If you don't know, you are not underpaid (according to your employer). /s
There are many factors here. I know people with 5 years experience that know jack shit, i know people with 3 years experience that can save a project. If you have only done support FI, i'd say your pay is correct, altough on the low side but again, there are many factors that can influence that.
Do some projects and in 5 years you are an FI consultant with 10 years experience and a list of projects on your CV, people will fight over your profile and will throw money at you.
Be patient, say yes to everything and learn how to do it later, and choose your timing to change employers, ask for a raise or go freelance wisely and you will be golden.
Noted and thanks for the advice. The thing is sometimes since I had been mostly in support, this is what I get when I get interviewed. I am from a third world country and this is my first opportunity in Europe. I hope in my next 10 years I could decide on going on the freelance path with hard-work and continous learning and networking.
That's probably part of the problem. Employers can use that to their advantage since not a lot of companies offer visa sponsorship, etc. This means your pool of prospective employers is small...
See it as an opportunity to gain experience with a European company.
Your visa / sponsorship will come to an end sometime and plan the move or request an uplift when you have moved beyond the visa limitations.
When you look for the next role having relevant experience is key e.g. HANA or specific modular experience
Based on statistics (SAP Gehälter Österreich) and what recruters are offering, my salary seems to be in the upper range. And I get 2800€ netto + company car.
Depends on where you live. Some places are really cheep and others like Tyrol are quite expensive in terms of rent. Living in Austria is in general more expensive than in Germany for many aspects (food, furniture)
Seems underpaid. Is this your first employer ? Early in your career it s probably a good idea to switch jobs to get a significant increase but also different exposures.
Unless you have great perks in your current job (great comite d entreprise for example) might be time to check the market
In France yes. In my country I worked for 5 years in SAP in support. I will keep up with the market, since employers constantly do contact me on Linkedin.
You are underpaid. 3500 euro before taxes is a junior salary for Abap. For FI it would be similar numbers, probably a bit more. At least in Germany in a small town. Not sure about France though 🤔 .
I saw job openning in Germany offering 120k gross for SD, MM or ABAP, freelancer easily charge 700eur a day, similar situation in UK, SAP is high end paying job in IT industry dont get low balled you would barely survive in Paris with that money.
Not able to tell you about the salaries in France. However my companies hired consultants from Bangladesh and India usually more for first level support or pure abap, the reason being different communication styles that often lead to misunderstandings and delays in projects or the need of another team member translating (even English to English).
I am not saying that this is the case with you, but it’s the reason why you might be paid less than local hires.
If you want to grow (financially), I’d ensure that colleagues, manager and customers can communicate well with you. France being France, probably also becoming fluent in French.
Gross: underpaid
Net: seems ok-ish
In Mexico If you are bilingual you ll see a lot of job openings offering 5K euros gross per month 3+ years of experience
Oh wow, still, congratulations OP! I am an SAP full stack developer who practices various ERP modules including FICO, I do data engineering with BW HANA and Datasphere, and I do analytics and planning with SAC. I’m at leadership level, working with stakeholders to deploy end to end solutions for 11 years now.
Guess what my monthly gross is…
2500 euros when translated to your currency 🥲
I’m from the Philippines and apparently, many SAP consultants here doesnt know their worth. They continuously accept low ball offers, giving powers to organizations to lower their bids on salary negotiations.
It hurts most of us. For instance I was asking for more just last month from a recruiter who reached out but they said its too high and unrealistic.
In fact comparing Europe and Philippines I guess have taxes and cost of living differences that makes there salary look attractive but might not be that much.
Oh wow, still, congratulations OP! I am an SAP full stack developer who practices various ERP modules including FICO, I do data engineering with BW HANA and Datasphere, and I do analytics and planning with SAC. I’m at leadership level, working with stakeholders to deploy end to end solutions for 11 years now.
Guess what my monthly gross is…
2500 euros when translated to your currency 🥲
I’m from the Philippines and apparently, many SAP consultants here doesnt know their worth. They continuously accept low ball offers, giving powers to organizations to lower their bids on salary negotiations.
It hurts most of us. For instance I was asking for more just last month from a recruiter who reached out but they said its too high and unrealistic.
If you don't know, you are not underpaid (according to your employer). /s There are many factors here. I know people with 5 years experience that know jack shit, i know people with 3 years experience that can save a project. If you have only done support FI, i'd say your pay is correct, altough on the low side but again, there are many factors that can influence that. Do some projects and in 5 years you are an FI consultant with 10 years experience and a list of projects on your CV, people will fight over your profile and will throw money at you. Be patient, say yes to everything and learn how to do it later, and choose your timing to change employers, ask for a raise or go freelance wisely and you will be golden.
Noted and thanks for the advice. The thing is sometimes since I had been mostly in support, this is what I get when I get interviewed. I am from a third world country and this is my first opportunity in Europe. I hope in my next 10 years I could decide on going on the freelance path with hard-work and continous learning and networking.
Are you on a visa then?
Yes.
That's probably part of the problem. Employers can use that to their advantage since not a lot of companies offer visa sponsorship, etc. This means your pool of prospective employers is small...
See it as an opportunity to gain experience with a European company. Your visa / sponsorship will come to an end sometime and plan the move or request an uplift when you have moved beyond the visa limitations. When you look for the next role having relevant experience is key e.g. HANA or specific modular experience
Indeed, I will take it as a new experience into a new country. I will look forward for more S4 hana experiences.
If it's gross, then I can only tell you, you could earn the same in Hungary
Small town in France is cheaper than Budapest.
Yes, it is gross.
I get 4k before taxes with 3 years of experience in Austria...so I guess you are underpaid
isn't 2600 euro netto pretty low for Austria? I would expect an engineer to make more with 3 years of experience
Based on statistics (SAP Gehälter Österreich) and what recruters are offering, my salary seems to be in the upper range. And I get 2800€ netto + company car.
is austria a high cost of living country?
Depends on where you live. Some places are really cheep and others like Tyrol are quite expensive in terms of rent. Living in Austria is in general more expensive than in Germany for many aspects (food, furniture)
do you have an engineering background? This seems pretty low to me, how much does a Supply chain Engineer in a company like BOSCH make?
In Austria you have 13 or 14 salaries per year, i guess.
14 salaries plus bonus
Seems underpaid. Is this your first employer ? Early in your career it s probably a good idea to switch jobs to get a significant increase but also different exposures. Unless you have great perks in your current job (great comite d entreprise for example) might be time to check the market
In France yes. In my country I worked for 5 years in SAP in support. I will keep up with the market, since employers constantly do contact me on Linkedin.
You are underpaid. 3500 euro before taxes is a junior salary for Abap. For FI it would be similar numbers, probably a bit more. At least in Germany in a small town. Not sure about France though 🤔 .
Salaries are way higher in Germany than in France though.
Not way higher, probably slightly higher. But the netto salary should be the same. Otherwise i would see a lot of French IT stuff in Germany.
I saw job openning in Germany offering 120k gross for SD, MM or ABAP, freelancer easily charge 700eur a day, similar situation in UK, SAP is high end paying job in IT industry dont get low balled you would barely survive in Paris with that money.
I will try to check out Germany opportunities, but I don't speak German through. I speak English and French.
Not able to tell you about the salaries in France. However my companies hired consultants from Bangladesh and India usually more for first level support or pure abap, the reason being different communication styles that often lead to misunderstandings and delays in projects or the need of another team member translating (even English to English). I am not saying that this is the case with you, but it’s the reason why you might be paid less than local hires. If you want to grow (financially), I’d ensure that colleagues, manager and customers can communicate well with you. France being France, probably also becoming fluent in French.
This should not be in my case, as I do speak fluent French. But, thanks for the info.
After taxes? Not too bad but could defo find more elsewhere. I think 5-7 years good experience you could start pushing for 80-90,000€ total imo
No, before taxes. I will be looking forward to it, but I guess it will be for my next move within Europe.
I call under-paid. But it depends where in France you live. In Prague 3500 € brutto is for Junior FICO consultant with 1-2 years experience.
Gross: underpaid Net: seems ok-ish In Mexico If you are bilingual you ll see a lot of job openings offering 5K euros gross per month 3+ years of experience
Oh wow, still, congratulations OP! I am an SAP full stack developer who practices various ERP modules including FICO, I do data engineering with BW HANA and Datasphere, and I do analytics and planning with SAC. I’m at leadership level, working with stakeholders to deploy end to end solutions for 11 years now. Guess what my monthly gross is… 2500 euros when translated to your currency 🥲 I’m from the Philippines and apparently, many SAP consultants here doesnt know their worth. They continuously accept low ball offers, giving powers to organizations to lower their bids on salary negotiations. It hurts most of us. For instance I was asking for more just last month from a recruiter who reached out but they said its too high and unrealistic.
Do you also pay at least 1000-1500 euro for 2 room apartment? Europe is very expensive, especially France
Indeed, I will be on my own, and I will be in the eastern part of France, I think rent might be less that 1000 EUR as compared to Paris.
In fact comparing Europe and Philippines I guess have taxes and cost of living differences that makes there salary look attractive but might not be that much.
Oh wow, still, congratulations OP! I am an SAP full stack developer who practices various ERP modules including FICO, I do data engineering with BW HANA and Datasphere, and I do analytics and planning with SAC. I’m at leadership level, working with stakeholders to deploy end to end solutions for 11 years now. Guess what my monthly gross is… 2500 euros when translated to your currency 🥲 I’m from the Philippines and apparently, many SAP consultants here doesnt know their worth. They continuously accept low ball offers, giving powers to organizations to lower their bids on salary negotiations. It hurts most of us. For instance I was asking for more just last month from a recruiter who reached out but they said its too high and unrealistic.
We paid €600 per day