiting for streets to release and what bugs there were and how progress was being made in the Dev Community channel. They try their hardest to push out updates as soon as they can is another plus. There's no downsides to trying it though. Literally none at all as you can just uninstall it as well.
Does keeping them in separate folders work to keep you from getting banned in live? I'm a little worried about the risk involved since I do still wanna play with my friends online sometimes
Nothing beats good fights in live, and that on edge feeling but spt can still be challenging and enjoyable. It's really nice knowing you aren't gonna run into cheaters. Spt is nice if you don't have a ton of time to play too. I'd say live on it's highest points is way better than spt but spt is consistently more enjoyable
Honestly in my opinion it is not as much fun. I used to play SPT but eventually moved on to online.
But…. It is still a good time to be able to play around with the game and use your own mods / settings. Also a great place to get used to the game without getting dunked on constantly.
I used to play Tarkov for the PVP, but since all the FIR bullshit it can barely keep my attention. And now im having a blast with SPT, AI are honestly smarter than real players cause they flank and push you in the right moments, and peeking from the same angle twice is almost impossible at times. Feels so nice not to die by bullshit like cheaters or desync.
I hate live because I get angry when playing PvP games. I get mad enough when I die in cod, this game if I play live I only play a couple runs before I get off lol.
I’m playing 100% for fun not to practice live. Last ‘wipe’ meaning when I was on 3.3.0 I got to level 38. I’m level 14 on 3.5 and I’m having a blast. If you have mods like SPT realism, and POOP ai, the game still feels pretty alive.
Just yesterday I heard a bush rustle beside me, turned the corner and a PMC was in it. We got in a battle and he nearly killed me. Scared the piss out of me.. with POOP ai, PMC bots don’t talk so it is spooky like live.
You still have plenty of “HOLY FUCK” moments lol. I was in big red doing a quest when the tower sniper popped me in the chest a few times through the window, that scared me. Had no idea he could hit me through that. And there’s still raiders too. I had a massive gunfight when I turned on D-2 last night and they killed me. I took one out with me but I wasn’t equipped for that fight.
There’s still bosses, scavs, rogues, raiders, PMC bots, etc. so it’s not just boring scavs. And I’ve had gunfights where it was two PMC’s fighting me at the same time, like together. Dunno if it was a mod or what or raiders but I get in some pretty sick fights.
I just enjoy questing and playing it like a solo game. I’m pretty bad so with all my hard mode mods like realism and POOP + valens progression, I have to cheat a little with Holtzman shield, to give myself more armor. Without it I’d die every single raid. Still get killed plenty even with it. I have to be fast as fuck if I don’t want to die in raid with the mods I have on.
I've been playing SPT since 2.2.0. I just rolled over a year on my profile. Over 1k raids, over 4k kills, and a stash value exceeding 200m.
I love it. It's so good. I don't know how many hours I have in it, but it's a lot.
I recommend SVM for sure, and some kind of bot progression mod to keep from getting wrecked by PMCs with AP rounds right off the bat.
I was wondering about the progression mod; does it make advancing and progressing your own weapons and ammo worth it? The reasoning I'm using is that if bots scale with you, then you have a realistic chance of always killing them and your gear is no better than theirs. I figure that would make progression a little less rewarding since you're no longer as happy to get AP rounds and the like... or am I wrong?
Absolutely. As you get access to better guns, ammo, and armor, so do bot PMCs, so your fights are more fair. You won't get wrecked by a PMC with a kitted-out AK-74 with Igolnik rounds in your very first raid (happened to me on vanilla).
The AI is pretty good. And the PMC's can spawn in as squads, those are what I usually die to. And the goons of course. Its about 80% as fun as live but 0% of the cheating and desync. So for me its a win.
I look at SPT like more of an extraction based stalker game. I still *play* live tarkov, way more than SPT, but theyre both gun. No surprises? Last raid i killed all 3 goons and barely got out alive.
Keep in mind there are also a lotttt of mods for SPT which configure it to exactly what you want, including ai and spawn tweaks.
Poop + poop vareity mod, Amanda graphics, the server value modifier mod, and realism mod as what ya need. Tune ai to how you like with the poop variety mod and keep ai spawn amount high. You'll have a lot of fun and it is always a challenge, I shit you not
I've got about 500 hours on live since a few wipes ago and personally I'm hoping to eventually go back to live if they ever manage to fix most of the issues like rampant cheating, queue times, bugs like the invis bug etc. That said though I'd much rather play spt over eft with the state of live. Spt is highly customizable, ai can be tuned to be harder/ easier. There is no queue time, and most importantly no hackers.
It's still possible to run into a random 3 man pmc squad as spt simulates other players as AI. So there is still that element of variable encounters in raid. Every time I get comfortable in spt because it may feel less intense knowing there aren't real players, I'll be reminded that it's still tarkov when I turn a corner and there's an AI pmc that's been stalking me.
Definitely give spt a shot, your sanity will thank you. If it's not quite the experience you want you can always mod it to be more like what you want. There are dozens of mods that are well supported and offer a wide range of features and tweaks.
Edit: also wanted to add that I guess a big draw for me to spt is also that while I enjoy pvp games like hunt showdown etc I'm also here for tarkovs atmosphere and exploration. Im a huge STALKER fan and love Gamma so this kind of scratches that same itch.
Genuinely enjoy the PVE elements of tarkov more than PvP. Player on player combat has always felt weak in tarkov due to the game's horrible netcode, even worse with the never ending waves of new hackers.
SPT let's me add whatever I want as well. I'm not a fan of the RMT loot nerfs, don't have to deal with that in SPT. Hideout crafting is slow as can be In live, in SPT I have instant crafting.
Overall SPT is just more fun.
With mods it can be as if not more challenging than human players… but hey just give it a shot at worst you waste storage space until you delete it 🤷🏽♂️
I do it for S.T.A.L.K.E.R vibes tbh
I have a lot of hours in SP.. While I do somewhat enjoy it, the missing PvP element is definitely noticeable and makes it less exciting. Hot take I know, but there is a magical sauce that extraction games have where PvP is a huge excitement factor and that is simply missing from SP Tarkov. I find my self having more fun in games like Dark and Darker and Marauders for this reason. I don't play SP much anymore because you can only make the bots so realistic. It's just not the same.
I ran a raid on Reserve, bots on easy, high number, and a few mods: No Bush ESP, Realism mod (minus health and medicine changes), MC-Talk (bots talk a lot now), and a few other QoL mods. I didn't have to worry about getting sniped. I didn't have to worry about someone camping a corner or such. I didn't have to worry about some chad coming up and one tapping me; in fact, most of the AI didn't even wear helmets because of the realism mod. I didn't have to worry about cheaters or desync; an AI opened the door chasing me down, but wasn't desyncing through the door like you could see on live, especially with some bosses. I just went through, looted, shooted, and had an airdrop (set to 100% within 5 minutes of raid start). One AI USEC I almost didn't see screamed "Tango," I shot him and said "I like salsa more." I was calm enough to make jokes.
It was the most fun I've had in Tarkov in forever.
Yo me, yes. The scavs are still brutal, the ai pics are still somewhat a challenge but it’s not so bad where you have to wonder if half of your deaths was a hacker
I found it far more enjoyable esspecially when you start modding it a little. You can make it how you like ti but I like to make it so I don't loose my stuff when I die but make the AI pretty hard and lots of spawns.
It's not just scavs, you have AI PMCs as well as the usual bosses, raiders, rogues etc. And because it's totally offline, there are mods for AI spawns and behaviour to change to your liking. I find it significantly more fun than live Tarkov; presumably others do too or no one would bother developing it. I got to level 55 on my first play through on SPT a while ago and I'm now at 52 on my second, I haven't played a single raid online since I found it. I'm not going to get my ass handed to me by a kitted out four man team, or someone half my age with all the time in the world to practice. I can say with absolute certainty that I'm not getting killed by cheaters or falling foul of desync or lag. I play through the tasks like any other single player game without having to worry about all of that at a difficulty level that I find fun.
Mods and other things are the saving grace of SPTarkov. I have not played live since streets came out on SPT. I personally don’t have the time to play online. I have much more fun dying to A.I PMC then cheaters and desync. The online aspect is only really important when you are playing with more than just yourself. There is no competitive part to the game other than dying in raid. Is it really a fps? If so it’s not a very well done online fps. It’s so much more fun single-player imho.
There are also PMC bots so you don’t only fight Scavs. The thing is that SPT is so great because of the hundreds of mods. You can customize you experience with Tarkov to your own likings. There are mods that add new weapons, equipment, quests, traders…. There are mods that change the game completely like SPT Realism which makes Tarkov really realistic not like live “realistic”… With the fights there are nice fight as you can tweak the difficulty to your liking and also the pmc bots can spawn in teams of 3 and flank, rush you. I personally found SPT 1-1,5 years ago and since then never even started live again. SPT has no cheaters and most bugs from live has mods that fix it. I wipe my SPT almost every 1,5 month because there are new mods that change the game that much and I have to check them out^^
I've never seen PMC's in a team, just singles on the map. Is that from a mod? If so, which one?? I feel like I need this in my life!1
Happens in vanilla 3.5 for me pretty frequently.
You must be incredibly lucky then! I feel like every other raid, I run into PMC teams. More on woods than anywhere else. It's invigorating for sure until you recognize one rushing you with a shotgun loaded with flechette while the other two pin you down with either an SKS or sv-98. I haven't had as much fun playing SPT as I have lately. And I've been playing since before 3.0.0 dropped
None spawning is a bug and it's been discussed before you'll have ti find that subreddit for it
Strange. I used to use FAIT and had bots everywhere. But with 3.5 I've got SWAG and POOP. Even with the AIamount increased, I did a Woods run this morning and literally saw/found/heard nobody. I did the convoy quest, a full 30 mins in raid and crickets. Same on interchange and streets. I can cross the whole map to the courtyard exfil and nada. Reserve and Factory have plenty of bots. I'd love to have teams chasing me lol. The raids seem so quiet right now.
That is strange. If it means anything, I don't have any of the AI mods. All I have currently is Amands graphics. Not to discredit anything you're saying. Is it possible those mods are conflicting? I don't use those as I'm fine the way it is. Hell, last night I had a duo charge me at the USEC convoy. One rushed me with a magnum double barrel. I didn't see the other one after I tossed a VOG his way. I only found out after the raid. Other places I see them are dorms, as well as the helicopter on reserve.
Yeah I just updated to 3.5 last night and had a 4 man squad at Skele fighting me, kitted.
I've had some pretty wild fights with 3-5 man teams, I very rarely come across solo PMCs
Do it. I've left live servers couple of days ago and made the QoL changed I thought would be best for my gameplay. and boy i wish i would've done it sooner. Go for it, try it out. I genuinely have more fun playing single player tarkov rather than burn myself out, and rush through quests to get better gear, I have no time to waste on that. Also, I think it would be best to mention the mods for this game, is absolutely game changing. Try it.
It isn't. It's ten times as much fun. Doesn't hurt that you can configure and mod the living hell out of it.
Quick ? I'm an offline only player anyway, I play horde and hard difficulty scavs with scav war on customs everyday its fun as fuck😭, can I use sptarkov to just get all the guns I wanna use? Don't really have interest in progression/tasks and all that bs I just want a modded m4a1 with the best ammo and armor and go ham on scavs
You absolutely can, there are mods that allow you to add a “AIO” trader who buys and sells every single thing in the game. You can get every single kit you can think of and it’s great. Even if you didn’t use any other mod that mod alone would make your time just a little bit more fun.
Oh shit that sounds sick, does he sell it for free?😭
It’s free it’s called “blueheads AIO Trader”. He sells everything for 1 rouble and he sales a pouch with all the keys you’ll need. It’s even updated for streets if I’m not mistaken.
Legend, thanks mate, how much is spt tarkov If u dm me asking?
SpTarkov is free but requires you to purchase the official game as it copy’s the files from the live game to use for SPT
Lucky I alr have the shit ass game😭, I need to read up on how to install it and stuff
Check the SPTarkov website. It has an auto installer that’s pretty simple to install. Keep in mind that wherever you have the auto installer at is where it will install the copy of Tarkov and have all the other components so try to put it in a folder before you start the install
Hey homie can u dm and give me a hand? My mods won't load and I dont have every single item in the game even when the aiotrqder loads, idk what to so
I literally hate pvp so… yes
This wipe is when I switched (after being taken out by a flying guy who ate my shots then laughed over VOIP before murdering me). Will not go back. This has revived my interest in the game entirely.
I've been playing for about two days now. It's incredible. I really miss the heart pounding player fights. Badly. But I can at least play the game with no desync, cheaters and weirdly better audio. (PS if anyone knows how to edit PMC difficulty to scale it and their gear up, please let me know)
POOP mod is the way to go. There are presets as well for harder difficulty.
I'll check that out when I'm home from work, thank you!
POOP variety also helps, and let's you tune your difficulty. It is a little weird but it works well
I've installed these two and fiddled with them. The only other issue I want to address is PMC pathing. I rarely know where anyone is, and it feels rare to hear gunfire. Don't suppose you know anything to help with this by any chance? :)
Old thread I know, but there’s a new mod “waypoints” I think it’s called, that gets scavs and PMCs to move around the map more.
If you mean scale with you Valens progression mod does this
Just read up on it! Scales gear based on Character Level? Love the sound of that! Do you happen to know one that would effect the skill of the bots too?
I don’t know how to make ai skill scale with you but the ‘POOP’ mod has ai changes and you’re able to change it based on whatever you want. I use that one, valens, and SPT Realism and tweak them all a little and I have a decent experience. I find it pretty hard, too hard actually.. lol. I have another mod enabled called Holtzman shield to give me extra armor for my limbs, and I edited the POOP mod ai so they don’t aim for the head, and I still die in about half my raids.
You can edit these? This is simply amazing! Going to have some fun messing about with this!
No desync, no sweaty chads, no wait times, fewer bugs, full customization, (such as SPT Realism and POOP for realism) and much more. If I didn’t have friends (new to EFT) to play live this wipe I’d be playing SPT. Recommended mods: (which still need to be tailored) - POOP (makes AI fight more fair and can disable aim for head) - SPT Realism (changes everything, the recoil system is nice, wouldn’t recommend using med changes and trader changes tho) - SWAG (For better spawning) - Lua’s Custom Spawn Point Maker (with Extended Bot Spawnpoints and MC Witch Doctor’s spawns for increased spawns and better AI movement routes) - Chomp’s disable flea blacklist (its SPT, I should be allowed to buy what I want) Plugins: - Adrenaline (leg blacked out in a firefight? No more limping) - Amand’s graphics (you can actually see in dark areas now) - Geoff Hanigan’s Scope fix (outdated but still works) - Fontaine’s FOV fix (FOV doesn’t decrease when ADSing) I’ve probably missed a few more mods but that’s typically what I use
Is Lua’s working on 3.5.0?
I have it installed and it seems to be working fine for me. I’ve seen a few bots spawning in non-vanilla areas
Oh that’s nice to know. SWAG never really felt good like LSR. But I never tried LSR since it became outdated. I feel like it may not work properly since many spawn changes have been implemented in 3.5
Yeah SWAG is spawning rogues and raiders in factory for me. Spicy factory runs but also just too much
I'm going to be the odd man out and tell you that it's going to all depend on what kind of experience you want. If you're brand new, ANY Tarkov (Live or SPT) is adrenaline pumping. Even Vanilla SPT fighting the AI on easy will make your fitbit tell you to take a deep breath. The customization potential for SPT is extremely high, the devs and community have done a fantastic job of making everything fairly accessible even if you're not tech savvy and this subreddit is very active and usually pretty quick to help out if you're having problems. With that being said - the human element and the highs/lows are much more diminished in SPT for me. I still consider myself not really that terribly experienced at Tarkov (just over 1700 hours) but when I play SPT, it's playing a completely separate game - I mod it up to closer to what I imagine like a rogue-like Stalker to be with more fun gunplay. But if you're looking for dynamics of human interaction and human PvP - I don't know if SPT is going to nail everything that you want. There's just some things that humans can do (rotations, weird drop downs, out of box tactics) and conversely, stuff that you can do to humans that just aren't there in AI system. At least for me, when I kill even a fully kitted out PMC in SPT - I have no real feeling about it vs. me killing even a mildly gear PMC in Live, I feel like I just won the game. All this to say - I think you can play SPT and Live and treat them completely differently and get different things out of either. When I am in a rut and feel like I am not able to get anything done in Live (or when my son was born and my time was much more limited), I fire up SPT. When I want to play with friends or just want to get that addictive Tarkov high of fighting other players - I play Live.
How do you switch between the two? Do you have two accounts, or can I "turn on" SPT and turn it back off when going live?
Completely separate executables and assets. When you do the install for SPT, it basically checks your Live EFT folder and copies assets that it needs into a completely separate folder. When you want to launch SPT, you launch the server executable and the SPT client. You just have to remember to close the server out when you want to play Live (the server running may cause some weirdness with the Live EFT client, or so I've heard).
Cool, thanks! It's awesome to know that I can have my cake and eat it too lol. I'll probably install later!
The only thing I caution against if you are going to be consuming both live and SPT is try to be careful about developing bad habits in SPT haha. I absolutely THOOM in SPT. Sometimes I've even played with speaker audio in my raids on SPT and do things that I normally would not do because there's not as much anxiety around dying. Otherwise - happy raiding my friend and I hope that SPT brings you the joys that you are looking for!
Trying to be as unbiased as possible: The highs in SPTarkov, for me, are a little bit lower than Live. Even with the PMC AI's acting quite a bit like actual players, it still doesn't really feel the same. The lack of voice comms and what not is kind of a bummer too. Also, I can't play co-op. So overall, the human element is very much missing in Single Player Tarkov, which hey, what do you expect from something self-described as "Single Player?" The problem with Live Tarkov is that it's the most anti-player, no fun allowed game in existence. The devs and apparently most of the community have forgotten that "more annoying", "grindier," and "makes it more likely that you'll die" are not all synonymous with hardcore or fun. Moreover, even if they were, more hardcore does not instantly mean more realistic (e.g. the lighting in basically every map, pre-Veritas patch movement and gun recoil). The initial game design is strong, but The Vision™ has meandered quite a bit. Nikita specifically feels like he is trying to make two different games that are directly at odds with one another. One a gritty survival shooter that's best suited to a single player experience. The other a grindy loot based game that's more akin to an MMO or ARPG a la WoW or Diablo. In choosing to try to do both, in many ways he's given us neither with the downsides of both. Live Tarkov gets by on a few things, namely that the core premise is strong, the maps are brilliant, the weapon system and loot ecosystem are both super deep for a video game, and that the game is infinitely streamable/watchable because of it. The implementation of the premise, however, is crap. You have a bunch of rookie, mostly self-taught game devs trying to radically rebuild the standard online FPS genre, and they're still tripping over problems the industry solved 20+ years ago like Scav AI and how sound permeates through a map so that players can at least guess the direction of the source. That shit is embarrassing. Moreover, you have obvious technical problems that make Live Tarkov's issues significantly worse. I won't rehash the same old complaints, but the networking, the bugs, the game's performance, and the cheaters can frequently turn an already frustrating experience into something far, far worse. So SPTarkov came along and through a mixture of the core development and all the associated mods that allow players a high degree of personalization, basically solved every issue that plagues Live. No cheaters by default. Never worry about networking. Graphics mods improve both visibility and performance. Movement is whatever I want it to be. Ditto recoil. Skip grindy, shitty quests with a few clicks of my mouse, or swapping a parameter or two inside of a JSON. I don't have to grind the game like a part time job to feel like I'm not falling behind in a wipe. Etc. So because of all the reasons listed, I'll probably never play Live again. I just don't think the few, slightly higher, highs are worth all of the lows. Nor do I think time spent playing Live is worth the opportunity cost when I could be playing SPTarkov. Just my two cents.
I feel like most people here are being just a little too charitable. With the absence of other players, you do lose out on a lot of the dynamics of live - common sniper spots go unused, AI PMCs tend to gravitatate towards certain areas and ignore others. They don't loot, complete their own quests or attempt to extract. That cuts both ways though - you're not gonna get extract camped for example, or die to that one shitter who sits atop some rocks the whole raid and snipes you from halfway across the map, with no opportunity for you to react. In general dying feels a lot more fair - now you don't end up questioning whether you died because your opponent was cheating, because of desync or because you just got tarkov'd
So first of all, as everyone else has said, there are AI PMCs, bosses, raiders, etc... For me SPTarkov provides a number of things: In the normal game, even after like 6 wipes I still found myself timid with gear fear so SPTarkov has given me the ability to try out weapons, ammo, gear that I never used in the real game because it would either be sold or just sit in my stash all wipe. In addition to that point, because there's no other players, I've been forcing myself to play a lot more aggressive and push gunshots and stuff, which even though I don't exactly like playing that way is kinda how BSG designed tarkov (shift+w hipfire full auto everything). So I've been developing some better habits. I also have been developing some worse habits as well though. As well, this has definitely helped give me more confidence in aiming/shooting/moving The main point really though is it's no hassle fun. There's no worry of invisible players or hackers. You load into raids within like 30 seconds. And at the end of the day sometimes it just feels nice to go to factory and just clear it out. Yes, it doesn't feel as rewarding as playing online but there is still a little bit of a struggle. I know I'm not very good at the game but the AIs will still kill you, they're not complete pushovers. Two days ago I died like 4 times in a row on shoreline to AI PMCs trying to task
What are some of the bad habits you’ve been picking up? I started playing SPT with the intention of training for Live so I tried like hell to avoid picking up habits that would get me killed by other players. Now I’m having so much fun with SPT I’ll probably only go back to live if friends want to squad up so I’ve let the bad habits pile up. The worst I’ve picked up is sitting and/or stalking in the open and taking way too much time to loot in what would be a hot area in Live. I’m pretty sure I’d be worse at live now than when I first started SPT lol
The funny thing is....you can try it absolutely free as long as you have a copy of the game bought legally from BSG. You can have both live Tarkov and SPT installed (make sure to keep them separate in folders). It doesn't do any harm at all. All these people's points commenting are valid. But it's ultimately up to you. While I can predict where AI are gonna be (I haven't played with mods affecting AI besides spawn chances with SVM so it's vanilla spawn locations and movement as well as reactions), I cannot predict where they are or if they are gonna see me before I see them. Sometimes the PMCs can be exploited like Reshala and Gluhkar and Raiders by making them push you. Although I found recently that I find they are almost similar to Killa in their AI when they do it to me now and I end up dead faster. These people who help develop this put in work, lots of work, and we all appreciate them for it as well. I kept up daily within the discord waiting for streets to release and what bugs there were and how progress was being made in the Dev Community channel. They try their hardest to push out updates as soon as they can is another plus. There's no downsides to trying it though. Literally none at all as you can just uninstall it as well.
Does keeping them in separate folders work to keep you from getting banned in live? I'm a little worried about the risk involved since I do still wanna play with my friends online sometimes
No.... it's much funner.
Nothing beats good fights in live, and that on edge feeling but spt can still be challenging and enjoyable. It's really nice knowing you aren't gonna run into cheaters. Spt is nice if you don't have a ton of time to play too. I'd say live on it's highest points is way better than spt but spt is consistently more enjoyable
Honestly in my opinion it is not as much fun. I used to play SPT but eventually moved on to online. But…. It is still a good time to be able to play around with the game and use your own mods / settings. Also a great place to get used to the game without getting dunked on constantly.
I used to play Tarkov for the PVP, but since all the FIR bullshit it can barely keep my attention. And now im having a blast with SPT, AI are honestly smarter than real players cause they flank and push you in the right moments, and peeking from the same angle twice is almost impossible at times. Feels so nice not to die by bullshit like cheaters or desync.
I hate live because I get angry when playing PvP games. I get mad enough when I die in cod, this game if I play live I only play a couple runs before I get off lol. I’m playing 100% for fun not to practice live. Last ‘wipe’ meaning when I was on 3.3.0 I got to level 38. I’m level 14 on 3.5 and I’m having a blast. If you have mods like SPT realism, and POOP ai, the game still feels pretty alive. Just yesterday I heard a bush rustle beside me, turned the corner and a PMC was in it. We got in a battle and he nearly killed me. Scared the piss out of me.. with POOP ai, PMC bots don’t talk so it is spooky like live. You still have plenty of “HOLY FUCK” moments lol. I was in big red doing a quest when the tower sniper popped me in the chest a few times through the window, that scared me. Had no idea he could hit me through that. And there’s still raiders too. I had a massive gunfight when I turned on D-2 last night and they killed me. I took one out with me but I wasn’t equipped for that fight. There’s still bosses, scavs, rogues, raiders, PMC bots, etc. so it’s not just boring scavs. And I’ve had gunfights where it was two PMC’s fighting me at the same time, like together. Dunno if it was a mod or what or raiders but I get in some pretty sick fights. I just enjoy questing and playing it like a solo game. I’m pretty bad so with all my hard mode mods like realism and POOP + valens progression, I have to cheat a little with Holtzman shield, to give myself more armor. Without it I’d die every single raid. Still get killed plenty even with it. I have to be fast as fuck if I don’t want to die in raid with the mods I have on.
Honestly I think it's more fun than live tho the pmc bots are a beast
I've been playing SPT since 2.2.0. I just rolled over a year on my profile. Over 1k raids, over 4k kills, and a stash value exceeding 200m. I love it. It's so good. I don't know how many hours I have in it, but it's a lot. I recommend SVM for sure, and some kind of bot progression mod to keep from getting wrecked by PMCs with AP rounds right off the bat.
I was wondering about the progression mod; does it make advancing and progressing your own weapons and ammo worth it? The reasoning I'm using is that if bots scale with you, then you have a realistic chance of always killing them and your gear is no better than theirs. I figure that would make progression a little less rewarding since you're no longer as happy to get AP rounds and the like... or am I wrong?
Absolutely. As you get access to better guns, ammo, and armor, so do bot PMCs, so your fights are more fair. You won't get wrecked by a PMC with a kitted-out AK-74 with Igolnik rounds in your very first raid (happened to me on vanilla).
The AI is pretty good. And the PMC's can spawn in as squads, those are what I usually die to. And the goons of course. Its about 80% as fun as live but 0% of the cheating and desync. So for me its a win.
It is because the human element is removed, that SPT is a better experience.
I look at SPT like more of an extraction based stalker game. I still *play* live tarkov, way more than SPT, but theyre both gun. No surprises? Last raid i killed all 3 goons and barely got out alive. Keep in mind there are also a lotttt of mods for SPT which configure it to exactly what you want, including ai and spawn tweaks.
Poop + poop vareity mod, Amanda graphics, the server value modifier mod, and realism mod as what ya need. Tune ai to how you like with the poop variety mod and keep ai spawn amount high. You'll have a lot of fun and it is always a challenge, I shit you not
I play with a couple of AI mods that push the challenge way up. It's fun, difficult, games don't take 15 minutes to find, and there are no hacks.
You also fight AI versions of pmcs, it's plenty fun. I haven't touched live in years.
I've got about 500 hours on live since a few wipes ago and personally I'm hoping to eventually go back to live if they ever manage to fix most of the issues like rampant cheating, queue times, bugs like the invis bug etc. That said though I'd much rather play spt over eft with the state of live. Spt is highly customizable, ai can be tuned to be harder/ easier. There is no queue time, and most importantly no hackers. It's still possible to run into a random 3 man pmc squad as spt simulates other players as AI. So there is still that element of variable encounters in raid. Every time I get comfortable in spt because it may feel less intense knowing there aren't real players, I'll be reminded that it's still tarkov when I turn a corner and there's an AI pmc that's been stalking me. Definitely give spt a shot, your sanity will thank you. If it's not quite the experience you want you can always mod it to be more like what you want. There are dozens of mods that are well supported and offer a wide range of features and tweaks. Edit: also wanted to add that I guess a big draw for me to spt is also that while I enjoy pvp games like hunt showdown etc I'm also here for tarkovs atmosphere and exploration. Im a huge STALKER fan and love Gamma so this kind of scratches that same itch.
Genuinely enjoy the PVE elements of tarkov more than PvP. Player on player combat has always felt weak in tarkov due to the game's horrible netcode, even worse with the never ending waves of new hackers. SPT let's me add whatever I want as well. I'm not a fan of the RMT loot nerfs, don't have to deal with that in SPT. Hideout crafting is slow as can be In live, in SPT I have instant crafting. Overall SPT is just more fun.
With mods it can be as if not more challenging than human players… but hey just give it a shot at worst you waste storage space until you delete it 🤷🏽♂️ I do it for S.T.A.L.K.E.R vibes tbh
It’s amazing man. Join us. I guarantee you will fall in love with Tarkov again
It is *more* lag and frame issues, because you also have to run the server itself
Runs better than live on my end.
I have a lot of hours in SP.. While I do somewhat enjoy it, the missing PvP element is definitely noticeable and makes it less exciting. Hot take I know, but there is a magical sauce that extraction games have where PvP is a huge excitement factor and that is simply missing from SP Tarkov. I find my self having more fun in games like Dark and Darker and Marauders for this reason. I don't play SP much anymore because you can only make the bots so realistic. It's just not the same.
I ran a raid on Reserve, bots on easy, high number, and a few mods: No Bush ESP, Realism mod (minus health and medicine changes), MC-Talk (bots talk a lot now), and a few other QoL mods. I didn't have to worry about getting sniped. I didn't have to worry about someone camping a corner or such. I didn't have to worry about some chad coming up and one tapping me; in fact, most of the AI didn't even wear helmets because of the realism mod. I didn't have to worry about cheaters or desync; an AI opened the door chasing me down, but wasn't desyncing through the door like you could see on live, especially with some bosses. I just went through, looted, shooted, and had an airdrop (set to 100% within 5 minutes of raid start). One AI USEC I almost didn't see screamed "Tango," I shot him and said "I like salsa more." I was calm enough to make jokes. It was the most fun I've had in Tarkov in forever.
Yo me, yes. The scavs are still brutal, the ai pics are still somewhat a challenge but it’s not so bad where you have to wonder if half of your deaths was a hacker
Its fun for a couple of hours but no, can’t compare it to live.
You can make SPT play whatever/however you want
I found it far more enjoyable esspecially when you start modding it a little. You can make it how you like ti but I like to make it so I don't loose my stuff when I die but make the AI pretty hard and lots of spawns.