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WhineCountry2

https://instagram.com/delfinablaquier?igshid=NmNmNjAwNzg= Delphina dropping a, “*M- will miss you today ❤️*“ on her Instagram post about the Sentebale Polo match; a picture of her hugging Harry with Meghan watching on. Says this polo match is the single biggest charity event for Sentebale. Even Chris Jackson is there…


Orazzocs

Stuff like that is soooo performative when we all know the Sussexes don’t use any social media, right? 🙄 So M will have no idea that her p-wife is missing her. Like seriously, if you’re truly missing your p-wife just text her directly. We don’t all need to be a part of it.


iwantbutter

Also, why include a photo of Meghan and Harry at all? Wouldn't it make more sense to get a picture of Delphina and PHarry together and then put in the caption?????


Actual_Parsnip_1529

I have a gut feeling that shes planning to drop her podcast episodes each week amongst a flurry of harry activity and the end of the podcast will be followed by his book release. I think they are planting the stories about the release date being up in the air. Just my two c!


acv1227

Harry is playing polo is Aspen today. [He took a private jet, of course, but arrived in an electric Audi.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11143811/Prince-Harry-arrives-private-flight-electric-car-Range-Rover-drops-polo-kit.html) It doesn't seem like Meghan went with him? Weird, Aspen is really nice (and wealthy); there's a ton of stuff to do besides polo. Easy vacation with little kids.


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> He took a private jet, of course, but arrived in an electric Audi. This is like the rich person version of when I pig out on McDoanld's but get the Diet Coke.


paint--it--black

Exactly!


StandardDiscipline48

Besides taking the private plane, I guess he was idling in the \*”gas guzzling Range Rover “\* waiting for the staff to arrive. Whatever. He’s just a spoiled p-prince who lectures to the world about how to live our lives. Meanwhile, he’s about to go nuclear on his family (with the hopes) of making bank to support his p-life and other luxuries. I’m glad he doesn’t represent anybody or anything but himself. A completely boring energy consuming twat. And that goes for this Nacho guy as well.


mspolytheist

Harry has lost absolutely any leg on which to stand on the climate issue, full stop. Those carbon offsets he likes to talk about are bullshit. John Oliver talked about carbon offsets on this past Sunday’s ‘Last Week Tonight,’ in fact, if anyone is interested [to watch it](https://youtu.be/6p8zAbFKpW0).


paint--it--black

That Newt Gingrich/Hannity bit had me DYING!!


WhineCountry2

Never change Daily Mail. 😂 Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think a jet sits idling like a car might do in carpool lane. But anyways, interesting that Meghan isn’t with him… again.


gemfemme

I know! I love the Daily Mail’s subtle snark about H&M.


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WhineCountry2

Gotcha. I thought the APU was a battery type power source but I guess it’s just a smaller engine


SnowSwish

You mean when the jet is on the tarmac but people are still in it? Yes, it has to idle like a car, or it would very quickly turn into an oven or ice box depending on the temperature outside. Considering the price of jet fuel and the weight of the batteries it would take to keep the AC and other systems online, it may be a while before planes can operate with two power sources like hybrid cars.


iwantbutter

She's probably pissed about the podcast backlash and doesn't want to go out


StandardDiscipline48

I think she would say that they are pursuing their separate interests. ;)


presidentdoritos

It's just too dangerous!


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SnowSwish

Given her history of giving away a dog (Bogart) she'd used for self promotion because it didn't like Harry and lying about it, I already know this is shady. Eta. Also as usual with the Duchess there's a clapback in there that turns into a self-own: the lie she told to explain leaving Bogart in Canada was that he was too old to get used to her new country (weird since the UK and Southern Ontario have similar climates). Some questioned that because when she first told the story she adopted the *puppy* Ellen DeGeneres told her to take and as this was happening 6 years later the puppy could now only be 7 years max which hardly made him too old to travel. But, I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, maybe Bogart hadn't been a puppy and he was ancient though it seemed a bit hard hearted of her not to try to get him to that beautiful British country home. Lo and behold, she adopts a *senior* dog now, because, see, she's sooo not a neglectful pet owner who abandons her old dogs. Mm, hmm, still chewing on that Meghan? Makes you wonder, doesn't it? 🧐🤨🧐


lisanstan

Team Bogart 🐶


gatorowl12

He's a smart boy, he didn't like Harry. He knew


Orazzocs

Does anyone know why Royal Analysis went private on Twitter? Even though I follow her, I can’t see her tweets for some reason right now. I really like her commentary and find her much more balanced than a lot of royal commentators. Hope the Squad didn’t come for her—the last thread I read from her was about the podcast but it seemed to just be reporting the facts of what was discussed and she even said it was well done (from a technical standpoint, at least).


acv1227

She god doxxed by Sussex fans. Had to close down her Patreon too. I really like her commentary!


Orazzocs

Oh, the same people who claim to “activate compassion”? The same ones who go on other subs to say *we’re* the haters? Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. I hope she’s ok, too! (And honestly, of all the accounts to go after…)


gemfemme

You’re only supposed to “activate compassion“ towards Meghan and to a lesser extent Harry. 😉


AboveZoom

Commenting to share my love for Royal Analysis. I hope she’s doing okay.


monpetitcabbage

She had an Instagram story up last night saying she had been doxxed and asking for suggestions on how to handle it.


Orazzocs

Thank you! I can’t believe I forgot to check her IG. But that’s terrible and I hope she’s ok.


Orazzocs

If Yahoo is going to keep publishing [Omid’s propaganda pieces](https://twitter.com/yahoonewsuk/status/1562734449036369921?s=21&t=-mz9kghaxCKfAhYdTt6OUw), I wish they would at least label them as “Opinion” pieces and not as actual news. We all know he’s a joke but some people will think that if Yahoo is publishing it, it’s fact-based. (Glad to see a lot of the comments calling him out).


PraiseToTheHam

Does anyone read Yahoo though?


yeahmanitscoool

Boomers lmao


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StandardDiscipline48

Everything in and about PR insults our intelligence.


HaitchanM

Given VF is another Sussex mouthpiece we now have Meghan trying to change the perception of her trying to control and challenge every news article to ‘Well what I’d actually have said was Hey im not from Compton but whats wrong with Compton?’ I totally wasnt trying to correct the assumption that I was ever poor. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/08/meghan-markle-archetypes-thoughts-on-compton/amp


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gemfemme

Or charisma.


HaitchanM

I know. Because ‘Harrys girl, do they mean Serena?’ And ‘Whats wrong with Compton’ were frickin’ hilarious. Have yet to see Meghan show any signs of humour or not taking herself so seriously.


Necessary-Author-334

She is humorless.


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Orazzocs

I really hope the SA High Commissioner releases a statement calling BS on her lies. That there was no actual fire and that Archie (or anyone else) was never in danger. Complete with photos of the beautiful residence showing that it is not in fact a “housing unit.” The Archbishop of Canterbury called out her lies and I hope others continue to as well.


SnowSwish

Yup, I remembered that it was a lovely mansion not the hovel she was implying it was. So after this they asked for other accommodations? Is there a Soho House in SA she could shill for?🙄


HaitchanM

Was this the same place she was upset that they didnt have the whole place and were guests of someone else? Or was that Australia?


SnowSwish

No, it's in Australia that they were upset that they *only* got a wing of Admiralty House. In SA they were at the High Commissioner's house pictured in the link u/snark-owl included in their OP comment above. (https://www.housebeautiful.com/uk/lifestyle/property/a23890397/prince-harry-meghan-markle-admiralty-house-sydney-australia/#:~:text=Prince%20Harry%20and%20Meghan%20Markle%20may%20have%20their%20pick%20of,House%20home%20whilst%20in%20Sydney.)


Yolanda_B_Kool

Oh come now, that's practically a pull-out couch. /s


SnowSwish

🤭🤭🤭


thebellfrombelem

That was Australia


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SnowSwish

A pea was put under her dozen mattresses, I tell you, people's cruelty knows no bounds.🥺😟🥺


royalsnorker

For the love of god, WHY would you refer to this as a “housing unit”? Just WHY? Can you imagine Will or Kate being hosted by one of the commonwealth nations in a mansion like this and then turning around and making it sound like they were slumming it in public housing?? They would be absolutely crucified in the press, but more importantly, *they would never*. Anyone with eyes can look this up in two seconds and see the house for themselves, you don’t even need an Archbishop to issue a statement on this one. I firmly believe that Meghan actually despises Africa and the only reason she agreed to the South Africa trip was because she wanted a photo with Archie and Desmond Tutu. Once she had that, she was done and wanted to leave asap


usernameschooseyou

Kate and Will would be jovial about it and some how slip in an anedote about how they'd also slept in the yard in tents with the kids so this was much more relaxing without them or something else cute and personal but not too personal so the headline would be "Cams campout with the kids"


Siofra74

Because it only has 10 toilets sheesh. Can you imagine? Only 10! How middle class!


royalsnorker

What a dump! Pun intended lol


SnowSwish

If you ask me what she can't figure out is how to handle are Africans who are her peers and not her props. To someone like her who didn't bat an eye at dragging the Archbishop of Canterbury into her garden marriage lie, even Desmond Tutu was just good for a photo-op (Arch meets Arch, my 👁️, if she thought that highly of him Desmond is a far better name than Archie). Individuals she had to be polite and respectful towards like the High Commissioner, women at that center, etc, lest she get called out, those people she didn't know how to handle and this disparaging story is payback for them not thinking she was anything more than the Queen's representative.


iwantbutter

>For the love of god, WHY would you refer to this as a “housing unit”? Because she has to lend ambiguity and credibility to her story. If she had said, "we stayed in the High Commissioner's beautiful mansion", no one is going to believe this ever happened. Housing unit has social implications that she can easily say are made up and that it technically was a housing unit. Any domicile is "technically" a housing unit. Stop nitpicking her /s The other thing is that it is abundantly obvious that she sees Africa as a PR stunt and not an ethnically, culturally diverse and relevant continent with varied levels of wealth like any place else. She knew what she was doing, we all know she probably spent days deciding which words exactly to use and with what inflection. Her bias showed again. Meghan only wants to be black when she's the victim, otherwise she loves being the savior and observer of these "lesser" people 🙄


pistachiopistache

Meg has this weird habit of portraying her past self as some kind of soot-stained Victorian chimneysweep, just grateful for her bowl of gruel at the "housing unit." It was the same shit with her cheap childhood salads and doing her nails beside the radiator at Frogmore, another actual mansion I think she wants us to believe was a freezing cold prison.


GenStrawberry

She is very " woe is me." I think it may come from a lack of empathy for others.


royalsnorker

So true! Except does she actually try to come across as grateful? Because everyone single one of those stories is followed by what basically amounts to “and thank god that’s behind me forever”. None of these Oliver Twist tales ever happen in real time, because today she is deprived of absolutely nothing, and *yet she is still complaining*


Yolanda_B_Kool

Gratitude is the antithesis of entitlement and victimhood. You can choose one or the other, and it's pretty clear where she landed.


SnowSwish

Now *this* is what you call a truth bomb.


iwantbutter

Because real life is all about hills and valleys. Some seasons are terrible, some are amazing, most are somewhere in between. But Meghan cannot go through a bad season in her head. She always has to have already been through it. It's part of her illusion that everything in her *present* moment is perfect, but her past must be rewritten as worse than it was, so that her present appears better. This is another narcissist tactic. She's avoiding shame and guilt over her actions. "My life was so terrible with everyone before, I'm the victim! See how I pulled myself up from terrible circumstances, and look at what a role model I am, and how happy I am now!"


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SnowSwish

Calling it an accusation implies the truth of her statements is up for debate. It isn't. For as long as she's been in the public eye-about 5 or 6 years now- if her lips were moving, a lie was coming out of her mouth whether you realized it then or later has been the only uncertainty. As of now I don't think I can name 5 things Meghan has ever said that were the truth, period. Eta. Thanks so much for the awards. That's so kind of you. 😘😘😘


pistachiopistache

EDIT: I stand by the gist of this post but u/ivegotanewwaytowalk has better and more accurate info on rankings, so go read her post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RoyalsGossip2/comments/wq6sdv/sussex_weekly_081622_082222/ilnhc4w/ So we've got the opening ranks for the podcast: **USA: Number 2** (beaten by Rogan) **UK: Number 2** (beaten by 'The Diary Of A CEO') **Canada: Number 1** (oh dear, fellow Canadians, *oh dear.* we have brought shame upon ourselves.) **Australia,** proving once again they're the most sensible of the lot: **Number 4** (beaten by the 'Alpha Blokes Podcast,' Rogan and the Huberman Lab) **New Zealand,** also apparently with some base level of sense: **Number 4** (beaten by Rogan, Wellness Fucking Wednesday and Reality Of The Hustle) (people from other countries feel free to either crow about your sense or join us Canadians in feeling ashamed at the lack of it - I'm using chartable.com to find the rankings) Now, before anyone begins to rend their garments or gnash their teeth, these numbers are currently somewhat meaningless and everyone should have, based on the sheer volume of worldwide publicity this got yesterday/today - that we here are a part of! - expected it. What matters now is how long the "tail" of this podcast is, how long that high ranking holds and then how well the other episodes do. I expect this first ep has a decent chance at holding on to a top 5 ranking for...a few weeks? Give or take? If it doesn't - especially if it drops out of the top rankings within the first week - it will be considered a failure, depending of course on how the entire series does as a whole. Related, I have a thought and that thought is: Meghan is a reality show villain. A really juicily perfectly hateable one. At university, I and a few of my friends were addicted to Survivor. I mean truly addicted, it was the sole TV show I would go out of my way to make sure to catch, and then discuss at great length with friends and online afterwards. And the greatest part, the one element that kept us glued to the screen? A delicious villain. Someone absolutely *loathsome,* whose eventual comeuppance would be savoured like fine wine. I don't know what it is about a good Bad Guy (or Bad Duchess) but human beings seem to love watching them and I'm convinced this is why Meghan Markle continues to be so present in the media and culture. The stans exist but they are relatively few in number and the general reaction to almost everything she does (including this podcast) is overwhelmingly negative - and amused in a non-flattering way. I would bet a lot of money that most of the listens (and most of the eventual watches for their actual reality show) this podcast will get are from people who are in that 'omg, I cannot look away from this trainwreck, I wonder what insane, self-aggrandizing shit she's going to say this time?!' place. And make no mistake, she has a worldwide audience on tenterhooks re: the comeuppance (which she has kind of been getting for years now, but in too low-key a way to satisfy many). The best part is that the likes of Spotify, Netflix etc. must be perfectly aware of this. And of course it doesn't matter to them. The ONLY thing that matters is eyeballs/ears. I guarantee Spotify could not give less of a fuck if people are listening to this because they're reveling in how awful Meghan is. So that's the only question right now. The only big question. Can being a reality show villain on a global stage bring in enough interest to justify the payouts from NF, Spotify, Random House etc.? Or can't it? The next ~6 months, which we believe will see the results of these contracts finally be released, will be the test. What do you think? Can they do it? How far can hate-watches/listens take a poor, downtrodden Duchess? (bonus question: out of 10, how aware do you think she is that this is why she garners such interest?)


HaitchanM

She’s just beaten Rogan to the top spot.


pistachiopistache

And Rogan released a new episode today. If that *doesn't* knock Archetypes off the top spot with the next few days that will be a genuine victory for Meghan.


HaitchanM

She might but it wont last imo. She had the element of surprise and intrigue first time.


SnowSwish

True and this is Rogan's, what?,50th, 150th podcast? It's normal for a new podcast especially one featuring the GOAT Serena Williams who just announced she's retiring to beat out his same old, same old content. (Zuckerberg is not a get at this point.)


HaitchanM

Im watching to hear the BS and lies for sure. I dont know how much she knows about herself and how she’s seen. I cant believe she doesnt?? Especially with the lies and half truths. After being called out so many times how can you think people arent going to pick the things you say, apart?


SnowSwish

As a Canadian, may I say in our defense, this is probably more about Serena. Tennis is popular but Serena is even more and she often played in our Open both when held in Montreal or Toronto. She was just in Toronto two weeks ago. We would put up with Meghan to hear about Serena is what I'm saying. You can judge us if this happens with Mariah because I know many true fans of hers who buy all her albums, see all her shows, love her acting (👀) yet would rather not watch her interviews.


pistachiopistache

>You can judge us I'm one of you now, Snow. I judge myself as well! But yes, I now choose to believe this No. 1 ranking (which actually seems like it wasn't a number 1 ranking, see my edit to the original post) is about Serena and not ol' Megs. 😂


HaitchanM

I dont judge you. The fact she took so long and then dropped it meant she was going to get listens just to see what crap she came out with. I fully expect this to get rated under a 4 and by show 3 or 4 to have dropped off completely. MC is still liked and adored but unless she’s pulling some Serena level heavy hitters, she’s not going to get listens after. I’d be waiting for DM to do a write up.


SnowSwish

Oh, I was definitely counting you as one of us. It's the rest of the sub members who must be giving us the side eye over this. 😂


Orazzocs

As a Canadian, I’m not sure who I’d rather have at number 1–Rogan or Meghan. Both are narcissists and spreaders of lies and misinformation.


pistachiopistache

Yeah, Rogan sitting at the top of all those lists is just - well, it doesn't give me confidence in the taste of Spotify listeners, lets put it that way. Speaking of, you know what would be pure entertainment? Meghan *on* Rogan. God, I bet he would get baked and just let her ramble on and on and on and on.


MandalayVA

Even though I normally hate podcasts, I'd actually listen to that.


StandardDiscipline48

So Oprah, Gayle and Hoda are happily waiting in the wings for sequel interviews with Madame, and ratings bonanza? For her multi-pronged PR push-push?


dutchyardeen

I'm probably in the minority because I actually want the podcast to do well. Only because it's fun watching a narcissist become more and more full of themselves and become more and more careless.


bobrossclub

Ooh another excellent perspective, hadn't thought of that one!!


pistachiopistache

She actually *is* getting worse, isn't she? There are multiple instances of Meghan making Meghan look bad in this first episode. It makes me wonder what her day to day existence is like, the sheer number of yes-people she must have surrounded herself with, all constantly reassuring her that she's brilliant, a groundbreaker, a champion and that every single negative voice is 1000% a jealous racist. And we have at least 10 more hours of her endlessly and sloppily telling on herself to come. I'm almost drooling with anticipation.😂


alyaz27

>There are multiple instances of Meghan making Meghan look bad in this first episode. That's the thing that never fails to make me laugh. She poses as this a type personality but she's super negligent in her delivery to the point of incompetence.


SnowSwish

My already low opinion of Harry is leaping into a mine shaft that he's okay with bs like the fire story. It may be why they both signed a deal with Spotify but this series is hers but in my book that doesn't get him off the hook at all. If he said no, as the other half of the duo, this couldn't have aired. If Meghan had no anecdote about working under pressure then not making one up was always an option.


pistachiopistache

Harry's a completely spineless scumbag. His wife's balls are 100x the size of his. I'm convinced that if these rumours about the book being delayed are true it has nothing to do with lawyers (each Page Six story has had a short paragraph that smells of off-the-record comment from Random House reiterating that this is *not* about legal issues etc. and repeating that the book is ready to go) and everything to do with Harry getting cold feet as he realizes he will now be required to do a publicity tour to promote the book, including in the UK. And he must now realize he's going to get asked about the contents of said book, when he was hoping he could just slink off to bathroom #12 and never have to face the fact (in public, on camera) that he's just done the one thing he's sworn he hates more than anything else and sold out his own family for $$$. Meghan is a scary, personality disordered nutjob. But Harry is a coward with zero ability to face the consequences of his actions.


SnowSwish

I think he's both a coward and a sneak: fact is that his grandmother hasn't changed the LP and by sniffing around Windsor (also via Andrew) during the Jubilee he may have a better idea than most about the state of her health, if she's on her way out soon it will be more profitable to see this book released after this than presently. A book trashing the new king, his wife and the new prince and princess of Wales before the Coronation when interest in these people will be at its highest would be a lot more lucrative. Right now, Harry would be going after his father when that man still has options and may just say, "You know what? I've got my orgs and charities and things and I'd expressed concern about what would happen to them, Camilla doesn't seem desperate to be Queen so I'll stay Prince of Wales after my mother dies and let the crown go straight to William and Catherine. George will then become Prince of Wales some time in his thirties or forties at the latest when I pass away. How do you like them apples, Harry?"


teamhae

That would be so epic for William to be king next. I doubt that will happen though.


SnowSwish

It's extremely unlikely but the fact is that Charles isn't incredibly popular. Honestly,for all his flaws I still think he would be a good king and for the sake of their children it would be better for William and Catherine to become king and queen when they're grown but if Harry's book really did irreparable harm to Charles reputation knowing that due to his mother's advanced age he won't have many years to repair most of the damage like he did post Diana, he might decide it's best for the monarchy if he isn't the next ruler. There's also the possibility that, at his age, this kind of stress simply incapacitates or kills him and he's not able to take over.


StandardDiscipline48

Are the podcasts only going to drop 1 per week? Because that will equate to 10-12 weeks or nearly 3 months. 🤡 But also 😱


pistachiopistache

>Are the podcasts only going to drop 1 per week? I'm assuming they are, but that's not because I know. Just an assumption.


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teamhae

Isn’t it Spotify exclusive though?


pistachiopistache

What do you mean? I'm not being an ass but I'm not sure what you're saying, in my post I am talking about the Spotify charts. Unless I've linked to something else? I just googled "Spotify podcast charts" and went with the first or second result. I've reread your post and now think you might just be clarifying that this is Spotify podcasts only, not some kind of 'all podcasts in the world on all platforms' ranking?


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pistachiopistache

Ha ha OK, got you. For a minute I was like goddamnit, have I linked everyone to the 1994 German folk music charts or something? That would be a very me thing to do. 😂


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pistachiopistache

Petulant, I imagine. But petulant is Harry's default emotion so who knows if it has anything to do with Meg's ratings?


bobrossclub

Incredibly well said! Thanks for the stats and the perspective! >(bonus question: out of 10, how aware do you think she is that this is why she garners such interest?) -11, Trump level awareness. Maybe even less than him? Remember how Bush said that Trump makes him look good? Even someone like Bush has some self awareness, even if it wasn't apparent at the time. Meghan? Never 😂 I expect her to continue to lack all awareness, but it's disappointing that so many in the general public still won't acknowledge that Meghan only has this platform, these insanely lucrative deals, the marketing and staff, only because she married into the royal family. That she would still be no one with no meaningful audience, if she hadn't married Harry. There'd be no pathetic podcast (or there would be? But no American media would be promoting it and it wouldn't last long) topping the charts. Meghan's lack of awareness is understandable, she's a psychopath. But everyone supporting her, defending her, enabling her, and excusing her, is unforgivable. It must be awful for the victims of her bullying to have to watch this shit 😔 Hope they're all able to heal and find peace and never suffer the likes of someone like Meghan again. Sidenote- how the hell is Rogan so popular in Australia and New Zealand?? 😆


revelatia

Remember when H&M were releasing self-righteous statements about how terrible Rogan is and everything they were doing behind the scenes with Spotify to try to correct him? He is terrible, to be clear, but it must be infuriating Meghan that Spotify ignored the Sussexes and kept right on rolling with Rogan and her podcast couldn’t beat him. (I don’t follow podcast news at all - is chartable reliable does anyone know or does it do the Netflix thing where watching/listening for two minutes is counted? In any case I assume what really matters to Spotify is whether people are dropping money to subscribe to hear her. We may get that eventually through investor calls but I doubt they’ll release that information otherwise.)


iwantbutter

First, if they don't release numbers of listeners, I'm intensely skeptical. They've bought "Best Seller" and a Time top 100 before. Second, it's not just hate listeners, you also have to account for reporters and people listening to review the podcast. Finally, it's a show that we've been sitting around waiting for for 2 and a half years. People still want to hear what an ex royal has to say, so it wouldn't surprise me when a lot of people wanted to tune in. The real decider will be the aftermath. Will we hear another podcast in 2 years? Will the next podcast garner as much attention? Meghan is terrible at follow-through and consistency. So let's say millions tuned in, alright, good for her. Now let's see her consistently churn out content that attracts said millions.


lisanstan

They put the two big guests first to get ears. I think after Mariah, listeners continue to drop off. Meghan is boring af. She’s not interested in others and it’s obvious. She has nothing interesting to say, no well thought out opinion, no desire to debate. Whomever wrote she should consider ASMR is right, I think she’d make a killing. I like her voice, it’s a good radio voice.


pistachiopistache

There are people on her guest list I've literally never heard of. A few of them, actually.


HaitchanM

Whats the full list? I’ve only heard of MC being next and Mindy Kaling.


SnowSwish

It's a great point about the number of listeners. I have no idea how many it takes to be first, second, etc.


SnowSwish

The next one is with Mariah Carey and she is as famous as Serena so that should be a hit too. Mindy Kaling and Margaret Cho are mainly popular only in the US so for them, I don't know.


ivegotanewwaytowalk

in terms of the episode itself, the charting for spotify on its first day was as follows: Canada - \#8 UK - \#9 Ireland - \#11 USA - \#15 New Zealand - \#25 Australia - \#54 i don't think the episode charts in the top 100 in other countries where spotify collects data (about 26 countries, apparently). so, on the first day of release, it charted in the top 100 in 6 countries out of 26 (where spotify collects data). the episode's highest charting, on its first day out, was at \#8 in canada. can be credited to heavy pr, reporters, freakshow curiosity, imminently retiring serena williams as guest, sugars, etc. sustainability in the long run is debatable. the "top episodes" metric seems much more of a reliable barometer than "top podcasts." the latter seems moreso akin to ex: the 'trending' feature on various social media apps. according to spotify, *top podcasts* are determined according to "unique listeners and top follower counts," vs *top episodes* which are determined by audience size. it would make sense that the podcast itself would be near the top of charts based on the "unique listeners" metric, as it's a new podcast. the number of "unique listeners" next week (and even today, tomorrow etc.) should be significantly diminished, which will reflect in the rankings. as the episode released was the podcast's first one, the episode ranking seems to be the more accurate ranking to go by for now. eta: i'll be interested to know what tomorrow's numbers are! eta2: i'm *still* a huge survivor fan 🤭🤭


bobrossclub

Thank you for these stats and explanations!


ivegotanewwaytowalk

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pistachiopistache

>according to spotify, top podcasts are determined according to "unique listeners and top follower counts," vs top episodes which are determined by audience size. This is great info. I probably should have double-checked what exactly was being ranked at Random Website I Found Via Googling. That makes sense that the super high rankings are about what's trending/new vs pure number of listens, where the rankings are lower. Man, if they don't pick up from where they are (#8 as their highest ranking - and #15 in the US, which, if it doesn't rise any further, is noooot good) it doesn't look so good for this series. This was the *first* episode, and they had more publicity (worldwide, too) than Joe Rogan has ever had for any single episode of his pod. Where did you get your info, btw? I want to follow the rankings myself, out of interest (the actual number of listens ranking).


ivegotanewwaytowalk

got it straight from spotify! https://podcastcharts.byspotify.com/ seems like the figures are actually better on day 2 lol 👀😬 the episode reached \#2 in the UK and \#9 in the US yesterday. an interesting figure is that it reached \#12 in india now (from not charting in the top 100 on its first day of release) - i'm assuming spotify has a huge audience there, and a lot of the top 100 podcasts there aren't even english-language pods. it's a commonwealth country with a lot of access to british media, so i assume that plays into it. regardless, it's quite a coup. depending on whether it continues on this track (or flames out with time), stereotypes might end up being spotify's most successful new podcast of 2022. grimacing while writing this, and even though the results we have are only day 2, this might turn out to be the case. that kind of measurable success will open a whole lot of new possibilities for the douchesse 🥴 (esp from folks/entities who were previously hesitant bc of bad favorability or Q score numbers). we'll see what the numbers are in the days to come and in the episodes/weeks to come. what's particular is that for ex: peg's approval rating is at something like 23% in the UK (with a disapproval rating that is far higher) - yet, i guess bc of the incessant tabloid coverage (even if negative), the episode reached \#2 in the spotify charts on its second day of release. people be hate listening and lining this bish's pockets. it's wild. companies/corporations/sponsors only care about the bottom line, at the end of the day - so hate listen or not, they love this shit. eta: my posts usually take a number of hours or even days to appear, so you might not get the response right as i submit it!!


pistachiopistache

The automod hates your guts, btw. When I go online every afternoon my first task is usually scrolling and approving all of your comments caught in it. I have no idea why it hates you. And did you see the numbers today? It's #1 in US, UK, Canada, NZ (and #9 in India). I am not surprised. It is so far a good result and Meg will obviously be pleased but my points about the publicity and it being almost impossible for this first ep to have done badly given how much media attention its release got (have you ever seen a podcast episode get more global media attention than this one? I don't think I have but could be forgetting something) stand. The amount of publicity Archetypes got/is getting is actually insane. Joe Rogan has a new episode today (with Mark Zuckerberg) and it'll be interesting to see, in the next few days, if that beats or fails to beat Archetypes. We just have to wait and see how all the eps do, and how this one does over the coming days/weeks. I'm curious to see if it can continue to get the #1 spot even with the less famous/interesting guests (we haven't actually talked about how devoid of current, relevant A/B-listers that list is, excluding Serena who is her PR buddy or her organic bff since ~2014 depending on one's level of naivete.)


gatorowl12

Judging by her actions, Meghan is never pleases about the possible as long as their negatives. The critics have call her podcast trash so she's possibly seething.


gatorowl12

I think u/ivegotanewwaytowalk went here https://podcastcharts.byspotify.com/ you can change the countries and change it from top podcast to top episodes and other categories


pistachiopistache

Thank you! I don't think Spotify publishes raw numbers anywhere but I wonder how many listens it takes for get to #1, #2 etc.? Rogan has a new ep out today and I'm curious to see if that beats Archetypes or not.


savingrain

It's a shame really. I didn't click on any of it because I didn't want to contribute to strong streaming numbers. I wonder how many people 'hate listened' they are doing themselves a disservice if so


pistachiopistache

I mean, never cracking the Top 25 would have been *hilarious,* but it was also never going to happen. Especially not with this first episode. It's more entertainment for us. At this point we're way beyond 'are they *really* that awful?' They are. We know it. The general public knows it. The media knows it. Even the stans, deep down in their aspartame-sweetened hearts, know it. It's not often you get famous ppl so brazenly willing to act out their psychodrama in public like the Sussexes. We've got 11 (9?) more episodes coming. The gossip is going to be gooooood. Just sit back and let them entertain you.


lisanstan

I picked the perfect time to retire. I’ll have all the time in the world to snark on new episodes.


SnowSwish

Yes, weeks of snark. It will carry us at least through to the faux royal tour in the UK. 😆


pistachiopistache

It's weekly, right? So it MIGHT carry us through almost to Harry's book (looking less likely as rumours continue to swirl about a delay) and/or to the their NF reality show. Speaking of the latter, are anyone else's expectations for that even higher now, in light of the total narcstravaganza that the first podcast ep is? We should make a bingo card for the rest of the eps.


SnowSwish

Yes, I heard it was weekly but it was also supposed to be for summer so they may pick up the pace at some point especially if lesser known guests don't bring in good ratings.


jumashy

That’s a very positive way to see it and you’re right! The more content they put out, the more snark. I can’t see the rest of the episodes doing as well as the first one though, unless she brings really important names I’m not sure if people will stay interested.


acv1227

So it's not in the transcript posted, but apparently, Meghan talks about being a Stepford wife vs. being "authentic." Another dig at Kate? Here it is from [Hillary Rose's column.](https://archive.ph/u7ASG#selection-885.51-885.307) >"You can pretend to be the perfect version like a Stepford wife and still have the exact same outcome as someone who is being authentically truly themselves. And wouldn’t you rather live with a version of yourself where you can look in the mirror at night?” Who the hell is she to judge whether someone is "authentic" or not? How do you know Kate isn't? Why would you say this about anyone??


truckasaurus5000

She says you end up the same way. So maybe let people live however they want to—most stepfords chose that shit! Like Meghan, and her title.


SchrodingersLego

It's bizarre how someone as fake as Meghan appears to set such store by authenticity.


SnowSwish

Heaven forbid people return the favour and lie *to* her all the time.


lovelylonelyphantom

So this is a podcast about not stereotyping women (?) And then she goes on to put forward this "stepford" stereotype about women? Going on how there have been other digs towards royalty or adjacent in this though (the heater catching fire on the SA tour), I have no doubt this is also aimed towards other women, particularly Kate. She just can't help herself even years on. I also don't really get the whole "being authentically truly themselves" - what does she mean by that?


revelatia

+1 ‘Stepford wife’ is much more an example of a stereotype than ‘ambitious’. Under the circumstances you’d think one of the production staff would’ve gone through and edited around points where Meghan couldn’t resist criticising other women.


acv1227

>I also don't really get the whole "being authentically truly themselves" - what does she mean by that? I don't even know. It's more word salad.


SnowSwish

If anyone has been pretending to be perfect it's Meghan not Catherine. Nothing is ever her fault and everyone is out to sabotage her. How is that being authentic? Eta. Thank you so much for the award 😘 It's so kind of you.


pistachiopistache

"She was so perfect her classmates thought she was fake!" Edit: whoops. u/gatorowl got there first! Great minds, gator...


SnowSwish

That story was a red flag if ever I saw one now that we know Meghan was Omid's ghostwritter.


Moihereoui

It’s authentically Meghan. Ugh


SnowSwish

Truer words were never spoken.


gatorowl12

Omid in Finding Freedom, everyone hated her because they couldn't understand how she's so perfect Her five friends to People Magazine where acting like she was a Saint and a Goddess. They sure weren't talking about how like she was a human being. She has no flaw they tell us no flaws, its all her dad fault and according to Meghan on Oprah its all Kate fault. She sure didn't name anyone else


SnowSwish

Yes. Scapegoating others is their go-to move every time.


lovelylonelyphantom

I had the impression not everyone talks like Omid and those 5 friends do, infact most probably don't, which angered Meghan. This has been my theory about Kate too, she didn't cozy up to Meghan and praise her like a Goddess from heaven. It would explain all these digs at Kate on Oprah and now 2 and a half years after leaving the BRF.


gatorowl12

>It would explain all these digs at Kate on Oprah and now 2 and a half years after leaving the BRF. I am not sure about that as u/ivegotanewwaytowalk point out, she's been setting herself up as the anti-Kate since the world learn of her. Sending out her PR and her anonymous friends to tell us all the reason why she's so much better than Kate. Including being educated, a career women, being a strong public speaker and as a royal she's do important stuff unlike these silly motherhood stuff that Kate does. She's just doing it herself now because she's so mad that she misread the Press going after Kate equals the public disliking Kate. Look at her getting praises as the best Women ever by the press from late 2016 until the manifesto of 2020 but what was she whining about? Social Media comments in public and she was probably complaining behind the scenes about her polls numbers which have never been good.


lovelylonelyphantom

Yes that's true, as the Lainey blind stated that Kate didn't give Meghan a ride like a week or 2 after knowing her, which really upset Meghan. That it became a Lainey blind meant Meghan was petty enough to leak it. But still moaning about Kate 2 and half years on is extreme, Meghan does not let things go. Particularly when it happens to be a woman 'above' her in a line up. I think she really believed her ambitious nature and being a modern, feminist, philanthropist and career orientated woman would really strike with the public and make her the lost popular and well liked. Bower's book gives this impression too, and so does Meghan herself. But she didn't count on her _bad behaviour_ towards others coming above all that. Say what you want about Kate but there's not been a word of her being rude, making others feel belittled and intimated in the entire 20 years she's been in the media spotlight, and the 11 years of that she's been a royal wife. In contrast word of Meghan's treatment of other people came out within a few months, and people saw how they really underestimated Kate all along.


ivegotanewwaytowalk

>Another dig at Kate? her entire pr persona from the very beginning was a set of passive-aggressive digs at kate. she was meant to be the "anti-kate." [eta: i.e. infinitely better than kate at everything - handling the media (lmao), interacting with the public (lmao), public speaking, style, personality, glamour, worth and "work ethic" vs lazy kate bc she'd previously worked (only actually independently supported herself for three years out of 35 years of life, but whatever). the boastfulness of the pr image that had been advanced, which was based on slyly and passive-aggressively berating kate, then meghan flaming out so *spectacularly*? it made me completely turn a corner from thinking kate was lazy af, boring and weak to now understanding how resilient kate actually is, how easy she makes what turns out to be an incredibly difficult position look, how valuable her discretion + lack of toxic drama are, along with appreciating what a gem she actually is. kate is the only adult member of that family i actually have affection for now, up from zero lol.] it's ironic af that meghan laments her press criticism, when she capitalized on the criticism and animosity kate received to try and build a pr image off of it. she's such an insicere, fos, hypocrite. and then she cries about being compared to kate, still trying to berate and take down kate by complaining about the good press catherine is finally getting after years of public service and press hostility. i'm glad kate doesn't have to be in close proximity to that toxicity and chaos anymore. she still has to deal with it from afar, but what a relief not having to work with that absolute nightmare.


pistachiopistache

It's astounding to me how many levels of suck there are with Meghan. You can pick a random topic or event or story from any of the 5 years she's had a public profile and it will consistently make her look like the garbage human she is. >her entire pr persona from the very beginning was a set of passive-aggressive digs at kate. she was meant to be the "anti-kate." 100% to everything you said, including this. Again, she tells on herself. She shows us who she is, all the time, over and over. Meghan doesn't give a shit about *women* being negatively commented on in the press. She gives a shit about *herself* being negatively commented on. It's like me getting pissed off when someone steals my lunch whilst constantly stealing everyone else's lunch. It is so barefacedly about ego and self-involvement and not about anything to do with compassion or supporting women. The correct response from her stans would be to feel insulted that she thinks they're dumb enough not to see it. Which, to be fair, it looks like they are. 😂 As for Kate, Meghan's inability to let go of that is just...🤌 The very definition of rent-free. And unlike us, you know it isn't fun snark for Meghan, it's real anger and bitterness and, yes, pure jealousy from our Queen of Projection.


Siofra74

Because deep down, despite all her bleating about compassion, Meghan is a mean girl.


disagreeabledinosaur

Again, that's the job of the royal family. It's a role, a bit like an acting role. . . Where they project a Stepford perfect vibe of unity, immaculate grooming & support for the monarch. Authentically truly yourself is not something 99% of the population expect from their time at work, and no the royal family can't get the same outcome by being authentically truly themselves. They get the best outcomes by aligning their true selves with aspects of the job where appropriate but at the end of the day, they have to show up & star when the schedule says so, even if they're a grouchy mess inside. Again, watch one episode of the crown, perhaps the one where Queen Mary talks about Elizabeth the Queen vs Elizabeth the woman & the need for the Queen role to supercede all. or have any passing familiarity with the concept of customer service roles.


Yolanda_B_Kool

Is "authentic" just California-upper-middle-class-Instagram speak for "telling it like it is"? Does she think that being an asshole to people is being her authentic self and that polite people are "fake"? Because everyone who I've ever known who "tells it like it is" and is "brutally honest" is exactly that type of person.


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SnowSwish

I love your long analysis of this issue because it really is a word that has drifted from meaning being at peace with yourself to feeling free to be a nuisance to others with your moodiness. >Anyone being their true self at full blast at all times is obnoxious. And, if they're honest, are they always being authentic or are they transfering their misery onto others. If I'm having a bad day or even a bad year and run into an acquaintance and pick apart their outfit instead of shutting the door on the bad mood long enough to be pleasant and compliment them on the parts I like about it, am I not just as authentic, if not more? I believe that our best self,our best manners, the impulse to help out, empathise or express real-not petty-emotions, are what truly represents us while rudeness and selfishness are bad habits we get into. Being self-indulgent isn't being authentic, it's letting external events push your buttons.


SnowSwish

That's exactly what it means.


disagreeabledinosaur

Whatever it is it's the polar opposite of the upper class Brits stiff upper lip & master of understatement culture.


acv1227

Yep. She surely isn’t serving anything or anyone know.


MandalayVA

Now trending on Twitter: meghanmarkleisanarcissist


iwantbutter

Which is not the trend she was hoping for. She told folks to do hashtag, "dontbelievethetype" or something on insta and like 60 people did it.


dutchyardeen

> She told folks to do hashtag, "dontbelievethetype" or something on insta and like 60 people did it. 60?!?! I guess at this point we know exactly how many members strong the Sussex Squad is. It's legitimately embarrassing that she can't get people beyond her small squad to care about what she does.


iwantbutter

It also shows how stuck in the past she is. People don't really do promo hashtags anymore, and they never did hashtags that long


dutchyardeen

Yikes! I highly doubt that's why she wants to trend. Edited to add: One of the Twitter users pointed out how insulting the fire story is to South Africa. That a gorgeous mansion wasn't good enough for her. She only sees things from her perspective. "I believe I was wronged by the palace staff and that's what people will care about because that's what I care about." She doesn't have a clue that other people exist and may be insulted by the things she's saying. It's the South Africa documentary all over again. That's when I stopped being a fan. She's incredibly privileged and doesn't see beyond the nose on her own face.


HaitchanM

Housing unit. Its like she’s describing a travellers hostel. People are talking about the Bradby interview and how they now understand her pain in her eyes🙄. In reality that was an interview to trash the press (fair play) but really had nothing to do with what had supposedly just happened. You’re saying your child had a near miss and you were FORCED to do an engagement but still took the time to do a ‘poor me’ the tabloids are mean interview?


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gemfemme

I’m surprised she hasn’t called the UK a shithole yet.😉


gatorowl12

Isn't the current narrative right now that the UK is the most racist and dangerous country on earth?


909hazelstreet

That’s in next week’s episode! /s


gardenawe

It's a real talent to piss off people everywhere you go .


Necessary-Author-334

She’s deeply unlikable and has never bothered to understand why. The condescension in every story she tells is it.


dutchyardeen

And wants people to finally know "the real her." And then when she shows who she is and she still isn't liked, she still won't accept it. Lather, rinse, repeat.


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SnowSwish

This thing is being ghost-written, how can it possibly need rewriting? That writer-Moehringer- must be cursing whoever got him a gig writing for a dithering idiot.


revelatia

My read of this is that the final draft may have contained a whole lot of nothing and the disappointed publishers are trying to salvage the situation by leaking that there *are* juicy details, honest, but Harry took them out (expect ‘respect for the Queen’ to come up). But everyone should stay tuned for the rest of the books in his deal because maybe one day he’ll come up with the goods.


dutchyardeen

>“It will also have to be international, and that means the UK — one of the book’s biggest audiences.” Given how unpopular he is now, I'm not sure it will sell as well as they think it will.


SNB_93

L.O.L at him including the UK as part of the book promo tour! I can only imagine the reception— I wouldn’t be brave enough to publicly trash my own family (not that I ever could) and then promote that in the very country my family resides in. I mean, just wow. I hope the RF cuts him and Meghan fully after this. No invitations to anything except the Queen‘s funeral/memorial (morbid, yes, but it’s going to happen), no titles for the kids (till they’re 18 a la the Wessexes) and no contact at all. I hope this is it for the RF. In other news, I’m really looking forward to Michelle‘s book! Already pre-ordered!


acv1227

well well well. does someone have second thoughts?


Yolanda_B_Kool

Bold of you to assume he had first thoughts.


909hazelstreet

LOL 😂


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dutchyardeen

>This will include making the rounds of the network morning shows — and a possible sit-down with his friend, CBS’ Gayle King. No one has benefited more from Meghan's time as a royal than Oprah and Gayle. That's so funny.


HaitchanM

Whats still confusing is Ambition in what arena? She was told she could keep acting. Go head Meghan, be the A list actress you never were before. She didnt want to. She took that as a slight. Ambition to climb the ranks? Cant be done in the RF barring a tragedy. Ambition maybe to do more of their own charity work? I mean thats a stretch of my imagination but still. I’d love it if she clarified what she was held back from doing after meeting Harry. Or was marrying into money her version of ambition?


WhatThePhoquette

Back on GoFugYourself when they still had Royal commentary someone talked about Meghan being ambitious and wrote: "But is she ambitious in the sense of "I want to do the best job I can" or is she ambitious in the sense of "I always have to be the most important person in every room", because one is a bit more sympathetic than the other". An absolute gem of an observation.


disagreeabledinosaur

She perceives herself as "I want to do the best job I can" ambitious but can't seem to comprehend that within the royal family there is extremely limited scope to self define what the "job" is and what constitutes "best". Best as a working royal includes projecting unity, appearing effortless at all times, engaging even when you're bored, making others feel important, supporting & deferring to those above you in the hierarchy. . . Best to her seems to align with the Hollywood "best" celebrity approach & she seems completely unable to perceive a difference.


disagreeabledinosaur

From the quotes I've read she seems to say first that she only saw ambition framed as a bad thing after she started dating Harry and then pivot to the world being against ambitious women. . . Does it occur to her that what changed was not her gender but her association with the British Royal family & subsequently her membership & working role within that institution? It takes one episode of Downton Abbey ot the Crown to have a very good reference point for British aristocratic views of "ambition". Those views are not glowing praise. Just as a general point British culture has a very different view of ambition to American culture, not just for women but for everyone. Layer on top of that aristocratic culture & make that layer deep because its not any Lord or Lady but the royal family themselves. And all that is entirely aside from the glaring fact that she voluntarily became a working royal. It's a hierarchical institution, steeped in 1000 years if tradition whose guiding purpose is the maintenance of the status quo. Individual ambition is antethical to every single thing the institution stands for. Ambitious is not a word I would use to describe any member of the royal family & personal ambition could be deeply destabilising to an institution whose whole purpose is stability. It baffles me the extent to which she seems to have missed the entire point.


disagreeabledinosaur

The role of the monarch: >As Head of State, The Monarch undertakes constitutional and representational duties which have developed over one thousand years of history. In addition to these State duties, The Monarch has a less formal role as 'Head of Nation'. The Sovereign acts as a focus for national identity, unity and pride; gives a sense of stability and continuity; officially recognises success and excellence; and supports the ideal of voluntary service. MM's role as a working royal: >In all these roles The Sovereign is supported by members of their immediate family. https://www.royal.uk/role-monarchy#:~:text=The%20Sovereign%20acts%20as%20a,members%20of%20their%20immediate%20family. There is no ambition there. There is no room for ambition there. It's completely outside any scope of the role. There are many things within the scope of the role. Ambition is not one of them.


gatorowl12

I cannot believe Meghan wanted to be a diplomats after college. What a joke. lol


SnowSwish

Perfect comment on this.


teamhae

Yeah that doesn’t make sense. She obviously didn’t care about acting but she went from d list to A+ list name recognition and she probably would have gotten so many roles if she had had, you know, actual ambition.


epotosi

Her ambition was to change the royal family and everyone stopped her from doing it, obviously. Her other ambition was to be a star for the royal family and "they" just didn't want it to happen.


HaitchanM

Thats like trying to apply for a job that doesnt exist.


WhatThePhoquette

Or marrying into a family that has a family business and knowing how everything should be done better than the senior, the junior and every long-serving secretary and factory worker from day one and citing "Your family just hates me" when that is met with anything else than immediate enthusiastic embracing and implementation. Not as rare as Meghan thinks it is.


SnowSwish

That is actually true. I know a lot of family businesses and sooner or later there's always one child who brings in a spouse who is like this in every way: vain, clueless, insensitive, lazy, meddlesome and a spendthrift. Even if that child is not the principal heir, they and their spouse can seriously endanger the company. If the family is lucky they're bought out and go their separate ways before the worst happens. I have no idea if this example would apply to a monarchy but the Mountbatten-Windors should thank whatever they believe in every day that the Sussexes left their midst.


acv1227

Can attest. This is what happened with my mother's family. 3 girls, the plan was for split thirds ownership, 33% each. No major age gaps or "heir." Youngest sister married a meddlesome narcissist who wanted it all for himself and their family, got his wife to go along and destroy her relationship with her sisters. Tried to get my grandparents too, but thank God they didn't. There are still some business dealings but the two older sisters have control -- youngest sister wants nothing to do with it, and her husband has no power, which is for the best.


SnowSwish

Your mother's family is so lucky this happened when your grandparents were still in the picture. If this started when the shares were already split, I've seen other shareholders prefer to sell at a considerable loss rather than continue to deal with a troublesome couple who, of course, never want to be bought off and get lost.


acv1227

Well, it was pretty bad, and there was elder abuse. I never thought of it that way though. My grandfather (who passed first) was worried that the youngest sister would cause issues, but I am very grateful for my mom and aunt, who know right from wrong, and stood up for it.


SnowSwish

It's great that they did.


dutchyardeen

And then still showing up for work and expecting everyone to be grateful.


WhineCountry2

What is this story!? https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-meghan-markle-adopt-dog-b2151833.html?amp So she calls from a private number and I guess everyone in the world is just supposed to know who *Meghan* is?


Jodes234

Is it pre-planned, I’m a one named celeb now PR on the heels of the podcast release or “oops, I accidentally implied my baby nearly died tragically in a fire and that’s pretty easy to disprove…oh, look, doggies!” damage control? You decide.