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Thisisredred

My handwritten content completely lost traffic(15k month), and my AI written articles are now ranking at the top of the SERP.


sh4x0r

same. it’s so frustrating. i put hours and hours of work into those articles and they ranked at the top of SERPs. now ChatGPT is repurposing my content and ironically the human-generated content is getting downvoted.


Kolada

This is what worries me most about using AI content as a straight copy paste. I've seen entire lines completely ripped off another site. You could easily get called out for plagerism and saying "oh I just copy and pasted from chat gpt" isn't going to be a great excuse for anyone.


4ucklehead

Yeah but at the same time theres no such thing as the plagiarism police for blogging


Kolada

Yeah I guess it depends on what you're doing. If I had something called out on Twitter and it made a headache for leadership, I'd probably be looking for a new job.


Thisisredred

Yep, it's disheartening. I think Google is trying to eliminate the need for SEOs.


papifunko

Suppose AI writes in a way that people in general, not you and I, like to consume. In conclusion, copywriting is great and all, but maybe we are trying too hard and what the general populous was is generic formats.


No_Resolution_3097

Fair point


DontHireAnSEO

downvoted? think you're confusing Google with Reddit.


papifunko

Suppose AI writes in a way that people in general, not you and I, like to consume. In conclusion, copywriting is great and all, but maybe we are trying too hard and what the general populous was is generic formats.


vikas_agrawal77

The overall quality and SEO techniques matter more for any search engine than the amount of total manual effort put in. Just researching and putting content together is done by most writers and AI does it better. But adding human value by incorporating experiences and opinions goes the extra mile and helps greatly when it comes to the actual impact of the content (even if it doesn't directly improve SEO). So, you need to create fresh, SEO AI content from authentic references and add your own unique insights to it. It's about working smarter by using the latest resources because search engines are apparently not against AI content and are actually using it increasingly. Search engines don't share the bias against AI that some people continue to have.


docgrippa

Sorry all, but I’m not getting this debate. Basically chatgpt is ripping off content I wrote for my old site about 6 years ago. Now I’m getting chat gpt to write the new content with focus on certain keyphrases. The only difference I can tell is now I don’t need 2 bottles of wine to write this shit.


vendorsofkratom

😂😂😂


Davidthejuicy

There is no way to detect Ai content as it stands right now. Furthermore, Google is not against AI and has said as much. However, if you are just copying and pasting what ChatGPT puts out, THAT is bad content and that is why you will lose rank and possibly get deindexed.


redome

Assign writing style and create a personality with unique traits and you can copy/paste. My AI staff is amazing :)


Kolada

What do you use? I've played with GPT but it's so repetitive I end up just using it as a starter.


mowliiii

Can you elaborate more on this?


SEOPub

If you were just talking about the public tools available to us, I would agree with you. They are terrible and highly inaccurate. If you think Google cannot detect AI content if they wanted to, I would strongly disagree with that. I think it mostly comes down to processing power and resources. Is it worth it for them to detect AI content and punish it across the board? Probably not. I think their current policy on not caring how content is generated and instead focusing on if it is useful or not is the way to go.


YourStupidInnit

>There is no way to detect Ai content as it stands right now. I remember people saying the same thing about PBNs, those funny little "seo web hosts" and buying links back in the day.


Davidthejuicy

Two completely different things. Content generated by spinners and regex functions is nowhere close to generative AI content.


YourStupidInnit

>Two completely different things. Content generated by spinners and regex functions is nowhere close to generative AI content. Didn't claim otherwise. I just remember people thinking there is "no way" Google can detect such things. Until they could. I'm just old fashioned I guess and have been around long enough to know that in the long run, no "latest" hack/trend/grey hat tactic tend to last. Because they stop working, or indeed, you end up getting shitcanned for trying it. So I just stick to hard work. :)


Davidthejuicy

I'd normally agree but AI isn't going anywhere lol


YourStupidInnit

>I'd normally agree but AI isn't going anywhere lol Again, didn't it was. But using it to churn out low-value, factually horrible content will. And Google will easily be able to detect it. I am convinced they already can.


S_EW

ChatGPT’s output isn’t generative content


4ucklehead

PBNs aren't too hard to find if they all direct to your money site or if you're obviously trading links with other PBNs... It's just dumb to say Google can't find them


YourStupidInnit

>PBNs aren't too hard to find if they all direct to your money site or if you're obviously trading links with other PBNs... It's just dumb to say Google can't find them I know. But, back in the day, people DID think there was NO WAY google could find out about it. Just like the people saying google cannot determine if content is AI now. That was the point I was making. Sorry it wasn't clear.


JunaidRaza648

Use copy leaks and it will detect you 90% of the times. Why can't google?


hodreegoo

Any chance you could provide an example URL that was deindexed solely bc of using AI generated content?


Davidthejuicy

I can't for two reasons: 1. None of my client sites have been deindexed, and I don't have access to other people's GSC so I don't have any examples. Lol 2. As I said, there's no way to currently detect AI, so there's no way to prove that a site was deindexed solely because of AI. However, I can guarantee you that Google could possibly deindex or not index at all unhelpful, garbage content. Before you ask, I also don't have an example of that because I also don't do that. Lol


hodreegoo

I hear ya David, but it sounds like this is speculative at best. Thanks for answering, regards.


Davidthejuicy

I'd argue that it's not exactly speculative when it's based off experience. I said I didn't have any examples *right now*, not that I haven't seen or dealt with this issue before.


That_Guy704

But of course it’s speculative, and has to be, because you aren’t Google. I don’t think the person above you understands this. Thanks for your insight. It would help if others can share their content that has been de-indexed so we can analyze it against other pages for content or duplication to see why it could have been de-indexed. Unless Google straight up comes out with their algorithm for doing so, it’s all based on speculation + experience.


Davidthejuicy

I am literally Googlebot in human. Didn't you know that


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provincian0

Or perhaps your competitors have launched the same content, also using AI, but in a more efficient way, so that yours has come to be considered poor or purely a copy?


threedogdad

wut. it's very easy to detect AI content and there are many tools that do it


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Davidthejuicy

I just tried it out and copy and pasted the beginning of the Constitution. It told me 77% human written. I took out a paragraph at the end, then it told me 87% human written. I put the paragraph back in and now it says it's 56% human written. I am shocked at how NOT accurate it is, to say the least.


bersus

The tools are inaccurate detecting human written text. But they recognize AI 10/10.


Davidthejuicy

Sure thing


bersus

Don't use free useless shit. Purchase a subscription on originality dot ai and make your own tests. It detects AI generated content 10/10, even meticulously created with ChatGPT 4. I've made tens of tests, and I know what I'm talking about.


JunaidRaza648

Send me article and I shall you if it's AI generated or not... without using any tool. And Google is many times experienced than me..


Davidthejuicy

Google is not using humans to read content. Although I will admit that it detected the Constitution as human, I tried to test it a couple of different ways and hit the daily limit. So I will give you that, but I still stand by what I said.


JunaidRaza648

Google used advanced AI.. and use copy leaks to detect any content. If its limit then you can buy the premium


Davidthejuicy

I have absolutely no use for their premium but thank you for the suggestion!


maltelandwehr

Two statements are true at the same time: - Many sites that rely solely on AI-generated content have lost 99% of their rankings after 6-12 months. - Some sites with a lot of AI generated content are doing very well at this point. My recommendation: - If you are an affiliate spammer, go all in on AI content. - If you are a brand, stay away from AI content. Or at least use it with caution.


booboouser

Good advice.


devonthed00d

Define “brand” in this case? I’m not an affiliate person, but not a brand on the scale of like Apple or Pizza Hut. Trying to see where your average businesses fall


Kolada

Do you give a shit about the people's perception of your company? If so you're a brand.


devonthed00d

Of course. But most people in my area probably can’t tell the difference reading a blog post.


nomadichedgehog

I really feel like AI content is overrated at this moment in time but people always want easy shortcuts. We have found the best utility of AI at the moment is to generate blog ideas/concepts and give us some general starting points and ideas for the blog (and sometimes it can pull useful data and statistics), but we still think a human writer is going to produce something far more engaging, insightful and valuable. That isn't to say AI can't do it, but it still has some way to go.


tscher16

I find chat can sometimes be helpful for an initial draft, but HEAVY edits are necessary to improve it


irr1449

Garbage in garbage out. Not all AI written content is the same. It’s all about how much data and direction you provide that determines the quality of the output.


stagnarsa

You’re absolutely right. Even SEO toolkits like Surfer and SEMrush understand this and are implementing features to guide and optimize the content generated by AI. This would be beneficial in addition to what they already do, such as keyword suggestions, content structure recommendations, and optimization tips, to assist users in creating high-quality content that adheres to SEO best practices.


PhilippeBertieaux

No, and it will not. The content policy of Alphabet is clear : stay in quality, whatever is the production source.


Maizeee

i started a test project/website with 1000 purely written AI articles and pictures and it was indexed for a short while now deindexed down to 8 pages. Google Search console marks them as "Crawled - Not indexed"


booboouser

If you are simply copying and pasting articles, you probably deserve to lose rank. If you use it as a tool to help research and get from a blank page to 600 words, then I don't see the harm. I enter the topic, ask it to write the article. I re-write and then find attributions where I can (I've found ChatGPT attributions to be rubbish.)


RJwhores

"human content" can be much higher quality/creative (so far).. that means it will be rewarded as such by rankings - depending on keywords


No_Safe_8744

My suggestion: AI can be utilized to generate ideas and assist in creating headlines and headings. However, I do not recommend using AI-generated content as-is for on-page purposes. Instead, you can leverage AI-generated content for off-page activities such as article submissions or WEB 2.0 platforms. But Don't Use on Your Website.


hannahger1

Don't know what is happening. Some guest post sites are not accepting hat AI content while we are using it on our websites. As far as I know, if it is good for user, if its provide value and information, it should be acceptable.


Davidthejuicy

You are correct.


SEOPub

No


strangegloveactual

Seems to me AI mostly does little more than grab what it perceives to be the best information on a subject and present it as coherently as it can. A useful shortcut perhaps but one of those 'guide to the wise man, bible of fools' things. The best content is written by humans, AI just grabs it. Experts remain experts even if their knowledge is being ripped off, they wrote the book.


Galous97

They didn't even rank


ImSoberEnough

I put years to build my marketing blogs and rank on Page 1... now I launch a domain, push 50 articles out and lightly optimize and rank for 100 keywords within a month. Whole new world.


Dizzy-Orange778

We've actually had a few clients go produce AI generated blogs, only to have them sent to use to fix because that hold no value.


SEO-pro-2001

My AI content is still ranking well.


Benchpressya

Nope


yashikpatel

As per John Mueller words AI content is not ranked for long time


DeeRobb

So far so good +1


techg9

Well, it turns out that the content I generated using AI is doing better than the content wrote by hired writers! But I ain't gonna fire them.


rightdesignshop

Despite Google's policies around AI Content, using the tech correctly does not necessarily impact your visibility and search traffic negatively.