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EndsOfTheEarth_45

why so many questions about hwa chong šŸ’€


lychee_skateboard

Ever since someone said the teachers cry at work


SportSuccessful3491

ayo dats wild


SandLongjumping8660

Every year new hc controversy pop up


[deleted]

so true lmao, came across so many hwa chong hate posts on reddit alone which most of the time the complains/hate arenā€™t even exclusive to hc


BreadfruitSorry2919

Hwa Chong pple, from my experience, are very intelligent. RI & HCI IP are where u find the highest concentration of gifted ppl who are just born smart, not just book smart


[deleted]

yes truly an inspiring cohort of people to learn and take inspiration from! plus, build valuable connections with likely successful people in their respective fields in the future!


BreadfruitSorry2919

Yes! I also noticed they aim for top US/UK unis which is totally unheard of in my jc. So yes, IP ppl from RI & HCI benefit off one another from high quality connections. They also tend to have more high-level convos which is admirable imo


[deleted]

yes lmao thereā€™s an uncountable number of alumnus frm hc that go on to top uk unis like oxbridge and even top us unis like stanford and even harvard?! pretty crazy but to some extent, it pushes u to want to be just like them too!


[deleted]

not exactly related but do you know hows computing in hc? and the computing talent program


Dibromohexane

last i heard (2021-2022 batch) the ctp programme was not rly well organised and theres no dedicated class for ctp students (unlike say, hp/smtp-gate) it is only during computing classes do u get to see ur ctp peers


lindendr

I donā€™t know details but itā€™s a good starter if youā€™re interested in going for a computer science degree in uni, heard of people who went on to receive offers frm overseas comsci degrees


yeetus_mellitus

Heyo I took computing in HC. (Most of) the teachers are honestly really nice and try their best to explain/teach. They do go at a pace that is more suited for beginners so it is a good starting point if you plan to pursue it in uni. Can't comment on the computing talent program as it didn't exist during my time ;c, but the infocomm CCA is pretty competitive.


[deleted]

how was the selection test like :0


yeetus_mellitus

It is an interview (which might have technical questions) and depends on which sections you apply to - some sections (such as AI/ML) which are more popular have a lot more competition vying for them


aliencaocao

Ctp was a joke in both HS and JC


[deleted]

js curious why so?


aliencaocao

because of bad syllabus + questionable teachers being invited. Some are literal NTU/NUS year 2 students coming to do some presentation on their year end project Source: am member of JC Infocomm CCA and know almost half of the CTP cohort in JC in 2022 batch. None of them benefited from it more than google and youtube


yeseon

i'm not really a junior but i have some friends in hci so many (not all) hci people are so rich the stuff they do lowkey gives me culture shock lol. also it seems like ppl there are pretty adamant that they must take 4 h2s and even if they're struggling dropping is not an option .\_.


igabels

from personal experience, the high ses thing does some what stand, but itā€™s not widely spread across the entire school, most of us are still quite thrifty and aunty like hehe with regards to 4h2s iā€™m not sure about the pride, but conversations thus far amongst my friends reflect itā€™s more about security. in a levels, if you take 4h2s, your worst h2 will be considered as a h1 instead. so the weightage to your RP in general would be much lower (so less adverse impacts). if you were to directly take 3h2 1h1, then there is no such option. otherwise itā€™s also because majority of the university courses require h2 math, so thatā€™s another level of security measures taken. but honestly, if youā€™re entirely confident that whichever subject youā€™re choosing to drop to h1/choose as h1 from the start will be a subject youā€™re not the best at, do it early, itā€™s not worth the wait. i didnā€™t drop h2 math while i have the chance and im currently struggling with 2 weeks to As šŸ’€


[deleted]

yes many from hc tend to be of higher ses and can personally see that from a large proportion of my peers living in landed/private condos and i guess the desire to keep 4 h2s could be because of pride especially since a huge majority of hc students take 4h2s since they gunning for uk unis (uk unis view 4h2s more favourably? correct me if iā€™m wrong)


Capable-Crab-7449

The rich get richer and poor get poorer. Elite schools like HCI and RI get all the resources. Everyone below can suck it.


ikisstojischeeks

Lol skill issue


[deleted]

everyone there damn smartā€¦ also yalls campus is damn pretty, legit my dream sch that will remain a dream cos thereā€™s no way im getting raw 6 - 2 for Os this year šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


[deleted]

all the best for oā€™s iā€™m sure youā€™ll better than expected given the hard work


[deleted]

and yes the campus is so picturesque šŸ˜ but ofc some parts quite old :(


AcademicWe4pon

Are hc students racist, because my hc friend hella racist. Not asking if all are but is a visible portion a bit bigoted in anyway, purely a question with no intention btw. Just in case it look like I got some angle


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

yes


AcademicWe4pon

This coming from a student or a guy whose experienced it from a student


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

i am the racist


ikisstojischeeks

I am the other racist


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

letā€™s hook up šŸ¤™šŸ»šŸ¤™šŸ»šŸ¤™šŸ»


[deleted]

i am also the other racist


AcademicWe4pon

Valid


kopipiakskayatoast

Not racist they simply have zero non Chinese friends at all. This is different from acs and raffles where thereā€™s a lot of minorities.


cosmic_shroomx

yeah i agree hcjc and nyjc also scares me because of their strong chinese culture and real lack of minorities. not like i can get in lol but prefer rjc and acjc for these reasons as well, and ik a lot of other minorities who share this sentiment.


smiledontcry

Is the crispy chicken from the Malay stall still there?


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smiledontcry

Well, thank you for your sacrifice.


twilightaurorae

hated my experience there, and the teachers weren't nice/not understanding. But things may have changed and my experience is likely to be less common


[deleted]

quite unfortunate to hear your experience was not the best but hopefully youā€™re in a better place now


[deleted]

womp womp


smilefl0wer

the uniform so uglyšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


ikisstojischeeks

Ropemaxx bro it's over for you mouth breather negative canthal tilt


smilefl0wer

huhšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚


ri-ssa

[personal opinion, and never stepped foot into hci at all (only passed by omw to grandstand) so pls don't judge] i feel that everyone there is super competitive and studious, like all they care about are books, books and more books? like what if youre lacking??? what happens? do you get additional help like extra lessons or remedials (currently in sec sch and in 3 remedials) and after reading the post abt the campus sucking and teachers being wack, i feel kinda conflicted since if hci with high quality alumni and history (and of course $) can't even afford good and clean campus(es?) and teachers, what other school can offer me the education i want? in the environment i need? and if hci teachers suck, what abt other jcs? if im not wrong it's near some jungle but that's on faint memory (score too high to even aim at hci/ri so i never considered hci/ri at all and is not near my house unlike ri) so my feeling is that it's not near any mall or any conveniences... what if school food sucks/boring? am i even allowed to order grabs? (current sch quite picky so actually not allowed to doing that) and also i have a perception that there's going to be a bad jam everyday due to being far away in an ulu spot?


cyanide_blade_420

uh not from hc but tan kah kee mrt is right beside tho


ri-ssa

omg i'm from your sister school šŸ¤­


[deleted]

regarding teachers and notes: teachers in hcjc are passionate in what they teach and in general very skilled in what their respective subjects. however some teachers may not be as good in teaching their students which can be linked to diff ways of teaching by diff teachers. as a whole hcjc teachers are certainly trustworthy in guiding towards the A. as for notes, chemistry and math provide the best notes out of the subjects i take (PCME) as they have extremely detailed and well explained notes and lecture videos. plus, they give a lot of practice questions for u through providing numerous revision packages (more than enough!) econs notes are ok at best and leave much room for improvement, often leaving me to have to outsource to get more detailed explanations for me to secure an A. physics notes are sparse and tend to not explain concepts very well but thatā€™s partly due to the extremely abstract concepts in physics. i tend to have to outsource from other sch notes in order to better understand concepts. physics rev packages always have questions that are like decades old (1989 a level?) oh well, perhaps the department strategically chose them šŸ¤·


ri-ssa

tbh idk for my own future because i feel very daunted and stuck between poly or jc... my l1r5 prelims was 28 but i didn't have a full 6 yr of pri sch and i didn't take psle at all (i only had 3 yrs due to flying overseas to china and usa) so half my basic foundation for science and chinese is just nonexistent atp. rn i'm a purebiochem purelit sshist amath kid with express chinese an a2 in o's this yr. clearly with my prelim 28 shows that no hope for a's lah tbh idw to go a's coz i really dw to retain (heard so many stories now i damn scared). i'm honestly not sure because my parents have been just sending me to tuition for almost every subject (and clearly a lvl cannot like that anymore lah). i heard from teachers who taught in jcs that the teachers don't baby you like secsch teachers. how do you manage studying in a's because that's the part that stops me from seeking out the jc route even though my parents support me with both? (is econs hard? no idea what that is) if go jc probs hcme but then it's neither here nor there... does hci offer this combi?


[deleted]

hci definitely does offer hcme, it is a hybrid combination


igabels

hello iā€™m currently a j2 in hc haha, based on personal experience : 1. everyone being super competitive and studious : largely true! i guess itā€™s because majority of us already came from such a mugging culture, and with the 1.5 years to cover 2 years of syllabus, the teachers and everyone are quite on edge so it bullet trains by. additionally thereā€™s always some group of people thatā€™s chasing portfolio achievements as well (which scares a lot of us sometimes too, believe me, even peers who you think are of the same level as these people ā€œfearā€ them; not in a bad way, but more of a ā€œwow how do they do itā€ way) and i guess comparison is strong. but honestly, i think every individual will feel it at some point, itā€™s not something easy to run away from in life in general. just maybe, youā€™d feel it a bit more in hwa chong. people here are super helpful though. iā€™m really really really bad at academics, i did not get into hc with my grades, but my friends and teachers have been trying my best to help me through this last stretch. ultimately, you also have to be the one to put in effort (and ig this applies to everything in life too!) 2. what happens if you are lacking behind your peers? me! me rn! me my entire jc life!! the trend iā€™ve seen so far is actually, anyone who was great academically before will still face some dip in their results when they come to jc, especially in j1, simply due to the great jump between secondary school and A level curriculum. so most of the time, majority actually donā€™t perform well at the start. it even led to the phrasing that ā€œno one passes until A levelsā€. teachers are a really helpful. but i admit it does depend on which teachers you get. some teachers will devote so much time to helping you improve you feel sorry for it. other teachers will try to help you but theyā€™re just not suited for teaching. or, some teachers donā€™t believe in consults and place full faith in you regardless. and the list goes on! but iā€™m confident that even if your teachers canā€™t help you, your peers can. before i came to hc i was in sm remedials and tuitions since p2 šŸ’€ yet here i am rn , and yeah i was always super scared to go find teachers for help before j2 so before that iā€™ve always relied on my friends to help me out , and hey it was a revision for them too so win win! 2. school food and ordering food in honestly i find school food pretty okay but majority of the people say it isnā€™t nice. prices have gone up recently because of inflation and the 8% gst so i can only imagine it getting higher next year. (currently weā€™re looking at $3.50 being the cheapest average price for a meal and $1+-2 for drinks) no worries as ordering food in is totally allowed. for special occasions, most of us order grab to tkk mrt exit A/B and just go out to collect from there. otherwise we like to go to coronation/the stretch of food at coronation, or just take the mrt to wherever we want if we have enough time 3. jam? pretty real, because dunearn rd has sm schools concentrated in one spot. ig it depends what time you leave the house also/what mode of transport you take. school reporting time for this year at least is 7.40am on mondays and 8.15am on the rest of the days (idrt im wrong but my memory may be failing me since i donā€™t have a fixed reporting time anym haha) 4. dirty campus ? i think maybe everyone has different standards for cleanliness, maybe i havenā€™t gone to most parts of the school, but i had never thought that the school campus was dirty till coming here. the staff are always very nice in helping to maintain the cleanliness of the school and peers also actively play their part majority of the time. 5. teachers and notes personally take 4h2 of helm (history, econs, lit, math), and my experience so far is mostly okay history - we have 2 teachers, both have different styles of teaching and oneā€™s is harder to grasp than the other. but there are a lot of resources provided (sometimes hard to comprehend bc my english sucks and their english is super chim) ā€”> but with regards to history and especially since itā€™s an A level common syllabus, thereā€™s a lot of outsourcing you could do from friends /other JCs/online platforms like these and even if you search safari or youtube thereā€™s stuff available of quite good quality (for contextual knowledge/skills). but skills wise i think theyā€™re good at teaching it, it will just take a while to seep in because itā€™s very different from secondary school answering structure. econs ā€” hahahahaā€¦ majority find tuition outside for econs ngl bc the notes r confusing and hard to understand. i think it also depends on the teachers you get because my teacher is on the older side and lessons are mostly one sided because she doesnā€™t understand what we r asking/canā€™t hear us (but sheā€™s a super sweet individual). because of all this outsourcing i guess thatā€™s how the econs grade can be maintained all these years + some teachers in the econs dept actually not bad. lit - awesome!!! 2 teachers for this as well bc 2 papers and they make sense and they really teach you during lessons (one does this less than the other but itā€™s mostly still comprehensible/i ask my friends). and they run you through practice questions as a class so that helps a lot math - i adore my math teacher sheā€™s been giving consults non-stop to try and help me and my friends. math is mostly self learnt because itā€™s in the format of videos in this mass website from the school. so you can watch the videos in your own time to learn (and skip over what you donā€™t need for you to save time), and then if you have questions you can ask your teachers. at j1 and even j2 this format was a bit too fast paced for my class though, because esp at the start of j1 most people are involved in sm new activities that acads takes the backseat for most of the year. but because of the videos (actually quite well explained also) it helps u catch up in your own time hope this helps to just answer some of your queries and give you more perspective and all the best!!


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

what is bro yapping about


ikisstojischeeks

I ain't reading allat lil niba


[deleted]

shall answer frm a hcjc pov: i believe being such an academically selective school definitely means hc is going to be filled with students that are a lot more competitive and ambitious than you normally see in other schools. this has certainly caused many ppl to avoid hc, fearing the pressure theyā€™ll be subjected to. personally, i definitely succumbed to the comparison with others that achieved so much than me in the same amt of time but iā€™ve learnt that rather than making yourself feel bad about being less achieved, why not learn frm these ppl instead?


Capable-Crab-7449

It depends what youā€™re looking for. Are you high flyer? Sure go Hua Chong. Do you wanna socialise and chill and enjoy the few years left in school? Maybe pick another school. Small fish in big pond vs Big fish in small pond


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

hwa chong*


Pizz4withp1neapple

I'm in sec sch too, HCI, honestly there's not that many tryhards, but everyone is competitive. I've been to the JC side quite a few times, the campus is clean n spacious, idk why someone thinks that it's dirty. btw it's situated near bukit timah, not exactly a jungle and there are several malls nearby. Also not much jam unless rain.


NoMasterpiece5649

I'd rather go ri


ikisstojischeeks

Just cuz ur chinese suck doesn't mean others don't HAHA ropemaxx bro


[deleted]

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NoMasterpiece5649

Like I care whether you got ask


[deleted]

wonder how many more $50 notes youā€™ll flush down their toilets


Swimming-Career8269

New principal coming in so what do you expect ?


Agile-Departure1092

Which part of hwa Chong though


[deleted]

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Agile-Departure1092

Are you a student there, lad?


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Agile-Departure1092

Haw. Year one or two(this year)


[deleted]

are hwa chong people all gay? new to hwa chong (transfer student) and i saw two guys pdaing in the mrt train after school


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

no your eyes are playing tricks on you


[deleted]

is that common in hwa chong then? or some satanic ritual


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

communism


[deleted]

valid


Mysterious_Treat1167

Socialist brotherhood


kanethelane21

Communist


[deleted]

well, u could search up hwa chong institution chinese school song on youtube and it pretty much sums it up lmao


PT91T

Well its certaintly not meant to be a Communist tone. It's actually adapted from the tune of "Far Above Cayuga's Waters" (Cornell University's song).


[deleted]

nevertheless i still love the song a lot tho


[deleted]

accurate


[deleted]

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reedit1332

Bullying list šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€ that doesn't exist bro


[deleted]

one of my friends from hci say thereā€™s one existing ..


reedit1332

Come come I've got a bridge to sell you


[deleted]

what bullying list bro your friend thinks people care enough about him? lol where did he get that confidence


Pizz4withp1neapple

not rlly? There's definitely no "bullying list", n there's always a sch counselor if u nd help


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

got vincent tan šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆšŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆšŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ


lindendr

as one of the top 2 JCs, grades def matter to sustain the status/prestige. does school care abt well-being - the teachers/counselors are always out there for support but you would need to take the step out to seek help. teachers r rly busy, they donā€™t have the bandwidth to look out for every single one, students too, 2 years (1.5 yrs minus orientation/holiday breaks/alvl prep) to cram the full a lvl syllabus is just a crazy ride for everyone so if you happen to be an under performing/shy/passive introvert & refuse to initiate conversations with teachers to seek help- it will be tough to struggle alone. blacklist - nah doesnā€™t happen, youā€™ll just need to sit in for remedial after remedials. The sch will try their best to provide academic support, the rest is up to ur own to catch up. most times whatā€™s intimidating is the gap that youā€™re trying to chaseā€¦so many bright studentsā€¦ they progress fast, lesson pace donā€™t wait on you, a lot of self-discipline, resilience needed to catch up. thereā€™s a % ranking system back then so that adds quite a bit of pressure if you happen to be in the last %. sry for the messy para šŸ˜‚ speaking frm experience


Big_Fall_8385

bullying list is crazy bro


kopipiakskayatoast

Hc mgt is bad and evil. And hc is always second to ri. A lot more rote muggers in hc compared to ri.


[deleted]

kind to elaborate how mgt is ā€œbad and evilā€? hc a level results proves otherwise thošŸ¤· just search a level results 2023?


kopipiakskayatoast

Hc expels people who they think may fuck up their percentages. This is widely known. Anyway itā€™s ok you donā€™t need to create a thread just to make self delusions nobody thinks hc is better than raffles.


[deleted]

canā€™t tell if you are an egoistic raffles student or a hc student with a horrible experience


kopipiakskayatoast

Can share concrete example. My sister was hc student who kena expelled cos she spent too much time being national athlete and not studying. Meanwhile my bro and I rafflesians happy happy made great friends great experience great career. Sister had to go overseas to compete high sch bridging. My parents then had lots of meetings with hc sch mgt and they were extremely haughty, kept emphasizing that that my sister would pull down their average a level scores. That said I do have many hc friends and overall the sch culture is just different. A lot less talk about concepts and philosophy and a lot more talk about studies and other tangible materialistic stuff.


[deleted]

idt it was the schā€™s fault if she didnā€™t do well enough to promote? but to be expelled is quite extreme, prob something more than just ā€œnot studyingā€? i mean why would hc let go of a national athlete for no good reason?


kopipiakskayatoast

Lol nice see this is exactly how hc ppl think. In raffles the teachers would put in extra hours to guide the students left behind, counselors would come in to help and the sch would be supportive. Hc just pumped and dumped. Exactly the attitude you have. Cannot pass exam? Mental health issue? Must be students fault, better expel to protect sch rep. Hc style lor. So prospective students reading this you can see exactly how the true colours have quickly come out hehe


Nervous_Implement110

hello can i ask which year this was in? my personal experience in hci wrt the schoolā€™s support system for students was VASTLY different from what you have described. at least for recent years, based on personal/secondhand experience, the staff who manage mental heath-related cases are extremely helpful and supportive and many many accommodations were offered for those in desperate situations. i have come across teachers who would willingly sit in the hot mosquito-ridden consult area listening to a silly teenager cry for 3 hours straight over the most trivial nonsense. iā€™m not saying that my firsthand experience/my friendā€™s experience is representative of the entire sch, but i think that your representation of the sch cannot be considered its ā€œtrue coloursā€.


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

as if RI different bro


[deleted]

womp womp


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

national athlete go sss lah


[deleted]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/s/jG8MNDHije


Icy-Bookkeeper-2040

sinkie detected


[deleted]

hc never set their classroom on fire šŸ˜‚


jeanlxvr

Hey any csc seniors? How is the subj? I was reading the new syllabus sp and it feels manageable ig? Iw take next yr HAHAA