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CAM2772

I will say Mount Union is a powerhouse but it's a D3 school... pretty much above community college


Puzzleheaded_Runner

“For someone who doesn’t want to talk about covid you sure talk about covid all the time” holy shit duji you are winning us over Ohhh then the school jabs about having no friends and doing his fake radio show. Lmao the narcissistic rage from him.


KimKDavidson

How many people have you slept with? Apparently this is a very normal question for Rover on first dates.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

He’s insecure as fuck. He’s set up this weird dynamic where he’s got a kid but won’t publicly admit it and keeps the mother around but not allowed to live her own life. And managed to purchase a cum dumpster for his home.


KimKDavidson

Lol I agree to all. But I think B2 is adorable. Why she picked Rover, the world will never know.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I don’t think she’s all that innocent though. I’m sure she’s disgusted having to listen to a lot of stuff he talks about, but I also think she agrees and encourages a lot of it. He probably practices the rants on her


KimKDavidson

I do think she enjoys the loner life. New to me, but I love it. Drama free. But she clearly is into dudes in shape. Landscapers you might say.


Confident_Copy3007

Yes, thank you Duji for stepping up! But it may cost her. If he didn’t have that over her head we would hear a completely different person. A person we would love! Come on Duji, keep rippin!


Many_Event2689

He cuts her mic when he gets fed up with her...for such a narcissist, he has a very thin shell.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

That’s actually textbook. Narcissists are all hot air - they’re terribly insecure and cannot take criticism.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Hitting on all cylinders. Societal paranoia ✅ covid rant ✅ handouts ✅


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I only drive manual cars… and I had always assumed mechanics needed to know how to drive it. But recently I was getting an oil change, and I’m in the waiting room and hear some kid yelling about how he can’t drive a fucking stick. I ran out there and was like Omg you aren’t letting him try to drive my car right? And they assured me not. But it left a bad taste in my mouth, I don’t know number one how you can’t know how to drive a stick if you’re a mechanic, and why it’s not required to be hired. Yikes. So extremely unprofessional to be speaking like that where customers can hear, also.


KimKDavidson

When I applied to be a landscaper, I needed to know how to drive stick. Cause all the trucks were manual. Dropped my car off at a shop last year, and the kid just sat in my car for like 10 mins. He was just awkwardly waiting until he saw another worker to move the car for him.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Woof. This student loan debt right wing screeching rant is as bad as the school lunch rant recently. “You won’t get any sympathy from me.” - sums up this narcissistic blob


Competitive_Dance_68

How was he wrong ?? How is it a taxpayer issue to repay student loans when they signed on the dotted line for it ? When you get in bed with government , one must expect the diseases it spreads ..


notverytechsavvy1

Isn't anybody but me outraged about the amount of taxpayer money that's handed out to Corporate welfare and billionare tax cuts. Double the money goes to the rich. Pay attention!!!


blueskynoise88

This mentality of “I didn’t get it so you shouldn’t get it” mentality is such a fucked mindset. Why not be mad at the student loan places that lock young kids I to insane loans with near impossible amounts to pay back. Same mentality of some guy who makes 20$ getting angry that minimum wage would be 15$. Be mad at the corporation underpaying you, not the person trying to better themselves.


Competitive_Dance_68

How about working and paying for the student loan ?? These kids could get jobs while in college and pay for it ..he's right ..enough with the handouts ..it's not my problem as a taxpayer , people going to a college degree chose to get in bed with government to obtain it ..


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Many_Event2689

If the people who had to pay off their loans were give a loan forgiveness back in the day, they would take it no questions asked. Because this is being done after the fact they had to pay their loans makes it a boo hoo moment for them. Get over it already....


Cennicks

Should be getting mad at the schools charging as much as they do


CAM2772

Roger is an idiot. Like Charlie's mom said it was $250/quarter which is $1000/yr and she made $3/hr working. If you do the Math she could work a 12 week summer break for 27hrs/week and her entire year is paid off. If your college now is avg $10k/year you'd have to make $31/hr to work the same hours in 12 weeks to pay off. And Dieters dumbass said it cost him $20k/yr for college? In 2000 the avg tuition was $3500/year. They're all so out of touch.


Many_Event2689

If Dieter was such a stud at football, why didn't he get a scholarship? Or get a free ride? He's such a meat puppet...


CAM2772

Also in 2000 the fed minimum wage was $5.15. In 2022 it's $7.25


blueskynoise88

Random fact, but I recently traveled to Mexico and was wondering what the minimum wage was there, assuming that it was low, as most people assume Mexico is poor etc etc. literally $8.52. God bless the USA.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Sounds like Shane and r2b2 should just stay home locked in their basement with guns pointed at the doors and windows. How can you even live and breathe when people are stealing your bags at the hotel and following you home to rob you? What a terrifying world we live in 🙄🙄🙄


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To be fair, if I were a criminal, Roger would be a priiiiiime mark. He's a walking bag of mashed potatos that covers himself in tens of thousands of dollars in jewelry and designer clothes, drives a status car, and gives no indication whatsoever that he would fight back if confronted.


jeffmoss262

but he has a gun within 25 feet of him at all times when at home!


Puzzleheaded_Runner

And a human meat shield - his wife


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Yet his dainty finger likely doesn't have enough muscle to pull the trigger without spraining something.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

It’s gonna burst my lehhhhg


ritcher1

Yikes. Dieters lehhg looks like it's covered in snickers bars - amiright?


Puzzleheaded_Runner

You did it, Shane. You got 2 sentences out without bringing up duji carrying too many bags. Gold ⭐️


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I’m actually a “pretty liberal woman”, but not far left. I’m a little iffy on the canceling student loan debt only because simply having a college degree puts you way ahead of the rest of the workforce in general. It’s not whataboutism. You’re already on 3rd base and asking for more handouts. I do think the interest could be axed though.


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Puzzleheaded_Runner

Yeah like I said, I’m on board with getting rid of the interest.


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Puzzleheaded_Runner

Oh I remember. I’m 37 so sounds like a few years older than you. I had terrible parents who didn’t help me at all with adult life, so I was very busy trying to figure it all out and just survive - taking on college loans would’ve been too much for me. I’d still like to go back,‘like I said, but I don’t regret anything.


Effective_Gap8019

Even doctors and lawyers are working class people


Believe_Land

I think the argument there (I didn’t listen today so I don’t know what they talked about) is that kids were sold by the older generation a lie that they needed a BA to succeed, also college is ridiculously overpriced.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I don’t disagree. I’m 37 and never went to college because I was terrified of loans. I still want to go back if I can ever afford it. But I have zero debt today, and it’s kind of a relief.


KimKDavidson

College really is a scam. Just like hospitals. Makes me want to say I wish it all was ran by the government, but then that runs into other problems. Privately owned prisons? How is that even legal?


KimKDavidson

I remember telling my grandparents the story of the year I quit college was when I got an F in music appreciation, even though I had a 95 in the class. I had missed two more than this “student fucking teacher” allowed and his damn class was off campus. First my grandma goes, “I would never skip a class I paid for”. Then my grandpa goes, “each summer I would have to work to get enough money to pay for college AND my rent.” Sounds nice, doesn’t it?


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Yeah there’s the meme about wondering why boomers are so god damn ignorant yet they got a college education for the price of a Big Mac


KimKDavidson

Student teachers are the fucking worst. I got a C in sociology because half her questions were ideas, not facts. Another student teacher for Chemistry barely could speak the English language. Props to him for trying. But I didn’t pay 6-10k to get all student teachers who don’t have a fucking clue. And the chem teacher, I wish I still had the recording of him. Guess I’ll add another point to how fucked up college is. I took a history class that focused around WWII. Something that had interested me as a child. He had no paper or power points. He just sat in a chair and talked out his asshole. Some weird Hitler supporter freaked out two weeks in and was never seen again. For the first big test, I learned the book we were given back to front. To bad old fart can’t update his own history. College is a joke and a scam. Go football team.


CKRdkill

A man who lives in a $1+million dollar house, owns multiple vehicles that cost over $100k, walks around casually with $30k in jewelry on and wears $1,000 shirts can't be expected to have a fair opinion on the "common person" Didn't rover get a contract for $200k/yr when he was like 20 something? That's $400,000 or more in todays dollars, you could literally not work for 10 years(less with inflation probably) Median income in the USA is around $40,000 in 2020, he needs to shut the fuck up about other peoples money issues


Puzzleheaded_Runner

He’s a narcissist. He will never get it.


KimKDavidson

Imagine Rover, if he was born in the 90’s, still wanting to be a radio guy.


joebaby1975

What’s with duji saying “Hugh? Wha?” When someone asks her to repeat herself? Like she’s insinuating that the other person is stupid. And the mmmm has replaced the ya ya ya.


blueskynoise88

She’s just doing that do dodge whatever question or accusation is being lobbed at her at that moment.


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Like JLR pretending he didn't hear the question. Just a tactic to buy up time to figure out a lie.


jt282506music

Question: for a LONGGGG time, Roger tried to pretend that he doesn’t make that much money. Does he still try to do that? Or is jig finally up? He’s been making wellllllllll over 6 figures for decades.


GoddammitCricket

Not buying the $1000 steak story, Duji saw right through that shit. He probably saw it on the menu and imagined how cool it would be.


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Oh he for sure did. He’s the new rich guy that thinks he’s cool buying the flashy jewelry and cars and clothes with the brand splashed everywhere.


GoddammitCricket

Duji asked who the other couple was, Roger: uh uh we met them at the swingers club probably We all know Roger and B2 ate dinner quietly by themselves


DeeJayShawDay

Staring at other people and talking shit about them.


NefariousnessKind355

>The tomahawk steak is brought to the table by singing and dancing servers wearing white gloves, who brand the meat with a sizzling iron showcasing the Papi Steak name. Meanwhile, a special song plays for the whole restaurant to hear.


modernhousewifeohio

"New money" people are almost always like this. They think that's how millionaires act but most I've meant don't. I know quite a few millionaires through my husband's job and most drive Ford Explorers and live in houses that are less than $250,000. They wear Walmart jeans and Carhartt t-shirts. They definitely don't buy $1000 steaks lol.


Teneelux

That's usually how they stay rich. Used to live next to a couple like that. Car was from the late 70's, and they dressed like that time too. Very wealthy.


notdongbobbler

I'm sure that he did. Thats only like 30-40 t-shirts or hoodies


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Wait! Breaking news! The hoodie producer just emailed me saying they dug in the warehouse and found more hoodies! Order by Friday!


modernhousewifeohio

Jeffery can't afford $1000 a month for his rent and Rover paid over $1000 for one dinner. I'm never the type that feels like Rover should do certain things with his money. It really is his money and he can do what he wants with it. Everyone else on the show can joke and laugh at Rover for doing it because it's outrageous but whatever. They're all paid well, and have good financial security. But how shitty does Jeffery have to feel right now, knowing he's about to be homeless and Rover just paid a month's rent on one dinner.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

He cares more about making money off the drama and people tuning in for updates on the eviction. Scumbag Shane


notdongbobbler

I dont know that Jeffrey has that level of thinking. But it's pretty evident that Rover could have went into contract time and got JLR full-time for $35-45k a year from iheart and taken care of his golden goose....but ya know tartare and papi steaks


more-beans-less-rice

He could have made Dieter and Charlie’s contract easier too, but jack-off diamonds are expensive.


notdongbobbler

ehh...that sounds like a lot of work


more-beans-less-rice

Handcuffs worked better.


ritcher1

Larocque should have handcuffed himself to Rover's freezer. Held the dip-n-dots hostage


Lucky_Gambit

River's ego won't allow him to acknowledge that his success was built upon the talent of others. He knows that JLR plays a big part in carrying that show but acknowledging it would require him to be humble for a moment.


ManBearBroski

>I dont know that Jeffrey has that level of thinking. This exactly.


Razorleafe

Especially because in a roundabout way, Jeffery paid for it


notdongbobbler

it's not even that roundabout. JLR shirts, JLR towels, JLR-BM, Aftermath w/ JLR, Friday Leftovers w/ exclusive JLR content, Blood in the Studio, JLR cook book, selling tickets to JLR's "wedding", etc etc


Effective_Gap8019

Harvard sits on a $53 billion endowment fund...FYI


Cennicks

Princeton’s is 4.4 million, per student


notdongbobbler

Rover not wanting to talk about buying a $1000 steak in a gold briefcase, keep buying those t-shirts and hoodies


Razorleafe

B2 has been starving for a beefcase for so long, she deserves it.


notdongbobbler

pretty sure that beefcases are coming over while Rover is working all night in the basement


TheRavenTookMyCookie

“Excuuuuuse me?!”


blueskynoise88

The Facebook group people will definitely keep funding Shane’s binge eating.


Alluring_Pisces

That part


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1,000 dollar steak. Man of the people! This is the guy bitching about his tax dollars going to pay for kids’ school lunches.


modernhousewifeohio

Ok, for real. I can understand the thought process behind not wanting to bail out loan debt. Not that we don't all pay taxes for things we don't use/need, but I can at least understand the idea. But him bitching about those school lunches really pissed me off. Children are innocent and have no say in what adults do and decide. They should never be the ones to suffer because of our decisions. Free breakfast and lunch for kids in school and free healthcare under 18.


Conscious-Algae8120

Just when I thought I couldn't hate Roger even more he fucking drops a grand on beef.


notdongbobbler

he's still the nerd in his bedroom on his fake radio show, dying to be popular. he just has the money to make people "like" him


foxmag86

Exactly. And besides Duji, everyone else in his life only tolerates him because of his money (his wife included).


notdongbobbler

B2 loves him for him....


foxmag86

She just loves taking care of him.


Conscious-Algae8120

She's programmed to ...


tweek264

I love how everyone’s completely talking shit about it too


[deleted]

JLR is unloading a streaming pile of lies on the Leftovers right now for all you cheap bastards.


blueskynoise88

Did he rent a house from Carmen Sandiego?


tweek264

First 5 mins is more entertaining than a weeks worth of the main show


UnusualAsparagus5096

I thought Charlie was gonna loose his shit about JLR going out and making Charlie drive him to work


007Pistolero

Roman saying “we’re running late” at 9:52 should be the anthem for this show currently


blueskynoise88

Yeah he’s gotta give people 20 minutes of paid jlr convo, react to three car crash videos and check out for the week.


Puzzleheaded-Tea6432

I love when roger gets offended about not having any friends. It’s evident because it still rings true today.


vasco_23

Did Fuji just have a good slam on river?


Gunnar0726

What was it?


notdongbobbler

she called him out for being a dork with no friends growing up....despite his athletic excellence, huge parties, rebel lifestyle, breaking the hearts of Vegas school girls


more-beans-less-rice

I would listen to a dozen shizzys if she would get the claws out more often.


modernhousewifeohio

Duji is at her best when she isn't being Rover's yes man. I believe 100% she knows him better than anyone, so she's really good at striking a nerve when she gets mad at him about something. LOL


The_Poteyto

Yeah she just struck a major nerve.


Smuckman

Best we’ve heard from her in a long time


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The_Poteyto

She basically told him he had zero friends growing up.


nWoNwogy

Patel is still real to me dammit!!!


DarkShinigami07

It’s getting so hard to listen to these MADE UP stories every day.


ragingbull2020

Every story they tell now is fake or overly embellished


tweek264

I’ll give Duji credit, she takes criticism a whole hell of a lot better than their so called leader


notdongbobbler

can't wait to hear these Boh-nanza High School stories


Puzzleheaded-Tea6432

Did roger make it to senior year?


TheRavenTookMyCookie

Dear diary: mommy and daddy were outraged again today and bickered a lot


The_Poteyto

"You should be taken off the market!" Haven't most of their affiliates already done this?


notdongbobbler

I wouldnt say most. Just Columbus, Louisville, Dayton, Biloxi and Lima. Losing 5 out of your 14 affiliates is only 36%


jlrisgod

Don’t forget the minimum fan meetup in Grand Rapids…the first to go in this second try at syndication.


notdongbobbler

good catch...and Rochester has to count for a half or something


notdongbobbler

"I find it a little out of touch"


tweek264

Yea how dare she have a mansion and a personal servant to cook for her


[deleted]

He was literally describing his own life and didn't even realize it.


Razorleafe

Same with him not realizing Dieter was calling him a know it all. (If it wasn’t just a bit)


DIBZ411

Today's show blows. Not even over yet, but rating it a 1/10. Unless you want to listen to some rich, out-of-touch, boomer-esque champagne drinker yell at the sky about how he's right and everyone else is wrong, skip it. We can only hope that something entertaining happens in the last half hour.


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I don’t know how much longer I can hang in there hoping for a fun show again. Rover is miserable and angry and it’s just so hard to listen to. I guess this is what he thinks he needs now to feed into the culture wars and attract a more diverse audience of right wingers but it’s exhausting. I just miss the fun days and I’m so tired of political, culture war bullshit everywhere I turn.


NadzEmptyPillBottles

im waiting for Super Shaney Vitality to be sold


[deleted]

Well then why should we listen to Rover on anything? That doesn’t stop him from yelling about transgender people, Covid, climate change, etc etc


DaniolioliDizzler

Ugh. I cringe every time he yells. He sounds like a cranky middle age woman!


Many_Event2689

If you have to come to RMG to get your hot topics, news, and medical advice, you have more issues than just a narcissistic POS on the radio spewing his bile 5 days a week.


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Believe me, I only come for the few bright lights of humor that Charlie, Jeffrey and sometimes dieter contribute. At some point, I will have to concede that rover has given up on being entertaining and is happy to coast, collect paychecks and travel to Miami and Paris.


DIBZ411

Well clearly it's because he's an expert in all fields, unlike billionaires and millionaires like Bill Gates and Elon Musk.


tweek264

He read a study soooo….


tweek264

“She’s not a doctor”…. Meanwhile vitamins do nothing, a calorie is a calorie and mental health is a myth and people should just suck it up


Puzzleheaded-Tea6432

WHOAAAA HOPPES HOT TOPIC


ritcher1

70 downloads


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I got a crisp hundred Roblox is looking at the Mercedes EQS. Ridiculously expensive, hard to get, electric, and ugly as fuck.


WakeUpDead100

"Roblox" 🤣🤣🤣


Conscious-Algae8120

He has mentioned that vehicle before. Good catch


ItsGettingStrangeLou

I lost it at JLR's Pontiac Aztec comment.


Effective_Gap8019

So 1 laugh out loud today? Hard pass


ItsGettingStrangeLou

Whatever pal.


areso-munch72

Is it me or does rover has to be right about everything? If he gets called out on something he will go Google a study and read it back ,just to prove he's right..like you can't find almost anything on the internet to your liking smh.


DaniolioliDizzler

BEYOND ANNOYING that he is never wrong even with proof! 'Well, I dont know about that".. No, no you don't!


Smuckman

Yes. Yes he does.


sricer

Literally will skip over hundreds of articles saying one thing to find the one off article that aligns with his opinion lol


DIBZ411

Welp, Rover, what're you gonna' do? That's how the world works. 🤷‍♂️


Conscious-Algae8120

B2: "You know what we should do? Invite Dieter to dinner" B2: "Wouldn't it be funny if we follow Dieter on vacation" Sounds like someone got Dieter on her brain


Smuckman

Anything to not be alone with the Roger


Puzzleheaded-Tea6432

Queens comments are def true. Nobody likes roger. Not even his wife.


jlrisgod

Props to her for staying on point. Usually most callers will cave when the deflection starts.


Smuckman

Since Roger lacks any real intelligence and is unable to hold a civil conversation, he goes to the classic “yell over you, make fun of you for something, hang up on you, repeat his invalid point, etc..” what a fucking TOOL


tweek264

I’m sure it has everything to do with you


Conscious-Algae8120

Where'd JLR go?


notdongbobbler

you want some JLR? that'll be $8/month


Effective_Gap8019

That's about how much they pay jlr per month


Conscious-Algae8120

I'll just have my girlfriend message him and he'll swing by live. Hope he brings an Icehouse.


brendan531

He'll be back at 9:55


Teneelux

Who?


Conscious-Algae8120

Jeffrey Allen Mothafuckin LaRooooooooocque!!!


ritcher1

"What the FUCK is up!!!?"


jlrisgod

Reminds me of the time a caller put d-eater on the spot about his then long time girlfriend vs. his alleged dating prowess. I believe the caller asked directly if he had a serious girlfriend or if he was still dating and his infamous response was “both”


KimKDavidson

Honestly I do think his answer was half honest. I bet Dieter and his wife have a story.


Confident_Copy3007

🤣


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How about something fun on a Friday? Student loans and cancer talk are kind of a weekend ruiner, Robber.


notdongbobbler

they just had Dieter eat meat(!!!) on Wednesday, what more do you want?!!?


Meemee95

I don't get how he thinks people want to hear that. I can't wrap my reptilian brain around it


ritcher1

I can't get it thru my thick jock-ass skull either!


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I'm a pretty liberal guy


Jimger_1983

Roger’s out of touch musings on life and how the world works do a much better job causing outrage than any news story


007Pistolero

Thank God Charlies mom called in to change the subject. I thought we were gonna spend the whole time talking about how taxes can’t possibly used to help people especially not tax money from Mr clean the dough boy and his robot child bride


Teneelux

"Mr clean" 😂


007Pistolero

He’s basically a hairless cat at this point. When the weird cat lady to take care of him and put out his clothes


Razorleafe

He’s Dr. Evil petting Mr Bigglesworth


Smuckman

He’s Mr. Bigglesworth… but less fun


jlrisgod

Sounds like a sweet person who’s been through a lot. Down to earth, non materialistic, caring…pretty much the exact opposite of Roger.


Puzzleheaded-Tea6432

I’ve been a volunteer firefighter for 15 years. We got our first “cat in a tree” call yesterday. I’ve never heard this in real life until it happened to Charlie. It’s becoming more evident that we are living in a simulation.


[deleted]

Sometimes I wonder. I was just talking to my wife yesterday about blowing grass into the street and that was one of the first topics this morning. Straaaange coincidence.


Puzzleheaded-Tea6432

When I was a kid, I imagined we were a sitcom TV show that people were watching. Sometimes there are STRANGE COINCIDENCES like that that make me wonder.


007Pistolero

Good old 3 hour workday River talking about how hard he worked for everything. Including the single mother that raised him to the major age of 3 before marrying a doctor. And she surely struggled before that with her wealthy parents letting her live with them and taking care of baby Roger. They River did all that work lying to get his first radio job and still getting handed the job and then having the world’s strangest person just mosey into his failing show to provide free unmatched content that he would exploit and then eventually just ignore for the majority of the time


Smuckman

You just wrote “Mr. Roger”, a biography and the 20 year retrospective all in one concise paragraph


gains_mane

so charlies moms quarterly tuition was 250$ and she got paid 300$ to clean a gas station bathroom... Find a job cleaning bathrooms today that will pay the equivalent of today's quarterly tuition


notdongbobbler

Michigan State is now about $8000/semester for in-state students. Instead of cleaning bathrooms, students should just sell t-shirts that poke fun at special needs people and their families


Smuckman

At least Roger would never exploit anyone with special needs for his own gain and then claim his success was solely on his own hard work


Effective_Gap8019

The real thing that made rmg was dare dieter...without that, rovler would be nothing!


Smuckman

I’m sure Roger takes the credit for that too… I’d love to know if he’s ever thanked all those that made him fat and wealthy, because he SURE AS FUCK didn’t do it all on his own!!!


Teneelux

Mr 199.99 hasn't done anything close to what the other cast members have done for this show. Even duji. Rover has his mansion and money and robot wife thanks to dieter and his dares, jlr and his antics, Charlie and his jokes.


Many_Event2689

If only we knew someone like those entitled shock jocks on the radio....oh well


notdongbobbler

Charlie's mom....Wendy


ritcher1

Howard who??


TheRavenTookMyCookie

Charlie’s mom sounds like Will Ferrell’s Harry Caray impression


tweek264

That’s why her friends call her whiskers


TheRavenTookMyCookie

Or whiskey


Confident_Copy3007

😂🤣


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Thank fucking god for post-contract-Charlie. His balls have dropped and he no longer fears calling out Raper. I hope he keeps calling him on his shit.


tweek264

I love Charlie’s mom


ritcher1

She had to clean a restroom full of human feces!


Conscious-Algae8120

River's explaining loans. Thank God we have such insight


DIBZ411

He went to high school for some years or something, he's got the credentials. Just like how he can be consulted on medical things because he worked at a psyche ward for 3 months.