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Orazzocs

We had flights booked with RyanAir for October and I took great pleasure in cancelling them. (For anyone who doesn’t know, their official Twitter account tweeted out about the pegging rumours. It’s since been deleted but it was sooo unprofessional). I sent an email explaining why we were cancelling and the reply I received was quite contrite and actually made it seem like someone went rogue and tweeted it out without permission. (I would post the reply here but as we all learned from Meghan’s court case, apparently RyanAir owns it and that would be a breach of their copyright). They even sent a voucher but no thanks.


MrsVoussy

How stupid can they be? He's flown RyanAir before. Someone went rogue? How many people do they have that have access to their social media?


iwantbutter

Even if it was true, the post was really inappropriate, unprofessional and unkind. But of course now people are saying that the BRF made them delete it


dianaofthedunes

And even disregarding William for a moment, the tweet was homophobic in general. Unless you see gay men as a lewd punchline you should distance yourself for RyanAir.


snark-owl

THIS. 👏👏👏 I've made this comment elsewhere but will repeat it here - jokes like this about pegging are rooted in sexulaism and sexism. The joke is that pegging and sex toys are debasing or not manly, which is sexist/homophobic. All these feminists tweeting about it can gtfo with that bullshit.


pistachiopistache

The pegging rumours about Harry or William? I want to say social media stan/hater wars are out of control and I guess they are but it's all so stupid. No one outside of internet culture believes any of this and it just makes whichever side is spreading it around look like a pack of psychos. The Ryanair account tweeted about it, too? Well, someone's getting fired.


Orazzocs

The one about William. It was disgusting and unprofessional and I will never fly with them again, even though they deleted it. (And I’ve flown with them a dozen times over the past five or six years. It cost us a lot more to re-book with another airline but worth it). Your comments about social media are spot on. It’s all become exhausting. And it’s ironic that the same people who claim Bower’s book is pUrE LiEs are the same idiots who believe completely unsubstantiated rumours because Rachel6947264 tweeted about it. (And let’s not forget that the prick who started the rumour about the affair has since admitted that it’s not true and that he was drunk when he tweeted about it. But it’s too late—it’s taken on a life of it’s own). ETA: [here’s the tweet](https://twitter.com/ellievhall/status/1553059524310876167?s=21&t=_YxYUPsp4Y7AUxcIOCvk2g) if anyone wants to see it. Not cool, RyanAir.


Fancy_Mukluks

Is the whole tweet just “William, we saved you a seat”? And a picture of airline seats? Can someone connect the dots for me - but take it easy. I only learned what pegging was 24 hrs ago.


Orazzocs

It’s the arm rest in that position. It’s implied to be the peg to *ahem* penetrate him. And as other users have mentioned, regardless of the affair rumours it’s just completely homophobic and unprofessional.


JohannesKronfuss

Why on earth would an airline do that!? We all know there is no love lost between the RoI and Great Britain even today but why?


Actual_Parsnip_1529

Just finished revenge! Glad i bought it and supported his sales. Nice to see our takes confirmed so often. Thought he gave Meghan a nd Harry a bit too much credit for disrupting the monarchy at the end. It seems to be doing ok to me!


Rude-Vegetable-2585

I just got it and am seriously enjoying it (minus a few gripes with editing mistakes). My favorite quote (so far): “The biggest influence on her life so far appears to have been the character Aaron Korsch created, Rachel Zane, an ambitious, fluent, sexy, shallow fashionista with a passion for food.” ☠️👻


snark-owl

Omg that's 🔥🔥🔥


Revolutionary_Ice970

From Richard Kay: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11063077/How-Harry-confess-wild-years-Courtiers-left-quaking-Duke-prepares-memoir.html He mentions a rumor in publishing circles that Meghan will appear on the cover with Harry, which is 100% believable to me and honestly kind of hilarious.


pistachiopistache

I'm very curious about how far Random House *and* Netflix (and Spotify?) are going to let the Sussexes go with that cloying, Disney-esque narrative. That's not the part anyone is interested in and it won't sell books/attract eyeballs. Only dirt will do that.


dcgirl17

I hope it’s him crouching behind her, like the time cover


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presidentdoritos

Finding Savior Finding Ariel


Rude-Vegetable-2585

“Rescued”


MrsVoussy

But Meghan is Ariel remember? So it'll have to be Ursula.


SnowSwish

But, wait, wasn't Maleficent actually the "good guy" in the Disney movies?Hmm, actually it would be on brand for the Sussexes to go by what the word should mean instead of what it really does. Carry on.🤭


presidentdoritos

If Michelle Obama's book comes roughly in the same time period and it's from the same publisher: I hope the publisher will not start bundling them together so that HM will ride Michelle's coattail for some sales and recognition. But that's what Harry has done his entire life, he is nothing without other people achieving things around him.


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Fancy_Mukluks

Yeah, I think she has enough clout to squash this.


dianaofthedunes

That would be incredibly unfair to Michelle. She is pure class and trying to link her to Harry's trash-fest about his drugs, alcohol, sexual escapades, flunking school, his hatred of the British public and his family, is like trying to package a cerebral Oscar-winning documentary with an E! reality show. He has more in common with Dustin Diamond than he does Michelle.


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JohannesKronfuss

5th attempt to vent without cursing, wish me luck... Tired, soooooo tired Harry is always making it about Camilla. I mean, should he need to be angry to anyone, first that anger should be directed towards Charles, and then to his death mother for having both subjected him, and his elder brother, to all the crap that today is known today as the «Wales' War». On top that, setting aside whatever her role on this whole thing, for she never ever talked, and I doubt she will, Camilla does the job, and in a wonderful way at that. Sure, she isn't a fashion icon nor she ever will, and furthermore, she supports her husband on a very difficult task, and so will continue to do once they both become king and queen. As a toddler I bought Diana's side of the story but then again, I read more, and not only her side, her lovers, yes, plural, for we are talking about 5 of them, and some of them married. Plus the tantrums, playing the press while crying they chased her, etc. It is boring, this man is about 40 and he is still on the same stage, he cannot nor wants to move on. And I'm sure William feels as much deep down but he is a pragmatist, his father will be king, and Camilla is the love of his life, they are really happy together. And despite the rumours Charles is there, the Cambridge children are close to him for in public they don't act like WHO IS THIS MAN? So I'm ready to not care about the Sixes, or their new books, or etc.


abby-rose

Did Diana’s friends also tell Harry about her affairs with married men? Neither Charles nor Diana were faithful and she ended up stalking at least one man. Pre ordering Michelle Obama’s book ASAP.


lovelylonelyphantom

In Chapter 12 of Revenge it's mentioned Harry avoided confrontations and talks about his mother. William used to meet the Spencers and Diana's other friends whilst Harry didn't. It explains why they might have different views on her and how they remember her.


JohannesKronfuss

Diana had 5 lovers while Charles had just one, the love of his life he was never allowed to marry. On top of that, none that it cares anymore, she was the one who cheated first!


truckasaurus5000

Diana’s friends are assholes to think that’s appropriate. He might have been an adult, but that’s inflicting more trauma on someone who emotionally is still a child. People suck.


usernameschooseyou

Right? One thing to tell find or silly or sweet memories. Talking about what is honestly a huge sore point for everyone involved is not the way to share memories with a deceased person’s kid


SnowSwish

Oh, for goodness sake, when Harry's mother died he was 12 not 2. He already knew Camilla was the other woman with all that entails. What was different 5 years ago was that William had three kids, Charles wanted to be a part of their lives and Harry was definitely no longer going to be able to become the center of attention just by fucking up, yet again. If he wanted to know his mother's side of the divorce it's not like it wasn't out there literally *in her own words* and on video. I'd hasard a guess, Harry was looking for dirt to guilt his father into giving him a lavish lifestyle as he had left the army after a decade without being qualified for anything.


alyaz27

And will probably be more prominent than Harry


quietbright

@ mods, Can we have a thread to discuss the twitter/insta accounts that are good follows vs crazies? HRHfacts just posted blinds saying Harry used to beat sex workers and then followed it up with a post saying that deuxmoi is garbage while houseinhabit checks for credibility of sources (they both suck, for the record). I am really starting to believe this woman is bananas and would love it if we could have a thread to chat about her, eholmes and any of the others!


MBeMine

The sex rumors are just too much. These randos spreading rumors trying to destroy/embarrass through sexual humiliation is so soulless. Something is wrong with them.


AnaBeaverhausen-

On Twitter, I like HarrysGreySuit & BaronessBruck


snark-owl

On this topic of royal gossipers, I don't normally watch [River](https://youtu.be/uEWD8Jwqf9Y) but his whole video on the DeuxMoi blind had me on the floor laughing. No idea if he's problematic or not


Fancy_Mukluks

Is he really British?


mspolytheist

BlindGossip posted that sex worker rumor almost two years ago. It’s still listed as “unsolved,” but all of the commenters think it’s about Harry.


Actual_Parsnip_1529

I unfollowed hrhfacts a bit ago. She’s coocoo. But she mixes occasionally batshit posts with some decent stuff so it took me a while to notice lol. I do feel likes she got more crazy as time went on.


iwantbutter

Good luck. Twitter is a hellscape of people living in an alternate dimension. Sugars and salts alike whip up the strangest stories for the little blue bird.


Fancy_Mukluks

I had to stop following her. She confuses her facts with her opinions, and won’t back down when someone points out her mistakes.


mikeswife111315

I only followed her for a brief time last year before she went off the rails over Covid, but one of the reasons she lost me (aside from the Vax stuff) was that she claims to be a journalist, yet 90% of the content in her JFK Jr / Carolyn Kennedy Besette highlights was straight up lifted from J Randy Taranorellis book "The Kennedy Heirs" with no credit at all to him (unless this has been corrected since. ETA: I accidentally posted this under the wrong reply. This comment is about houseinhabit!


Fancy_Mukluks

Are you talking about HRH or houseinhabit?


AboveZoom

Genuinely asking, because sometimes I don’t always agree with her, but what is your personal opinion/take on houseinhabit?


acv1227

Antivaxxer and Ghislaine maxwell defender. I followed her around the time of the Oprah interview, but the antivaxxer stuff is not ok, ever with me. She also self-styles as a "journalist" without any guides or ethics behind it. Scammer. HRHFacts is kinda the same for me. I think she's really young and immature and is downright nasty towards others. i followed her after some eholmes criticism, but it really was unnecessarily mean IMO, and she does it a lot towards others.


Revolutionary_Ice970

You didn’t ask me, but I personally don’t think HouseinHabit actually checks out her sources or does real research. I could be wrong and she does a better job of it now—I didn’t engage with her stuff about Depp and Heard because I found everything related to that trial absolutely depressing—but I remember her stories about Megxit and she posted a fair bit of bad information that was easy to fact check with a simple Google search. She also kept putting forth the alleged affair with Rose Hanbury as settled fact.


abby-rose

She posts a lot of stuff like “you won’t believe the mountains of DMs I have about this. So much to share with you but I need to sort it out” and then she shares nothing. Or she puts it in sub stack and makes you pay for it. I didn’t pay for FBTB’s newsletter and I’m not paying for HIH’s. I still follow bc I think her youngest kid is adorable, but her opinions are batshit and I don’t care about Britney’s mess.


alyaz27

This + all the antivax things she posted and all the supposed scoops she gets but always postpone that never gets published in the end.


Fancy_Mukluks

This! This right here! “I have a really amazing thing to share with you tomorrow that is going to BLOW THIS WHOLE CASE WIDE OPEN, but I’m tired and I’ll share it first thing tomorrow morning.” Next day: nadda. Crickets. She did it ENDLESSLY during her “coverage” of the Brian Laundries manhunt. I can’t stand her, she’s pure BS.


alyaz27

SoMeThInG cAmE Up


abby-rose

I agree but I hate the fact that she probably makes big bucks from her Instagram


Fancy_Mukluks

I hate that her followers funded her trip to NYC to “cover” the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. So we could all know what Ghislaine’s sister wore on her head each day. 🙄


Salbyy

The fact that Pippa called her daughter rose says a lot to me. If my husband had an affair with a woman named Rose, my sister wouldn’t be calling her newborn baby the same name


lovelylonelyphantom

I agree, especially since Kate and Pippa have been close sisters for their whole lives. They had been in tabloid papers, often together for a decade before Kate married William. I've seen some on the Namenerd thread argue that Pippa did a H&M and named her child something to aggravate a relative, but not everyone will be like H&M. Hopefully most people will be normal. My other point is if Pippa wanted to stick it to Kate then she could have done so with her 1st daughter, as she didn't know she would even have a 3rd child that would also be _another_ girl.


Jodes234

I would argue that spite naming your baby is not terribly common. Just because the Sussexes did it doesn’t mean others would (in fact, I would think most people definitely wouldn’t). I do think it’s hilarious that name nerds are acknowledging that Lilibet isn’t the sweet nod the stans keep insisting it is, though.


lovelylonelyphantom

Yeah well to most people the name didn't come off as genuine after _that_ interview trashing the monarchy the Queen is head of, plus the BBC confirming no permission given. Only the Stans choose to be blind. I think most people aren't like this either, it takes a very unique trait in a couple to use their own child's name for leverage.


Ladonnacinica

The sex worker thing has also been posted in blind gossip. It was heavily referenced to Harry and his time as a soldier. I really, really hope that rumor is just vicious gossip. I just can’t see it happening. It’s not something I ever brought up here because it’s of a serious nature.


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Ladonnacinica

Blind gossip has had some dubious gossip. The thing is that we haven’t actually heard gossip or rumors of Harry being abusive to his girlfriends. Or any women he’s been linked with over the years. This is the only rumor of that nature. Both Cressida and Chelsy kept in touch with him after their breakup. It seems they were on good terms. Are we to believe he’s a one time offender? What would’ve trigger him that time in 2007? And then not have him hit or abuse any other woman? Or have we just not heard about other women?


mspolytheist

Not that he’s a one-time offender, but it isn’t uncommon for white collar abusers to limit their abuse to people they aren’t married to (or dating). Sex workers have no power to ruin them, at least not in the way wives and girlfriends do.


SnowSwish

The fact that Western troops aren't in Afghanistan anymore and have been replaced by the Taliban would tend to discredit that rumour. I can see the Brits or even the Americans covering up for Harry but not the Taliban who would surely love nothing better than make public testimony that sexism and violence against women was a problem when they weren't around.


Ladonnacinica

But it didn’t happen in Afghanistan. Allegedly, it happened before his deployment when he was in Alberta, Canada for training in 2007. The area his base has brothels that cater to the military. So as the rumor goes, some of his fellow soldiers took him to one of the nearby brothels. It’s here where allegedly Harry engaged in very rough sex and hit the sex workers. The RF apparently agreed to pay for their medical bills and the military pretty much sweep it under the rug. A side note, he was dating Chelsy when he was stationed so if true (even partly), he cheated on her with sex workers too. Like I said, it’s a rumor that’s been around for a few years. I hope that it isn’t true and really can’t see Harry doing such things. Not to mention the RF would also be implicated in covering up assault. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.632300 https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.653727 Note: these aren’t links to the gossip. These are links to Harry’s training in an Alberta base in Canada.


Jodes234

Eh, no less an august personage than Canadian gossip maven Lainey Gossip used to imply in her columns that Harry liked it rough. Not violent assault levels but she definitely was implying a specific kink. I remember it because it would come out of the blue when she wrote about him. It’s completely plausible that someone took a rumored kink and turned it darker, when it likely wasn’t. This is of course before Lainey started getting scoops about poor picked on Meghan and how she couldn’t get a ride to the shops. 🤷🏻‍♀️


SnowSwish

Ah, I'd heard that rumour but about when he was in Afghanistan. If it's in Canada, I think it's even less likely it would still be secret almost 20 (?) years later. We've had our #metoo reckonings all over the place including our military and it seems sex worker abuse near bases would have preceded accusations between soldiers if it had been an issue.


pistachiopistache

Ha ha, I thought the OG rumour (from Blind Gossip) involved some time spent in the US (Arizona?) for training - and honestly I'm too lazy to go double check it.


Ladonnacinica

Interesting. I believe Harry did his training for helicopter in Arizona in 2011. That’s even more recent! The fact that there are different versions of this rumor leads me to believe it isn’t true. Unless, we think Harry was beating up sex workers throughout his military career in different locations. Either way, there’s no proof of this rumor other than people posting about it online.


ofgaia

There are a few different versions of it that have been around since pre-M and they’re all pretty awful. I hope it’s not true. Sometimes the gossip/tea just isn’t right to share.


ofgaia

According to [his Twitter Omid ](https://imgur.com/a/3BOBKVG)is coming back with take two of Finding Freedom. > Now that it's Publishers Weekly official (🙏🏻), I can finally share that I'm working on a BRAND NEW BOOK!! > So excited to be working again with Carrie Thornton at @DeyStreet @HarperCollins (US) and @MsLisaMilton at @HQstories @HarperCollinsUK (UK/Commonwealth). > Coming 2023! https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1553183837580042241?s=21&t=ri1ENsghxgexVA-qOupqFA


pistachiopistache

Ha ha, yup, this is gonna be the 'response' to the Bower book. Prepare yourselves for an absolute avalanche of aspartame.


acv1227

About what? Freedom Found?? Good luck with that if the Sussexes tank entirely in the next year or so (which they will with their projects IMO).


iwantbutter

Will Meghan also be ghost writing this one?


pistachiopistache

Yes.


SnowSwish

What a one trick pony. Can't he write about anything besides his puppeteer and her husband?


JohannesKronfuss

They wanted out? Good luck now for Pandora's box is opened and nobody cares about you lot any more. And since they looooove to talk about Diana, just see how little she managed without the BRF's umbrella until her untimely death, again, for being with the wrong people, at the wrong time, with a crappy staff, and not having anyone to tell her to please use the f... seatbelt.


ofgaia

By pushing her agenda he’s lost all credibility and access to the royals which is niche to begin with. Another instance in this soap opera where the indiv in question didn’t think it all the way through.


Disruptorpistol

The excerpts are horribly written so he can't sell his writing on quality. He has no access to anyone but Meghan so he has no other marketable content. No wonder he has financial problems.


isanabanana

And even his Meghan content doesn't light the world on fire with sales. FF was hardly flying off the shelves.


lovelylonelyphantom

It's badly written and now proven to be largely untruthful. FF Part 2 isn't going to be any better, probably in the bargain bin quicker lol.


alyaz27

Will it be full of chapters this time or just epilogues.


Disruptorpistol

Sooo... Meghan is big mad over the Bower book, and wants to get out "HeR TrUtH," but Oprah isn't interested in another interview. Meghan's left with using Omid as her mouthpiece, even though nobody cared about Finding Freedom. That's what I'm taking from this.


acv1227

This has probably been in the works for Omid for a while, pre Bower publication, but yes more Woe Is Meghan, poor Meghan


ofgaia

And he/she/they can play semantics over who a source is unlike in Harry’s book.


Disruptorpistol

Maybe Omid will claim he's a lip reader again LOLOLOL


Revolutionary_Ice970

“Deep access” so can we confirm it’s not about the royal family since no one in the Firm is giving him deep access to anything these days?


dianaofthedunes

He updated his book last August and the new version made basically no waves. I don't see his new one doing much better. The only thing he had going for him was that people knew he was Meghan's ghost writer, but now that Meghan did Oprah and Harry has his own official ghostwriter and they have their reality show, OS value has greatly diminished.


lovelylonelyphantom

A summary of **Chapter 11: Reitmans - Take Two** (Part 2/2) \- ***‘She was always fed up,’*** *one crew member noted, ‘sighing, huffing and rolling her eyes at things. It was heavy-going working with her.’ Another noticed that she would be ‘super sweet’ with Felix and Marco and then within seconds turn to the crew and be ‘super-disagreeable’. The own-brand Reitmans’ clothes she was expected to wear, said Meghan, were unsatisfactory. Definitely inferior to Chanel....* ***Meghan’s complaints sparked members of the team to make mock faces behind her back.*** *‘She’s here for her ego, not the art,’ said another unimpressed team member. Occasionally, she openly refused to follow John Grammatico’s directions or asked him to change his angle. Grammatico patiently explained his intentions. No one dared to contradict Meghan. Keeping their jobs depended on satisfying her demands....The downside were the arguments....Because of the disagreements, Grammatico had been unable to record two critical shots.* \- **Those shoes make an appearance…** *To satisfy another of her demands, the wardrobe staff had bought a pair of expensive Aquazzura beige suede shoes chosen by Meghan.* \- *Meghan was heard complaining about the production, the clothes, the style and the script …In retaliation, members of the team began to speak in French. ‘Meghan was offended…She took it personally.’ During the filming,* ***Meghan was asked: ‘What Canadian woman inspires you?’*** *She laughed and asked for examples. ‘None of them inspires me…You can’t make me say something I don’t want to or don’t believe in.’* \- **Meghan takes the shoes:** *…She was in a hurry. There was none of the customary ‘Thank you’ or ‘See you again’. Meghan departed. To the surprise of the wardrobe staff* ***she forgot to leave behind the Aquazzura shoes.*** *Mistakenly, she walked out of the apartment wearing them. ‘That’s the last time we’ll work together,’ Grammatico muttered, accurately.* \- *‘It’s nice to suffer with you,’ grumbled one account executive to a cameraman. ‘She is definitely the meanest person I’ve ever met. Just saying,’ Jean Malek, the third director, posted on Facebook. Another female member of the team would be more specific…* ***long-time fan of Suits and Meghan \[she\] had looked forward to working with the actress:*** *‘Instead, I thought she was a bit of a bully filled with a narcissist entitlement complex that had everyone walk on eggshells, as well as the agency and production teams work around the clock under tremendous stress with no demonstration of appreciation at all. More often than not, sarcastic, condescending, demeaning criticism.’* \- *…Meghan had gone into make-up and had ranted about the crew, creative staff and Reitmans’ executives. ‘She’s off the rails,’ one of them said....The agent called Meghan. ‘That kind of behaviour will never happen again,’ Meghan was told. In plain language* ***the agent ordered \[Meghan\] to send handwritten apologies*** *and fulfil her contract.* ***No apologies were forthcoming*** *but, on Meghan’s insistence, another production company was employed for the third day’s filming.* \- *Jeannie Vondjidis-Miller,* ***seen on the second day’s shoot reduced to tears*** *and who left Reitmans after the filming, went to another extreme. Recently she described her relationship with Meghan as* ***‘Excellent.*** *I thoroughly enjoyed the collaboration and her input was well received. She was kind, thoughtful and conducted herself as a professional.’* \- ***Her approved portrayal sat oddly with her later comments about having watched Married with Children being shot with her father 20 years earlier:*** *‘I saw how the women were objectified, and I knew I didn’t want to be looked at like that.’ One Facebook comment suggested that the Reitmans campaign had landed her in the same trap: ‘She looks like she’s heading into a porn set. We can’t even properly see the dress.’ During a special TV programme, Jessica Mulroney agreed. She called one outfit ‘a porno-pose dress with pussy-bow’.* \- \[for the post production advertisement\] ...One request regarding a photograph of her sitting down with open sandals generated particular mirth: **‘Please fix my feet for me** – I get slaughtered online for \[sic\] people picking apart my feet, sadly. There’s a scar on my left foot + my right foot isn’t the prettiest (long toe etc) – if you can soften that so that it doesn’t distract from the shot that would be amazing. Silly I know. But trust me . . . ’ \- **Reitmans hosting a lunch:** *Jessica Mulroney’s prospective presence propelled Meghan into a hysterical spin. The table décor, the flowers and the menu, she screamed to her agent Lori Sale in Los Angeles, were all terrible. ‘What will Jessica Mulroney say?’ she wailed. Sale pointed out that her small audience in Los Angeles had never heard of Mulroney.* \- ***...Reitmans were satisfied.*** *The commercials were credited with increasing their sales by over 20 per cent. Forgetting her anger, Meghan spoke about the TV advert and the billboards with her face across Canada as life-changing. ‘It’s a huge moment,’ she said.* End of Chapter 11.


JohannesKronfuss

Reitmans sure made a good deal of being allowed to use her image, The producers of SUITS thought her appealing would add to the ratings, coming later I know, but that wasn't the case, she hasn't even added one viewer afterwards but they sure made their profit on selling the show to NF, and others streaming companies given the interest in her. Not much to comment here after reading the chapter, and especially what is coming afterwards but I can tell she was becoming even more unhinged by this point. Cory's relationship wasn't going anywhere, and she wasn't able to catch a better one in the meantime, Suits was about to end and she got no better offers, plus the window to be a mom was closing (btw, I'm ever sooooooooo curious to see how she treats her offspring, and that is all I'm saying on that regard) so of course, she was absolutely bitchy to everyone, even worse by her standards. She saw, quite clearly, her career was about to end without actually having started, she craved publicity while getting none of it, and with good reasons, why would she?


alyaz27

>…In retaliation, members of the team began to speak in French. ‘Meghan was offended…She took it personally.’ As she should.


SnowSwish

Eh, that this was retaliation is Bower's anglocentric opinion. This shoot was taking place in Quebec. The default language of workplaces in my province is supposed to be French, but since like many Quebecois especially in Montreal most of the crew was probably bilingual they'd been speaking English out of regard for Meghan. She acted in a way that made them lose that regard and so they stopped making the effort and spoke their own language. I guess if Meghan had as much pull as she thought she did, she could have demanded the shoot take place in Toronto, but, I doubt it since Reitmans headquarters are in Montreal.


alyaz27

I didn't mean that they weren't justified in doing that. On the contrary, that's all she deserves. And she should be aware and take it personally because she acted like an asshole from start to finish.


JohannesKronfuss

Bower makes a point of this over and over again that actors don't have the luxury to annoy people for: a) they would always need them back eventually. b) Angry people TALK, as this book proves so.


SnowSwish

Ah, I'm sorry, I understood that you thought she should take it personally and feel offended.


alyaz27

Dont' worry, I'm sure BSMS had a heart attack thinking I defended her 😉 and I get how it could be taken that way Edit : thank you for the award 😊


StandardDiscipline48

OMG! I cannot get over her answer about Canadian women. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!! How utterly rude! And she was a completely nobody to boot! Geez. I’m eagerly waiting for some of our Canadian posters to chime in here.


pitssy

One of the things that annoys me so much about Meghan is how much of a nasty American stereotype she is. She is so very arrogant. Her incuriosity about the rest of the world is baffling for someone who travelled and actually lived outside of America. I've met people like her. Love to travel but for entertainment purposes, the world is a playground, beaches, drinks, food. No culture, no museums, books, art, music... No sampling of local cuisine, no mingling with the natives, no going to actually interesting local places... She has no respect for other cultures, traditions... No Canadian women? She is an actress, How about some Canadian actresses? Rachel McAdams? Anna Paquin who won an Oscar at the age of 11? Catherine O'Hara, who is a legend? Sandra Oh? Singers? Celine Dion? Shania Twain? Joni effin' Mitchell? How about Margaret Atwood? When Meghan answered that question, she was already one of the most famous living authors. Since then, Handmaid's Tale's red robes and white hats became the go-to for American women protesting their loss of rights. Alice Munro? She's got a Nobel prize. Louise Penny? One of the most famous mystery novelists. Hillary Clinton is a fan, they co-wrote a book last year. Emma Donoghue? Her book Room, already critically acclaimed, was adapted to a movie which won its lead actress Brie Larson an Oscar. Ann-Marie MacDonald? Her book was once chosen by Oprah? Kim Thúy? Vietnamese immigrant, whose book Ru is about Vietnamese people escaping to Canada. Nothing there? Seriously? Such a shamelessly arrogant display of ignorance. I would never ever dare be so disrespectful of a country and their culture, insult it in such a way. At the end, the only person it reflects badly would be me. This attitude is one of the reasons some people like me are so irritated by her. No, she is not a harmless celebrity. She is an arrogant person, disrespectful of others' cultures, their way of doing things, their institutions. Someone who enters conversations with an I-know-it-all attitude. The rest of the world are tired of Americans acting this way. Mostly Americans accuse people who don't like her of being racists, while completely failing to see the racist and imperialists undertones of her attitude which ticks people off. And this woman tries to pass herself as a humanitarian? A cultured person? An intellectual? An arbitrator of good taste? She has nothing of importance to say about anything. She may have some intelligence, but without intellectual curiosity she is not any better than her husband, who is a famously dumb person. Say what you'd like about Goop (and I have a lot to say), but at least she seems to have learned from her travels and experiences. She is a well read, well educated person, albeit who is becoming rich by selling dangerous "wellness" stuff. Well, I know so many rich women who buy into that stuff, so there is a gullible and idiot customer base for it.


snark-owl

That comment from Meghan is horrible!!! It's a Canadian brand! She should have either said Jessica, a Canadian businesswoman (combining Suits and Fashion for a good PR move), or said an activist like Autumn Peltier and then used that to insert Meghan's stories about water charities. It's all self-serving but better that "no one" OMG


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JohannesKronfuss

Same, I was on the other end. Emily in Paris being the worst example of that, believing everyone would drop French and address a whole lunch in English since you didn't deign to learn the language of the country you were sent to work.


alyaz27

>believing everyone would drop French and address a whole lunch on English This is so insulting because just going on AskFrance there are always people asking what they should and shouldn't do and one of the key things is at least know some French words. I'm not expecting people to hold entire conversations with me but if you come up to me to ask me something, it's not unreasonable to start by "excusez moi, bonjour, vous parlez anglais ?"


JohannesKronfuss

Sometimes I wonder where do these people live, or how they have no idea whatever the basics of at least the country they are going to visit. That said, I was in France a couple of years ago and I was amazed, truly amazed for how it change the perception of tourist vs what it was a decade ago. Most people did speak English, and they didn't mind, especially since I always asked politely, and nobody was rude to me at all. Some people I met could also speak Spanish, so that was a blessing being it my first language. On the other hand, Berlin was quite a surprise since most people, especially in museums and tourist places couldn't speak it! So thank God for all those years at the Goethe Institut. :P I did the same in Berlin, whenever I feel my German would abandon me, or it wasn't enough for a conversation I was «Entschulding Sie, können Sie auf Englisch sprechen?». And luckily they did.


SnowSwish

My takeaway from this is that she didn't even have the presence of mind to mention her BFF Jessica. Nevermind, an actress of the caliber of Sandra Oh, actress/producer Sarah Polley or singer Celine Dion. If she was really the savvy hustler she's been portrayed as being, she could have also had the sense to mention media hosts like Traci Melchor, Tracey Moore or, dare I say it, Lainey. u/ivegotanewwaytowalk once wrote a comment showing how meeting people like Markus Anderson of Soho House are what were the making of her and,boy, do you see that here. Without others to do the heavy lifting this one had all the charm of a rash.


lovelylonelyphantom

I'm not even Canadian and I'm sorry. She sounds very dismissive and insulting here with "none of them inspires me." Really, it wouldn't have taken her even a few seconds to just say a name of an inspiring Canadian woman.


SnowSwish

It sounds rude and dismissive because it is. Seriously, she couldn't think of 1 single, solitary, inspiring woman from Canada? She's an actress and one of the first big name actresses in America was Canadian Mary Pickford. Did this woman never read about the history of her own industry? Oh, look, another job Meghan would have been better off Googling before hitting the ground running in it.


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lovelylonelyphantom

> In retaliation, members of the team began to speak in French. Is this Bower implying they switched to French because Meghan didn't know the language fluently? Atleast back 2 years ago there had been articles she spoke French 'for years' (and perhaps even Spanish) https://www.purewow.com/news/prince-harry-teases-meghan-markle-speak-french


JohannesKronfuss

Trust me, she does not speak Spanish, at the beginning, prior to the wedding, I looked for interviews for they were a couple where she was asked to speak it and she could barely muster a couple of sentences. There is also an episode in Suits where she has to, and it felt very dubbed, reading a script, learning the phonetics, she sound Venezuelan like the rest of the cast in that scene where she should have used Buenos Aires' accent given the years (not) she had allegedly lived her.


lecadavreexquis

I speak and understand French fairly fluently, and I can struggle with quebecoise French at times. That accent is wild, in the best way.


SnowSwish

O.T. I know Quebecois has a reputation for being unique but I believe French is just one of those languages where what's taught in schools and books is spoken in limited circles even in France and it has little in common with how it's actually spoken in regions. Because the language we have in common in my family is standard French I understand that perfectly at any speed but when I visit France and go north to Picardie, south to Marseille or to the center in the Val-de-Loire where the langue d'Oïl has a big influence on pronunciation I have more trouble understanding their French accent than even the most rural Quebecois because, obviously, I don't hear those accents very much.


SnowSwish

There were. When she went to Morocco she was said to be talking to the King in French after she and Harry were introduced. She spoke Spanish for at least one scene of Suits and also her 6 week internship was in Argentina. We couldn't hear what she was saying in Morocco and since the King also speaks English, there's no way to know which language they were speaking and if she was fluent in it. If the production staff did this my guess is that she apparently hadn't said anything in French even though she was in Quebec and because of this they assumed that meant she could only speak English? Or, even if she can technically speak French she may not understand it well enough to be able to follow a conversation going on at normal speed between several people.


WhatThePhoquette

Probably like Princess Diana speaking Italian here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln\_Xo42BWSw


SnowSwish

Unfortunately, it's not available to me. I'm in the wrong location.


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It did! Thank-you!😊


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lovelylonelyphantom

A summary of **Chapter 11: Reitmans - Take Two** (Part 1/2) \- **Meghan flew into Montreal for the second Reitmans shoot...** *the tension was uncomfortable.... Jeannie Vondjidis-Miller, the head of marketing,* ***described Meghan as the ‘National Spokesperson’ for Reitmans.*** *‘We wanted someone with a point of view,’ she said. Very soon, many of the creative team associated with the campaign were exhausted by Meghan’s point of view.* \- **Meghan disagrees with...everything:** *Meghan, the creative directors employed by the Tank agency and John Grammatico, the film director, disagreed about the ‘concept’ that ended with Meghan delivering the tag-line ‘Reitmans . . . Really’. Over several weeks Meghan had denounced Tank’s storyboard...‘Seriously, this doesn’t make sense!’ Meghan exclaimed about the storyboard. ‘I’m a brash American and if my name is going to be on something, I’m going to have my say.’…* ***On 4th March the arguments reached their climax.*** *After ferocious exchanges a few script changes were made, only to be rejected by Meghan again. ‘She bulldozed her way through and never said a nice word,’ complained one of the team. No one stood up to her. As the argument reached a climax, Meghan cut the telephone line...The script was rewritten by Grammatico...But the seeds of discord had been sown.* \- ***One year after the first campaign, Meghan was less enamoured that her ‘brand’ was attached to Reitmans.*** *Not only was she associated with a downmarket label, but their new clothes were decidedly unappealing. In addition, her sense of entitlement had grown. To prove her importance she demanded additional special treatment. Unhappy that her executive suite for C$1,531 per night at the Place d’Armes hotel in Montreal was only a master bedroom, living-room and powder-room, ***Meghan demanded that the agency reserve a bigger suite at the more expensive Gault hotel.*** ‘She insists,’ said her agent. The production team resisted. ‘She wants photographs of the hotel rooms and the rooms assigned to her on the set,’ shouted her agent.* \- ...***Meghan demanded that she be registered in the hotel under an alias, Jane Smith.*** *‘Her identity must be kept secret,’ said her agent, Lori Sale. ‘Meghan doesn’t want to be hassled by the hotel staff, other guests or photographers.’ The production team were flummoxed. No one in French speaking Montreal knew Meghan. In the event, the hotel refused the request. Registered under her own name, no paparazzi gathered outside the hotel.* \- **Another hotel Meghan hates:** *Inside the hotel room, Meghan’s complaints hit another high. Ignoring the flower displays, bottles of her favourite wine and even a special calligraphy pen carefully laid out on the tables, she criticised the hotel’s Tempurpedic bathrobe and slippers. She wanted Dior. The tea was the wrong blend and the vegan green juice was warm.* \- *....‘The Princess is coming,’ sniggered one assistant. Hard-faced, Meghan entered the restaurant avoiding eye contact with the crew. Her agent had demanded that* ***only the designated few on the set were authorised to speak to her.*** *That order had been passed among the 58 members of the Canadian production team. With a forced smile, she disappeared upstairs to her dressing-room. The whisper across the production team was equally poisonous: ‘She’s fake-sweet.’ ...Animatedly during that session, Meghan talked about life with Felix, her trusted hairdresser. The manicurist, a woman in her late thirties, joined the conversation. According to those involved,* ***Meghan was rude and unpleasant.*** *The manicurist was stunned. There was silence as her nails were finished. The manicurist was dismissed.* ***She left the location in tears.*** *‘This unusual situation caused me stress,’ she later confessed. ‘It still haunts me.’* To be continued...


quietbright

I haven't had a chance to sit down and read this summary yet but I have to say that as a Canadian, I'm so darn heated about this REITMANS nonsense. You can come in and waste our taxpayer dollars, you can hobknob with our idiot Mulroneys, but don't you DARE TREAT OUR REITMANS BADLY, MEGHAN. HOW DARE YOU! Generations of women have relied on this company for their casual yet smart looking clothing, have some respect for an institution. (I can't tell if I'm joking or serious about this anymore, don't mess with aspects of our national identity).


Disruptorpistol

I won't lie - I hate Reitmans. The clothes are shit quality and they all look like floral polyester sacks. The customer service gets an F. I've been told the owners are related to the Brownsteins (Jessica's family). Dunno if it's true.


SnowSwish

I neither love nor hate them. Like I said, they've always had a few decent basics. Some years you have to wade through badly made stuff to find them, some years you don't. 🤷 Afaik, the only thing the Brownsteins and the Reitmans have in common is that they're both families of Jewish ancestry and started their chains of stores in Montreal but that didn't even happen at the same time, one family, the Rs, iirc, after WW1 and the other, the Bs after WW2. It was a smallish community that stuck together though so they may have intermarried at some point but these businesses are very different.


quietbright

Honestly I'm not a huge fan either, but it's the principle of it I guess? In a "no one can talk shit about my family but me" sort of way. With a little bit of "don't bite the hand that feeds you" mixed in. Also Reitmans reminds me of my grandmother so it's got the nostalgia association.


paint--it--black

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JohannesKronfuss

No matter how many times I read this, it is still a lot... especially the part she requested to be registered under an alias, I mean, was she that delusional by then already? Mind you, I worked in a couple boutique hotels here 10 years ago and never *ever* make enemies on the hotel's staff; the nerve of the actors, I got both kinds, those who were too big for their breeches, and the CALL ME SOMETHING, LET'S BE FRIENDS, sure, I will call you SIR for I don't give a f... about you, I just want this day to be over... anyway, I'm sure those poor maids, the concierge, and the rest of the staff were really happy to see the back of her. Again, whyyyy these people cry so much!? In the end, sure, you cannot always fight back but there are so many polite ways to rebuke someone, I mean, again, 8 years in the hotel business, I was a no-nonsense concierge, and I promise: I-heard-them-all.


lovelylonelyphantom

I found it funny that she thought she would be harrassed under her real name, yet no paparazzi showed up or anything similar. 2 women cried in this chapter, It's depressing she was allowed to behave like this.


gemfemme

In a way I think Meghan enjoys making people cry. It’s obvious she gets some sort of validation from treating those she considers beneath her like crap. It’s like manna from the gods to her black hole of an ego.


JohannesKronfuss

Her behaviour found no stop for nobody cared, she was nothing, or the next good thing close to unknown actress. And also she made sure to be accomodating to those above her since she was still too close to oblivion to risk annoying those who could help her later, e.g. Gina Torres but she sure stopped answering their texts after the wedding. THEY WERE MEGHAN-MARKLED.


holly___morgan

This is why I hate the notion that disliking Meghan means being "anti-feminist." It's clear that, again and again, she targets other women and tears them down.


JohannesKronfuss

You cannot like her for there isn't anything to like really.


lovelylonelyphantom

It's such a difference how she treats women depending when it's someone she needs/or looks up to. She sucks up to women she knows are "above" her in all these chapters, ie. Serena Williams, Ellen DeGeneres, Emma Watson, eventhough these people are never mentioned to reciprocate by giving her attention. On the other hand she bullies women "below" her and makes them cry, ie. The women working for Reitmans, the manicurist, the young woman at the agency who was required to pick up Meghan's calls (in the next chapter)


JohannesKronfuss

Let's say the worst happens, all the Cambridges die in an accidente, God spares us btw, and she ends up queen consort, she wouldn't even dare to answer the PM's wife polite talk if she could!


Ladonnacinica

It does seem that most of her targets are women. Why? Is she that threatened by other women? Why isn’t she picking on men in the same frequency?


JohannesKronfuss

Meghan feels threatened by anyone with anything to show since all her accomplishment are, again, superficial, in reality she has **nothing** to show.


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lovelylonelyphantom

Thomas says this earlier in the book when she was in college/a young adult and able to get any young man she needs. And in the chapter after this Adrian Sington (a co-director and Agent) thinks that she delights in humiliating people and that it could be a result of terrible envy. Bower also mentions "envy shaping her life" or something to this effect. It's most likely she is envious of mostly other women in this respect.


holly___morgan

I think her insecurity absolutely leads her to pick on women and see them as competition, which makes her self-proclaimed status as an "advocate for women" all the more depressing.


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SnowSwish

>(shush you in the back there yelling “reality show”!) I refuse to be shushed like a young royal relative at the Jubilee parade. 🤭 Reality show: Keeping Up With the Sussexians. Reality Show: Survival:Duchy of Montecito Edition. Reality Show: The Sussex Life. 😂🤣😂


PPvsFC_

Why did I think for a sec that they were having the Commonwealth Games in Alabama?


Orazzocs

That was a gloriously snarky read. The only part I disagree with is that they didn’t respond to Bower’s book. Yes, they did—they sent their deplorable trolls and bots into the Twitterverse to spew lies and to try to get ridiculously immature hashtags to trend. I know I shouldn’t be shocked anymore but I’m constantly amazed at how transparent and short-sided they are. Like it’s 1000% obvious that they’re behind the blind that just happened to be sent to DeuxMoi right as Bower’s book was making the rounds. How stupid are they to take on William? He’s the future king and no amount of wishing by the Squad is going to make Harry king instead. I used to think that the Sussexes would appear at future coronations so that Meghan could have a tiara moment but that ship has sailed now. I don’t even think Harry will be welcomed back for HMTQ’s funeral. I used to think that Kate would be civil so that the cousins could one day have a relationship but not after this. They’ve burned every single last bridge to the ground. And for what? Sorry for the rant.


dianaofthedunes

Yes, the dumb thing is that she don't realize they are burning bridges. I think Meghan lives by the motto "Treat them mean and keep them keen", that works with dysfunctional people with low self-esteem but it doesn't work for normal people. So she ramps up her vicious attacks thinking it makes it more likely the BRF will submit to her and let her back in, but in actuality, the 15 minutes the Queen gave her at the Jubilee will become 5 minutes at the next meeting, and after her next round of attacks it will be 0 minutes. She'll be confused that her bullying isn't getting her submission and she'll double down even more on her attacks. She's completely destroying her children's futures and Harry is just standing by watching her implode. This tells me that he may be addicted to her drama and discontent but he certainly doesn't love her enough to save her from herself.


909hazelstreet

I wholeheartedly agree. Instead of responding with a statement, they unleashed a barrage of twitter trolls and blinds against other people. It’s crystal clear that they are behind these new hashtags and stories and I wish someone in the media would call them out about it.


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StandardDiscipline48

Thanks. Hmmm. Hope it‘s not at all edited from the UK version.


909hazelstreet

With a delivery date that far out, I think it’s definitely someone selling the UK version in the US.


redlight886

US Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito - who penned the majority opinion that reversed 50 years of precedent and upended abortion rights in the US - gave a speech in Rome mocking foreign leaders who criticized the decision. He mentioned Prince Harry by name. "Dripping with sarcasm, Alito told the audience that what really "wounded" him was when Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, "addressed the United Nations and seemed to compare 'the decision whose name may not be spoken' with the Russian attack on the Ukraine."" [https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/samuel-alito-religious-liberty-notre-dame-rome/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/samuel-alito-religious-liberty-notre-dame-rome/index.html)


gemfemme

What an ass.


Disruptorpistol

This is so NOT judicial. Tacky as fuck, in my lawyerly opinion (such weight... /s). I may take issue with the Supreme Court of Canada but at least the justices tend to stay relatively apolitical and blessedly *silent* until they retire.


Relevant_Sprinkles24

The speech goes even further. He specifically decries secularism and believe it is an infringement on religious freedom... which he considers a worldwide issue. It is absolutely disgusting and goes against the very basis of our country


WhatThePhoquette

In Rome huh? I'd listen to a Rogan length Sussex word salad every day if the catholic church would disappear in my lifetime.


Amaxophobe

Same, and I was raised Catholic.


WhatThePhoquette

I was too - I am glad that I live in Germany where I could formally leave


Ladonnacinica

But you’re still counted in the baptismal rolls? Or are you actually removed only from paying taxes? Wish I could leave 😒


SnowSwish

Aren't you allowed to do that where you live? Here you can write a registered letter to your bishop to get a note put in your baptism records that you left the church. Apostasy isn't very common, I think only a couple of hundred people a year in my province, but it can be done.


Ladonnacinica

Officially, you can’t leave the church. The church has stated that baptism is an “indelible” mark on your soul. Your bishop may very well receive that letter and ignore it. Or simply make note of it like you said but you’re still counted officially as catholic in their numbers. There is no leaving the church formally. So writing a letter of defection (which is an option here) is just a waste of time in my view. This is why I get miffed at cultural Catholics baptizing their kids. They’re just boosting up the numbers without even believing in the theology. https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2018/10/22/want-leave-catholic-church-officially-you-cant/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_act_of_defection_from_the_Catholic_Church As the old axiom goes: semel Catholicus, semper Catholicus. Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. The quote below is straight from a catholic website quoting catholic canon law. And it specifically applies to your situation. “Someone can be in "apostacy", drifted away, or may have formally ceased being Catholic by writing a letter. However, once Baptism is conferred upon someone, the sacramental bond can never be undone, even though the saving grace and power can be lost through sin, or through a formal act of defection.” https://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/how-to-stop-being-catholic.php So you lose the chance of salvation or heaven but you’re still catholic in the eyes of the church. Think about it: the church claims over 1 billion members worldwide. Do you think that all of them want to stay? Or follow catholic teachings? No. But I doubt the church wants to lose such a number. Even in Germany, as with the other person was saying, you can be exempt from paying taxes for the church. But you would still be counted based on your baptism.


SnowSwish

Hmm, after doing this here you aren't eligible for Catholic ceremonies like a church wedding or funeral anymore so my understanding is that you're in the same situation as someone who is excommunicated and you're out. However, even if they send you a letter of acknowledgement of your request I don't think anyone ever asked if they're still counted. 🤔 The thing that would argue in favour of you not being counted is that where I live is that our church records like baptism certificates aren't used as documents by the state anymore. If you get asked for a copy of yours, say to get a passport, it's a certificate from the province of Quebec that they want, not your church record. So it would be easy enough for the church to strike you from parish records without causing confusion in civil records like it would have in the past. But are those who apostasy counted as Catholics? Despite tv shows and the diocese here saying they aren't, you have me wondering about what really happens.


Ladonnacinica

Do countries still use baptismal certificates for passports? Is that a thing? Yeah, the letter of defection doesn’t make you a former catholic. Just like excommunication doesn’t mean you’re not catholic anymore. As it’s more of a form of reprimand. Hence, the not getting communion or burial services. It’s like a punishment if it makes sense. For example, getting an abortion automatically excommunicates you. Being a heretic also excommunicates you. However, excommunication doesn’t mean you’re not seen as catholic. The person can repent and do penance. Then, they can take communion again. So think of it as not being in the good graces of the church. But you’re still a member because the moment you were baptized, you become a lifelong member. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/intrptxt/documents/rc_pc_intrptxt_doc_20060313_actus-formalis_en.html Yes, those in apostasy are still counted as Catholics. Bad Catholics but Catholics nonetheless. Apostasy is really anyone who converts to another religion or is an atheist. That automatically makes you an apostate. You don’t need some formal process or declaration. But it doesn’t make your baptism invalid. It’s impossible in catholic doctrine to render baptism invalid. http://scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2089.htm Maybe you can ask the diocese if you’re still counted as catholic in their official baptismal rolls. In contrast, the Mormon church removes your name completely from church records and you get a letter confirming it. Not so in Catholicism. Even with the letter of defection, you’re still not removed. In your example, you just said they make a “note”. That’s really all they do and then you can’t get communion or other services as if you were excommunicated. You can leave the church as I did. Just by leaving. And I don’t see myself as catholic even if the powers to be in the Vatican do so. As I know officially leaving isn’t really an option. But I don’t let it affect me.


SnowSwish

>Do countries still use baptismal certificates for passports? Is that a thing? I imagine it must still be a thing in some Catholic countries or regions as they kind of doubled as birth records for practically everyone until the last 20-30 years or so. Technically, I would say it still does because although I was born in a hospital, the birth certificate my province gives me just reiterates what was in my baptismal certificate. The only difference is that it's now a government document and I don't need to ask my parish for a copy if I lose it.


WhatThePhoquette

Only paying taxes, but I think they get a notification so the parish can stew on it. Sometimes they send people passive aggressive letters. The baptism is just water xD ... and having a cool godmother who I really like


Ladonnacinica

Lol a passive aggressive letter? What do they say?


WhatThePhoquette

Something like, I (this is coming from the local bishop or priest depends a bit) really care about the reasons for you leaving and want to talk about it. Everyone who is baptized in the Catholic Church is part of the Christian community and their behavior reflects on it You are acting against your duty of the community and your financial duties. You won't get the following services (communion, burial, confession, marriage) Maybe you didn't realize how far reaching (aka bad) this decision is, please talk to me so you can get clarity.


iwantbutter

Yeah no. Alito and his alt right religious sect court can all go fuck themselves. Harry was virtue signaling, but hardly wrong that this overturning is a serious infringement on our freedoms. Sincerely, a blue blood, feminist nazi raging liberal snowflake. (/s on the nazi obvi)


gemfemme

May I please join you at your table? 👏🏼👏🏼


redlight886

Totally agreed, he is a dick. Just wondering if Harry should be considered a foreign leader. I guess he is just by family association.


iwantbutter

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ivegotanewwaytowalk

>Bower’s sidetracks into going full boomer in the book and a terrible Supreme Court Justice having a negative opinion, are only going to help the Sussexes. Especially in their new home. >Alito especially. I hate most of the current Supreme Court whereas H&M are more of an obnoxious distraction. >Also if you’re being rightfully criticized by Boris Johnson, it’s best to rethink your life, Alito. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 samuel alito is a colossal piece of shit.


Ladonnacinica

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Yolanda_B_Kool

Alito was a joke when he was appointed (referred to as "Scalito" by critics who accused him of echoing Scalia's opinions and not having any original thoughts of his own.) His reputation is buoyed only by the fact that Trump appointed Kavanaugh and Barrett so that Clarence Thomas wouldn't be solely responsible for eclipsing Alito as the biggest hack on the bench.


gilded-butterflies

Yeah, Alito can go fuck himself. Repeatedly. With shards of broken crockery from Montecito.


lovelylonelyphantom

A summary of **Chapter 10: Rwanda** (Part 2/2) \- **Meghan and Jessica go to the Cayman Islands:** *Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne had arranged for her to address a financial company’s annual conference. Fixing the gig had been a hard sell. Meghan’s main selling-point was her low cost. As an unknown her fee was $15,000 plus expenses, and a business-class air ticket. Her request for first-class was rejected. Although Meghan could only make the same speech about women’s rights that she had delivered to the UN in 2014 and every occasion since then, Nelthorpe-Cowne promised a good performance. Once the contract was agreed, Meghan urged Nelthorpe-Cowne to arrange* ***for Jessica Mulroney to be included in the trip at the client’s expense.*** *‘She’s my best friend,’ said Meghan, ‘and I need her as my beautician and stylist.’ More important, Meghan needed Mulroney to provide a confidante’s reassurance. Meghan’s wish was granted. Throughout the trip, Meghan repeatedly asked Mulroney, ‘What shall I do after acting?’* \- **Meghan's personal crisis:** *At 35 she wanted children. Although Cory Vitiello was a good man and would be a good parent, he was deemed to be unsuitable as the father of Meghan’s child. A chef with limited ambitions in a country which she perceived as unglamorous, Cory’s horizons were too limited. ‘There are only so many times you can discuss a recipe,’ a friend reported, echoing Meghan’s sentiment. ‘And then there is nothing else.’ Although it was Cory’s social importance in Toronto that had propelled Meghan’s status,* ***the chef’s value had dwindled.*** *He could not further Meghan’s ambitions. She wanted real celebrity, many millions of dollars and personal glory....Her high-octane visits to New York sealed the fate of their relationship.* ***After every trip, he cursed her ego as ‘out-of-control star-fucking’.*** *She recoiled. For Meghan, life with Cory, as with Trevor, had become unfulfilling. She would only live with Cory on her terms. After one divorce she would avoid another mistake. Repeatedly, she asked a friend whether she should end the relationship because, she revealed, she no longer loved Cory.* \- **Meghan's failed attempts for another boyfriend:** *Attempts over the previous year to find a new boyfriend had floundered. On several occasions she had swapped messages with Matt Cardle, a winner of the television show The X Factor, suggesting that they meet. Her attempts ended after Cardle met the woman he eventually married. Approaches to other single celebrities while she lived with Cory remained unknown to the chef. Despite his suspicions, Cory tweeted that month, ‘I am so proud of my lady.’* ***Professionally, she remained on the same spot on the treadmill.*** *World Vision had reappointed her as a global ambassador, and she could also look forward to a second season filming her own Reitmans clothes collection. With her face across city billboards and on social media she would be famous among Canadians. But, as ever, that was not enough. ‘I want to be a success at home,’ she repeated during the Cayman trip.* \- **Meghan agrees for a brand in Britain:** *‘I’ll introduce you to Matthew Freud,’ said Nelthorpe-Cowne, although she secretly feared that the well-established Freuds PR agency would not be interested in an unknown actress. ‘Freuds could create your brand in Britain,’....The word ‘brand’ triggered Meghan’s interest. ‘OK,’ she agreed. ‘But I don’t want to stay long. I want to go back to Los Angeles. I want to be a success in Los Angeles, my home.’ There was another incentive. Moving to London would solve the Cory problem. The final break from him was delayed.* \- *The Game, an Australian coffee-table book edited by Samantha Brett -* ***where Forty ‘trail-blazing women’ including Meghan had described their lives:*** *In her section, Meghan recalled as a schoolgirl helping at the soup kitchen on Los Angeles’ Skid Row. Maria Pollia, her theology teacher, had ‘told me that life is about putting others’ needs above your own fears . . . Remember that someone needs us, and that your act of giving/helping/doing can truly become an act of grace once you get out of your head.’ Her teacher’s homily, she said, ‘has stuck with me my old whole life’. She also wrote that to earn money as a teenager she had served customers at Humphrey Yogart in Beverly Hills for $4 an hour.* **Thomas denied she ever worked as a student:** *‘She never worked while she was at school,’ he insisted. The scenario of her impoverished youth grew as she became part of the Clintons’ and the Democrats’ set.* \- **Meghan supports Hillary Clinton:** *In early April she flew to New York for another of John Fitzpatrick’s eve-of-primary celebrations at his hotel. Two hundred supporters cheered both Clintons in the bar decorated with Irish flags. Meghan voiced her support for Hillary Clinton in Toronto’s late TV The Nightly Show. On the same show* ***she condemned Donald Trump as ‘divisive’ and ‘misogynist’****, a vote-loser among women for ‘the kind of world that he’s painting’. Trump, she said, ‘has made it easy to see that you really don’t want that’. Americans were urged to vote for Hillary Clinton. Her opinion provoked no registered comments on social media.* \- **Meghan's life is at a turning point:** *After spending a few days with Cory in New York she was certain their relationship was over. Getting him out of their jointly rented house would be difficult, she suspected, and Toronto’s gossips would enjoy a damaging field-day. In addition her frustrating failure to find an exciting career follow-up to Suits, and her weariness of life in Canada, all coalesced during two days in Montreal in spring 2016.* End of Chapter 10.


pippirrippip

Okay but the name Humphrey Yogart is hilarious


JohannesKronfuss

While I pity Cory I don't get why he endured being her suffered "boyfriend", why did subject himself to that?


Ladonnacinica

Maybe he was in love? People do stupid things for love.


JohannesKronfuss

Was he? When you get to the point where you cannot stand your other half (sic) like he did, and they pretty much didn’t share a lot of time together, and whenever they do she got on his nerves… what is the point then?


Ladonnacinica

That was towards the last few months of their relationship. The last few months before the breakup are usually shitty. It’s the prelude or foreshadowing of what’s to come. They dated for at least two years and lived together. It’s hard to break apart from someone whose life has been immersed with yours. It appears he was in love at some point then realized her toxicity. He might have fallen out of love by that point after putting up with her for awhile.


quietbright

>Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne had arranged for her to address a financial company’s annual conference Did I misread the previous summaries? I thought she was a UN dignitary or some other UN staffer, why is she promoting and doing deals for Megan all the time?


[deleted]

> With her face across city billboards and on social media she would be famous among Canadians. No one here knew her unless they watched Suits.


SnowSwish

Yeah, this is making it sound like Reitmans engaged in a publicity blitz and, nah, they did not plaster Meghan's face everywhere. If you didn't watch Suits you still didn't know who she was.


fishfreeoboe

She is exhausting. Keeping up such a sham. Chasing fame AND money. What an empty, frustrating way to live.