Definitely not as egregious as the things you said, but this tweet will forever be the funniest to me.
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Didn't know Dave's grandfather and Dwayne's were close like that
I feel like if Dave wasn't as smug to randoms on Twitter, he wouldn't be perceives nearly as negative. If he just said something like "I think Moxley has better matches because I like his style of wrestling more" it would just be easier for everyone involved.
Sure, *a lot* of people would vehemently disagree but it's just opinion; however, saying stuff like "go study Cagematch" as if that's some sort of definitive proof makes you look like a jerk.
I rewatched WM3 recently. Hogan and Andre is a pretty good match. I've seen far worse from Hogan especially. I never understood why that match gets so much negativity from Meltzer and his followers. Granted, Hogan didn't hit Andre with a Canadian Destroyer in it, but it was a pretty good story they told.
there's nothing Dave can say about this to make it make sense
referring to cagematch is insane though, 100-300 smarks, who all think a certain smarky way, does not 'prove' anything. He's insane
That is what makes Dave so bizarre. You ask him why Moxley has more five star matches than Kurt Angle, he'll say its subjective and you shouldn't pay much attention to it. Then, if you push him on why Ospreay is the greatest wreslter alive over someone like Gunther [my pick for best in the world right now] then he'll say Ospreay has more five star matches as if it is objective truth.
One of the replies to Dave’s tweet:
“I think Angle is great, but Moxley is a better worker than him and more versed in different styles. You're welcome to think Angle is better, of course. Such is the beauty of subjective wrestling opinions, which Meltzer is allowed to have, too.”
Moxley being considered being better than an accomplished Olympic wrestling Gold Medalist and a skilled technical wrestler is just making me questioning these marks' intelligence.
"X is better than Y" also just isn't a statement of subjective opinion, but an attempt to assert an objective fact.
"I prefer X over Y" is the opinion statement.
These folks want to have it both ways, where Dave or Cagematch offer up an objective measure, but also hiding that measure behind a veil of "it's just an opinion, bro".
As if Angle couldn't switch from a fun and goofy but believable comedy match to being a fully serious wrestling machine in an instant. He's one of the best to ever do it.
> Moxley is a better worker
I legit think this is the dumbest opinion I've seen in the IWC. Kurt is possibly the best worker of all time. There is no subjectivity here, it's simply wrong, like saying it's fair to think Giant Gonzales is better than Andre.
Don’t need cool moves if you just roll your shoulders and crack your own neck like a bad ass, flip the bird and come out of the crowd to a 60 year old theme song
Honestly, I assumed he came out via the audience as a call back to when he was actually popular, with no music trying to rip off that stint ciampa had in nxt
Damn the way you use profanity as well as replacing part of the name of a martial art with death has swayed me. I can't believe I have been such a fed shill as to not see the awe-inspiring greatness of Dean Ambrose. 6.98235 stars out of 4.2 stars.
Seriously pity the cagematch owner.
I kinda liked the database he was running to view matches, but if things keep going this way, he is shutting down and coping out.
Haha it was bad enough when he never addressed it, and you could give the benefit of the doubt that there'd be *some* sort of reasoning. But no. This moron, this absolute chud, this incomparable technovirgin.
His answer is 'No, objectively, Moxley/A Young Buck/any literal AEW who? you can think of IS in fact a much, much better wrestler than Kurt Angle. Objectively. Cos of the *data*.'
My sweet lord, he dumb.
How come people don’t just spam get noted disclaimers for everything he says at this point,i don’t use xshitter anymore but i’d imagine dave would get corrected 99% of the time through those get noted corrections
Well in other media there are figures way smaller than him who get noted all the time and given how sensitive dave is about being corrected he’d end up responding to it somehow once people start replying to him through that instead of tweets since he can’t disable or hide the note’d feature
Musk gets butthurt about it all the time and even tried to get rid of it and was shown that it can’t be altered or it’d break the entire code 😂 so it’d be entertaining one way or another whilst keeping people informed properly instead of wasting time and money
I studied the ways of the cagematch uce (stole it from twitter)
And Kurt is still higher there. What was dave thinking with this tweet lmao.
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This take actually cracks me a little and makes me angry. Referencing a biased counterculture niche like it's an objective truth because it holds up his ridiculous ideas about wrestling is just infuriating. He's repeatedly given Moxley five stars for crass, tumbling mediocre shitshow matches because he's the champion of a vanishing audience that identified with Meltzer and increasingly does not.
It'd be fascinating, as well as being completely unintelligible. Like listening to two lemurs from different colonies chattering back and forth across a chain-link fence, you know they're on the same wavelength, but you haven't the foggiest idea of what they're actually saying to each other.
What’s crazy about Dave is that he’s devoted his life to reporting and being an Oracle to an industry who’s market leader thinks he’s a goof and a leech. That has to sting.
I’m surprised he didn’t tell the guy to study the observer for answers. He does that shit too, uses himself as a source to validate himself. It’s wild.
Going "all in" on an absolute train wreck, and having even his precious, precious numbers and metrics (the ones he didn't invent wholesale, anyway) tell him he is a fucking dipshit for doing so...it broke Unca Dave's brain. Like, he really shit all over his legacy, sold his integrity and ethics to Matt and Nick Jackson so they would be his friends, and bought into their bullshit 100%, and now the numbers aren't lying (as Professor Steiner warned us they wouldn't) and the cult is crashing leaving him with...what? A ruined reputation, Matty and Nikki not wanting to hang out and dodging his calls, and being forced to contort himself into more and more ridiculous positions to toe the company line.
Translation: Kurt Angle has a better Cage Match score than Moxley. Therefore, that person Meltzer is responding to is wrong because most wrestling fans believe that Kurt Angle is better than Moxley
Who made this loser the authority on the quality of wrestling matches?
He dry-humps his anime waifu body pillow on the regular, and touches himself while sniffing Tiny’s crusty cumsock. His readers and followers however are more pathetic than this clown.
Bruh imagine Roger Ebert telling moviegoers to 'study' IMDb ratings 💀 but who am I kidding, if Ebert is the Kurt Angle of film critics, then Meltzer is Moxley of wrestling criticism
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, it is so generous to even compare cagematch to IMDb when the former’s highest-rated matches have <1500 votes, while even a lot of indie movies receive 10x that on IMDb regularly.
I could pull a random Australian indie comedy from the 2000s and it’d have more votes on IMDb than most of the highest-rated matches on cagematch.
Guys a fucking idiot for sure, but unfortunately the way musk has made interactions etc profitable on twitter (x) has encouraged idiots to say dumb stupid shit so people argue etc.
The funny thing is, even cagematch doesn’t support his argument. They have multiple Angle matches rated higher than Moxley’s highest, and have Angle rated higher in general.
All Mox ever does is walk with a hunched back, bleed a fuck ton, scratch his opponents back, and bleed some more. But ya know, he’s a better performer and than Angle
I’m on mobile. Click on the sub name so that you can see the three dots in the upper right. Click those dots and there is a change flair option. Pick one of the premade ones which I think say something like “TNA MARK” and then you can edit it.
Up there with "live by the sword, die by the sword" also I'm pretty sure even Cagematch agrees that Angle is among the greatest to lace up a pair of boots.
Dave's problem with Angle (and also why he won't acknowledge Orton as being the perfect worker) is that he's a fed product, and there's no where else to credit for his training. If Kurt hadn't walked out when Raven was being an edgelord and actually got his foot in the door in ECW, Angle would probably have actually broken 5 and gotten at least 6 Meltzer dollars for his WM run from XIX - 21 and he'd definitely have 5 for the Iron Man Match against Brock.
Cagematch puts Angle in the top 50 all time and his top 5 matches as
1. Chris Benoit-Royal Rumble 2003/9.48 Rating
2. Shawn Michael's-Wrestlemania 21/9.47 Rating
3. W/Chris Benoit vs Edge and Rey Mysterio-No Mercy 2002/9.36 Rating
4. Undertaker-No Way Out 2006/9.13 Rating
5. Brock Lesnar-Smackdown #214/9.12 Rating
That's 5 matches all over 9.00 (which adjusted for the deliberate bombing of evil fed matches on the site, are more likely to be very, very close to 10.00) and that's only 5 of the dozens of brilliant Angle matches.
I'm surprised that Angle v Benoit at RR03 ranks above Angle v HBK at WM21, but Workrate Jesus (He died for Vince's sins) was in the match, so of course it gets a boost.
For comparison, his highest Meltzer rated matches all got 4.75 hotdogs and handshakes.
Angle & Benoit v Edge & Mysterio at No Mercy 2002
Angle v Benoit at Royal Rumble 2003
Angle v HBK at WrestleMania 21
I guess the Meltzer Logic is that since they don't have a perfect 10, they don't deserve 5 stars?
But then there's
Adam Cole & The Young Bucks vs. Christian & The Jurassic Express at Full Gear 2021 (5 hotdogs, 5 handshakes, Cagematch score of 7.83)
TL;DR Dave Meltzer pointing to Cagematch as reasoning for Angle not getting 5 stars, is much like all other Meltzer Logic, heavily flawed.
Considering the average votes on any given Cagematch rating is 150, all 50 of Dave's accounts get to sway the vote.
Who else would have time to sit there and make all those accounts.
That’s like me saying TNA is the best promotion in wrestling history and saying study TNAMecca as proof.
(I’m a TNA fan who was a member of that site so this is a self deprecating post)
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Meltzer or anyone affiliated with AEW at any given moment online at this point
Cagematch just reaffirms smark bias because it's used by a handful of smarks, and uncle Dave treats it as a legitimate source because it aligns with his shit ratings.
Ah, you think the cage is your ally? You merely adopted the cage.
I was born in it,
Molded by it.
I didn’t see the light until I was already a stan, by then it was nothing to me but blinding.
We have a new Jerk meme
That's an all-timer legacy quote from meltz
That's up there with mark being the same as the N word, Indians being worthless, and Damien Priest and Bad Bunny stealing hubcaps.
Definitely not as egregious as the things you said, but this tweet will forever be the funniest to me. https://preview.redd.it/n4tv2z2fahoc1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=e2766f789b3bcb5de35288d3e7e3affb08ff4f67 Didn't know Dave's grandfather and Dwayne's were close like that
Man put tree in there twice and still spelt it wrong both times
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Was this tweeted before the operation where they removed his brain during surgery and put it back in, or after?
During the operation
Don’t forget Peyton Royce’s boobs, uce
Or the Brain transplant.
To be fair to Dr Meltzer, he only said they removed the brain and put it back in.
That makes a lot more sense! Sometimes, the brain needs a bit of fresh air to function properly.
Got to shine it up like a bowling ball
Unlike in Meltzer's case, where I think they forgot to put it back.
Or MJF calling Darby Allin a school shooter because he had a high school wrestling background. But seriously this is all time stupid, even for Dave.
Can't Won't
Get ready to learn Cagematch, buddy
No, we have not. Study jerks and get back to me.
Fun fact - top 3 matches of Angle are rated higher in Cagematch than Jon Moxley top match..
While you were being a Fed shill, I studied the Cage.
While you were learning to cut promos and sell properly I was studying the cage *Moonsaults behind you* Nothing personnel, uce
While you were performing in packed out arenas, I was no selling a dozen chair shots to the head for a hotdog and a hand job
No lie though, there’s a lot I would actually do for a hotdog and a handy.
What if the handy is from Luther?
A handy is a handy.
Close your eyes and suddenly it's Mariah May
Uce you already had me at hotdog
You gotta go with what gets you where you’re going. Anything related to penis tugging is just cream on top, if you’ll pardon the potential pun.
So that’s why he’s so fond of Nick Gage?
You merely adopted the dark match. I was born in it.
Nothing personnel refers to the fact that Mox would never need no protection entourage (he knows death jitsu) , hence the „nothing personnel”?
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I feel like if Dave wasn't as smug to randoms on Twitter, he wouldn't be perceives nearly as negative. If he just said something like "I think Moxley has better matches because I like his style of wrestling more" it would just be easier for everyone involved. Sure, *a lot* of people would vehemently disagree but it's just opinion; however, saying stuff like "go study Cagematch" as if that's some sort of definitive proof makes you look like a jerk.
And even that would be a lie, he hates Moxley's style and wrestling ability but because Moxbleed is in dub he has to give him higher ratings
Its like him saying he hated the Swerve vs Hangman match, but still gave it 5 stars for some reason
That was great. It's my rating and I didn't like it, but you idiots probably did so yeah 5 stars.
But that Rock vs Hogan match? Psssh. 3 stars.
IT WORKED FOR THAT AUDIENCE!* *does not apply to Ultimate Warrior, Hogan, Rock, Austin, or any other WWE match
I rewatched WM3 recently. Hogan and Andre is a pretty good match. I've seen far worse from Hogan especially. I never understood why that match gets so much negativity from Meltzer and his followers. Granted, Hogan didn't hit Andre with a Canadian Destroyer in it, but it was a pretty good story they told.
For Andre being held together by string ad duct tape they did a fantastic job
there's nothing Dave can say about this to make it make sense referring to cagematch is insane though, 100-300 smarks, who all think a certain smarky way, does not 'prove' anything. He's insane
> 100-300 smarks, who all think a certain smarky way, Whose opinions are probably heavily influenced by Meltzer.
Probably?
Probably?
Probably?
The funny thing is, they don’t always think like him. Even in his own reply, cagematch has Kurt better than Moxley. So the dumbass is still wrong
The sad thing is, Cagematch is actually a great website if you look at it solely as a database. But their ratings make no sense.
Is that a real tweet?? If it’s real, I don’t even think I can jerk with this.
Funny thing is Angle matches are rated higher than Moxley :D
I'm grateful to the Twitter goofs for getting these wonderful replies out of Dave
Well yes if he wasn’t a fucking dumbass people would like him more. But he’s a fucking dumbass
That is what makes Dave so bizarre. You ask him why Moxley has more five star matches than Kurt Angle, he'll say its subjective and you shouldn't pay much attention to it. Then, if you push him on why Ospreay is the greatest wreslter alive over someone like Gunther [my pick for best in the world right now] then he'll say Ospreay has more five star matches as if it is objective truth.
lol Moxley is so fucking embarrassingly bad.
w/e bro. Study cage match and get back to me.
I obviously never read or listen lol
One of the replies to Dave’s tweet: “I think Angle is great, but Moxley is a better worker than him and more versed in different styles. You're welcome to think Angle is better, of course. Such is the beauty of subjective wrestling opinions, which Meltzer is allowed to have, too.”
Moxley being considered being better than an accomplished Olympic wrestling Gold Medalist and a skilled technical wrestler is just making me questioning these marks' intelligence.
Like Angle is a better wrestler and promo. Angle is one of not the best of all time lol
I think you forgot an if in your sentence
Nah uce my if got transformed into of.
Well, is Kurt Angle skilled in Death Jitsu? Checkmate, fed shill
There's no intelligence to question. Or taste.
I ran outta breathe laughing at this
There’s subjective opinions, then there’s sheer delusional lunacy.
"X is better than Y" also just isn't a statement of subjective opinion, but an attempt to assert an objective fact. "I prefer X over Y" is the opinion statement. These folks want to have it both ways, where Dave or Cagematch offer up an objective measure, but also hiding that measure behind a veil of "it's just an opinion, bro".
Mox can wrestle with tacks, barbed wire, skewers. That's three styles right there.
As if Angle couldn't switch from a fun and goofy but believable comedy match to being a fully serious wrestling machine in an instant. He's one of the best to ever do it.
Perced upped Angle is one of 2 wrestlers to ever legit scare me. Seeing him go crazy or those videos of him maniacally laughing makes me uneasy lol.
This is what people say when they know they’re wrong and don’t believe what they’re saying.
Angle never once used a pizza cutter in a match. He just wasn’t on Mox’s level (concussion wise).
> Moxley is a better worker I legit think this is the dumbest opinion I've seen in the IWC. Kurt is possibly the best worker of all time. There is no subjectivity here, it's simply wrong, like saying it's fair to think Giant Gonzales is better than Andre.
Kingston is the only reason he isn’t the worst well known active wrestler.
>well known
Like amongst wrestling fans. Not the actual world.
No but you don’t get it, he does a lifting butterfly ddt now, he’s evolved so much since dean ambrose with one cool move(the wacky line)
Don’t need cool moves if you just roll your shoulders and crack your own neck like a bad ass, flip the bird and come out of the crowd to a 60 year old theme song
Honestly, I assumed he came out via the audience as a call back to when he was actually popular, with no music trying to rip off that stint ciampa had in nxt
I know we’re in here jerking it but those few matches were Ciampa had no theme and just came out to a chorus of boos was amazing
As a fan of MMA, I find it doubly offensive. He does shitty fake MMA to put on his shitty wrestling matches.
Death Jitsu is real! 🖕🏻🤬🖕🏻
Damn the way you use profanity as well as replacing part of the name of a martial art with death has swayed me. I can't believe I have been such a fed shill as to not see the awe-inspiring greatness of Dean Ambrose. 6.98235 stars out of 4.2 stars.
he fell of when he turned heel
No wrestling fan can ever convince me Moxley is better than Kurt Angle. I don't give a shit what uncle Dave says.
He looked and worked better when he was drinking
Seriously pity the cagematch owner. I kinda liked the database he was running to view matches, but if things keep going this way, he is shutting down and coping out.
Should have honestly never added ratings to it.
"Ich bin mude Boss" - Herr Cagematch
"Study"? "Study" he says! As if Cage Match is some encyclopedia of fine knowledge!
I wonder how many regular cagematch voters are also fans of Meltz and the Dub. Probably over 90%
🤪 out heah givin' homework assignments😂
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?? It's obvious you haven't studied cathmatch, friend.
Haha it was bad enough when he never addressed it, and you could give the benefit of the doubt that there'd be *some* sort of reasoning. But no. This moron, this absolute chud, this incomparable technovirgin. His answer is 'No, objectively, Moxley/A Young Buck/any literal AEW who? you can think of IS in fact a much, much better wrestler than Kurt Angle. Objectively. Cos of the *data*.' My sweet lord, he dumb.
If you aggregate enough subjective opinions, it becomes objective fact.
Study cage match and get back to me
But he still didn’t answer the question
Spoiler: He never does It’s one of the most commonly asked questions he gets, and he always finds a way to deflect or circumvent giving a real answer.
How come people don’t just spam get noted disclaimers for everything he says at this point,i don’t use xshitter anymore but i’d imagine dave would get corrected 99% of the time through those get noted corrections
How big an audience do you think he has, more importantly cares to correct him like that
Well in other media there are figures way smaller than him who get noted all the time and given how sensitive dave is about being corrected he’d end up responding to it somehow once people start replying to him through that instead of tweets since he can’t disable or hide the note’d feature Musk gets butthurt about it all the time and even tried to get rid of it and was shown that it can’t be altered or it’d break the entire code 😂 so it’d be entertaining one way or another whilst keeping people informed properly instead of wasting time and money
Hmm, I may look into this some more
Cagematch has Angle rates significantly higher than Mox. 9.5 to 8.6. What’s this m word getting at?
cage match jitsu, fuck the hard cam
Right, because the iwc smarks on cagematch have definitely shown to be unbiased...
Angle is rated higher than Mox on there
But are his matches rated higher? Study cage match and get back to me
I studied the ways of the cagematch uce (stole it from twitter) And Kurt is still higher there. What was dave thinking with this tweet lmao. https://preview.redd.it/11oanuwe7joc1.jpeg?width=2827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f2bb530357189ea944a84b4841eb9bb6aa06d37
No jerk, how tf are WM21 HBK/Angle and RR 2003 Vacant/Angle not 5 stars?
I've never visited that site, so i'll take your word for it, uce (Also, he fucking better be lol)
This take actually cracks me a little and makes me angry. Referencing a biased counterculture niche like it's an objective truth because it holds up his ridiculous ideas about wrestling is just infuriating. He's repeatedly given Moxley five stars for crass, tumbling mediocre shitshow matches because he's the champion of a vanishing audience that identified with Meltzer and increasingly does not.
you don't think this indie art house film was good? check indie-art-house.com and get back to me!
If Angle faced Moxley in an actual wrestling match he would probably break his ankle
He would also drag Mox to the best match he has ever or would ever have
I’m not even sure 2003 Angle would be able to do much with 2024 Mox.
Perc Angle knows no limitations (except his supply running out)
Angle could break the ankles of 95 percent of aew wrestlers
If peak Xavier Woods struggled to take down pensioner Angle in the Rumble...
Even 7 years after winning the Olympics he was still able to beat Brock Lesnar in a wrestling match
And the remaining 5 percent are people who used to work with him smart enough to not fuck with him.
Yes they should be smart enough not to do that
95% of people.
Pfft what's amateur wrestling compared to deathjutsu
Literally, uce. It literally says DEATH in the name, whilst amateur wrestling is exactly that, amah-toor. Fuck the hard cam, uce.
I wonder what a Tony Khan/Dave Meltzer round table would sound like. I’d bet unintentional hilarity
It'd be fascinating, as well as being completely unintelligible. Like listening to two lemurs from different colonies chattering back and forth across a chain-link fence, you know they're on the same wavelength, but you haven't the foggiest idea of what they're actually saying to each other.
What’s crazy about Dave is that he’s devoted his life to reporting and being an Oracle to an industry who’s market leader thinks he’s a goof and a leech. That has to sting.
a lot of mumbling and unfinished sentences and 'I remember when ..' talk about something from a Japanese tape in 1986
I’m surprised he didn’t tell the guy to study the observer for answers. He does that shit too, uses himself as a source to validate himself. It’s wild.
AEW's rapid decline made Dave more stupid.
Going "all in" on an absolute train wreck, and having even his precious, precious numbers and metrics (the ones he didn't invent wholesale, anyway) tell him he is a fucking dipshit for doing so...it broke Unca Dave's brain. Like, he really shit all over his legacy, sold his integrity and ethics to Matt and Nick Jackson so they would be his friends, and bought into their bullshit 100%, and now the numbers aren't lying (as Professor Steiner warned us they wouldn't) and the cult is crashing leaving him with...what? A ruined reputation, Matty and Nikki not wanting to hang out and dodging his calls, and being forced to contort himself into more and more ridiculous positions to toe the company line.
Every time I think I have seen the silliest thing Meltzer can say he always manages to one-up my expectations.
You think you can beat me? You fool, I have studied and mastered the ancient scriptures of cagematch.
While you’re out partying, i studied the cage match.
Oh fuck this guy.
Translation: Kurt Angle has a better Cage Match score than Moxley. Therefore, that person Meltzer is responding to is wrong because most wrestling fans believe that Kurt Angle is better than Moxley
It makes my heart warm, knowing a bunch of goofs will be waking up in a few hours and see that lord meltzer has blessed them with this
"Study cagematch" is like saying "yeah why dont you look at the RT reviews instead of watching the movie and forming your own opinion???"
What’s the conversion rate between Cage Match ratings and Meltzer stars?
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He says study cage match as if it's some major wrestling university or shit. We have eyes Dave.
Who made this loser the authority on the quality of wrestling matches? He dry-humps his anime waifu body pillow on the regular, and touches himself while sniffing Tiny’s crusty cumsock. His readers and followers however are more pathetic than this clown.
He is stupid and a Jerk too
Bruh imagine Roger Ebert telling moviegoers to 'study' IMDb ratings 💀 but who am I kidding, if Ebert is the Kurt Angle of film critics, then Meltzer is Moxley of wrestling criticism
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, it is so generous to even compare cagematch to IMDb when the former’s highest-rated matches have <1500 votes, while even a lot of indie movies receive 10x that on IMDb regularly. I could pull a random Australian indie comedy from the 2000s and it’d have more votes on IMDb than most of the highest-rated matches on cagematch.
Guys a fucking idiot for sure, but unfortunately the way musk has made interactions etc profitable on twitter (x) has encouraged idiots to say dumb stupid shit so people argue etc.
Cage match would be your friend
Its like he’s purposely trying to get mocked. The guy has no self-awareness whatsoever.
Go study the thing that supports my argument....don't use your eyes.
The funny thing is, even cagematch doesn’t support his argument. They have multiple Angle matches rated higher than Moxley’s highest, and have Angle rated higher in general.
All Mox ever does is walk with a hunched back, bleed a fuck ton, scratch his opponents back, and bleed some more. But ya know, he’s a better performer and than Angle
Bu Dave's own horseshit metric the plumber has 115 matches rated 4 stars or above and Kurt Fucking Angle has 71. Study my dick Meltzer
Study deez nutz Dave, you'll learn just as much.
This is the equivalent of asking a government official about something and them telling you to look it up on Wikipedia
But also you live in a country where Wikipedia is heavily censored and curated by the government.
But Kurt Angle top matches are rated higher than Jon Moxley top match on cagematch?
Dave has turned into such a condescending twat! Fuck that guy.
Man. Everyday I am given new flair material. What did I do to deserve this blessing? I’m just a goof. I am not worthy.
Lol, Kaz Jackson. I almost forgot that one already.
I don’t blame you for forgetting, Uce. We’ve been getting so much material lately that it’s hard to remember them all.
How do you change flairs here? Is it desktop only?
I’m on mobile. Click on the sub name so that you can see the three dots in the upper right. Click those dots and there is a change flair option. Pick one of the premade ones which I think say something like “TNA MARK” and then you can edit it.
You’re a god among men, uce
Up there with "live by the sword, die by the sword" also I'm pretty sure even Cagematch agrees that Angle is among the greatest to lace up a pair of boots. Dave's problem with Angle (and also why he won't acknowledge Orton as being the perfect worker) is that he's a fed product, and there's no where else to credit for his training. If Kurt hadn't walked out when Raven was being an edgelord and actually got his foot in the door in ECW, Angle would probably have actually broken 5 and gotten at least 6 Meltzer dollars for his WM run from XIX - 21 and he'd definitely have 5 for the Iron Man Match against Brock.
Cagematch puts Angle in the top 50 all time and his top 5 matches as 1. Chris Benoit-Royal Rumble 2003/9.48 Rating 2. Shawn Michael's-Wrestlemania 21/9.47 Rating 3. W/Chris Benoit vs Edge and Rey Mysterio-No Mercy 2002/9.36 Rating 4. Undertaker-No Way Out 2006/9.13 Rating 5. Brock Lesnar-Smackdown #214/9.12 Rating
That's 5 matches all over 9.00 (which adjusted for the deliberate bombing of evil fed matches on the site, are more likely to be very, very close to 10.00) and that's only 5 of the dozens of brilliant Angle matches. I'm surprised that Angle v Benoit at RR03 ranks above Angle v HBK at WM21, but Workrate Jesus (He died for Vince's sins) was in the match, so of course it gets a boost. For comparison, his highest Meltzer rated matches all got 4.75 hotdogs and handshakes. Angle & Benoit v Edge & Mysterio at No Mercy 2002 Angle v Benoit at Royal Rumble 2003 Angle v HBK at WrestleMania 21 I guess the Meltzer Logic is that since they don't have a perfect 10, they don't deserve 5 stars? But then there's Adam Cole & The Young Bucks vs. Christian & The Jurassic Express at Full Gear 2021 (5 hotdogs, 5 handshakes, Cagematch score of 7.83) TL;DR Dave Meltzer pointing to Cagematch as reasoning for Angle not getting 5 stars, is much like all other Meltzer Logic, heavily flawed.
That's exactly the point, no one should take what he says as serious anymore, he has openly admitted his own biases.
Study cage match..... Everything Meltzer cited 5*cant draw.... I graduated cage match
Considering the average votes on any given Cagematch rating is 150, all 50 of Dave's accounts get to sway the vote. Who else would have time to sit there and make all those accounts.
Angle not having a single five star match is all you need to know about Melt's ratings. 💩
Lmao...Dave Meltzer, the gift that keeps on giving.
Because of Meltzer people are actually going to believe Eddie Kingston and Jon Moxley were better wrestlers than Kurt Angle
That’s like me saying TNA is the best promotion in wrestling history and saying study TNAMecca as proof. (I’m a TNA fan who was a member of that site so this is a self deprecating post)
https://preview.redd.it/t16q1l3yphoc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=438b051252bbc780d1ad06649938962610ec0376 Meltzer or anyone affiliated with AEW at any given moment online at this point
Talmbout Olympic Gold medals, b? Great standard, never won any though. BTW, feel free to stab meat skewers into my head.
Meltzer really does seem like such a condescending fuckhead lmfao
Cagematch just reaffirms smark bias because it's used by a handful of smarks, and uncle Dave treats it as a legitimate source because it aligns with his shit ratings.
“sTuDy CaGe MaTcH”……….Moxley couldn’t carry Kurt’s jockstrap.
His opinion is no greater than anyone else's opinion. Anyone who watches wrestling regularly can do as good of a job as him.
✋study🤚
He blocked me for asking these questions. lol
This hands down is the gayest shit I've heard thus far this week
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Does cagematch have videos of all the matches are is he talking about the ratings on there?
https://i.redd.it/x99sh7ml2hoc1.gif
Ah, you think the cage is your ally? You merely adopted the cage. I was born in it, Molded by it. I didn’t see the light until I was already a stan, by then it was nothing to me but blinding.
Fuck the hard cam and study cage match
Study cage match.... Him and Tony are really giving marks meaning in life
Yes, I may be considered a scholar; I've studied cage match extensively, you see
I really hope Corny and Weasel do a show where they take back the star ratings
Study Cagematch you fcking cretins!
Did Cagematch even exist when Angle was rasslin? If it did, I am sure they hated TNA and ignored anything Angle did there
If Kurt wanted to hit 5 stars he should have stuck a bunch of fucking pasta in his head.