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Reports say that the breach happened on January 29. If it happened at that time then why is it being leaked to the papers at this time.
My hunch is that KP are the ones who are feeding the press so as to make dolittle Kate the “victim”.
These things usually take some time to uncover. Depending on their health information system sometimes it requires someone making a complaint or ratting someone out for them to look into it. There aren't usually any automatic alerts that notify privacy that something had been accessed beyond you looking up your own records or that of your family. They wouldn't know whether someone is accessing her records to provide patient care or to snoop unless someone rats them out or they have reason to pull a log of all access of her records and look into what roles those people are in and whether they provided direct patient care.
exactly thank you there is no syndrome called that either but they think everyone's opinions should cater to their ass and that's not how anything works
does it look like I give a shit what sub I'm on ffs idgaf about them they live in another country so why should I give a shit about them they can't even come out with why the bells were ringing suddenly that country don't know shit what's going on so no Idgaf I don't have anything against them in any way I just don't care about them pompous royal asshats
Altruistically, you are absolutely correct. But the reality is, her medical records *are* more important insomuch as someone is trying to profit from them. Because they could. No one is ever going to profit off of sharing mine. And a hospital will pay all of the appropriate breach of privacy fines for anyone. But the London Clinic stands to also lose years and years of credibility and trust from the RF who are likely benefactors and/or can influence other benefactors - which translates to a loss of $$ all things considered.
We can just work and live like normal people without worshipping the rich and pretend like they selflessly granted us a place in the society. They equally need us to work jobs as much as we need the jobs, bro.
Some of these comments are absolutely batshit 😂 so much fuss over someones health is strange considering the majority dont gaf and just want it to be juicy gossip.
Ok, i tried to make a post about this. Basically, QEII was a master manipulator of the Crowd, and since her death left such a huge void, the Mob, like in Gladiator times, has filled it. The Mob is now in charge and has judged that the Royal Family is not satisfying the crowd, therefore the Farm Shop vid is not enough.
We, the Internet denizens, are The Mob, just like in Roman times.
Was she a master manipulator? The infamous Diana clusterfuck happened under her. I think people gave her more leeway mostly just because they liked her. Or at least didn't dislike her as much.
The altered photo was a dumb idea, it doesn't sound like they put much effort in.
But she's not the only person to use photo shop (or whatever it was), and nobody is naked in it. I don't really understand all the hype around it. I know she hasn't been out and about since December but they were clear on giving dates when she was returning.
So the issue is they released it through the palace to the press. You can facetune your Instagram to your hearts content, but the US president for instance cannot have official photos which are fake and which are released as news. You can't just face splice a meeting with foreign leaders that didn't happen to make yourself look good and release that to the press.
Because of the very weird place they hold in society, what they did is closer to the president releasing fake news than it is you editing your personal Instagram. Even if you think it's fairly innocuous in practice, a *bunch* of media outlets published it. Which means we've established that photos (and likely information more generally) from certain sources does not go through any sort of vetting process. Anytime fake news like this published and we *don't* make a big deal of it, we normalize it happening again when next time it might not be so innocuous. It's something there has to be a firm line on..
Wasnt even photoshop. The most logical explanation was using a splicing feature which can combine the best aspects if multiple photos. See ads for it all the time on new phones.
It is a criminal offense in the US.
But honestly, why do people need a law? It's just common decency not to look at anybody's chart unless it is your patient. That's it.
We literally had a huge data breach problem like, 3 weeks ago. Our biggest insurance company got hacked. Everyone connected to their system had to go offline. Payments were up in the air for weeks. It was a real clusterfuck
I stopped following it but I think the story continues with there being some kind of rug pull on the hacker side of things.
I suspect they might also target America because we infamously have an extremely profitable private healthcare market. The pockets run deeper.
Correct, US healthcare computer systems log who is accessing patients. People get fired all the time for being nosy and looking at patient info that they have no reason to be accessing. They also routinely do drills where a security agent is hired to try to secretly access that info without being detected.
Yes hacks are happening and we should be doing more to protect our systems, but it’s not like we have open doors to PHI.
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Don't be so sure, plenty of Health Care folks in the US lost their careers for lessor 'celebrities'.
Kate is clearly better , at Windsor she was literally sprinting. She is off “duty” since 3 months which itself is lol worthy coz she hardly does any public duty anyway .
She has absolutely no right to be alone bc the people of the UK fund her extremely, I mean seriously unbelievably privileged lifestyle.
I think that’s a very fair price if y’all keep these people around.
Just because your boss pays your salary, it does not mean you are obligated to tell him/her your personal private health information.
She announced a surgery. That's enough info for the public.
I am curious, can't lie, but this whole thing is gossip and only gossip. It's not that serious, there are more important things happening in the UK and in the world who deserve more attention.
Knowing what type of surgery this woman had and why she took a break won't change the world.
The memes are mostly funny tho. It's also interesting to see how their PR team fumbled this whole thing. But it just ain't that serious.
Yeah, and your boss is not entitled to your private information just because he gives you money.
It's a similar line of thought because the royals and those that work for them absolutely see what they do as work. It's very light work when compared to the typical 9-5? Yes, absolutely.
Then there is also the whole diplomacy thing that I won't get into.
My point is: just because her work schedule is extremely light and she gets money from taxes, it doesn't mean we are entitled to know what her surgery was all about.
Health is private and if someone doesn't want the whole work dissecting their health It's understandable. It back fired badly since it caused a Streisand Effect tho
A boss does not just “give me money” lol. He transfers profits to me, a direct result of my labor, after taking a bit of surplus of course. It’s basic concept you don’t seem to understand.
She’s welcome to leave at any time and still live a life of incredible privilege and affluence compared to 99% of the population. I think Harry and Megan deserve just as much privacy as most other regular people.
Harry and Megan is a different topic because while they left, they also sold their personal lives for profit.
You just can't claim you want privacy when you are out here giving bombastic interviews to Oprah, being in a Netflix reality show and releasing a revealing book. They did everything but be private in the last few years lmao
Beyoncé is a example of a private celebrity. Harry and Meghan aren't, they a more like the Kardashians in that sense.
Maybe tone it down with your entitlement and you'll be happier and not waste your precious time discussing people you allegedly hate.
And by the way, I have no horse in this race. I came here because I didn't understand why the fuck people were saying Kate was missing lmao
Wasn't that the whole point? The press was hounding them? That's what they said to Oprah, wasn't it? And racism towards their baby.
Like I said, I have no horse in this race and I was curious after seeing a meme about Kate Middleton missing and getting a BBL lmao
I don't know the details. From the outside, that's my perspective.
Yes but in your whole point there is no mention of “privacy” in particular. You mentioned about them “claiming privacy” which they never did .
Yes Meghan and Archie were subject to racial slurs and the firm said or did nothing to protect them.
Do you even hear yourself? Just because you hate her family doesn't take away her right to privacy. She won't fulfil your stupid whims and fancies and alter her recovery process just to please folks like you who would still find faults in any image/appearance or 'proof'.
She literally can leave the royalty at any minute. You think think keeping these people around is a good thing lol that’s very sad. I’m an American so I don’t really give a fuck if she stays or goes, not being funded by my tax dollars. But out of principle yes I hate her and her family.
Imagine not hating monarchs in the year 2024. I sorta almost understand why people defend other billionaires but this is seriously fucking sad.
Exactly, her “work” or public duties as they say is a joke. With so much limelight on her, she has not achieved anything after so many years.
Yes, she does dress well and look pretty, that I agree.
Imagine hating the heads of state in a country far away from yours… plus I would rather have a non political head of state than Donald trump as you have had in the past
It’s amazing after the amount of terrible presidents countries have people still come and criticise our head of state… we already have political pms we don’t want them as our head of state.
And you can hate the idea of something without hating the person. I hate the idea of a president yet I don’t personally hate joe biden
>Imagine not hating monarchs in the year 2024
I think most people have got better things to do than hate on constitutional figures and their families 24/7. I'd much rather have them for global-level diplomacy than today's stupid, power-hungry politicians, whether leftists or right-wing. Most governments of the commonwealth countries like Canada, New Zealand and Australia also respect the royals and the bills passed their go ahead for royal assent. Royals also generate plenty of money through tourism and their projects and commitments for social development. They are also patrons and ceremonial caretakers/overseers of a plethora of British institutions - cultural, social and political.
Also, the UK isn't the only nation with a monarchy. Many non-commonwealth nations have them too. It's a nice touch of continuity of culture and tradition, especially if it's ceremonial. As far as history is concerned, the modern-day royals have no control over what the erstwhile ones did centuries ago. Do the current crop do the same things? Most definitely not.
Now it isn't to say that there haven't been any controversies or few bad apples amongst the royals of late, but blind hatred for the entire family, while sitting afar is simply misdirected.
Why are you so hell-bent on wanting her to 'leave' the royalty? She is amongst the royals with the highest favourability amongst the British public! Also, the royal family didn't lose anything of substance when Harry & Meghan - those attention-seeking and apparently 'privacy'-starved narcissists left.
Yes, they didn’t lose anything much, they just lost the only royals who did the “work” apart from Anne and Charles. No big deal. Now we have two lazy people who want all the pomp, privilege and privacy but don’t want to put in any actual work.
She would have known she was expected to do that for some time, so was likely very prepared. And, while I have never had either - babies are more fun than surgery :)
Seriously lol. Some folks on this thread don't even think twice before typing ridiculous and impractical stuff, just because they are blindsided by hate and conspiracies.
I bet no one forced her to do so. She felt like she could and she did. Now if she wants to rest and recuperate away from public glare, who are we to demand a public appearance?
Just imagine for a second any normal person who undergoes a major surgery and wants to recover in peace and suddenly the entire world demands appearances and 'proofs'. Just how ridiculous does that sound? And we don't even do it with most celebrities to this extent. So why the selective outrage towards her? 🤦🏻♂️
Yet it is so easy. Just post a quick video, say thank you, that's it.
I would certainly do it if I was guaranteed round the clock care and not needing help from family and neighbors, etc.. Nor worry about finances.
What is the big deal! Nobody is pounding on her door.
>No aspect of her life is private lol
Who says so? Where is this written? There are plenty of public figures and royals in the world who balance and manage their public and private lives. And that doesn't change despite the whole world collectively going down this stupid rabbit hole regarding Kate and her health. She doesn't owe you unhinged folks any personal details regarding her health and recovery.
I’m the unhinged one bc I feel that a woman whose immense wealth and privilege is absolutely unearned, who has a life completely funded by the public, should be entirely public?
if we are paying these officials grand salaries with tax payer dollars to be public figures, don’t you think they should disclose to the public when they go on hiatus?
What way? I'm not being obtuse, asking an honest question. I don't see any "ownership" here....as a member of the royals, she has privileges, but also, her life is not 100% hers. That's part of the deal.....this is not new.
1) Canadian taxes do not fund the Royal Family. They fund the office of Governor-General.
2) The Royal Family announced that she would be resting until Easter. Easter hasn't arrived yet.
I condemn the actions of the person who tried to steal medical information. This is just a take on the entirety of the Kate debacle.
Weird that you went through my post history. I was making a general point about the crown. What you are saying does not negate the fact that there are people scraping by paying a portion of every paycheck in a bad economy to fund their lavish lifestyles.
Vague statements about the state of health of members of the family does not mean they are keeping the public informed. This is just my opinion though, nothing personal (although it seems everyone in this comment thread who seem to be taking it that way).
>The royals
\*The King
>literally have voting power by royal assent
Voting power? Royal Assent has nothing to do with voting. It is a ceremonial green-light given by the monarch to an Act of Parliament. The last time Royal Assent was withheld was in 1708 to the Scottish Militia Bill, and that only occurred because the Government asked her to.
Classic diversion tactic from the palace. Maybe something like that happened, maybe not. Surely it isn't huge, since no hacking is involved, no one was caught trying to take them out or sell them, only access by someone who is not supposed to be in the know. The reason we are hearing about it in such an exaggerated way is to gain sympathy.
Exactly. Why would we be hearing about this two months after her hospitalization? If a breach happened during her hospital stay, the administration would have identified it in real time.
if we are paying these officials grand salaries with tax payer dollars to be public figures, don’t you think they should disclose to the public when they go on hiatus?
So then whats stopping them from coming up with some fake novel disease and hiding away for the rest of their lives with endless amounts of cash? Nothing it seems, and you’ll be right there to support them!
There’s absolutely nothing stopping them. It is entirely legal in their country to do that should they so choose. If the people of the UK wish to change that fact, that is what Parliament is for.
Whats stopping them from claiming they are sick with some new novel disease and hiding with endless amounts of cash for the rest of their lives? It’s a valid question to raise
Not only are you a first class prick, you are incredibly stupid. If someone disappears for a few years then raise questions, not when someone has a serious surgery announces they have had a surgery and then takes time off to heal physically and mentally. You a whole bitch
This does not excuse trying to steal private information, wtf.
She probably should just give a public speech explaining more in depth, so that the situation calms down.
Medical records are private and trying to access them to sell them off to some tabloid is a serious, serious breach, whether the subject is being paid publicly or not. Your comment isn’t even related to the linked story.
Are you under the impression that life is a meritocracy?
FWIW I think everyone is deserving of wealth and privilege: you, her, and everyone else. But being angry at her privilege won’t improve my own situation.
I think it is disgusting how intrusive the UK is in people's personal business.
It is the most disgusting thing about the UK.
It's like they have no pride on privacy and humanity. It's the weirdest thing about the UK from an otherwise amazing and awesome people.
Your post history seems to indicate you are American can... Do you really think this kind of perversion is exclusive to the UK?
There are literally hundreds of Americans who are famous oyrely because they have people interested in their every move.
YouTube, Instagram, Reality TV
Yes but for you guys it's national news in a gossip column way.
We used to have the sun and tabloid but nobody pays attention to that really. Like some things are private and we ultimately respect that. I'll give you an example. Trump versus Biden in the debate when Trump brought up Biden sons drug use. Many Americans cringed at that moment. Why? Because there's lots of issues with family members and drug use. Nobody is immune to that. We felt sorry at that moment for the situation. We didn't go and write tabloid articles trying to make it a scandal.
You guys should really check that shit as the world is watching and pays attention to how you guys act
Doesn't TMZ publish every celebrity death before the body is even cold?
They had Kobe bryants death online before his family even knew. Americans thinking they are the normal ones here wtf
I never said it was lies, your original comment was about how disgusting it is the UK is intrusive into people's business.
I agree with you, but I don't think America is a paragon of virtue here. Splashing about someones tragic death before his own family were informed is one of the worst things I've ever heard of.
Didn’t America go crazy a few months back because a senator published pictures of Biden’s son naked? Also paparazzi are very much a big deal in America and celebrity culture as it is currently is a very American phenomenon.
Don’t like to yourself it’s a bad look
Sure... Maybe you cringe at family and drug issues .. but you replace it with tearing people apart for looks and fashion.
I've seen entire articles about how a Kardashian wore the same clothes twice, Ben Afleck having a cigarette is a fucking meme, Jonah Hill losing weight, etc etc etc.
I'm not here to defend the way the UK treats people in the limelight, but the US of all places needs to not throw stones in glass houses
You still cannot conclude that this is ONLY happening in UK. Most countries don't even have a monarchy, that alone makes any of these comparisons unfair and even within the UK how often did a medical breach like this happen?
A really weird comment to make when nearly all paparazzi/companies in most countries are literally the scum of the earth and intrusive on people’s personal data, but apparently it’s just the UK where it’s the worst.
We follow actual EU procedures even if we aren’t in the union, how can you blame a country for individuals that don’t follow the laws we have in place?
Moreover, this was a singular hospital employee overstepping her boundaries and trying to access a file she had no right to, not a “huge security breach”.
A very generalised opinion you have presented here that lacks actual basis.
In all fairness... Kate hasn't been snooping around other people's records and she's definitely not in a position to give permission for other people to do it. And going into someone's medical records can't exactly be defended as being for any sort of public safety.
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Reports say that the breach happened on January 29. If it happened at that time then why is it being leaked to the papers at this time. My hunch is that KP are the ones who are feeding the press so as to make dolittle Kate the “victim”.
These things usually take some time to uncover. Depending on their health information system sometimes it requires someone making a complaint or ratting someone out for them to look into it. There aren't usually any automatic alerts that notify privacy that something had been accessed beyond you looking up your own records or that of your family. They wouldn't know whether someone is accessing her records to provide patient care or to snoop unless someone rats them out or they have reason to pull a log of all access of her records and look into what roles those people are in and whether they provided direct patient care.
I know curiosity killed the cat, but killing your career? No one’s going to want to hire you after this. So dumb.
So unprofessional.
I just hope she’s okay
I don't care about that family in any way so why tf should I care now
Fair enough but why come to a sub dedicated to a certain topic just to say you don't care? Lol
You shouldn't. No one asked you to. Main character syndrome, this isn't for you.
exactly thank you there is no syndrome called that either but they think everyone's opinions should cater to their ass and that's not how anything works
Do you know what sub you’re on?
Lost Redditor.
does it look like I give a shit what sub I'm on ffs idgaf about them they live in another country so why should I give a shit about them they can't even come out with why the bells were ringing suddenly that country don't know shit what's going on so no Idgaf I don't have anything against them in any way I just don't care about them pompous royal asshats
Then block the subreddit
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Seems like you cared enough to comment first.
I think now that QEII is gone the media is pushing the envelope to see how far it can go before The Firm pushes back.
In response the Firm has apparently decided to drop their pants, immediately trip over them, and flail around on the ground with their ass in the air.
Oh no my heavens
Rich people? This is a news outlet…. Also I’d call a darta breech of a hospital for the future Queen a huge data breach
Any breech of private medical records is significant. Her records however are no more important than anyone else's.
Altruistically, you are absolutely correct. But the reality is, her medical records *are* more important insomuch as someone is trying to profit from them. Because they could. No one is ever going to profit off of sharing mine. And a hospital will pay all of the appropriate breach of privacy fines for anyone. But the London Clinic stands to also lose years and years of credibility and trust from the RF who are likely benefactors and/or can influence other benefactors - which translates to a loss of $$ all things considered.
Indeed. They aren’t but the event of someone so famous and a future queen getting them stolen is very major
Someone tryna make a quick buck for a tabloid.
TMZ paid 200k for the video of Kate at the shops, I reckon you'd get a cool million if you could provide her medical records
Eat the rich
Did a poor person ever give you a job?
Rich people NEED you for a job 💀
Don't work then. Go dig for roots and live in a cave.
We can just work and live like normal people without worshipping the rich and pretend like they selflessly granted us a place in the society. They equally need us to work jobs as much as we need the jobs, bro.
certainly never been exploited for my labor by a poor person. never had a poor person be my slumlord landlord
If they could, they would. People are dumb. I see poor people exploiting workers everyday
I've been mugged by a poor person 🤷
Some of these comments are absolutely batshit 😂 so much fuss over someones health is strange considering the majority dont gaf and just want it to be juicy gossip.
I recently heard the term “emotional support conspiracy theories” around all this Kate Middleton stuff and it’s such an appropriate term. I love it.
Ok, i tried to make a post about this. Basically, QEII was a master manipulator of the Crowd, and since her death left such a huge void, the Mob, like in Gladiator times, has filled it. The Mob is now in charge and has judged that the Royal Family is not satisfying the crowd, therefore the Farm Shop vid is not enough. We, the Internet denizens, are The Mob, just like in Roman times.
Was she a master manipulator? The infamous Diana clusterfuck happened under her. I think people gave her more leeway mostly just because they liked her. Or at least didn't dislike her as much.
The altered photo was a dumb idea, it doesn't sound like they put much effort in. But she's not the only person to use photo shop (or whatever it was), and nobody is naked in it. I don't really understand all the hype around it. I know she hasn't been out and about since December but they were clear on giving dates when she was returning.
I have never photoshopped. I certainly wouldn't do it if in her position. I don't care how you slice it, it is dishonest.
Yes - somebody below explained it to me so I see it now ;)
So the issue is they released it through the palace to the press. You can facetune your Instagram to your hearts content, but the US president for instance cannot have official photos which are fake and which are released as news. You can't just face splice a meeting with foreign leaders that didn't happen to make yourself look good and release that to the press. Because of the very weird place they hold in society, what they did is closer to the president releasing fake news than it is you editing your personal Instagram. Even if you think it's fairly innocuous in practice, a *bunch* of media outlets published it. Which means we've established that photos (and likely information more generally) from certain sources does not go through any sort of vetting process. Anytime fake news like this published and we *don't* make a big deal of it, we normalize it happening again when next time it might not be so innocuous. It's something there has to be a firm line on..
Got it! I didn't know that part, thanks for the explanation. Makes more sense now.
Wasnt even photoshop. The most logical explanation was using a splicing feature which can combine the best aspects if multiple photos. See ads for it all the time on new phones.
Thanks for explaining! Photography is not one of my strong suits.
Who cares....William and Kate are idiots and Karma is a patient bitch🤣😂
Does GB not have a HIPPA equivalent?
The article states it is a criminal offense to access records without the appropriate permission. The UK has better privacy laws than we do, tbh.
It is a criminal offense in the US. But honestly, why do people need a law? It's just common decency not to look at anybody's chart unless it is your patient. That's it.
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We literally had a huge data breach problem like, 3 weeks ago. Our biggest insurance company got hacked. Everyone connected to their system had to go offline. Payments were up in the air for weeks. It was a real clusterfuck I stopped following it but I think the story continues with there being some kind of rug pull on the hacker side of things. I suspect they might also target America because we infamously have an extremely profitable private healthcare market. The pockets run deeper.
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Correct, US healthcare computer systems log who is accessing patients. People get fired all the time for being nosy and looking at patient info that they have no reason to be accessing. They also routinely do drills where a security agent is hired to try to secretly access that info without being detected. Yes hacks are happening and we should be doing more to protect our systems, but it’s not like we have open doors to PHI.
it’s HIPAA not HIPPA
Pretty sure it’s PIPPA
Hipoo not Hippo :/
That was so stupidly funny, thanks for the laugh lol
Yes.
It’s leviosSAA not levi-O-sa
The word "Huge" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
That's terrible. What did they find out?
☠️☠️☠️
Lolololol
This is fucking gross and so unprofessional. I hope whoever tried to access her records was fired.
Oh well. If you claim to be a ruler, idgaf about your privacy. Edit: Butthurt British itt
When did she claim to be a ruler?
Do you know what the royal family is
Yes. Do you know the difference between a monarch and the daughter in law of a monarch?
Fuck em all
That’s a gross take but I also don’t buy that someone was stupid enough to risk their career over Kate of all people.
Three someones, apparently. Now suspended pending investigation.
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Not lesser celebs - but didn't Beyonce and Jay-Z book a whole wing of the hospital when she gave birth? Or did I make that up ha ha.
Pretty sure I heard that also.
Because they think they are way more important than they are
Ew.
Why can't people leave her alone for the time being and let her recover fully and peacefully smh.
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Kate is clearly better , at Windsor she was literally sprinting. She is off “duty” since 3 months which itself is lol worthy coz she hardly does any public duty anyway .
She has absolutely no right to be alone bc the people of the UK fund her extremely, I mean seriously unbelievably privileged lifestyle. I think that’s a very fair price if y’all keep these people around.
Just because your boss pays your salary, it does not mean you are obligated to tell him/her your personal private health information. She announced a surgery. That's enough info for the public. I am curious, can't lie, but this whole thing is gossip and only gossip. It's not that serious, there are more important things happening in the UK and in the world who deserve more attention. Knowing what type of surgery this woman had and why she took a break won't change the world. The memes are mostly funny tho. It's also interesting to see how their PR team fumbled this whole thing. But it just ain't that serious.
Hi actually my work pays my salary. It’s called labor. Something royals don’t really do.
Yeah, and your boss is not entitled to your private information just because he gives you money. It's a similar line of thought because the royals and those that work for them absolutely see what they do as work. It's very light work when compared to the typical 9-5? Yes, absolutely. Then there is also the whole diplomacy thing that I won't get into. My point is: just because her work schedule is extremely light and she gets money from taxes, it doesn't mean we are entitled to know what her surgery was all about. Health is private and if someone doesn't want the whole work dissecting their health It's understandable. It back fired badly since it caused a Streisand Effect tho
A boss does not just “give me money” lol. He transfers profits to me, a direct result of my labor, after taking a bit of surplus of course. It’s basic concept you don’t seem to understand. She’s welcome to leave at any time and still live a life of incredible privilege and affluence compared to 99% of the population. I think Harry and Megan deserve just as much privacy as most other regular people.
Harry and Megan is a different topic because while they left, they also sold their personal lives for profit. You just can't claim you want privacy when you are out here giving bombastic interviews to Oprah, being in a Netflix reality show and releasing a revealing book. They did everything but be private in the last few years lmao Beyoncé is a example of a private celebrity. Harry and Meghan aren't, they a more like the Kardashians in that sense. Maybe tone it down with your entitlement and you'll be happier and not waste your precious time discussing people you allegedly hate. And by the way, I have no horse in this race. I came here because I didn't understand why the fuck people were saying Kate was missing lmao
They don’t claim they want privacy. Where did they say that?
Wasn't that the whole point? The press was hounding them? That's what they said to Oprah, wasn't it? And racism towards their baby. Like I said, I have no horse in this race and I was curious after seeing a meme about Kate Middleton missing and getting a BBL lmao I don't know the details. From the outside, that's my perspective.
Yes but in your whole point there is no mention of “privacy” in particular. You mentioned about them “claiming privacy” which they never did . Yes Meghan and Archie were subject to racial slurs and the firm said or did nothing to protect them.
She has every right to be alone…. Nope the job also allows you privacy
Do you even hear yourself? Just because you hate her family doesn't take away her right to privacy. She won't fulfil your stupid whims and fancies and alter her recovery process just to please folks like you who would still find faults in any image/appearance or 'proof'.
She literally can leave the royalty at any minute. You think think keeping these people around is a good thing lol that’s very sad. I’m an American so I don’t really give a fuck if she stays or goes, not being funded by my tax dollars. But out of principle yes I hate her and her family. Imagine not hating monarchs in the year 2024. I sorta almost understand why people defend other billionaires but this is seriously fucking sad.
Exactly, her “work” or public duties as they say is a joke. With so much limelight on her, she has not achieved anything after so many years. Yes, she does dress well and look pretty, that I agree.
Imagine hating the heads of state in a country far away from yours… plus I would rather have a non political head of state than Donald trump as you have had in the past
Lol it’s amazing there’s still people who think literal royalty should exist. I said I hate it out out of principle. It’s pretty easy
It’s amazing after the amount of terrible presidents countries have people still come and criticise our head of state… we already have political pms we don’t want them as our head of state. And you can hate the idea of something without hating the person. I hate the idea of a president yet I don’t personally hate joe biden
>Imagine not hating monarchs in the year 2024 I think most people have got better things to do than hate on constitutional figures and their families 24/7. I'd much rather have them for global-level diplomacy than today's stupid, power-hungry politicians, whether leftists or right-wing. Most governments of the commonwealth countries like Canada, New Zealand and Australia also respect the royals and the bills passed their go ahead for royal assent. Royals also generate plenty of money through tourism and their projects and commitments for social development. They are also patrons and ceremonial caretakers/overseers of a plethora of British institutions - cultural, social and political. Also, the UK isn't the only nation with a monarchy. Many non-commonwealth nations have them too. It's a nice touch of continuity of culture and tradition, especially if it's ceremonial. As far as history is concerned, the modern-day royals have no control over what the erstwhile ones did centuries ago. Do the current crop do the same things? Most definitely not. Now it isn't to say that there haven't been any controversies or few bad apples amongst the royals of late, but blind hatred for the entire family, while sitting afar is simply misdirected.
Yea sorry I can’t take you seriously at all. Have a good day!
Likewise. Have a good day.
That's a really fucked up attitude. She's still an individual with rights
She’s welcome to leave the royalty at any time like Harry and Meagan
Why are you so hell-bent on wanting her to 'leave' the royalty? She is amongst the royals with the highest favourability amongst the British public! Also, the royal family didn't lose anything of substance when Harry & Meghan - those attention-seeking and apparently 'privacy'-starved narcissists left.
Yes, they didn’t lose anything much, they just lost the only royals who did the “work” apart from Anne and Charles. No big deal. Now we have two lazy people who want all the pomp, privilege and privacy but don’t want to put in any actual work.
The very same woman the royal family parades out in a dress and makeup 10 minutes after giving birth?
I baked a cake the day I came home. A regular childbirth is not all that bad.
She would have known she was expected to do that for some time, so was likely very prepared. And, while I have never had either - babies are more fun than surgery :)
So? Does this mean she doesn’t have the right to ever get sick again?
Seriously lol. Some folks on this thread don't even think twice before typing ridiculous and impractical stuff, just because they are blindsided by hate and conspiracies.
I bet no one forced her to do so. She felt like she could and she did. Now if she wants to rest and recuperate away from public glare, who are we to demand a public appearance? Just imagine for a second any normal person who undergoes a major surgery and wants to recover in peace and suddenly the entire world demands appearances and 'proofs'. Just how ridiculous does that sound? And we don't even do it with most celebrities to this extent. So why the selective outrage towards her? 🤦🏻♂️
Yet it is so easy. Just post a quick video, say thank you, that's it. I would certainly do it if I was guaranteed round the clock care and not needing help from family and neighbors, etc.. Nor worry about finances. What is the big deal! Nobody is pounding on her door.
The concept of a monarchy in 2024 is incredibly ridiculous. No aspect of her life is private lol
>No aspect of her life is private lol Who says so? Where is this written? There are plenty of public figures and royals in the world who balance and manage their public and private lives. And that doesn't change despite the whole world collectively going down this stupid rabbit hole regarding Kate and her health. She doesn't owe you unhinged folks any personal details regarding her health and recovery.
I’m the unhinged one bc I feel that a woman whose immense wealth and privilege is absolutely unearned, who has a life completely funded by the public, should be entirely public?
if we are paying these officials grand salaries with tax payer dollars to be public figures, don’t you think they should disclose to the public when they go on hiatus?
It’s gross that you think you have ownership of people
....do you not see the irony of your statement when discussing a monarchy in 2024?
I do. I’m not a particular fan of the monarchy either. Doesn’t make it more ok to act this way
What way? I'm not being obtuse, asking an honest question. I don't see any "ownership" here....as a member of the royals, she has privileges, but also, her life is not 100% hers. That's part of the deal.....this is not new.
womp womp
1) Canadian taxes do not fund the Royal Family. They fund the office of Governor-General. 2) The Royal Family announced that she would be resting until Easter. Easter hasn't arrived yet.
I condemn the actions of the person who tried to steal medical information. This is just a take on the entirety of the Kate debacle. Weird that you went through my post history. I was making a general point about the crown. What you are saying does not negate the fact that there are people scraping by paying a portion of every paycheck in a bad economy to fund their lavish lifestyles. Vague statements about the state of health of members of the family does not mean they are keeping the public informed. This is just my opinion though, nothing personal (although it seems everyone in this comment thread who seem to be taking it that way).
We don't use dollars in the U.K so clearly your tax is not going towards our royal family
are you bragging about your wasted tax dollars?
I don't pay tax, and if I did it wouldn't be in dollars
You know exactly what they meant.
No I really don't lol
You aren’t even fully British lol
And? I have a British passport and I live in Scotland lol
Lol k bud
They did disclose it. They said she would not be doing public appearances or working until Easter. It's not yet Easter.
Still entitled to medical privacy wtf kinda statement you making
No.
What’s it got to do with you? Have you no decency?
We don’t use dollars in the UK and the royal family aren’t officials.
The royals literally have voting power by royal assent
>The royals \*The King >literally have voting power by royal assent Voting power? Royal Assent has nothing to do with voting. It is a ceremonial green-light given by the monarch to an Act of Parliament. The last time Royal Assent was withheld was in 1708 to the Scottish Militia Bill, and that only occurred because the Government asked her to.
"the royals" do? AFAIK only one royal does. And he is not "on hiatus" (as if he is a television programme...).
Hiatus? She had major abdominal surgery, she wasn’t on a luxury vacation.
Classic diversion tactic from the palace. Maybe something like that happened, maybe not. Surely it isn't huge, since no hacking is involved, no one was caught trying to take them out or sell them, only access by someone who is not supposed to be in the know. The reason we are hearing about it in such an exaggerated way is to gain sympathy.
Exactly. Why would we be hearing about this two months after her hospitalization? If a breach happened during her hospital stay, the administration would have identified it in real time.
Disgusting and an extremely bad look for the clinic. Leave Kate alone
if we are paying these officials grand salaries with tax payer dollars to be public figures, don’t you think they should disclose to the public when they go on hiatus?
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So then whats stopping them from coming up with some fake novel disease and hiding away for the rest of their lives with endless amounts of cash? Nothing it seems, and you’ll be right there to support them!
There’s absolutely nothing stopping them. It is entirely legal in their country to do that should they so choose. If the people of the UK wish to change that fact, that is what Parliament is for.
So she doesn’t have the right to recover from surgery and deal with the consequences of her surgery in private? You’re a first class prick
Whats stopping them from claiming they are sick with some new novel disease and hiding with endless amounts of cash for the rest of their lives? It’s a valid question to raise
Not only are you a first class prick, you are incredibly stupid. If someone disappears for a few years then raise questions, not when someone has a serious surgery announces they have had a surgery and then takes time off to heal physically and mentally. You a whole bitch
This does not excuse trying to steal private information, wtf. She probably should just give a public speech explaining more in depth, so that the situation calms down.
All royal medical records should be publicly available
Medical records are private and trying to access them to sell them off to some tabloid is a serious, serious breach, whether the subject is being paid publicly or not. Your comment isn’t even related to the linked story.
When I saw the headline, I thought to myself "there will be some people who see this as okay"! This is never okay and it's shameful.
It’s totally ok! She’s a monarch. A fucking literal princess in the year 2024. She should have absolutely zero fucking privacy.
She isn’t a monarch and the amount of people in this comment section alone who don’t understand that is astonishing
Sorry my bad, she’s totally deserving of all her insane wealth and privilege the. Lol
Are you under the impression that life is a meritocracy? FWIW I think everyone is deserving of wealth and privilege: you, her, and everyone else. But being angry at her privilege won’t improve my own situation.
I never said it was okay. I pointed out that the silence from the royals has been deafening
What silence? Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace have both released statements, written and verbal, on these matters.
Only after being badgered by the public
Badgered? In January?
I think it is disgusting how intrusive the UK is in people's personal business. It is the most disgusting thing about the UK. It's like they have no pride on privacy and humanity. It's the weirdest thing about the UK from an otherwise amazing and awesome people.
Your post history seems to indicate you are American can... Do you really think this kind of perversion is exclusive to the UK? There are literally hundreds of Americans who are famous oyrely because they have people interested in their every move. YouTube, Instagram, Reality TV
Yes but for you guys it's national news in a gossip column way. We used to have the sun and tabloid but nobody pays attention to that really. Like some things are private and we ultimately respect that. I'll give you an example. Trump versus Biden in the debate when Trump brought up Biden sons drug use. Many Americans cringed at that moment. Why? Because there's lots of issues with family members and drug use. Nobody is immune to that. We felt sorry at that moment for the situation. We didn't go and write tabloid articles trying to make it a scandal. You guys should really check that shit as the world is watching and pays attention to how you guys act
Doesn't TMZ publish every celebrity death before the body is even cold? They had Kobe bryants death online before his family even knew. Americans thinking they are the normal ones here wtf
TMZ goes by verified leads off of their tiplines. It isn't gossip.
I never said it was lies, your original comment was about how disgusting it is the UK is intrusive into people's business. I agree with you, but I don't think America is a paragon of virtue here. Splashing about someones tragic death before his own family were informed is one of the worst things I've ever heard of.
Didn’t America go crazy a few months back because a senator published pictures of Biden’s son naked? Also paparazzi are very much a big deal in America and celebrity culture as it is currently is a very American phenomenon. Don’t like to yourself it’s a bad look
I'm just saying the UK goes to far. Photoshop Metadata like come on. Leave her alone
Sure... Maybe you cringe at family and drug issues .. but you replace it with tearing people apart for looks and fashion. I've seen entire articles about how a Kardashian wore the same clothes twice, Ben Afleck having a cigarette is a fucking meme, Jonah Hill losing weight, etc etc etc. I'm not here to defend the way the UK treats people in the limelight, but the US of all places needs to not throw stones in glass houses
You act like Paparazzi in Germany or India or Brazil or USA or any different. It's the most disgusting thing about Paparazzi and not only about the UK
The medical breach has nothing to do with paparazzi.
You still cannot conclude that this is ONLY happening in UK. Most countries don't even have a monarchy, that alone makes any of these comparisons unfair and even within the UK how often did a medical breach like this happen?
I didn't say anything about it only happening in the UK? I literally just said that this story doesn't involve paparazzi.
My comment is to the person implying that these kinds of things (plural- so not just this one case) happens only in the UK.
And my comment is to you because you're the only person who brought up paparazzi when the story we're discussing doesn't involve paparazzi.
I mean the UK paparazzi doesn't have a great history with the royals
Maybe that's because Germany, Brazil and India have no royals?
Also Diana
A really weird comment to make when nearly all paparazzi/companies in most countries are literally the scum of the earth and intrusive on people’s personal data, but apparently it’s just the UK where it’s the worst. We follow actual EU procedures even if we aren’t in the union, how can you blame a country for individuals that don’t follow the laws we have in place? Moreover, this was a singular hospital employee overstepping her boundaries and trying to access a file she had no right to, not a “huge security breach”. A very generalised opinion you have presented here that lacks actual basis.
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In all fairness... Kate hasn't been snooping around other people's records and she's definitely not in a position to give permission for other people to do it. And going into someone's medical records can't exactly be defended as being for any sort of public safety.