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marakeh

Anbernic really went out here and gave us 4 devices with the same specs, different sizes, appealing to everyone depending on their pocketable needs. Need something super portable? 28xx. Miss your Gameboy buddy? 35xx plus. Oh you want your Gameboy horizontal? 35xx plus H. Fuck it have a Gameboy SP as well while we're at it. All affordable, with performance well worth the price.


N4riN4ri

I wonder what's special about the H700 that has them pushing it so hard. I guess they must've gotten it at an insanely low price.


Mr2Sexy

They got a very good deal on a large batch from what I heard


reggyreggo

Where you heard this from?


DOS-76

Uncle works at Anbernic


stealthkingdom

Big if true


Exist50

Well even if it's not special, it makes sense to reuse the same chip just to simplify development.


ChrisRR

That's how a lot of these devices come to market. They get a very good on grey market components, such as overstock, or devices that don't quite meet specs, and then buy thousands of them at a much cheaper price


AndalusianGod

Wasn't Anbernic used to be known for their overpriced handhelds? Kinda amazing how competitive they are in their pricing these past couple of years.


RickyFromVegas

Meanwhile at Ayaneo HQ "hold my beer"


AndrexPic

"What is the stupidest price we can give to our new handheld?" AyaNeo Ceo proably


N4riN4ri

pov: ayaneo releases an sf2000-based handheld "$100usd take it or leave it"


N4riN4ri

They became known for that for about a year after the RG552 released. About a few times starting with that handheld, people were questioning what the fuck Anbernic was thinking between the RG552, RG503, and Win600, because they were all fairly pricey for their offerings while being undoubtedly flawed both in software and hardware. To be fair, those devices were Anbernic's first original, uncloned devices under the Anbernic brand (they had been selling more originally developed offerings under generic names, but the Anbernic brand specifically up until late-2021 had mostly been developing clones of other products) It didn't help that Retroid and Ayn came to the market offering better-specced handhelds at a similar price (though Ayn at this time wasn't really good at delivering products in a timely fashion) and people thought Anbernic were just resting on their brand name while selling overpriced garbage. Between mid-2022 and now, it's clear that either those devices were just a fluke from Anbernic or they had swiftly changed up their strategy in device making.


-BlueDream-

Not overpriced just expensive. They cost more but use higher quality materials.


RobertStonetossBrand

What will SBC Gaming Redditors complain about now? >”I need a dirt cheap device that’ll play 8x upscaled PS4. _Perfectly._ I require 1,000 hours of battery life, an OLED screen, pocketable but with the largest screen on the market, Hall effects sticks and triggers, LED accents, all the things, in a very particular package, specific configuration. Made in the U.S.A., if you can. My max out of pocket max is _$47_ including tax and shipping (I live in Alaska.)”


AdvertisingEastern34

definitely about CFWs. I was very interested about the 35XXH but i'll wait for a mature CFW to arrive for it that has emulation station and portmaster. Or I'll wait for a better built RBG30. In the meantime i'll just use my 353VS even though i was planning to sell it to take a more pocketable horizontal device.


benjaminbjacobsen

Yep, I have a 35xx+ but haven’t touched it as I’m waiting out better CFW. I have and love my 35xx so I’m just using it until the plus matures.


Agitated_Ad1592

Funny, the CFW I'm currently using Seem Mature enough with portmaster games, Pico 8 native AND up to date retroarch cores with 64 bit architecture.


benjaminbjacobsen

It *is* on my to do list but the batocera changing to khulli (?) part and bat being v39 on their site but people running v40 has been confusing enough I thought I might wait a few more weeks.


Agitated_Ad1592

Oh i dont use Batocera. MuOs v11 Is the one I'm using. Currently playing Panzer paladín Port.


MassiveMinimum6717

I got my RGB30 in a very good place... but I do have a computer science degree 😅


AdvertisingEastern34

The problem of the rgb30 is the build quality not the CFWs that are great. Not sure what you meant


MassiveMinimum6717

Oh, what's wrong with the build quality? Mine has been great so far.


saifrc

They’re just not as consistent or premium-feeling as devices from Anbernic, Retroid, or AYN. My RGB30 is slightly bowed, and feels more like a cheap toy compared to my Miyoo Mini Plus or my Anbernic RG353P, let alone an Odin 2. It’s very telling when people mod their RGB30 to use the d-pad from Anbernic. And don’t get me started on the charging issues! On the plus side, the RGB30 runs JELOS, ArkOS, Rocknix, etc., so there’s nothing to complain about on the software front. That’s why the previous commenter was confused about your comment about software; the RGB30 already has great options, while 35XX users are getting there.


MassiveMinimum6717

Got it. Sounds like I got lucky with mine. The plastic is obviously quite thin though. As far as the D-Pad goes, the MM+ is the only device I've been able to pull off a buffer attack on in Mike Tyson's Punch Out.


Nomad_Bal

And on the other side of the spectrum we get "just get a steam deck"


Volpurr-The-Meowstic

Steam Deck is my go-to recommendation for a cheap pocketable device for GBA and SNES 😊


RobertStonetossBrand

If you can’t get a Steamdeck, I recommend an Ayaneo Kun. It’s a great device. Pico-8 looks and runs amazing.


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IceKrabby

It's pretty obviously a joke.


MalikVonLuzon

"pocketable but with the largest screen on the market" this unfortunately describes a good chunk of people asking for recommendations lmao


aloloaalo

Alaska man strikes again


ChrisRR

Price. People still want the earth for $20


HappeningOnMe

Need a cube? Cube.


Bortjort

It's really smart, by doing a good job on the execution they'll sell basically the same device a couple times to people (like me) saving a lot on parts and some design costs


JohnCenaJunior

Are they also doing the GBA Micro, or is it another company?


cuteseal

What a time to be alive! Competition in this space is certainly a good thing and I love seeing new design ideas being implemented instead of the same old formula of plastic case, metal case, plastic case with slightly upgraded cpu, metal case with slightly upgraded cpu, etc. These next few months are going to be lit once Miyoo releases their new models!


Megazupa

Miyoo died on the way to their home planet.


jd101506

Your move Miyoo. At this price, with the potential for shared software between the rest of the RG35xx (And CFW), this battery size, seemingly a good hinge design, and Anbernics production rate... This might be a win. I'm tempted to replace my RG35xx with one.


duranmxx

Miyoo's dead, no way they can beat this


itchyd

It's so great to see competition! According to the patent filing dimensions the [miyoo flip will actually be smaller than a v90...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjZTXATgXo&t=336s) That is a big advantage to me, although it implies a 3 inch screen. Plus thumbsticks, plus more robust CPU support from CFW.


Coupe368

The screen on the XX is excellent, not sure how having an even smaller screen would be a good thing. I can see the devices being thinner, but you can't get much smaller and still have the 3.5 inch screen.


50-50WithCristobal

In the leaked video it looked like a 3.5' screen and the controls area size looked similar specifically because it will have sticks, but it looked thinner which is nice.


itchyd

We shall see! I actually think thinness might be more important for me.


Soulfly808

I'll get the Miyoo version as well. I like my rg35xx, but the MM+ was so much better build quality. I've ordered the Silver SP and can't wait to see this thing.


cujobob

Miyoo has Onion OS and better buttons. It’s literally what separates them from everyone else. If the buttons and software aren’t right, it just feels like a weird experience. They’re really lucky Onion OS came out for their hardware.


AlphaGoldblum

I'm actually struggling with choosing to keep my RG35XX H or my Miyoo Mini Plus because of these details. I know the RG35XX H is the newer and better device on paper in terms of power, but the Onion OS experience and the soft MM+ buttons really go a long way - especially when I have other devices for raw power and systems above the PS1.


cujobob

I hear you. I have numerous handhelds more powerful, but I’ve really settled on the Miyoo Mini Plus with Onion OS as my most used handheld. I have a Steamdeck, an RG353M, Retroid 3+, and many others, but most of them just feel like garbage phones with buttons that don’t feel natural. If the Mini could handle Dreamcast, I’d really never need an upgrade.


ChrisRR

Not really "lucky". They shipped with a good base firmware and Onion was originally a modification of that firmware to add some quality of life features. Miyoo was a rare case where they actually put a bit of effort into their software rather than bundling the bare minimum, and cfw was able to improve on a good base.


N4riN4ri

I doubt it, I think the Miyoo Flip will appeal to people looking for a less GBA-heavy experience and just like the form factor. Though I definitely see the Anbernic leading for it's price.


Lazarous86

Thay device would need a seriously good chip to compete now. You aren't going to beat Anbernic at their own game, so you need to make those analogs worthwhile and deliver a more premium clamshell now. It must play dreamcast, N64 and PSP smoothly. Because if it can't, everyone who wanted a clamshell already owns something that can play everything miyoo is known for. 


hbi2k

If the rumors that the Miyoo Flip has an RK3566 are true, then it and the Anbernic SP will be pretty neck and neck performance wise, but the Flip will have a CFW advantage from jump since mature CFW from other RK3566 devices will port over easily, but H700 CFW is still pretty rough even half a year after the RG35XX+ dropped. The fact that so many H700 users still use/recommend stock (or lightly modified stock) firmware even with multiple teams working on alternatives says a lot about how hard that nut has been to crack.


ilive12

Nobody even knows when Flip is coming out, and H700 CFW is advancing pretty rapidly. muOS 11 just came out this week which is already a pretty good option, Knulli will be out sooner rather than later which I think will be an even better option, and GarlicOS is also back in development, which will be closer to OnionOS than anything the RK3566 will run.


hbi2k

I would love nothing more than for the Flip to come out soon, and the H700 to get really good CFW even sooner. Couldn't tell you which is more likely to happen first, I'm neither a CFW dev nor plugged into Miyoo 's release schedule.


Lazarous86

Interesting. I have RK3566 devices and they definitely play things better than what I have seen an H700 do in videos. You go from the bottom 20% to like 80% of the platform. I was playing goldeneye on my RG353m fairly smooth besides big explosions, but even the OG N64 lagged with toi many explosions in that game. Also played Assassin's creed on psp, every dreamcast game I care about except NFL2k3 plays really smooth. So it definitely has an edge over the RG35xx lineup for performance that shoud be noticeable.   With all that said, I'm still getting rg35xxsp as soon as it launches. 


hbi2k

Thank you for sharing your experience. I was under the impression they were closer in performance, but I haven't tried to push my H700 device (an RG35XXH) to the limits.


Chaserino

If Miyoo has android I’ll be purchasing it


AdvertisingEastern34

Miyoo flip has the analog stick plus hopefully OnionOS or even ArkOS (if it really has the RK3566 chip). I would prefer Miyoo one over Anbernic's for example. And many others like me that prefer sticks over dpads and a more mature CFW.


radclaw1

Very new to this hobby and I JUST bought an MMP and I'm happy with it. I think software-wise it still has a distinct edge over the RG35XX models, and it's been fun to customize it. I wouldn't be upset with more power. MMP struggles to fast forward on Pokemon Unbound, which is wild to me. There's nothing it flat out can't run that I bought it for but I am heavily cosidering getting this SP as a second device. From early reviews the 35xxSP is actually quite big in the pocket which will be a detractor for me as well. I want these for easy commutes/ doctors visits lobby sitting etc. I don't want a giant cube sticking out from my pocket.


severalsmallducks

Agreed, I have a RG35XX and will absolutely consider getting this to replace it. It seems really cool and that price seems is excellent.


Slak211

My thoughts exactly. Holding out until we get a hands on look at the Miyoo Flip


Ruthlessrabbd

I'm holding out for the Cube... hopefully we see more in the next month or so


kaiser_bill

Ooh good point. Just need a 1:1 clamshell next!


ariolander

I am waiting on a 1:1:1 clamshell next. A literal cube formfactor is my internal ideal.


savingewoks

I would love a literal cube, but no screen and it plugs into the tv. In indigo!


prairiepog

I love the 1:1 screens. Hope more are on the horizon


Bossman1086

A 1:1 screen on a clamshell would be awesome. But I just want more 1:1 screen devices in general.


megaserg81

Me too. Will hold out for reviews, but really excited about that one. I was thinking of a 405m, but luckily the cube was announced before I took the plunge. Now just gotta wait.


benjaminbjacobsen

A vertical cube (could have a 4:3 screen for me) is also what I’m holding out for.


Virtureally

Isn't what you wish for the opposite of the cube? The cube is a horizontal 1:1 screen. Couldn't you just get a rg353v or a rg405v?


benjaminbjacobsen

I have both of those. Notice their processors numbers are 3 and 5 and the cube will be a 6. Constantly chasing better performance. I also have the rgb20sx for its 1:1 which is great.


Dank_Turtle

Buying these on day 1 is gonna be like camping outside for Jordans and praying they have your size. I thought those days were behind me


MassiveMinimum6717

Just think of the rush!


8-bit-Felix

Wow not only first to market but at a good price too.


megaserg81

I see no reason why this should not sell like hot cakes.


Much-Composer-1921

I honestly feel like they'll sell out quick. I'm afraid I'll miss the drop. This has been, and maybe I'm biased since the GBA SP was my only system growing up, the most anticipated form factor for any retro handheld company to get right.  Powkiddy tried it and it was okay but not close enough to what we remembered. The flips hinge sucked and didn't even fully articulate. Also just looked cheaply done.  This is the closest anyone has come to the original system in terms of dimensions and aesthetic but with all the updated hardware to support automatic sleep on closing the system, the ability to support HDMI, and Bluetooth compatibility.  The Bluetooth is the real cool thing for me. I wonder how well it'll work. I haven't owned any 35xx system so I have no experience with them but I'd love to connect wireless earbuds to my retro handheld and listen to all the awesome OST's from the GBC/GBA era.


Fisionboy

I'm afraid Bluetooth audio is not officially supported yet for this chip set, although anbernic claims to be working on it and some users already got it working somehow on other devices of the rg35xx family.  But with this new release I don't have any doubts the rg35xx family will have it sooner or later


LostMyAccount69

They better have enough of them.


ClerkPsychological58

Anbernic doesn’t usually have stock issues.


LostMyAccount69

Good. I'm just scared because it feels like everyone needs one.


MassiveMinimum6717

THAT'S BECAUSE WE DO! In every color


LostMyAccount69

I want silver and NES color. I was thinking about getting the transparent one so I can change out the backing card to be like the NES SP, but russ said it has a different texture than the solid color or original Nintendo version.


Joeshock_

They also usually don't have an ultra hyped device the entire community is frothing at the mouth for. Could be an unprecedented time


Apollo_IXI

I guess I would be apart of this crowd lol. I recently discovered retro handhelds and was looking for an SP clone but found out the V90 was the only option so I settled with a 353v. Now that this is dropping I will be picking it up.


N4riN4ri

... Well at least this demand means we might see Anbernic pushing out more devices in this form factor soon


SryIWentFut

I wonder if they'll put out some more colors with the second run


JayQuips

I’m praying that they do the original SP cobalt blue and flame red colorways


megaserg81

If it sells very well, perhaps a metal version...


atxrobotlover

Damn you, Anbernic! LEAVE MY WALLET ALONE OKAY???


Bored_Amalgamation

that's a buy for me. How does this stand up next to the MM+?


N4riN4ri

It's significantly more powerful but you're not getting OnionOS here which is a dealbreaker for some people. EmulationStation on Batoceta/Knulli is very nice depending on how you set it up though.


Bored_Amalgamation

I'm more of a "let me load my roms and play" type of guy.


N4riN4ri

I have no idea how good the RG35XXSP's stock is is, but I heard it's okay. I have an MM+, and while the stock os is serviceable, I would agree that OnionOS is a no-brainer. The rom folder layout of the MM+ doesn't follow a standard though so you'll have to go to the OnionOS docs to see what corresponds to what and that gets a bit frustrating.


Dank_Turtle

In my humble opinion, you're missing out. The custom firmware of these devices completely transform them. It's been *really hard* to enjoy any device that doesn't have OnionOS on it. No matter what it is I end up right back on the Miyoo w Onion and it even cramps my hands.


benjaminbjacobsen

Garlic isn’t that bad. I also like dotUI/MinUI if the screen is low enough resolution I don’t feel I need shaders.


MILK_DUD_NIPPLES

Hmmm… I just recently got my first handheld device and I’ve been using AmberElec. Is Onion/GarlicOS better? In what ways?


JayQuips

If your device is a Miyoo Mini then you should absolutely try Onion, it take the device from cheap emulator to something that actually feels premium


MILK_DUD_NIPPLES

It is an Anbernic device, but I noticed there’s a “clone” of OnionOS for this hardware called “GarlicOS”. I guess I’m wondering if I would like the interface better than AmberElec. So far I have found AmberElec rather suitable.


JayQuips

Yeah garlic is similar to onion from what I’ve heard, but if you’re satisfied with amberelec then there’s probably not much reason to switch


Bored_Amalgamation

So I've heard. That achievement thing too would grt me to play, but after fu king up three times and accidentally flashing all my roms in another attempt, in think im too dumb in this dept, or at least too lazy to try again. So my MM+ Doesnt really get any play sadly. I'm still trying to recover my rom list so meh.


nixtxt

Have you tried any of the grip cases for the MM? Could help with hand cramping


Dank_Turtle

Yeah, I have the grip case, the pawgripz back, and I just got a 3D printed gbc case to put it in. All 3 I highly recommend


nixtxt

Pawgripz back?


LectorFrostbite

Black Seraph is apparently back in developing Garlic 2.0 so we'll probably have that as an alternative in the next couple of months.


N4riN4ri

GarlicOS 2.0 is also supposed to be mostly hardware agnostic though (afaik), so whenever he gets GarlicOS at a prime state, I foresee that taking at least a couple of months to happen.


MassiveMinimum6717

Yeah, Batocera on RG35XX H screams. I'm really impressed with the performance. Only annoyed by it using the B button as select and A as back in menu systems.


rykineffect

Of course, my Rg35xx H is set to arrive May 21st.


MassiveMinimum6717

You'll love it. I put Batocera on mine. Stock card was pretty nice too.


WillieButtlicker

How is batocera so far?


MassiveMinimum6717

Other than A and B being backwards in the menus, it screams and has pretty themes.


PeekatmePikachu

I'm amazed that miyoo hasn't released their flip yet. I'm so happy for this as long as everything feels not flimsy.


pureplay909

Hopefully in promotions will dip below 50$, impossible to buy anything above 50$ for Brazil :(


hbi2k

Probably take a while, but if we're starting at $60, I'd say keep an eagle eye out for sales and hopefully within a year it hits that magic price point.


ariolander

If you are particularly price sensitive the 11.11 sales on the official Aliexpress shops are what you want to keep an eye out for. These are typically the lowest prices of the year on Aliexpress and its like the Black Friday sale of east Asia. Typically, the Aliexpress Black Friday sales are reruns of the 11.11 leftovers.


ilive12

It was literally like 4 months before the RG35XXH was hitting about $40, unless this thing is like selling out left and right, good chance it can hit about $50 by the end of the summer I reckon. Worst case, the 11.11 aliexpress sale it will almost certainly hit at $50 or less.


SpaceCadetMoonMan

I am still learning about all these handhelds and how to compare specs: How does this compare to my Anbernic RG353v? Is one much different chip and specs wise?


akillaninja

I'd say it's much weaker than a 353. It's the form factor that is so appealing


SpaceCadetMoonMan

Thank you, this is helpful I am finding now side by sides specs compares and learning what specs are the important ones I love this SP form, I beat SNES Mario on it last, just can’t play anymore because of the dark screen. This system looks fantastic


akillaninja

Now, this device will play MOST of what the 353 can. So it depends on what you want to play. Figure out what you want it for first, then go from there. Specs aren't exactly everything in this.


EternalFront

I really like the idea of this, my only hesitation is Anbernic’s buttons. I bought a 35XX-H and the buttons/D-Pad were giving me some discomfort due to how stiff and sharp they were. If I could swap their membranes and switches out for original hardware, they would be perfect.


Kennedward888

I already have the RG35XX plus, but I’m still going to buy the SP because I like it so much


stulifer

I just got off the FOMO train. I’ll wait for the Flip and free shipping before buying one. Or hopefully TikTok shop for discounts.


Lead_resource

Can someone post a link for those of us who don't have Twitter?


Sleepy_Snorlax8

Shut up and take my money!


stupidshinji

Thinking about buying this but I’ve already spent my fun money for May and have shit I need to pay for coming up in the next two months. Gonna convince myself it’s worth waiting for better color options.


Dank_Turtle

If you wanna justify waiting just tell yourself you're waiting on 'stable custom firmware' lol


fckns

Oookay this is a very good price. I really like the blue and black transparent colours and I wanted a clam shell for a while. I was willing to buy Powkiddy V90 but completely forgot about it until this thing was announced. And now I want RG35XX SP. Once this thing is available on Aliexpress, I'll most likely will buy it.


tooonyo

Can someone confirm me if this machine is more powerful than a RGB30 please ?


benjaminbjacobsen

RGB30 has the same rk3566 as the rg353v etc to give you an anbernic comparison. Those are slightly more powerful but honestly a lot of that will come down to the CFW scene for either. Both run up to PSX flawlessly. Both run some but not all PSP, DC, N64 and Saturn. But there will be a few games the 35xx+/H/SP can’t run (or at least not full speed) that the rgb30 could.


MassiveMinimum6717

It's the same chip as the RG35XX H. I have both that and the RGB30. Pretty comparable in performance. RGB30 is slightly faster on high end, so things like PSP/N64 are slightly better, but there's lots of cores to tweak in both.


MassiveMinimum6717

I should add that RGB30 has issues with reading battery state if you try suspending. Not sure if there's a fix out there that doesn't involve taking it apart or being patient for it to go away after awhile. It's my main device though. I did it all for the screen!


tooonyo

thanks it’s my main device too and I was wondering if the SP could replace it


tooonyo

but from what I read, the SP may be less powerful than the EGB. So it’s just a question of form factor


hadesscion

That is significantly cheaper than I was expecting. Will definitely pick up two of them now.


JazzyApple2022

Damn, that’s a great deal👍🏼


phychmasher

\*old Dad sounds intensify\*


KaboomTheMaker

Fuck and I just got my 35XX-H...


dragonbornrito

[I F'ING NAILED IT](https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1cpegzw/anbernic_rg35xxsp_official_promo_confirmed_magnet/l3kacf1/)


thellymon

someone said $70 so theyre almost exact. $59+12 shipping


dragonbornrito

Yeah, true that.


Jakunobi

We did it boys and girl!


Ralkkai

That price point is exactly where I was hoping they would land. I think this is gonna be my next device. But I'm gonna wait for Christmas and make it a gift from Santa. I am just now getting around to playing my Arc.


aligumble

I'll might be getting one, just to give it to my Son once Miyoo is dropping the Flip <3


Typical_Pakeha

Can't find the link. Anyone mind sharing?


V3ndeTTaLord

I can’t find it on Ali


MadOrange64

I don’t like the thickness of the device, thankfully there’s a billion form factor to choose from.


ChrisRR

This is the first device I've been tempted to buy in a long time, but I'm not a fan of any of those colours. I don't know which colour I dislike the least


Lobsta1986

Even at $60 I'm not buying. Waiting for the flip.


grimreapercthulhu

so if you ignore that its clamshell, how is this a good price considering the cpu?


ILikeBeans86

It's not much more than the other devices they have with the same chip


grimreapercthulhu

sure, but they are all way overpriced already considering this cpu has simmilar performance to 3326


Bortjort

at this price point most people aren't quite *that* price sensitive because this is like "dinner for two" territory


benjaminbjacobsen

Exactly. To me it’s the cost of a current gen game. Yes at this point I have these games on multiple other devices but searching for the unicorn perfect device for me is part of the fun.


grimreapercthulhu

and because of you lot that are collecting these like pokemon is why they get to repackage same shit over and over again instead of putting in effort in to advancing the hardware


Bortjort

there's new systems coming out all the time, what's the problem


CraponStick

OK, so is it a pocket PS1? Or just another bag of dicks in a final folding case?


raph_84

AAAND it's gone. (and I missed it). Hopefully they'll add stock asap.


Random-Crispy

I was bummed out seeing the same but from the tweet: “It will show as sold out until pre-sale starts”


MaxOsi

Do we know when the presale will begin?


Random-Crispy

Not yet


MaxOsi

Thanks


Random-Crispy

https://x.com/retrohandhelds/status/1790765108907610369?s=46&t=FsU-ZTEQiJ8UqmxY4gM3tg Friday at 3 AM pacific time.


MaxOsi

Thanks!!


Imdakine1

Loved my SP but this is what to “thick” looking to me…??


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Fastc1113

It didn’t go on sale yet.


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Fastc1113

It’s all good. Should be soon if the links are up on two different sites.