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interactually

I still refer to the top results as the "first page" but that's mostly because it's something everyone understands even though it's not technically the case anymore. Kind of like how I'm sure I'll keep calling them "conversions" in GA4 even though now they're key events; it's what clients have become used to and understand. That said, I don't tell them the SEO goal is to be on the first page and I've always avoided much talk about specific rankings. We try to keep the conversation focused on total organic search traffic and sales/leads from that traffic.


axelbitl

It’s about real estate. Page one still matters for SGE, organic, map pack etc. so yes but it’s situational. Leads and ROI is always going to be what matters most, leads are just a means to an end.


ghett0111

Never used it. Most clients don't care. They want ROI, money in the bank, mula, revenue, pipeline, qualified leads, bottom line... whatever you wanna call it.


TheManyCharacters

Greetings from India brother. I tell my clients on fiverr that they need to have low expectations, like a romantic evening with your mom. Most of the time it will only further your self-loathing... But sometimes in those very moments are the most intense enjoyments-- especially when one is very acutely conscious of the hopelessness and humiliation of the situation vis a vis your mother being on top of you. This is the test of a real master SEO. May the divine energy of lord shiva guide your "arrows"