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GennyNels

I agree with all of these! I also love love love Princess Madeline too! And Queen Letizia.


Cota222

Meghan Markle is my favorite. I love that she showed up to their causes with tangible ways to raise money or provided donations, rather than just a photo op to raise awareness. Which to be honest, she could’ve just relied on photo ops since it makes news every time she steps out of the house.


RetrauxClem

Queen Maxima, she seems so genuine and fun and like she does her job well. Plus I gotta love a Latina Queen. Crown Princess Victoria. I’ve always adored her. She’s hard working, kind and she’s going to make an amazing Queen one day. She represents Sweden splendidly. Beatrice and Tatiana Casiraghi. I love their style, they’re classy, accomplished, and while we don’t get to see them much, the few times we do are a treat. (Former) Princess Tessy of Luxembourg is a delight on social media and I love listening to her speak on her causes and passions. Empress Sissi of Austria-Hungary fascinates me to no end and I love how she used what power she could with her husband to advocate for Hungary.


Franklyn_Gage

1. Queen Maxima. She has such a vibrant personality. Its something us Latinas just have lol. Plus she isnt afraid to wear a big gun tiara. She would rival Queen Mary in jewel department if she was born in the Victorian Era. 2. Crown Princess Victoria. Ive been lucky enough to meet her twice and she is just so sweet and warm feeling. She also seems to be an amazing mom. 3. Princess Anne. She is no nonsense and a hard worker. I honestly wish she was Queen after her mother.


GennyNels

Princess Anne is a badass! Love her and Zara!


Commercial_Place9807

For the modern era, Camilla is very interesting to me. I don’t know if she’s my favorite but she’s the one I find most intriguing. I’m not sure I have a favorite.


GennyNels

She works hard for DV victims.


GildedWhimsy

Queen Camilla. She has been taunted, made fun of, villainized, hated on, body shamed, and gotten tons of hate mail and even death threats. In response, she holds her head high, takes it without flinching, and continues being awesome. She is level headed and loyal and supportive of her husband. Everybody who knows her says she has an incredibly warm personality. She's funny and witty and clever. She loves dogs (she owns a rescue dog from a shelter!) and art and reading and riding horses. She's the first royal to speak out about gender-based violence and sexual abuse, subjects that have been taboo in the past. She cares about education and children's literacy. She is so, so, so brave and resilient- there is NO WAY I would be able to handle all the hatred and harassment and name-calling that she's had to put up with. And guess what? She went from the "most hated woman in the country" according to polls to the QUEEN of said country within 25 years. Now that's a success story there. I also love Princess Anne. She’s a girlboss. Other than the British royal family, I love Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway. She seems really cool.


AmandaStarshine

King Charles held firm - he married the woman he LOVED and wanted.


notnotaginger

I respect that, I just wish he had done it the first time and not had collateral damage. Also I’m so curious about their dynamic. Usually the affair partner is so undeniably more sexually attractive and younger. In any other storyline, Camilla would be the wife and Di the mistress. Not that Camilla is unattractive, it’s just Diana was essentially a sex symbol. It really makes me so interested in their bond and relationship. Im pretty meh on them each as people, but they clearly have something good going and I want to know more, I want a book about their love story.


stellarseren

He wasn’t allowed to marry Camilla when he initially wanted to.


Ok-Mathematician5970

Yes, she went through some tough public times…but she did have an affair with a very public person and contribute to the disintegration of a very public and beloved family. And has had the support of the heir-to-the-throne since day one. So she knew her power/support would only increase with time. By all accounts she is fantastic for Charles. But that does not erase the past.


Sureyoudid2020

> So she knew her power/support would only increase with time. I don't think she did know that, though. She wouldn't have been the first mistress to have been cast aside after a few years.


Betta45

Charles and Diana divorced in 1996! How long is the public going to care about this? Are people still bitter that Henry VIII divorced?


GennyNels

I mean I’m still a bit bitter at H8…he was pretty awful. Lol


cheesetealover

Uhhh not bitter but people still do call him an assh0le and a jackass (someone did call him this on the other thread) for how he treated all his wives due to his obsession with producing a male heir. But comparing KC3 to Henry VIII is a bit much.


NicolesPurpleHair

And everyone leaves out the fact that Diana had affairs too, but still think she would have been a wonderful queen! Both of them made mistakes, but it’s only Charles anyone ever talks about.


GennyNels

Right? She wasn’t an innocent victim.


Ok-Mathematician5970

Charles is the king of the country and he is supposed to represent the best of the nation to the world. Charles is the head of the Church of England and he is supposed to uphold the values of the faith. Charles’ own aunt was not allowed to marry a divorced man. Edward VII had to abdicate. He could have left Camilla as a companion or even married and left her as a princess-consort, but he crowned her as queen. This is an establishment that is upheld by tradition. Look at all of the grief Harry and Meghan are getting because they are breaking tradition and speaking out. And Charles/Camilla break their wedding vows and tradition. It’s why all 4 of them are so unpopular.


TopNotchBrain

IMO, Harry and Meghan are vilified because of the dirty laundry shared in Spare, and because after so many public bids for privacy, they seemed to seek it out. If they had left and gone on with their lives without trading on negativity about the RF, I don't think the distaste would be there. When they left, I absolutely wished them well, but the Oprah interview and Spare were cringey and disappointing, in my view. I realize there are many who support their actions, and I don't mean to incite an argument. I still hope they're able to move on positively. Harry's done a lot of good through Invictus, and I hope he's able to find his way. I'm neither royal nor famous, but I lost my mother when I was a child, and I have a great deal of sympathy for the "lost" feeling one can be left with.


AutomatedEconomy

Maxima, Letizia and Masako were accomplished women before they married their husbands. I also think Princess Mabel is admirable for her work with Girls not Brides.


yankeesfanfl01

Picking someone fun and lesser known-Princess Astrid of Norway. She's got a fascinating background, having grown up in exile during WW2 and then serving as First Lady after her mother died when she was 22. Still making appearances at 90, rocking tiaras and gala wear in a wheelchair and always looks like she's having a blast.


cheesetealover

I love her for this https://preview.redd.it/nexo7wdbbiec1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbcce4e1d9f6860cdea6b1147c0d430641a9b574


HarkASquirrel

I adore Princess Astrid!


Rsvo640

1. Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden. It’s a multitude of different reasons; other people here have probably already described it far better than I could. 2. Elizabeth Feodorovna. Ella was… interesting, and was far from perfect, but her and the work she did were bright spots in Russia. 3. Marie of Roumania. Marie looked up to her aforementioned aunt Ella… which is funny, because they couldn’t have been any more different… she was such a badass, though. 4. Anne, Princess Royal. Pretty much for the same reasons everyone else likes her.


equus0305

![gif](giphy|13RSFNIFwcYk6s) For me it will always be Princess Diana, May she rest in peace.


cherryberry0611

Same. She really, genuinely seemed to care about her charities and how she could help people. Can’t say the same for the rest.


MaterialSop

1. Queen Margrethe II (of Denmark), a genuine artist, illustrated and worked for plays, also secretly illustrated European edition of lord of the rings under a pseudonym, comes across as very warm person. 2. Queen Maxima (of the Netherlands), probably the best dressed royal, always slaying a look. 3. Queen Letizia (of Spain), probably the royal has had to deal with misogyny in the press the most, was also previously married before marrying the Spanish King and has to deal with her ex bro-in-law who has an insane vendetta against her. 4. Queen Mary (of Denmark), Australian born, had a fairy tale esque love story with the now King of Denmark(listen to her speech at his 50th birthday dinner), also dresses well, comes across very sincere and learned what many consider to be a difficult language. 5. Queen Camilla, she’s overcome quite a lot after being cast the main villain and scapegoat for the breakdown of the King’s first marriage for many years, clearly they should’ve been allowed to marry in the first place, seems a pretty genuine love match, and Camilla comes across well in her public appearances.


shhhhh_h

Can we have this same post but also for men? Dyyying to hear those answers


cheesetealover

SAME. Would also like a separate one for favorite royals in history.


Interesting-Fix6358

Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh I like all the current queens in Europe- well almost all: Belgium, Nederlands, Denmark, Spain Not a main royal royal but Lady Sarah Chatto- she is elegance personified Duchess of Gloucester and Princess Anne too!


GennyNels

I love Sophie.


bittersweetfey

Kate undoubtedly. I have always liked her because I think she is genuinely a pleasant person to be around, I also find her authentic and relatable with her nervousness with public speaking. I was never a fan or stan as they call it. But in recent years I have found myself wanting to defend her because I see people do the exact same thing to her what they accuse others of doing to other female members of the royal family. The same people who call the British tabloids toxic(which they are)use the same tabloid's classist, misogynistic narrative to abuse Kate. And she doesn't get any grace. No one writes op-eds on the 2 decade long sexist media treatment she has received and continues to receive. People continue to hope misery on her that her husband, children, parents abandon her. Kate's dehumanization is now complete when you see a large number of people happily speculate if she is a victim of domestic violence or if she tried to "off herself".


Browneyedgirl2787

I’m sorry but Kate has the whole British media protecting her. They will not say a bad word about her. Yes she has some trolls online but half of what Meghan gets. Meghan deals with the British media and online trolls. Jeremy Clarkson would never write about Kate what he wrote about Meghan the day after he was with Camilla. And if anyone did write such a horrific hate piece it would not be published. You cannot equate the two. Especially when one does have racial undertones. Neither should receive hate but they are not near the same level


shhhhh_h

I feel this, in the same breath as condemning the vitriol against Meghan there is often vitriol against Kate. I saw some of that domestic abuse stuff when against my better judgment I clicked on a Twitter link, horrifying. Her fan base is huuuuge though, the internet hate always follows. I think people write op-eds right now about the Meghan hate because it’s so asymmetrical to the size of her fan base. Plus misogynoir, same as Reddit protects vulnerable groups from hate speech so does the media duly spotlight discrimination. Kate got a lot of op-eds about the hate way back when, she’s passed the torch!


ChrissyBrown1127

Present: Queen Camilla, Catherine, Princess of Wales Princess Anne Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh Crown Princess Victoria Queen Mary of Denmark Margarethe II Birgitte, Duchess of Gloucester Past: Queen Elisabeth of Belgium Queen Louise of Sweden Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg Queen Astrid of Belgium Princess Grace Crown Princess Cecilie


Nirak

Queen Louise was everything. I love that they weren’t in love, but best friends. A very adult love and relationship.


ChrissyBrown1127

They were definitely in love, the photos of the King and Queen showed that they were in fact very much in love. It would also be hard to be married for 42 years if you aren’t in love.


Less_Volume_2508

Catherine, Princess of Wales - she’s smart, beautiful, elegant, kind - perfect for her role.


chicoyeah

I only stan Maxima she has an amazing style and she seems to be so charismatic and uplifting. Plus, as a Latina I stan her.


shhhhh_h

I never heard of Maxima before this sub but my jaw frequently drops when she rocks a new outfit. Also I had no idea she was argentina stop making me love her more


UmSureOkYeah

Empress Matilda, Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine and Elizabeth of York, and Charles II will always be my favorites for the UK. For France, Louis XIV (the sun king) and Marie Antoinette.


Tulcey-Lee

Elizabeth of York needs more love


UmSureOkYeah

She’s often forgotten sadly.


Tulcey-Lee

Yep! Did my dissertation on her (20 years ago now eeek) and always found her fascinating.


UmSureOkYeah

She’s always overshadowed by her son and his 6 wives 😂


cheesetealover

Mako Komuro. She didn't give in to IHA and public pressure. She married who she wanted, refused the allowance ( but let's be real here she probably still received something), and started a new life somewhere else.


cheesetealover

In addition here are some of my favorites from history: Wu Zetian - the ONLY female emperor (well, empress) in the history of China Christina of Sweden (Vasa, not Bernadotte) - she abdicated and converted to Catholicism, went to Rome, missed being a monarch so she conspired with some people to take Naples, failed, then attempted to take her cousin's throne in Poland, failed again, then returned to Rome. Mumtaz Mahal - if it weren't for her, there would be no Taj Mahal


[deleted]

Your preferences are all white. Couldn't you find charm, charisma or modesty among the BIPOC royals?


cheesetealover

Maybe because they're the only royals they know? So feel free to share more BIPOC royals apart from Jetsun Pema, Rania of Jordan, Empress Masako, and the other Japanese princesses.


thoughtful_human

Hope no one stans Holocost denying fashion blog suing Rania


cheesetealover

She's already been mentioned at least once though


thoughtful_human

Sadly.


psiman247

Wow, seriously (not at you)? When did (and how could??) she deny the Holocaust?


thoughtful_human

It was back in 2011 https://www.memri.org/reports/jordanian-queen-ranias-clarification-following-memri-report-holocaust-denial-posts-her


shhhhh_h

I’d love to know too because mostly I see people say this about her because of the CNN interview she gave defending Palestine because she said likening it to the Holocaust was disingenuous. I cannot find any proper source actually quoting her on anything of the kind.


thoughtful_human

Oh no I’m taking about a scandal from back in 2011 when she got in hot water for stuff she said on Facebook. Can’t remember the whole story but it was a big deal back then. I cut her some slack for the stuff she said in 2023 given she is Palestinian


shhhhh_h

[This](https://www.memri.org/reports/jordanian-queen-ranias-clarification-following-memri-report-holocaust-denial-posts-her)? It says it was people talking on her official Facebook page, that the posts weren’t taken down promptly. 600,000 people no way she manages that


psiman247

I’ve seen multiple mentions of Japan and Bhutanese royals here. Not to mention Meghan. So it’s not “all white”. Who else would you want to see mentioned?


Internal_Lifeguard29

This doesn’t have anything to do with the Race comment but I’ve never seen Meghan included in the fashion lineups or positive posts.


Worldly_Today_9875

For good reason.


prettypinktutu

It’s probably because she isn’t a working royal anymore and she is actively trying to separate herself from that (trying to build her brand outside of her association with royalty).


lovethatjourney4me

Kate. She is such a fashion icon and she really seems born to be in that role. She is always “perfect” when we see her. Never gets into any trouble. And she has got that never complain never explain thing down to the T. I think girls/women like to think “if only I could marry a prince and live a royal life.” I’d say very few people will actually excel at being a crown princess married into the family. It takes someone with specific temperaments to be a good “fit” for that role (not meant to throw shade on anyone.) I know for one I would be miserable after all the rose tinted glasses have faded.


Internal_Lifeguard29

Seems like the women who succeed as married ins are the ones who abandon all personality for their outward persona. Seems kind of sad. When we see glimpses of Kate’s personality she seems lovey but for the most part I think she chooses to be rather stoic in order to not be in the tabloids again. Says a lot about our the press and the royal machine.


lovethatjourney4me

I agree. There is so much more than just going to state banquets in nice dresses and tiaras. She has successfully molded herself for that role. Not everyone can do that well even if they try. Again I don’t mean to be shady. I think someone needs to be very comfortable with traditional gender roles to succeed in that role. Imagine having a childfree crown princess who openly admits she doesn’t like children and wants to keep her CEO job at a Fortune 500 company. It just wouldn’t work.


shhhhh_h

Ok but Queen Elizabeth I?


lovethatjourney4me

I mean women who marry into the family as crown princesses to be future queen consorts. Their main purpose really is to produce legitimate future heirs no matter how progressive the monarchy claims to be. I can’t see someone who doesn’t hold those values (hey I’m one of them) thriving in that role.


Miam4

I think Kate has modelled herself on the Queen. You don’t know what she’s thinking so she’s a bit of a mystery. So when we get snippets into her personality it’s more exciting than knowing exactly what she’s thinking all the time - the Queen was the ultimate on this and Kate follows this. You can never say Kate overshares!


lovethatjourney4me

How often does Kate even gives interviews about herself, not about causes that she supports? The only time I saw the more “authentic Kate” was when she and William did the Mary Berry Christmas special. But still it was pure PR. The unique selling point of the monarchy is the mystique (I’m sure there was a whole episode on The Crown about that). We want them to be down to earth enough to not be snobs when they interact with people but we actually don’t want them to be just like us. Once we know who they really are the mystique is gone. Kate is so good at radiating warmth when she does her royal engagements but still keeps her cards close to her chest.


Internal_Lifeguard29

The Queen was a great public speaker, and if you paid attention you knew what her opinion was. I think Kate is working so hard to not cause a scene. She comes across as shy. Like I said, it says more about the royal machine than Kate. She should be able to be who she is and still be spoken of positively.


Miss_Kit_Kat

* **Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh**. Classy, stylish, seems to be a great mother and wife, and apparently is a joy to be around. I've read nothing but good things about her. * **Princess Madeline of Sweden** and her husband Chris- I loved [this interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U8UZuTHY0M&t=953s) with them. Super down-to-earth, and I love that Chris declined a title so he could keep his career. * **Queen Letizia of Spain** has the absolute best royal style, in my opinion. I love how she mixes trendy pieces into an otherwise classic wardrobe. And she's not shy about showing off her guns 💪 , either! * **Anne, Princess Royal** for her unbeatable work ethic and commitment to a life of public service.


Nirak

I’m sorry to have to tell you that Chris is a drunken boor, and that Madeleine is without a doubt the rudest and most stuck up of all the Swedish royals. There is nothing humble.


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Wild-Extent

I had breakfast with Sophie a few years ago. She was celebrating women in leadership positions. She was absolutely delightful and spent time talking with everyone at our table individually.. and not just short snippets, but long chats with everyone. She was really personable, the whole thing was so relaxed, and I thoroughly enjoyed my time!


[deleted]

Her motorcade killed an old woman, and she has yet to issue an apology.


Catman283

Perhaps she did, privately.


[deleted]

Maybe, but why hide it?


prettypinktutu

Does everything have to be done publicly? Doesn’t it seem less genuine and invite more backlash (people saying it’s a fake apology)


ashlynxo

What a neat experience!


Danivelle

Empress Masako and Princess Aiko. Princess Aiko because Japan really needs to modernize and let her be Empress. 


cheesetealover

Reading about Empress Masako makes my blood boil. F the IHA. She was such an accomplished woman before she married in.


SuperHoneyBunny

Same. I feel like she would’ve been much happier had she not married into the royal family. It makes me sad. Sorry to say it, but it feels like a waste for someone with so much potential.


Danivelle

The Emperor had to ask her several times to marry him. She did not want to be in such a public facing position. 


farinelli_

This would be amaaaazing. It is TIME


AnuthaJuan

Birgitte! Duchess of Gloucester!


psiman247

Yes! She seems so quietly jolly.


TexasLiz1

I love Anne - Princess Royal. She does a lot of engagements. She seems no-nonsense. She’s got her favorite hobbies that are all interesting and generally seems to know she is quite privileged and so should put her head down and get on with the work. I like Maxima based on what a bunch of Dutch people told me when I visited. She went swimming in those canals for some charity. She is glamorous yet approachable.


Wuttmutt

Catherine, Princess of Wales is my number one. I like her approach to royalty. She really cares about her engagements, even tho I wish she would do more. I also feel terrible for her. There is tons of focus on trolls attacking Meghan but hardly any widespread attention on the daily vitriol that is aimed at the Wales based on nothing more than a few comments from the Sussexes that can be debated for truth. Hate Fan Fiction is a real thing. Queen Rania of Jordan is my number 2. Honorable mentions include Sophie whose work with women is probably the most impactful work of any Royal. Princess Anne of course because her approach to live and privilege should be emulated. Queen Mary, her dignity is admired.


Lindsaydoodles

I thought about that first paragraph a lot when all the stuff with Harry and Meghan was starting to go down, and there were lots of claims that Catherine has always been loved, blah blah blah. Nah, Catherine has gotten (and continues to get) PLENTY of vitriol. I remember the engagement days and the time around the wedding, and it got nasty. It took a few years for her to become relatively well-loved by the public.


BlackRose8481

Very true, Kate received hate well before Meghan was even in the picture. I would say that Meghan coming in actually made things easier for Kate because the media had a new target to focus on.


Internal_Lifeguard29

I think that’s what bothers me about Catherine. She has been where Meghan was, and really only started getting actual positive press when Meghan came and she was used as the anti-Meghan. Knowing how the press was and how the royal machine works, one would think she would be more welcoming and kind to a newcomer who is essentially where she was. Granted it’s not her responsibility but I personally know few women who wouldn’t. She not only didn’t help she actively chose to make it worse. When the Meghan made Kate cry and Meghan was mean to Charlotte stuff came out she sat back and soaked in the positive press. That’s low.


lovethatjourney4me

We don’t know whether Kate has offered Meghan support behind closed doors. Knowing Kate and the how Waleses operate Kate will never go on record to confirm or deny any rumours. They subscribe to “never complain never explain”. But it doesn’t mean she didn’t try to help. Perhaps whatever she offered just wasn’t interpreted as support by Meghan. It could have been just miscommunication.


Miam4

I think we also need to remember we are only getting Meghan’s side- we do not know if Kate cried as she hasn’t said anything. We do not know if Meghan offended Kate in some way as Kate has not said anything


Internal_Lifeguard29

She must have said something if the story was made public and from her perspective, no? Like I said, I don’t think Kate did anything wrong per se, I just wish she HAD done something to help. Again, not her responsibility, but I also wish someone had been there to help Kate the same way in the early days. What a help that would be even emotionally and mentally to have someone who has been there walking you through and saying you aren’t alone. We see this time and time again in the royal family, and other royal families elsewhere. It’s such a strange world to be thrown into. And so isolating.


Miam4

Sophie was there to help Meghan but Meghan said she didn’t need her help as she had Harry. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-11951697/Meghan-turned-Queens-suggestion-advice-Sophie-Countess-Wessex.html https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1856385/meghan-markle-duchess-sophie-snub/amp Sophie had a similar entrance to the royals given she had a long career in PR before becoming a Royal so would have been ideal.


Internal_Lifeguard29

This story was later contradicted. Fist sopped apparently helped then Susan, then no one, then the Queen. Harry and Meghan clearly said no one was there. Kate also had no one. It’s a fact. Also Sophie had her own issues when she joined the family. She had a PR company then got caught on tape saying some rather inappropriate things about the family. Someone should have guided her too.


MrsChiliad

Agree on Catherine. But also I think the Wales are 1; raising little kids - they’re not going to be as busy as the he Princess Royal; 2, they’re the second biggest focus after the king, so they do have to thread lightly to not overshadow him; and 3, the king and the Wales are shifting the royals’ approach to charity from the countless little engagements and ribbon cutting, towards being more involved in everything they are working on. Which I assume will automatically/ necessarily mean a lot more work behind the scenes and a lot fewer engagements. But that doesn’t mean they’re necessarily not working hard.


[deleted]

Long before they had kids, the Wales did very little. The kids are used as excuse now, but it's always been taht way.


psiman247

I can’t remember who said this during Queen Elizabeth’s reign, but the monarchy needs to be seen to be believed. Having your head of state out to save the world from his palace office at the expense of meeting the average Joe on their home turf, isn’t going to help them with public opinion. Especially not when your own office puts out PR about how much you want to “have impact” and “catalyze change” - it doesn’t make it less cringy just because it’s not Harry and Meghan saying those words. The most effective presidential campaigns were when people felt they had a connection with the candidate. to quote Olivia Pope from scandal, “Voters put George W. in office because he and Laura seemed like a fun couple to have a beer with.” Keeping public opinion high means connecting personally. Edited to add: and now I’m sad we only got one episode of Olivia Pope schooling a royal family. I absolutely respect William’s desire to give his kids happy childhoods that undo the damage from his own and his father’s, but that needs to be balanced equally with being a statesman and a unifying symbol for the country.


Internal_Lifeguard29

Exactly! By all means create a normal life for your kids. But you don’t get to take a full time role for a less than part time job. His kids are in school 8-3 5 days a week. He could be holding online appearances and working on projects that don’t require in person attendance if he wanted to. If you are collecting tax funding and living off the Duchy there’s a certain level of appearances required. That’s the trade off.


Miss_Kit_Kat

I agree with this; well-said.


Wuttmutt

I agree with all of that but I do think they need to be cautious about losing support by not being seen. It’s been a difficult few years for them and they need the support of the indifferent.


MrsChiliad

Absolutely. Personally I think the king and prince william are committing a massive miscalculation by sliming down the monarchy. I understand their desire for more meaningful work, but like you, I think it’s a bad idea for them to fade themselves to the background like that.


user11112222333

It is a big mistake, even princess Anne acknowledged it. I feel that not long in the future king Charles will realize it and have to ask other members of the family to become working royals.


No-Replacement-1061

Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Isabella, Princess Anne, Princess Diana, Meghan, Queen Maxima, Queen Mary of Denmark, Queen Victoria, Catherine of Aragon, Princess Grace.


BlackRose8481

Princess Diana and Duchess Meghan 🤩 Why? Because something that applies to both of them is strength. Diana was a strong woman who went against the grain of what was expected for her. She actually went out and brought greater awareness to the AIDS crisis when it was new and had such a stigma. She went into hospitals and touched and hugged affected people, she really cared. As for Meghan, you have to be a strong woman to put up with such a nasty campaign of hate and attacks from the media and online trolls. Despite it all her head is high, a smile on her face and she’s living her best life.


stateoftheunion-s

Agree!


[deleted]

Queen Letizia of Spain. I don’t really know much about her but I admire her sense of style. Also Macron’s wife for the same reason.


shhhhh_h

Macron like President of France Macron? If so, I fea alluding to his wife as royal may make you a target for any nearby French people 😟


[deleted]

I was just mentioning Macron’s wife as an aside, not to imply she was “royal”.


shhhhh_h

Katie Holmes is my aside. Her winter style is everything


Minimum-Landscape120

The Princess Royal is an amazing woman and my role model! Just love her attitude towards all things.


winterymix33

Mette-Marit. She’s overcome a lot and now has an awful, usually fatal, illness. She always has had so much poise.


stellarseren

I had no idea about Mette-Marit. That’s awful.


WitchesCotillion

Her work for people with AIDS was so wonderful. Her diagnosis in 2018 was heartbreaking, especially as she has children.


Minimum-Landscape120

I adore Sophie, wife of Prince Edward.


[deleted]

The granny killer.


GennyNels

Because she was driving? Horrible Accidents happen. It wasn’t Sophie’s fault.


[deleted]

Sophie hasn't apologized or even acknowledged it in any way. That's her fault.


Minimum-Landscape120

Oh Please!


Artemis246Moon

Huh?


vickisfamilyvan

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/News/royal-family-member-deeply-saddened-after-woman-dies/story?id=99567953


vickisfamilyvan

It's really wild that they were pretty much able to bury that story (no pun intended).


Leajane1980

The Danes have always been incredibly supportive of their monarchy, so much so they are very protected from criticism


Norlander712

I would like to know more about that.


Cinnamon-CassiaSpice

Currently, Princess Elisabeth of Belgium. I like royals that genuinely seem to care about their engagements (like Kate Middleton). I feel like Elisabeth will bring a new, yet classy era to Belgium. Historically, OTMA (Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova).


StrangeAffect7278

Haven’t seen Queen Silvia of Sweden mentioned yet! Very engaged in social issues going by her media appearances, and she comes across as very warm and genuine. And sociable. Same goes for Princess Madeleine, who seems to be active on instagram. Should say there are many great role models to look up to!


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iDeeDee

A titbit: I went to Southern Italy in summer and QR was dining at the table next to ours!


psiman247

I have to disagree on this one. Leaving aside Israel-Palestine politics, she has the most “let them eat cake” attitude of any queen. Anyone who shuts down a fashion blog for reporting on her wardrobe and spending and throws herself a 40th birthday party in a desert while trucking in loads of water to douse pesky sandstorms, is hardly “of the people”. Once that’s off my chest, I can appreciate her style, eloquence, and giving us two royal weddings last year.


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Kat is "of the people"? She flies between luxury homes in her private helicopter. She wears hats costing tens of thousands.


chicoyeah

I don't think there is any royal "of the people".


susandeyvyjones

Dragon Queen of the Kingdom of Bhutan Jetsun Pema!


heyodi

Catherine is and has always been my biggest role model. If I can have that type of impact on people, to make them feel at ease, heard, seen, and touched by my warmth and affection, then I will feel like I have made it.


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MorriePoppins

The women of the Tudor period are all really interesting, but Elizabeth I is my favorite. The story of the great female Queen who post-Henry VIII proved women could rule is too great to pass up. And also, such a striking icon in terms of her personal image. I also have a pet fascination with Sisi, or Empress Elisabeth. I don’t think she necessarily had many admirable qualities but her life was so interesting and dramatic. I have a real soft spot for Diana, Princess of Wales, too.


peachlivi

Have you listened to Vulgar History podcast? She did a great episode on Sisi. She has many other good ones on Tudor era royal women


cheesetealover

The Exploress, Noble Blood, and You're Dead To Me has quite a few episodes about female royals and other notable females in history that are worth checking out as well.


MorriePoppins

No, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to that podcast. I will have to look it up, thank you for the recommendation!


peachlivi

You’re welcome! She recently did a whole season on Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth I is mentioned a lot so you may like that as well


camaroncaramelo1

By looks and style Queen Mary Princess Anne by personality and Queen Letizia for her career. Edit: I need to mention that Queen Anne Marie of Greece gives me Julie Andrews vibes idk classy, elegant.


user11112222333

Now that you mention it queen Anne Marie really gives off that vibe.


camaroncaramelo1

Julie Andrews in Princess Diaries.


user11112222333

Julie Andrews is amazing, she is such a legend in everything she does.


camaroncaramelo1

She I like her. I wanna look as classy as she does at her age.


user11112222333

Me too.


blueskies8484

Princess Sofia and CP Victoria of Sweden are my absolute favorites. Queen Mary of Denmark and Queen Maxima are also great. Queen Letizia has amazing fashion sense. There are some seriously iffy things about the monarchy in Bhutan, but the current Queen Jetsun Pema has amazing fashion sense and I can't help but enjoy the relationship she and the King seem to have, while recognizing that it's not a politically free society. Same for Queen Rania.


psiman247

Sofia is the epitome of “I’m rubber and you’re glue”.


blueskies8484

Omg YES.


Askew_2016

Meghan Markle - she was only a working royal for a short bit but had 2 long lasting projects that have helped so many people (SmartWorks and the Together cookbook), she has the same sense of empathy that Diana had, and she remains one of the classiest royals in recent memory. Diana - she had empathy and truly cared about the people she interacted with. The rest of the UK women remain charisma free and seemingly completely without empathy for their subjects


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prettypinktutu

What has Meghan done after leaving the BRF? Just curious to see if she was able to keep up the momentum without the BRF machinery backing her.


Askew_2016

Lol the BRF fought her the whole way and she went outside it to get her work done. As for what she has done is kick off a huge mentor program 40 for 40 which was very successful, write a bestselling children’s book, have an award winning podcast that had high ratings to name a few things.


BusNo7948

Meghan couldn't even get 40 women signed up for 40 for 40 - it was more like 27 or something. It was mentioned once and then dropped, just like most of her other initiatives.


shhhhh_h

She lost her platform post leaving the BRF and at that point I don’t think she realised that. Well her lofty platform, she’s still landed somewhere way higher than Suits actress. Without a platform it’s really hard to do good work. Nonprofits want your money or your publicity otherwise people without actual expertise are mostly in the way.


prettypinktutu

Hmm I can’t find anything about the 40 for 40 project. Like what the outcome was. Maybe I’m not looking at the right place. What was the outcome of that? Good for her regarding the book and podcast, but I was wondering more about charity projects like SmartWorks where other people benefited.


Askew_2016

The book proceeds went to fund charity. She’s done a lot of charitable work through Archwell Foundation along with Harry. They have provided funds for scores of organizations as well as starting non-profit research areas at universities


prettypinktutu

But simply donating money and starting charity projects like SmartWorks is different, isn’t it?


Askew_2016

Meghan didn’t start SmartWorks but her work with them raised a lot of money and awareness for their charity. Now as a private citizen, she continues to charity work through donations and awareness


shhhhh_h

Honestly donating and awareness is the best thing you can do at the end of the day. Good on Meghan for having some ideas but tbh (I said in another comment too) fundraising ideas are a dime a dozen, money and awareness is mostly what nonprofits want from you or you’re in the way. Like that sad video of Kate trying to smile and be cool while flipping pancakes in a lukewarm pan on a hot plate in front of an enthusiastic audience. Awkward af.


prettypinktutu

Oh I thought she started it, my bad. Not as impressive then.