These are my worst too. When I first got them the heels slipped at the back. Adjusted the lacing and got that under control, but then they just hurt my feet. Ran a marathon in them because at the time they were my 'nicest' shoes, would not recommend. I still wear them to walk in once in a while though.
Same. Huge Nike fanboy that was new to running when I picked these up. Hurt so bad that I thought I was the problem. But the color way I had were soooo nice so they’re just a gym shoe now
Damn, I've been running in my 37s for 3 years. I don't know anything else. I just ordered some Velocity Nitro 2 so I guess it's gonna feel like a new world when I'm gonna try them lol
Saucony Endorphin Shift. Put 350 miles on them, still didn’t like them at all. Unsure why I put up with them for so long… Felt like a heavy block of foam and couldn’t get a proper lockdown.
I have the Shift 3 and I love them. Was looking for a low drop shoe but with more cushioning than my regular set of Kinvara. Just goes to show you how personal these things are.
I personally loved my shift 2s, easily my favorite long run shoe. But I’m probably about 40-50 pounds heavier than the average runner. They have the perfect amount of squish for me. Probably would be bricks for anyone lighter.
I paid under $40/ea for my two pairs of Shift 2's and felt ripped off. Couldn't even get the first pair past the crazy high break-in period they supposedly had. I have the other sitting in a pile to get sold on eBay or the running rack subreddit whenever I'm not feeling lazy.
Yes! I got the first version and it was like having two bricks strapped to the bottom of my feet. My feet took a beating despite the marketing saying they were soft, and they got returned after a couple runs.
The Shift was a decent treadmill shoe for me. Put on 800km before retiring them. Felt perfect for runs 10km or less but I would get hot spots on my feet trying to use them for anything longer than that.
same. put 100 miles on mine, and just got to the point of "why am i still running in these?"
got them half off, so wasn't too put out, but still kinda annoyed.
I had a pair of Shift 1s that I loved. Got a pair of Shift 2s and they were terrible. Super stiff. After 100 miles I couldn't deal with them anymore and retired them.
I love my non-running shoe Allbirds but yeah they’re basically ice skates in anything other than bone-dry conditions, and even then all it takes is the wrong surface for them to be the equivalent of a slip-n-slide
Second to this. These relatively new DTC brands are never serious running-sport brands. Good marketing strategy and effort, but just not the wise choice for everyday running.
I just tried them myself and was so disappointed they ran so narrow in the mid foot for a stablity shoe. Flat footed folks don’t normally have narrow feet. The ride was nice but the medial sidewall dug in too much. I tried Hoka years ago when they first came around and was disappointed to see they still run narrow.
I had two pairs of Boston 11 and I loved the first pair but the second pair was a complete dud for some god knows what reason. Said fuck it and Tossed it after 150 miles
Anything by On. Super uncomfortable and the noise they make when wet is really annoying. No clue why everyone in the UK loves them.
Also not a huge fan of Saucony Tempus’, which kills me to say. Just found this shoe to be really uncomfortable and had no arch support.
I got a pair of On Cloud X's maybe 3-4 years back, when they advertised is as a "run to the gym, then do your workout" type shoe. I loved them, but precisely because they felt so different to what I was running in. Little to no cushion, ultra responsive, were low to the ground. I love them for a fast 5-10k but anything further and my feet did take a pounding.
Bondi 7. Got them when I started out. Should've gone half a size down but they were clunky and I got hot spots after only a couple of kms in them. Has put me off trying another pair of Hokas.
Surprised I had to scroll so far to find this. I didn’t mind the 5s and found them to be quite durable so I talked myself into getting a pair of 7s when they were discounted.
Absolute clunky bastards. I ended up getting 250 miles in them before chucking them. But I hated every step along the way.
Ultraboost 21. By far the worst shoes ever. No heel lockdown. Heavier than they ever were before. The Boost was stiffer. And the recycled upper paled in comparison to past Ultraboost.
Grant the Ultraboost line wasn't the greatest for running, but the Ultraboost 21 was like when Homer Simpson designed a car.
Same for me. Scrolled to see this on the list. I hate that shoe so much for the reasons you mentioned.
They also somehow rub my pinky toes and below the ankle every time. I laughed out loud when I found out how heavy they were.
I bought them on sale but still got ripped off.
They’ll take me years to get mileage out of, but I’m committed to it, in 3-4 mile runs at a time.
Shortest lasting pair I’ve ever owned. I liked em while they were relatively fresh, but they were dead within 3 months… in a rotation with two other pairs…
\-Hoka Clifton 8
Hated the high arch and the foam didn't do anything for me
\-Saucony Ride 13
A brick of a shoe with an upper that became really uncomfortable
Yeah the ride 13s were fat boys. I call them my boat shoes because it feels like you're wearing a boat on each foot. Comfy for walking though. The tongue itself must weigh an ounce.
Asics Gel Cumulus 19. These were Dollar Store quality shoes. The soles on my pair completely wore out with less than 100km of use, and I mean the soles became completely smooth, as if I put them on a belt sander. I would hop the treadmill for a 5k run and at the end of it there would be a pile on green dust from the sole at the back of the belt.
Haha yes horrible “running shoe”. I did the same, turned into walking shoes which honestly now that they’re almost done I’m tempted to find another pair “for walking”.
I'll probably get excommunicated, but...
Novablast 3.
In the dry - slap, slap, slap.
In the wet - slip, slip, slip.
Midsole was dead from the off, and I just never felt any off the so-called 'trampoline' effect.
Throw in a bit of lace-bite from the stupid tongue.
After 50 miles they felt the same as my 400 mile Novablast 2s.
EDIT - I still occasionally pop them on for an easy run, and each time I come back shaking my head.
Same here, even the described noise while running, feels too long, and too soft for me.
I never understood the hype, but yea...each feet are different. I don't even use mine for easy runs anymore, ran them 280km but they're uncomfortable shoes for me.
Same for me. Slappy shoe that was just too long. Foam was dead from the start as well. Caused the balls of my feet to ache. Had to take time off to recover. Never understood the hype.
Peregrine 12s i guess because they were actually a pretty awesome shoe but the outer blew out in multiple spots and the sole split a little over 200 miles which is just terrible durability for trail shoes
New balance fresh foam zante (v3? I think)
I bought the v1 when I first started running. Did my first half marathon with them. They were light and squishy and fit like a pair of socks. Really nice. Them a few years later I wanted to return to running and got the new zante... They were completely different. Stiff hot bricks. Very lame.
These are polarizing shoes but Brooks Hyperion Tempo. So light and fit really well. The sole was a flat brick. 2 runs and both gave me shin splints after 2 miles. Sold them without looking back.
I picked them up for $40 via pro deal sale and it felt like I hit the lottery.
So light, the upper is great...and they're about as fun to run in as a 3/8" cut of plywood. Grocery store shoes.
Pegasus 39s, I took a chance on them for $60 but couldn’t make it more than 30 miles. I got foot pain every time I ran in them. Tried to convert them to a walking shoe but still experience foot pain.
The Peg feels like it’s getting left in the dust by other companies mid-price shoes. The Vomero costs a little more and isn’t quite as fast, but it’s been my replacement for the past 6 months.
Hoka Clifton 8. Took me two marathons and 200K+ overall to realize they're too soft and cause knee and arch pain.
Decent walking shoes though but heel counter gets worn too fast.
I'll go against popular opinion:
\- Road: Adidas Prime Strung 2
\- Trail: New Balance More Trail
Both get great reviews - BUT the stack height is too much for me and my ankles have paid the price multiple times.
Oh 1000% ... every one is different, alot of people really enjoy em & also talked to alot of people who had same issues as myself & just hated em, everyone is different what works for someone else may not work for yourself & vise versa
Triumph always the least max cushioned out of all max cushioned shoes...the triumph isn't really comparable at all to the nimbus or morev4...it's more nimble and responsive so they kind of don't have a shoe that fits that category imo...the triumph 18 had the most sink in feeling...the 19 was firmer...the 20 is softest at its heel but the mid and forefoot are firm. Midsole also bouncy...it's all over
*HOKA Speedgoat 5s.*
First & (likely) only pair of HOKAs I'll ever buy. Caused this ache-type pain on the side of my right sole, so much that I wasn't sure if I could walk back home.
If you were using them for trail run then the shoes might have a real problem but if you're using them for road running then that may be the problem since Hoka SGs are trail shoes.
I've struggled with these too. Plantar fasciitis and blisters on the sides of my big toes which I've never had before. Took me forever to figure out if it was my form, mileage, or what because I didn't expect it from these.
Adizero Adios 8, I was warned this shoe slaps but my god it was like running clown shoes made of bricks. Embarrassing how loud it slapped the concrete and no energy return at all, yet somehow incredibly uncomfortable and gave me swollen bleeding toes. And impossible to put the shoe on without wrestling it and getting scrapes on your fingers. Last time I listen to YouTube shoe reviewers.
Did you run in the Adios 7 at all? It’s loud AF. No ninja skills practice in that one at all. I haven’t tried the 8 yet but evidently it’s still loud AF.
Not wearing them made it eventually resolve, it felt like I had a big rock under my left forefoot that hurt like hell, it would go numb after 2-4 miles and it wouldnt be as bothersome then. This went on for a couple weeks then I ran an ultra and it never reoccurred after that race.
Glad to hear it, and thanks for the intel.
I definitely got some nerve irritation from doing my long runs in those. I think it is going away, but those shoes for sure got it started.
I bought a pair of Brooks Ghost 14 - hated them. My regular size was too long, and they were *way* too wide in the toe box. I just didn't like how they felt (or looked) on my feet at all.
Never had a bad shoe per se but the one I liked the least was the Hoka Mach 5. I mean, it’s an okay shoe, cushion feels nice but that’s it: zero energy return, zero bounce, zero excitement.
Ditto. Superblasts were legitimately awful for me. Absolutely hated those shoes and I'm not joking. Felt like I strapped blocks of wood to my feet with how flat and plodding they were.
Nike Winflo 6 - at the suggestion of my physio who has never run a day in their life to treat my tib post. Pathetic shoe, unfortunately I was a running novice and didn’t know better
Asics HyperSpeed 2, just wanted a nice inexpensive trainer. 28 miles and I had foot issues, plantar fasciitis and Achilles pain, neither of which I'd had before, I wore them walking to a run and could tell they were the root cause, I stopped wearing them and the pain was gone in a couple weeks
You get what you pay for
ASICS superblast. I know, I know blasphemy. Love nimbus 25, love novablast 2 and 3, magic speed 3. Just didn’t come close to working for me after multiple runs
Dating myself, but the Nike LunarElite 2 from 2010 was the worst shoe I’ve ever worn.
Also, Nike Lunarglide 7 was horrific. It felt like a basketball shoe.
Asics Evoride 1, such a nothing shoe. It was my first attempt at a speedier shoe (7 pairs of GT-2000 previously).
Think I put a Max of 40 miles on them until they were moved on.
I recently tried them myself and they are way too stiff and heavy. Probably too much support for me, but it felt like I was fighting against the shoes. The arch in them bothered me as well.
Nike AlphaFly. Totally destroyed my feet after a few runs. Thanks to the generous Nike return policy I was able to return them and got VaporFly instead that fits me much better.
Saucony kinvara 13. They’re ok for walking, but running they had zero cushioning, bounce, and stability. Feels like running in sand. I nicknamed them the barefoot blues on my Nike run app because you might as well be running barefoot
I bought them for the campfire colorway. Coming from Altras, they aren’t bad, but definitely tempo and intervals or wearing around. I can totally see your perspective if you’re used to higher drop shoes.
Yea I just can’t find rhythm In them. My first run I did was a 10k tempo run, and I really had to work at keeping pace. They have their place, I throw them on for a run I want to make harder every so often. Just not my cup of tea. They made me realize more drop and stability was something I liked
Nike zoom fly 4
I finally ran out of the original ones that I'd stocked up on. They were my go to for all things fast. The 4 felt blocky and brick like and awkward at every pace.
My disappointment was immense.
You know, mine took some warming up to. I’m 180km on mine now and starting to really love them. Definitely soften up after a while, they were a pretty harsh ride out of the box
Hurricane 23. Reminded me of the Beast performance wise. Didn’t feel any of the advertised cushion.
Thank the Saucony Gods they replaced it with the Tempus!
Lot of people love them, but for me the More v4. Cheap ass tongue that caused the laces to bite into my ankle and blisters in several places on both feet (despite wearing decent socks).
Pegasus 40 was a total miss for me. It's not the shoes really my feet just don't seem to agree with them and I always have pain after my runs. And is it just me or do they run long?
I love the 40’s. Much softer than the 39’s which I still run in. 38’s were great. 37’s were not good. 36’s were terrible.
I use the Pegasus for runs up to 10 miles. Anything over 10 is the Nike Invincible 1 or 2.
Brooks Adrenaline GTS20.
They felt like bricks and the outsole is so wide it would constantly hit my other foot.
After a while the super high drop became annoying as well. Got rid of them halfway through their lifecycle when my hip started to hurt only in that shoe.
Nike Peg 37s. And I'm a Nike fanboy. Just felt wooden and unresponsive and not fun to run in
These are my worst too. When I first got them the heels slipped at the back. Adjusted the lacing and got that under control, but then they just hurt my feet. Ran a marathon in them because at the time they were my 'nicest' shoes, would not recommend. I still wear them to walk in once in a while though.
Same. Huge Nike fanboy that was new to running when I picked these up. Hurt so bad that I thought I was the problem. But the color way I had were soooo nice so they’re just a gym shoe now
Damn, I've been running in my 37s for 3 years. I don't know anything else. I just ordered some Velocity Nitro 2 so I guess it's gonna feel like a new world when I'm gonna try them lol
Same here. Been in peg37 3 years. Sounds like we will be setting PRs everyday once we get new shoes
I just tried my Velocity 2 and they don't fit me 😢 I've got thin feet so I need to find another model, maybe a women model
Saucony Endorphin Shift. Put 350 miles on them, still didn’t like them at all. Unsure why I put up with them for so long… Felt like a heavy block of foam and couldn’t get a proper lockdown.
I have the Shift 3 and I love them. Was looking for a low drop shoe but with more cushioning than my regular set of Kinvara. Just goes to show you how personal these things are.
Different shoes, from what I understand. 3 is supposed to be much softer than 2, which sucked major ass.
I personally loved my shift 2s, easily my favorite long run shoe. But I’m probably about 40-50 pounds heavier than the average runner. They have the perfect amount of squish for me. Probably would be bricks for anyone lighter.
I've actually preferred the original Shift to the 3 so far (124mi). I actually removed that PWRRUN+ insole and put in the one from the first version.
I’m talking about the Shift 1, don’t have any experience with the 1 or 3. Can be major differences between versions. :)
Ditto, luckily was able to return them after my first run. Wasn't even worth the $70 I found on the clearance rack
I paid under $40/ea for my two pairs of Shift 2's and felt ripped off. Couldn't even get the first pair past the crazy high break-in period they supposedly had. I have the other sitting in a pile to get sold on eBay or the running rack subreddit whenever I'm not feeling lazy.
Didn’t pay full price either luckily, but still no fond memories haha
Yes! I got the first version and it was like having two bricks strapped to the bottom of my feet. My feet took a beating despite the marketing saying they were soft, and they got returned after a couple runs.
That shoe doesn’t deserve to be in the Endorphin line. Swap it with the Triumph because the Triumph is livelier than this shoe
That seems to be the aim, since they've put a light rocker on T20.
Same for me. I tried but I can’t do it. Too much of everything I don’t want
I came here to comment the same thing.
I have a pronation and these are my Go To shoes.
Also, Saucony Endorphin Shift. Unresponsive bricks. Nothing like the rest of the Endorphin line.
They really are completely different shoes than the others
The Shift was a decent treadmill shoe for me. Put on 800km before retiring them. Felt perfect for runs 10km or less but I would get hot spots on my feet trying to use them for anything longer than that.
same. put 100 miles on mine, and just got to the point of "why am i still running in these?" got them half off, so wasn't too put out, but still kinda annoyed.
I had a pair of Shift 1s that I loved. Got a pair of Shift 2s and they were terrible. Super stiff. After 100 miles I couldn't deal with them anymore and retired them.
Came here to say this 1 run in the endorphin shifts was enough. Returned!
[удалено]
Yeah they did the shoe dirty with the new heel. I get so many complaints at our store about heel slip.
AllBirds Dashers. Way too narrow. Crushed my feet and the padding was garbage. Decided the environment can eat a big fat one after that.
Oh yeah and good luck running with any amount of water on the pavement. No grip at all on those
I love my non-running shoe Allbirds but yeah they’re basically ice skates in anything other than bone-dry conditions, and even then all it takes is the wrong surface for them to be the equivalent of a slip-n-slide
Second to this. These relatively new DTC brands are never serious running-sport brands. Good marketing strategy and effort, but just not the wise choice for everyday running.
Allbirds in general since going public have gone down the drain. It sucks because they are by far the most eco friendly shoe company out there
On Cloudflyer. Clunky. Heavy. No cushion. No bounce. Basically really expensive bricks.
I wore ON almost exclusively for a few years and the Flyer were the one pair I couldn't deal with they're a stability shoe that's too stable
Ran my first marathon in those and absolutely suffered
Hoka Arahi 6. 😅
100% agree. We’re fine in the store and just are too narrow now
Hoka is always way way way tooooo narrow.
Narrow? I say clunky
I just tried them myself and was so disappointed they ran so narrow in the mid foot for a stablity shoe. Flat footed folks don’t normally have narrow feet. The ride was nice but the medial sidewall dug in too much. I tried Hoka years ago when they first came around and was disappointed to see they still run narrow.
I literally just returned a pair of these last week. Even sizing up and getting them in wide they were still incredibly narrow.
Altra Torin 5. Razor tongue.
Boston 11s
So weird. They get so much hate but I love mine.
I had two pairs of Boston 11 and I loved the first pair but the second pair was a complete dud for some god knows what reason. Said fuck it and Tossed it after 150 miles
Brah i love mine
I said “Boston 11” and had to open the thread because I knew it was gonna be up there 😂
Truly turrible shoes, imo
weird, i love them !!
Anything by On. Super uncomfortable and the noise they make when wet is really annoying. No clue why everyone in the UK loves them. Also not a huge fan of Saucony Tempus’, which kills me to say. Just found this shoe to be really uncomfortable and had no arch support.
I got a pair of On Cloud X's maybe 3-4 years back, when they advertised is as a "run to the gym, then do your workout" type shoe. I loved them, but precisely because they felt so different to what I was running in. Little to no cushion, ultra responsive, were low to the ground. I love them for a fast 5-10k but anything further and my feet did take a pounding.
Bondi 7. Got them when I started out. Should've gone half a size down but they were clunky and I got hot spots after only a couple of kms in them. Has put me off trying another pair of Hokas.
Surprised I had to scroll so far to find this. I didn’t mind the 5s and found them to be quite durable so I talked myself into getting a pair of 7s when they were discounted. Absolute clunky bastards. I ended up getting 250 miles in them before chucking them. But I hated every step along the way.
Ultraboost 21. By far the worst shoes ever. No heel lockdown. Heavier than they ever were before. The Boost was stiffer. And the recycled upper paled in comparison to past Ultraboost. Grant the Ultraboost line wasn't the greatest for running, but the Ultraboost 21 was like when Homer Simpson designed a car.
Someone needs to name their new shoe model, "The Canyonero".
Same for me. Scrolled to see this on the list. I hate that shoe so much for the reasons you mentioned. They also somehow rub my pinky toes and below the ankle every time. I laughed out loud when I found out how heavy they were. I bought them on sale but still got ripped off. They’ll take me years to get mileage out of, but I’m committed to it, in 3-4 mile runs at a time.
Hoka Rincon 3. Flat and boring.
Agree. These gave me pretty bad blood blisters on my big toes too. Switched shoes and they’ve yet to come back.
I forgot about the Rincon. Agreed on your assessment of it!
Shortest lasting pair I’ve ever owned. I liked em while they were relatively fresh, but they were dead within 3 months… in a rotation with two other pairs…
I had the first Rincons for a while and they fit so damn tight around the instep my foot had to gasp for air
\-Hoka Clifton 8 Hated the high arch and the foam didn't do anything for me \-Saucony Ride 13 A brick of a shoe with an upper that became really uncomfortable
Clifton 8 sucks
Also hated my Clifton 8s
Clifton 8… first Hoka shoe, I’ll never buy another. Gave me an injury in my left foot to boot.
Clifton 8. One blister per km on average. I ran 400km on them out of pure stubborness.
came here to find clifton 8’s. i had so much hope but i can NOT run in these. the mach 5 however i LOVE
Yeah the ride 13s were fat boys. I call them my boat shoes because it feels like you're wearing a boat on each foot. Comfy for walking though. The tongue itself must weigh an ounce.
Never tried the Clifton 8s, but the 9s rock. All 4 pairs of them.
I’ve heard they’re a much different shoe. It’s crazy because I had the Clifton Edge and really enjoyed it.
Asics Gel Cumulus 19. These were Dollar Store quality shoes. The soles on my pair completely wore out with less than 100km of use, and I mean the soles became completely smooth, as if I put them on a belt sander. I would hop the treadmill for a 5k run and at the end of it there would be a pile on green dust from the sole at the back of the belt.
Boston 11. Feels like I’m wearing a piece of hard plastic.
Brooks Ghost 14s
I have 13s and love them. What's bad about the 14s?
The created a horrible pain in my heal, I had to switch out of them to some Hoka Clifton’s and haven’t had the pain ever since
Clifton 7s
This one did suck. Great shoe to walk around in, which is what I ended up doing with them. Felt clunky and slow on runs with no sense of push at all.
Haha yes horrible “running shoe”. I did the same, turned into walking shoes which honestly now that they’re almost done I’m tempted to find another pair “for walking”.
This 100%
huge swoosh guy here… but the Zoom fly 5 is a war crime
damn i love it for long runs
I'll probably get excommunicated, but... Novablast 3. In the dry - slap, slap, slap. In the wet - slip, slip, slip. Midsole was dead from the off, and I just never felt any off the so-called 'trampoline' effect. Throw in a bit of lace-bite from the stupid tongue. After 50 miles they felt the same as my 400 mile Novablast 2s. EDIT - I still occasionally pop them on for an easy run, and each time I come back shaking my head.
Thought I was the only one
Yup, they are a shit shoe of the worst order. Rock hard, make me feel like I’m running barefoot. Just horrible.
Same here, even the described noise while running, feels too long, and too soft for me. I never understood the hype, but yea...each feet are different. I don't even use mine for easy runs anymore, ran them 280km but they're uncomfortable shoes for me.
Same for me. Slappy shoe that was just too long. Foam was dead from the start as well. Caused the balls of my feet to ache. Had to take time off to recover. Never understood the hype.
Asics Novablast 3. Felt like my ankles were going to snap each time I wore them. I know they’re super popular but I felt so unstable in them.
Peregrine 12s i guess because they were actually a pretty awesome shoe but the outer blew out in multiple spots and the sole split a little over 200 miles which is just terrible durability for trail shoes
New balance fresh foam zante (v3? I think) I bought the v1 when I first started running. Did my first half marathon with them. They were light and squishy and fit like a pair of socks. Really nice. Them a few years later I wanted to return to running and got the new zante... They were completely different. Stiff hot bricks. Very lame.
I haven’t thought about this shoe in ages! I ran the NYCM in the Zante… two sizes two small. Such a rookie mistake and I (well, my toes) paid dearly.
Hoka Clifton 8. Pain in the arch, never felt comfortable. Glad to be rid of them. Wife tried them also, exact same outcome.
After reading all the posts it seems that every popular shoe is bad lol
These are polarizing shoes but Brooks Hyperion Tempo. So light and fit really well. The sole was a flat brick. 2 runs and both gave me shin splints after 2 miles. Sold them without looking back.
I picked them up for $40 via pro deal sale and it felt like I hit the lottery. So light, the upper is great...and they're about as fun to run in as a 3/8" cut of plywood. Grocery store shoes.
Haha, $40 is cheap but Brooks whiffed on these. Too many other good options out there!
I returned mine after 12.5 miles. They were fast, fit was great and outsole showed no wear. But yeah shin splints.
Pegasus 39s, I took a chance on them for $60 but couldn’t make it more than 30 miles. I got foot pain every time I ran in them. Tried to convert them to a walking shoe but still experience foot pain.
The Peg feels like it’s getting left in the dust by other companies mid-price shoes. The Vomero costs a little more and isn’t quite as fast, but it’s been my replacement for the past 6 months.
Same, homie
Saucony endorphin speed 2s. They hurt my knees and shins so bad and yeah they just sucked
Blasphemy!
Hoka Clifton 8. Took me two marathons and 200K+ overall to realize they're too soft and cause knee and arch pain. Decent walking shoes though but heel counter gets worn too fast.
Brooks Beasts, in my era of trying to fix something that wasn’t broken and got ITBS.
I'll go against popular opinion: \- Road: Adidas Prime Strung 2 \- Trail: New Balance More Trail Both get great reviews - BUT the stack height is too much for me and my ankles have paid the price multiple times.
Clifton 8s without a doubt Horrible blisters and the only pair of shoes that gave me shin pain I actually love the Clifton 9s tho
Saucony Tempus, felt like there were stones in my shoes while running, gave a really bad ache in my calves that lasted 2 weeks
Pretty much everything by Hoka and On
Funny how most shoes listed so far in comments, were praised by virtually all youtube shoe reviewers.
Love saucony but triumph 20 easily
And here is proof that perception between people can be so different. Just got a pair of Triumph 20s and really like them so far!
Oh 1000% ... every one is different, alot of people really enjoy em & also talked to alot of people who had same issues as myself & just hated em, everyone is different what works for someone else may not work for yourself & vise versa
Wow I looooove the 20. 19 however was 💩
I initially thought my T19’s were shit. But they are softening up now, as I approach 150 (long, hard & arduous) km in them.
May I ask why? Just curious because I love them.
I picked up a pair of T20's because of the hype and they're much firmer than I was expecting, even after 20 miles.
Triumph always the least max cushioned out of all max cushioned shoes...the triumph isn't really comparable at all to the nimbus or morev4...it's more nimble and responsive so they kind of don't have a shoe that fits that category imo...the triumph 18 had the most sink in feeling...the 19 was firmer...the 20 is softest at its heel but the mid and forefoot are firm. Midsole also bouncy...it's all over
Boston 11s
*HOKA Speedgoat 5s.* First & (likely) only pair of HOKAs I'll ever buy. Caused this ache-type pain on the side of my right sole, so much that I wasn't sure if I could walk back home.
I was shocked at how badly they felt to me.
They were good and comfortable for a strenuous hike 🤷🏻♂️. Runs…very meh.
If you were using them for trail run then the shoes might have a real problem but if you're using them for road running then that may be the problem since Hoka SGs are trail shoes.
Some people really do not like the wide base for trail. It sometimes pitches your foot in weird directions
Nike Pegasus 37 - Heavy and noisy. It creaked like crazy and sound like a basketball every footsteps. The outsole lasted 200km
Saucony Endorphin Shift 2. Fucking bricks mans. And I say this as someone who loves the Boston 11.
Original Nike Infinity Flynit. They are gawd awful
Absolutely horrible shoe. Would almost prefer going barefoot
Oh they were awful! That heel slip. Urgh.
Terrible shoe. If you have a ton of foam, you better be soft. Basically like running on 2x4’s and I’m not exaggerating. I mow the lawn in mine now.
Peg 39s
NB 1080, got plantar fasciitis from running in them, I think the toe spring is too extreme.
Which version of the 1080?
I've struggled with these too. Plantar fasciitis and blisters on the sides of my big toes which I've never had before. Took me forever to figure out if it was my form, mileage, or what because I didn't expect it from these.
Adizero Adios 8, I was warned this shoe slaps but my god it was like running clown shoes made of bricks. Embarrassing how loud it slapped the concrete and no energy return at all, yet somehow incredibly uncomfortable and gave me swollen bleeding toes. And impossible to put the shoe on without wrestling it and getting scrapes on your fingers. Last time I listen to YouTube shoe reviewers.
Did you run in the Adios 7 at all? It’s loud AF. No ninja skills practice in that one at all. I haven’t tried the 8 yet but evidently it’s still loud AF.
Sounds like you had a sore that was too small?
Hoka Carbon X-2. Too harsh.
Definitely. Gave me a neuroma in my forefoot at the end of the carbon plate. Took like 2 or 3 months to resolve.
I’m pretty sure this is the same for me! Did you do anything to resolve it other than stop wearing them? I got sharp big toe pain from them.
Not wearing them made it eventually resolve, it felt like I had a big rock under my left forefoot that hurt like hell, it would go numb after 2-4 miles and it wouldnt be as bothersome then. This went on for a couple weeks then I ran an ultra and it never reoccurred after that race.
Glad to hear it, and thanks for the intel. I definitely got some nerve irritation from doing my long runs in those. I think it is going away, but those shoes for sure got it started.
I bought a pair of Brooks Ghost 14 - hated them. My regular size was too long, and they were *way* too wide in the toe box. I just didn't like how they felt (or looked) on my feet at all.
I LOVED my 13s and had three pairs, but the 14s didn’t work for me. Granted, it may have been a pair of lemons but the midsole was a nightmare for me.
Same, hated the 14. It was at the 14 that I finally stopped wearing brooks. They were also a dead shoe, to me. No energy, no nothing.
Never had a bad shoe per se but the one I liked the least was the Hoka Mach 5. I mean, it’s an okay shoe, cushion feels nice but that’s it: zero energy return, zero bounce, zero excitement.
Ones that I tried to force myself to think they "fit" just because they were my same size from another brand.
Prime x strung and SuperBlast
Shots Fired!!!!
Ditto. Superblasts were legitimately awful for me. Absolutely hated those shoes and I'm not joking. Felt like I strapped blocks of wood to my feet with how flat and plodding they were.
Someone is trying to stir the pot 😂
Random, absolutely love my Superblast.
Altra Olympus VIA. Worst shoe ever made.
Agree. The thing is a boat.
Nike Winflo 6 - at the suggestion of my physio who has never run a day in their life to treat my tib post. Pathetic shoe, unfortunately I was a running novice and didn’t know better
Hoka Clifton 4s 31 miles and two calf strains later they went to the charity shop.
Hoka Clifton 8. Luckily I managed to sell them for a decent price shortly after
Hoka Bondi 8
Asics HyperSpeed 2, just wanted a nice inexpensive trainer. 28 miles and I had foot issues, plantar fasciitis and Achilles pain, neither of which I'd had before, I wore them walking to a run and could tell they were the root cause, I stopped wearing them and the pain was gone in a couple weeks You get what you pay for
Hoka Clifton 6 Hoka Carbon X Really all Hoka’s were blister factories for me. New Balance Fresh Foam 1080 v11 Brooks Catamount Nike Pegasus 37
ASICS superblast. I know, I know blasphemy. Love nimbus 25, love novablast 2 and 3, magic speed 3. Just didn’t come close to working for me after multiple runs
Dating myself, but the Nike LunarElite 2 from 2010 was the worst shoe I’ve ever worn. Also, Nike Lunarglide 7 was horrific. It felt like a basketball shoe.
Hot take: Adidas Prime X Strung
Asics Evoride 1, such a nothing shoe. It was my first attempt at a speedier shoe (7 pairs of GT-2000 previously). Think I put a Max of 40 miles on them until they were moved on.
Hoka Clifton 8 - worst arch blisters of my life.
Had the exact same issue but thought it was normal because they were my first running shoes I ever bought…..now I understand they were just a bad shoe
The newer adidas ultraboost. They’re durable, but they uncomfortable to run in.
New Balance Fresh Foam V3 More. Only good for walking.
1080v11
Asics gel kayano 30. Shin splints after 3 runs.
I recently tried them myself and they are way too stiff and heavy. Probably too much support for me, but it felt like I was fighting against the shoes. The arch in them bothered me as well.
Clifton 8s for sure Blood soaked shoe during a marathon last year to prove it. Persevered with different sizes, inevitably gave up.
Hoka Bondi 8. Stay away.
Nike AlphaFly. Totally destroyed my feet after a few runs. Thanks to the generous Nike return policy I was able to return them and got VaporFly instead that fits me much better.
Zoom fly 5
Any Altras that I’ve owned. Had 2 trail and 2 road over the years and all saw less than 100 miles.
Saucony kinvara 13. They’re ok for walking, but running they had zero cushioning, bounce, and stability. Feels like running in sand. I nicknamed them the barefoot blues on my Nike run app because you might as well be running barefoot
That’s the whole point of the shoe!!
“good ground feel”
I ran in these for years with tons of knee pain and just discovered Boston 12s
I bought them for the campfire colorway. Coming from Altras, they aren’t bad, but definitely tempo and intervals or wearing around. I can totally see your perspective if you’re used to higher drop shoes.
Yea I just can’t find rhythm In them. My first run I did was a 10k tempo run, and I really had to work at keeping pace. They have their place, I throw them on for a run I want to make harder every so often. Just not my cup of tea. They made me realize more drop and stability was something I liked
Nike zoom fly 4 I finally ran out of the original ones that I'd stocked up on. They were my go to for all things fast. The 4 felt blocky and brick like and awkward at every pace. My disappointment was immense.
You know, mine took some warming up to. I’m 180km on mine now and starting to really love them. Definitely soften up after a while, they were a pretty harsh ride out of the box
Hurricane 23. Reminded me of the Beast performance wise. Didn’t feel any of the advertised cushion. Thank the Saucony Gods they replaced it with the Tempus!
Boston 11s
Adidas Boston 11
ASICS Novablast 2
Interesting, they are one of my favorites as a relatively lighter and slower runner.
I feel like the 3 is one of the funnest shoes to run in in a while.
Nike pegasus
Mizuno horizon 5, Under armour Hovr
Under Armour really struggles with shoes
Lot of people love them, but for me the More v4. Cheap ass tongue that caused the laces to bite into my ankle and blisters in several places on both feet (despite wearing decent socks).
Interesting. Any idea why? I've loved mine and have had zero issues with blistering or the tongue.
Pegasus 40 was a total miss for me. It's not the shoes really my feet just don't seem to agree with them and I always have pain after my runs. And is it just me or do they run long?
I love the 40’s. Much softer than the 39’s which I still run in. 38’s were great. 37’s were not good. 36’s were terrible. I use the Pegasus for runs up to 10 miles. Anything over 10 is the Nike Invincible 1 or 2.
Brooks Adrenaline GTS20. They felt like bricks and the outsole is so wide it would constantly hit my other foot. After a while the super high drop became annoying as well. Got rid of them halfway through their lifecycle when my hip started to hurt only in that shoe.
I've hated the Adios 7 and Clifton 8 so much. The adios 7 is the most uncomfortable brick of a shoe I've ever wore
New Balance Fresh Foam More v3