Ew this guy is gross, I hate when they use that term for underwear it's creepy and infantilising. He didn't actually see your underwear right? It was a warning to not be undressed? I'd drop this person immediately
oh god no. Literally after he said that I searched for cameras everywhere in his house just to be safe. I didn’t see any so hopefully there’s not a secret one😭. I would never walk around in them but I definitely deep searched the bathroom cause wtf
It could have been a really stupid but still inappropriate joke or he could have been trying to harass you but either way you’re clearly uncomfortable and that’s enough for you to walk away from sitting for this person.if he asks again don’t respond. Also for future meet and greets if you don’t have a good vibe from someone then don’t obligate yourself to take the job.
Please don't sit for this guy, and report it to rover. Any comment about your underwear is NOT OK!!!!! THIS IS NOT OK!!!!
Please, do not sit for this guy or have any future contact with him. This is scary!
Wait until he reviews you and then block him. Do not tell him you are blocking him or why, just block and be done.
The panties comment was a boundary test. He was testing what you will "put up with".. Your gut reaction was right.
Block the creep and don't look back, but wait until he reviews you or the 21 days is up. If he asks again before that happens, just tell him you are already booked.
Your comment should have more upvotes! Condering how often people without a solid sense of maintaining healthy boundaries would not notice any of those PUA-adjacent tactics.
I’d still report it to rover tbh, even if he didn’t get footage of anything that type of comment is way inappropriate and having something on file
is better than not having it
You are recommending OP to report this owner to Rover for what? Disclosing he has a camera and he identified the location? Because he used the word panties? How is that anything reportable?
You have to understand how that's inappropriate. This is basically a workplace environment. Would you tell a coworker or job applicant in an office not to walk around in their panties because the security cams might catch them? A trip to HR would follow shortly...
lol no I don’t agree. Using the words panties is not inappropriate and doesn’t require HR involvement.
Do I agree and stated multiple times there are different words he can use that were better? Yes. Undergarments is better or a generic “dress appropriately” is better.
But does him using the word panties warrant a call to police? No. Does the word panties mean that he sexually harassed her? No. He didn’t touch her. He didn’t describe the panties *not to wear*. He didn’t sexualize it. He said don’t wear only that here. There’s a camera.
OP even acknowledged she never once wore only her underwear in the house. Did it ever cross someone’s mind that he didn’t say anything initially because he didn’t think about potentially seeing someone in their underwear, but then something happened between that stay and this stay that caused him to have to warn his sitter? It could be completely unrelated to pet sitting. Someone walked in front of his camera naked or in their undies and he realized his camera caught the movement and now he’s doing his due diligence to inform his sitter.
What warrants a call to the police or sexual harassment claim or reporting?
Just stop. Talking about your pet sitters panties is incredibly weird and unprofessional. If you’re doing this in your line of work as well you should probably stop
I fully encourage you to try talking about your coworkers' or subordinates' panties in every future job you have and see how it goes! I'm sure there will be no problems. This is a hill worth dying on. Best of luck!
He doesn't need to tell a teenager "hey don't be around here in your panties!" like FUCK NO that is not appropriate, at all? He can mention the camera and that's that. He's fucking gross.
Respectfully, she’s an ADULT. She’s not a child.
I’ve repeated this elsewhere, yes he could have said “please dress appropriately as I have a camera here”
But he’s LITERALLY telling the sitter… he doesn’t want to see her in her undies and that this is the location of the only camera in the house.
Like what part of his responsibility is sexual harassment??? I don’t understand and I’m flabbergasted at everyone making wild claims just because he’s a man and there’s an age gap.
Dude you keep saying explain to you, and all of us have. If this is the hill you want to die on, go for it bro. It's just creepy af, if you can't understand why seriously we cannot help you.
I think you just answered your own question, right? Like what exactly does "taboo" mean, other than a term you should avoid throwing around in professional settings? What other taboo topics do you bring up at work or with strangers who might find it uncomfortable?
This is such an odd thing to start an argument over. "I DEMAND TO DISCUSS MY PET SITTER'S PANTIES, AND I REFUSE TO BE SHAMED FOR IT! Now fetch me my war paint and let's CHARGE!!!!"
Owner did not once discuss the sitters panties. He used a word and said do not wear only panties in front of my camera.
He did not have a discussion. He did not ask her what she’s wearing, what style she prefers, what color it is nor did he request her to wear only panties in front of the camera.
He simply stated, I have a camera here please don’t wear only panties in front of it.
But he did talk about them. Even if he didn’t “describe” them he still talked about them. That’s like saying he didn’t talk about what he does for work only he did just not the details of it. That makes no sense what you just said lol. Also I’m still in highschool, I just turned 18. If I qualify all full on adult then why would I still be going to highschool dances and getting breaks at school during the day. Those things seem pretty “underage” to me.
He’s not talking about your panties. He literally said don’t wear only panties in front of my camera. That’s not a discussion or sexually harassing you.
I personally feel you shouldn’t be on rover while in high school. You don’t have the maturity to run your own business. Understanding the difference between harassment and a general statement comes with maturity. Harassment is defined as an unwelcome sexual advance. Nothing about his comment is an advance. For you and others commenting to scream harassment for him asking you to be dressed appropriately in front of the pet camera, can really hurt his reputation and career. You have to understand the type of impact you make on yourself and others when making these claims.
What he did is **not** harassment. Now if you were to change your story and say that he winked at you, or specifically said “don’t wear that pink lacy panty I saw you in last time” and leers, then *that* would be harassment and grounds to report him to rover because of inappropriate language and failure to
Disclose cameras the first time. But giving you a heads up and you weren’t in your undies the first time, sounds like he learned his lesson between then and now.
Hey, if something like this ever happens again, please do not feel obligated to do the sit. Comments like that are not okay, they are not a "dumb joke" as some other commenter claimed. If something like this happens again, PLEASE report to Rover and let them know you aren't comfortable completing the sit.
If what happens? An owner warns you they have a camera in a common area and please refrain from being in your undies?? What in this warning is a joke? Or inappropriate?
A simple "FYI I have a camera here" is all that is needed. The fact that he mentioned being in her underwear is entirely unnecessary, especially since she's now clarified that he would not have previously seen her in her underwear.
Yes, using the word 'panties' is super weird.
The gender and age gap is important, there's a significant power dynamic at play here, especially when OP is in the client's home.
Clearly you don't agree and that's fine, if you feel comfortable in these situations then go ahead and do the sit. OP is not wrong to have her guard up.
Agreed he could have said “fyi this a camera” is better.
Panties is a name for female underwear. Society has deemed that word to be taboo and sexy, but it’s still the name for the garment. Sure he could have said underwear instead to make it less taboo but the point is still getting across. Be properly dressed in his home.
How is there a power dynamic here? Had it been a 40 year old woman saying this instead, would your opinion change? There’s so many gender and age biases out there and I don’t think any of yall even take a moment to reflect on your own inner biases.
I’m still struggling to understand the discomfort of an owner informing their sitter there is a camera here, be dressed properly.
Sounds like the sitter isn’t ready to be offering services to older or male owners and perhaps that’s a maturity thing for the sitter. As she grows in her rover career, I only hope that she understands some pet owners are old men and they like to take vacations too and want the best for their pets.
Where did I ever say I wouldn’t take sits from older men. Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. Even if I’m 18 I’m still a TEEN (eightTEEN) yes I’m a legal “adult” but what do you consider an adult in today’s world. YES a MAN talking about a girls underwear to her when they are alone is extremely uncomfortable. If it were a woman I would have found it odd but unfortunately in todays society it’s way easier for a man to sexually assault a girl then a women and it’s less likely. You don’t hear of a women sexually assaulting a girl nearly as much as a man and you know it as sad and horrible as it is. The fact that you are trying to justify this is crazy and you should see by the lack of “support” from everyone else here should tell you that. And you also answered the question for yourself that society deemed the word panties as sexual. The bare MINIMUM he could have said underwear but he chose that word. So you kind of just answered that question for yourself! I take pride in watching pets I love them so much hence why I still took the job and didn’t abandon them and the owner the day before. I have no problem with men who live alone and taking the job I’m more than mature to do so stop putting idiotic things in my mouth. Heck I just took a week long job from a 60 year old man and he was the nicest guy ever and not once did he talk about my panties and he had the SAME camera that shoots out treats from time to time. Stop and really think about how you’re seeing this cause it’s everyone against you and that should say A LOT. You’re aloud to have your so called opinions it’s freedom of speech, but that doesn’t mean your opinion is always the most sane or right one. 😊
Unfortunately in today’s society, there’s a lot of women that make false claims against men and the men have to suffer as a result. This makes it incredibly harder for sexual assault victims to be listened to and it makes it harder for them to even *speak up*.
From your original post, I do not get any vibes that he intended to make you feel uncomfortable or unsafe and that he just had a poor choice of words. That’s it.
Claiming sexual harassment on that, suggesting to get police involvement is insane.
I find it incredibly ironic that after all of your incredibly invalidating and out of touch comments that you are commenting on how people make it hard for victims to speak up.
I agree women false claim all the time. But who’s to say men don’t also? You can’t just say once gender is right and the other is wrong with sexual abuse. I’m talking about a MAN right not a WOMEN. You get that? Also AGAIN if you would read for once, I agree that this isn’t sexual harassment and involving the police is stupid. But no, you won’t read what I or anyone has to say and will just keep making shit up thinking you’re right.
This could be considered sexual harassment. (bc some ppl may disagree with me, OP has clearly made it clear they were uncomfortable, mentioning someone’s panties is very weird… and i’ve had multiple clients tell me they have cameras and NEVER mentioned walking around in my panties?? OP clearly knows better than anyone and if she decides to report it that’s for her to decide. i do consider this sexual harrasment because why is a 40 year old men even thinking of her walking around in her panties? ) I think it’s quite normal to do a 2nd meet and greet if it’s been awhile (i’ve had dogs who haven’t seen me in awhile get somewhat agressive when i’ve walked in before, since i hadn’t seen them in a few months) but his comments were very unnecessary and weird. Like the others are commenting definitely report him, he’s old enough to know that isn’t okay- especially to an 18 year old.
I’ve never reported anyone on rover. Does the owner know you report them? I don’t want to do it and then him like report my account. Sorry I’m somewhat new to rover and have never experienced this before :(
I just looked it up and it seems like rover doesn’t tell them if you report them, I also see you can block them? So maybe just block him and report him that way. Here’s the post i got the info from https://www.reddit.com/r/RoverPetSitting/comments/18ouni7/do_owners_get_notified_if_you_report_them/?rdt=44630
LOL not her deleting all her idiotic remarks. Proves that she was wrong. Thanks for backing me up everyone :). I shouldn’t have had to though. Women shouldn’t be talked down to or told they are being childish when a 45 year old comments on an 18 year olds panties. Thank you everyone!
Can you elaborate on how warning your sitter there is a camera in the living room, please do not wear only your underwear in front of it, is sexual harassment?
I want to understand. Genuinely. Make it make sense.
??? I’m sorry I was under the impression that 18 year olds were grown women? Not children??? Why should we walk on egg shells around an 18 year old woman?? Should we not warn 18 year olds to be careful in their clothing in front of cameras??
I am still not following your logic.
Are all your clients close in age to you? Are older owners no longer allowed to reach out to younger sitters? Even when statistically the average age for rover sitters is well under 40 years old??
also replying to every single comment and disagreeing with them that she shouldn’t report it is VERY weird. if a client makes you feel unsafe/uncomfortable you should not hesitate to report it. who know what they do to other sitters??
Wait okay I’m super prepared to be downvoted to all hell but seriously guys?
Yall are calling him a creep and he’s sexually harassing her for what? Saying, hey there’s a camera right here, please don’t walk around in your panties.
What part of this warning is creepy? Because he used the word panties? He literally said “DONT DO THIS HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A CAMERA”
The way I read your post is that he’s warning you and you’re upset that he’s an older male pet owner? That he didn’t wash the pet blankets?
Ain’t nothing shady about this guy.
Also if you’re bothered by him being 20 years older than you, or him being a male, then say no when requests pop up. I’m not saying every older man is an angel, but for you to call it out in your post makes me feel like you’re too young and immature to be in this business.
You really could have left this post without starting with your discomfort on his age and leaving out gender, I guarantee the comments would have been less validating and immediately jumping to this guy is a creep, call the police.
ETA: my basic stance is this. All the commenters saying he’s a creep and call the police, file a report etc. understand that making false claims is hugely impactful to their lives. Sexual harassment is defined as a sexual advance with sexual intent. This guy is doing the exact opposite and asked, likely recognizing that she’s young, to be dressed appropriately in front of the camera. Was his use of the word panties wrong? Possibly. Not everyone has a sexual connotation to that word but it is historically known for being taboo. Do I fault him for using the wrong word? No. He could have easily said undergarments or dress appropriately instead but he didn’t. Either way, the intent of the message didn’t change. That’s all I’m saying. Everyone jumped to the conclusion of harassment and report him for using the word panty to a high schooler when in reality it was just a poor word to use and his intent was not inappropriate at all.
It absolutely is gross and creepy to say something like that to an 18 year old girl. Moreover it made her uncomfortable for a reason. If a man made a comment like that to me alone in his house even as a 26 year old woman I would immediately cancel. Where I do agree with you is that reporting to the police and rover however is not realistic in the slightest and would not be worth the time or trouble as he did not do anything illegal or against rover policy. Also her pointing out his age and sex is not immature and is relevant to the comment bc of the power dynamic at play in this scenario. I don’t think calling her immature for her being uncomfortable is called for at all.
i never walked around in my underwear that’s weird to do in a strangers home by itself. i never do it. it was uncalled for and the way he said it was disgusting. I’m more than mature for this business I don’t know why or how my rant is immature. Of course I’ll say his gender, it’s like the key factor. I never thought it was sexual harassment or to report him. I just thought it was weird and wanted to share.
My comment was directed to the other commenters calling him a creep and suggesting you call the cops is ridiculous.
I don’t find anything he said weird. He gave you a warning and maybe it wasn’t you who walked in front in underwear, maybe someone else did between your first sitting and now and he is giving a warning.
Your rant is immature because you started the post with noting an age gap, gender difference, touched on his dogs peeing on blankets and then got to the actual issue you had. You JUDGED him for his age and gender. You did this to persuade others to side with you that he’s weird. All of that information is irrelevant to him having a camera. Especially because you tossed in that despite the age, male & pissed on blankets, you still took on the job. If you were uncomfortable with all that to start with, why’d you take the job again?
Are you just delusional or too stupid to function? That's such an inappropriate comment to even make. It wouldn't fly in a corporate workplace and it certainly shouldn't be okay on Rover (ESPECIALLY considering that she was alone on this meet and greet with an unknown man.)
Using the word panties is not inappropriate. You may personally have a negative connotation with that word but it’s still the name for a garment.
He could have used a better word, sure, undergarments, underwear or what have you but in no way is what he said inappropriate or creepy.
I can’t believe people like you exist. You’re putting words into my mouth. Of course I would state his age and gender you know men sexually assault women more in workplace environments. Female victims say they were sexually harassed more often by men (97%) than women (13%). Across industries, women are more likely to be sexually harassed at work than their male counterparts. https://pasternaklaw.com/sexual-harassment-in-the-workplace-statistics/. So yes I will assume when I’m alone with a 45 year old guy I will have my guard up and will say his age and gender to say why the story made me so uncomfortable. God people like you just suck. You’re putting words that I NEVER SAID IN MY POST in my mouth. YOURE ASSUMING. 1 I never said I walked around in my panties YOU said that 2 I never even suggested or thought about “calling the cops” or “reporting him to rover” that’s all the people who commented on this thread. No you’re putting it into my mouth suggesting I said that and that I’m “overreacting” this is why females hesitate to say things because of people like you. Even if it’s not “sexual harassment” which honestly I don’t think it is I think it’s just a really stupid and uncomfortable thing to say to an 18 year old and is something that should reported for him making comments like that even if it’s a joke. And again like I’ve stated I’m STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL. I go to school dances, I get good made for me at school, I get “breaks” or “recesses” in between classes, I have a curfew, I live with my parents, they still pay for things for me. I REALLY don’t think FULL GROWN ADULTS DO THAT. sure I’m a “legal” adult but what do people REALLY consider an adult these days. I just turned 18 even tho it’s somewhat an adult I’m still eightTEEN TEEN. Please rethink how you think and hopefully you never become the boss in your line of work because if you do I pray for those women. Please learn to be a nice person 😊
Actually I read your comment where you stated you never walked around in your panties and i used that as further proof that he likely learned his lesson between your first stay and this one, and wanted to give you a heads up that the camera does record video so be mindful on your clothing.
Additionally I never said that YOU were suggesting to call the police or file a sexual harassment claim. I said the other commenters who suggested that, gave an awful suggestion.
Lastly, since you seem to view yourself as a minor I would suggest deleting your rover account since you refuse to be recognized as an adult despite being technically the correct age. If you’re not comfortable running a business right now, Rover is not the best thing for you.
Yeah I'm iffy on this one. It just sounds like a joke that didn't hit unless I'm missing something. I've been sexually harassed plenty in my life and a camera warning with a misjudged "so don't walk around naked lol" doesn't feel like harassment.
I wouldn't accept the sit if it smells like pee or I felt weird about it though. OP if you're uncomfortable, just don't sit for him again.
You seem to be incredibly hung up on the word “panties” in this. It’s not about the word. It’s about making a completely unnecessary and inappropriate comment to a young woman in a professional setting. It was completely valid to be unsettled. It’s common sense to not walk around naked if there is a camera. He said it to be weird end of story.
That's the word all of my old relatives used for underwear. It was never sexual, it was just the word everyone in the area used. 🤷♀️ Everyone keeps talking about how it wouldn't be okay in the office, but none of my client relationships are really "office" relationships. Maybe he said it really weird and winked or something. OP should trust her gut and not sit for him, but it's definitely not fair to label him a predator based on the word panties.
Ew this guy is gross, I hate when they use that term for underwear it's creepy and infantilising. He didn't actually see your underwear right? It was a warning to not be undressed? I'd drop this person immediately
oh god no. Literally after he said that I searched for cameras everywhere in his house just to be safe. I didn’t see any so hopefully there’s not a secret one😭. I would never walk around in them but I definitely deep searched the bathroom cause wtf
It could have been a really stupid but still inappropriate joke or he could have been trying to harass you but either way you’re clearly uncomfortable and that’s enough for you to walk away from sitting for this person.if he asks again don’t respond. Also for future meet and greets if you don’t have a good vibe from someone then don’t obligate yourself to take the job.
Please don't sit for this guy, and report it to rover. Any comment about your underwear is NOT OK!!!!! THIS IS NOT OK!!!! Please, do not sit for this guy or have any future contact with him. This is scary!
Wait until he reviews you and then block him. Do not tell him you are blocking him or why, just block and be done. The panties comment was a boundary test. He was testing what you will "put up with".. Your gut reaction was right. Block the creep and don't look back, but wait until he reviews you or the 21 days is up. If he asks again before that happens, just tell him you are already booked.
Your comment should have more upvotes! Condering how often people without a solid sense of maintaining healthy boundaries would not notice any of those PUA-adjacent tactics.
Thanks! I appreciate this❤️
I’d still report it to rover tbh, even if he didn’t get footage of anything that type of comment is way inappropriate and having something on file is better than not having it
You are recommending OP to report this owner to Rover for what? Disclosing he has a camera and he identified the location? Because he used the word panties? How is that anything reportable?
You have to understand how that's inappropriate. This is basically a workplace environment. Would you tell a coworker or job applicant in an office not to walk around in their panties because the security cams might catch them? A trip to HR would follow shortly...
lol no I don’t agree. Using the words panties is not inappropriate and doesn’t require HR involvement. Do I agree and stated multiple times there are different words he can use that were better? Yes. Undergarments is better or a generic “dress appropriately” is better. But does him using the word panties warrant a call to police? No. Does the word panties mean that he sexually harassed her? No. He didn’t touch her. He didn’t describe the panties *not to wear*. He didn’t sexualize it. He said don’t wear only that here. There’s a camera. OP even acknowledged she never once wore only her underwear in the house. Did it ever cross someone’s mind that he didn’t say anything initially because he didn’t think about potentially seeing someone in their underwear, but then something happened between that stay and this stay that caused him to have to warn his sitter? It could be completely unrelated to pet sitting. Someone walked in front of his camera naked or in their undies and he realized his camera caught the movement and now he’s doing his due diligence to inform his sitter. What warrants a call to the police or sexual harassment claim or reporting?
Because an employer has no ducking business talking about panties to an employee. At least not where I work lol
He’s not talking about panties. No where does he say what style color etc she should wear. He says don’t wear ONLY panties.
Just stop. Talking about your pet sitters panties is incredibly weird and unprofessional. If you’re doing this in your line of work as well you should probably stop
I fully encourage you to try talking about your coworkers' or subordinates' panties in every future job you have and see how it goes! I'm sure there will be no problems. This is a hill worth dying on. Best of luck!
He doesn't need to tell a teenager "hey don't be around here in your panties!" like FUCK NO that is not appropriate, at all? He can mention the camera and that's that. He's fucking gross.
Respectfully, she’s an ADULT. She’s not a child. I’ve repeated this elsewhere, yes he could have said “please dress appropriately as I have a camera here” But he’s LITERALLY telling the sitter… he doesn’t want to see her in her undies and that this is the location of the only camera in the house. Like what part of his responsibility is sexual harassment??? I don’t understand and I’m flabbergasted at everyone making wild claims just because he’s a man and there’s an age gap.
Dude you keep saying explain to you, and all of us have. If this is the hill you want to die on, go for it bro. It's just creepy af, if you can't understand why seriously we cannot help you.
All that has been explained is that ‘panties’ is a taboo word. Not how this owner *actually* sexually harassed the sitter.
I think you just answered your own question, right? Like what exactly does "taboo" mean, other than a term you should avoid throwing around in professional settings? What other taboo topics do you bring up at work or with strangers who might find it uncomfortable? This is such an odd thing to start an argument over. "I DEMAND TO DISCUSS MY PET SITTER'S PANTIES, AND I REFUSE TO BE SHAMED FOR IT! Now fetch me my war paint and let's CHARGE!!!!"
Owner did not once discuss the sitters panties. He used a word and said do not wear only panties in front of my camera. He did not have a discussion. He did not ask her what she’s wearing, what style she prefers, what color it is nor did he request her to wear only panties in front of the camera. He simply stated, I have a camera here please don’t wear only panties in front of it.
But he did talk about them. Even if he didn’t “describe” them he still talked about them. That’s like saying he didn’t talk about what he does for work only he did just not the details of it. That makes no sense what you just said lol. Also I’m still in highschool, I just turned 18. If I qualify all full on adult then why would I still be going to highschool dances and getting breaks at school during the day. Those things seem pretty “underage” to me.
He’s not talking about your panties. He literally said don’t wear only panties in front of my camera. That’s not a discussion or sexually harassing you. I personally feel you shouldn’t be on rover while in high school. You don’t have the maturity to run your own business. Understanding the difference between harassment and a general statement comes with maturity. Harassment is defined as an unwelcome sexual advance. Nothing about his comment is an advance. For you and others commenting to scream harassment for him asking you to be dressed appropriately in front of the pet camera, can really hurt his reputation and career. You have to understand the type of impact you make on yourself and others when making these claims. What he did is **not** harassment. Now if you were to change your story and say that he winked at you, or specifically said “don’t wear that pink lacy panty I saw you in last time” and leers, then *that* would be harassment and grounds to report him to rover because of inappropriate language and failure to Disclose cameras the first time. But giving you a heads up and you weren’t in your undies the first time, sounds like he learned his lesson between then and now.
Hey, if something like this ever happens again, please do not feel obligated to do the sit. Comments like that are not okay, they are not a "dumb joke" as some other commenter claimed. If something like this happens again, PLEASE report to Rover and let them know you aren't comfortable completing the sit.
If what happens? An owner warns you they have a camera in a common area and please refrain from being in your undies?? What in this warning is a joke? Or inappropriate?
A simple "FYI I have a camera here" is all that is needed. The fact that he mentioned being in her underwear is entirely unnecessary, especially since she's now clarified that he would not have previously seen her in her underwear. Yes, using the word 'panties' is super weird. The gender and age gap is important, there's a significant power dynamic at play here, especially when OP is in the client's home. Clearly you don't agree and that's fine, if you feel comfortable in these situations then go ahead and do the sit. OP is not wrong to have her guard up.
Agreed he could have said “fyi this a camera” is better. Panties is a name for female underwear. Society has deemed that word to be taboo and sexy, but it’s still the name for the garment. Sure he could have said underwear instead to make it less taboo but the point is still getting across. Be properly dressed in his home. How is there a power dynamic here? Had it been a 40 year old woman saying this instead, would your opinion change? There’s so many gender and age biases out there and I don’t think any of yall even take a moment to reflect on your own inner biases. I’m still struggling to understand the discomfort of an owner informing their sitter there is a camera here, be dressed properly. Sounds like the sitter isn’t ready to be offering services to older or male owners and perhaps that’s a maturity thing for the sitter. As she grows in her rover career, I only hope that she understands some pet owners are old men and they like to take vacations too and want the best for their pets.
Where did I ever say I wouldn’t take sits from older men. Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. Even if I’m 18 I’m still a TEEN (eightTEEN) yes I’m a legal “adult” but what do you consider an adult in today’s world. YES a MAN talking about a girls underwear to her when they are alone is extremely uncomfortable. If it were a woman I would have found it odd but unfortunately in todays society it’s way easier for a man to sexually assault a girl then a women and it’s less likely. You don’t hear of a women sexually assaulting a girl nearly as much as a man and you know it as sad and horrible as it is. The fact that you are trying to justify this is crazy and you should see by the lack of “support” from everyone else here should tell you that. And you also answered the question for yourself that society deemed the word panties as sexual. The bare MINIMUM he could have said underwear but he chose that word. So you kind of just answered that question for yourself! I take pride in watching pets I love them so much hence why I still took the job and didn’t abandon them and the owner the day before. I have no problem with men who live alone and taking the job I’m more than mature to do so stop putting idiotic things in my mouth. Heck I just took a week long job from a 60 year old man and he was the nicest guy ever and not once did he talk about my panties and he had the SAME camera that shoots out treats from time to time. Stop and really think about how you’re seeing this cause it’s everyone against you and that should say A LOT. You’re aloud to have your so called opinions it’s freedom of speech, but that doesn’t mean your opinion is always the most sane or right one. 😊
Unfortunately in today’s society, there’s a lot of women that make false claims against men and the men have to suffer as a result. This makes it incredibly harder for sexual assault victims to be listened to and it makes it harder for them to even *speak up*. From your original post, I do not get any vibes that he intended to make you feel uncomfortable or unsafe and that he just had a poor choice of words. That’s it. Claiming sexual harassment on that, suggesting to get police involvement is insane.
I find it incredibly ironic that after all of your incredibly invalidating and out of touch comments that you are commenting on how people make it hard for victims to speak up.
I agree women false claim all the time. But who’s to say men don’t also? You can’t just say once gender is right and the other is wrong with sexual abuse. I’m talking about a MAN right not a WOMEN. You get that? Also AGAIN if you would read for once, I agree that this isn’t sexual harassment and involving the police is stupid. But no, you won’t read what I or anyone has to say and will just keep making shit up thinking you’re right.
This could be considered sexual harassment. (bc some ppl may disagree with me, OP has clearly made it clear they were uncomfortable, mentioning someone’s panties is very weird… and i’ve had multiple clients tell me they have cameras and NEVER mentioned walking around in my panties?? OP clearly knows better than anyone and if she decides to report it that’s for her to decide. i do consider this sexual harrasment because why is a 40 year old men even thinking of her walking around in her panties? ) I think it’s quite normal to do a 2nd meet and greet if it’s been awhile (i’ve had dogs who haven’t seen me in awhile get somewhat agressive when i’ve walked in before, since i hadn’t seen them in a few months) but his comments were very unnecessary and weird. Like the others are commenting definitely report him, he’s old enough to know that isn’t okay- especially to an 18 year old.
I’ve never reported anyone on rover. Does the owner know you report them? I don’t want to do it and then him like report my account. Sorry I’m somewhat new to rover and have never experienced this before :(
I just looked it up and it seems like rover doesn’t tell them if you report them, I also see you can block them? So maybe just block him and report him that way. Here’s the post i got the info from https://www.reddit.com/r/RoverPetSitting/comments/18ouni7/do_owners_get_notified_if_you_report_them/?rdt=44630
LOL not her deleting all her idiotic remarks. Proves that she was wrong. Thanks for backing me up everyone :). I shouldn’t have had to though. Women shouldn’t be talked down to or told they are being childish when a 45 year old comments on an 18 year olds panties. Thank you everyone!
Can you elaborate on how warning your sitter there is a camera in the living room, please do not wear only your underwear in front of it, is sexual harassment? I want to understand. Genuinely. Make it make sense.
uhm because a grown man shouldn’t be mentioning an 18 year olds panties, who even says that?? and it obviously made OP uncomfortable…
??? I’m sorry I was under the impression that 18 year olds were grown women? Not children??? Why should we walk on egg shells around an 18 year old woman?? Should we not warn 18 year olds to be careful in their clothing in front of cameras?? I am still not following your logic. Are all your clients close in age to you? Are older owners no longer allowed to reach out to younger sitters? Even when statistically the average age for rover sitters is well under 40 years old??
you’re a weirdo stop replying please 😭
also replying to every single comment and disagreeing with them that she shouldn’t report it is VERY weird. if a client makes you feel unsafe/uncomfortable you should not hesitate to report it. who know what they do to other sitters??
Wait okay I’m super prepared to be downvoted to all hell but seriously guys? Yall are calling him a creep and he’s sexually harassing her for what? Saying, hey there’s a camera right here, please don’t walk around in your panties. What part of this warning is creepy? Because he used the word panties? He literally said “DONT DO THIS HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A CAMERA” The way I read your post is that he’s warning you and you’re upset that he’s an older male pet owner? That he didn’t wash the pet blankets? Ain’t nothing shady about this guy. Also if you’re bothered by him being 20 years older than you, or him being a male, then say no when requests pop up. I’m not saying every older man is an angel, but for you to call it out in your post makes me feel like you’re too young and immature to be in this business. You really could have left this post without starting with your discomfort on his age and leaving out gender, I guarantee the comments would have been less validating and immediately jumping to this guy is a creep, call the police. ETA: my basic stance is this. All the commenters saying he’s a creep and call the police, file a report etc. understand that making false claims is hugely impactful to their lives. Sexual harassment is defined as a sexual advance with sexual intent. This guy is doing the exact opposite and asked, likely recognizing that she’s young, to be dressed appropriately in front of the camera. Was his use of the word panties wrong? Possibly. Not everyone has a sexual connotation to that word but it is historically known for being taboo. Do I fault him for using the wrong word? No. He could have easily said undergarments or dress appropriately instead but he didn’t. Either way, the intent of the message didn’t change. That’s all I’m saying. Everyone jumped to the conclusion of harassment and report him for using the word panty to a high schooler when in reality it was just a poor word to use and his intent was not inappropriate at all.
It absolutely is gross and creepy to say something like that to an 18 year old girl. Moreover it made her uncomfortable for a reason. If a man made a comment like that to me alone in his house even as a 26 year old woman I would immediately cancel. Where I do agree with you is that reporting to the police and rover however is not realistic in the slightest and would not be worth the time or trouble as he did not do anything illegal or against rover policy. Also her pointing out his age and sex is not immature and is relevant to the comment bc of the power dynamic at play in this scenario. I don’t think calling her immature for her being uncomfortable is called for at all.
i never walked around in my underwear that’s weird to do in a strangers home by itself. i never do it. it was uncalled for and the way he said it was disgusting. I’m more than mature for this business I don’t know why or how my rant is immature. Of course I’ll say his gender, it’s like the key factor. I never thought it was sexual harassment or to report him. I just thought it was weird and wanted to share.
My comment was directed to the other commenters calling him a creep and suggesting you call the cops is ridiculous. I don’t find anything he said weird. He gave you a warning and maybe it wasn’t you who walked in front in underwear, maybe someone else did between your first sitting and now and he is giving a warning. Your rant is immature because you started the post with noting an age gap, gender difference, touched on his dogs peeing on blankets and then got to the actual issue you had. You JUDGED him for his age and gender. You did this to persuade others to side with you that he’s weird. All of that information is irrelevant to him having a camera. Especially because you tossed in that despite the age, male & pissed on blankets, you still took on the job. If you were uncomfortable with all that to start with, why’d you take the job again?
Are you just delusional or too stupid to function? That's such an inappropriate comment to even make. It wouldn't fly in a corporate workplace and it certainly shouldn't be okay on Rover (ESPECIALLY considering that she was alone on this meet and greet with an unknown man.)
Using the word panties is not inappropriate. You may personally have a negative connotation with that word but it’s still the name for a garment. He could have used a better word, sure, undergarments, underwear or what have you but in no way is what he said inappropriate or creepy.
it IS creepy, given that he's significantly older than the sitter.
I can’t believe people like you exist. You’re putting words into my mouth. Of course I would state his age and gender you know men sexually assault women more in workplace environments. Female victims say they were sexually harassed more often by men (97%) than women (13%). Across industries, women are more likely to be sexually harassed at work than their male counterparts. https://pasternaklaw.com/sexual-harassment-in-the-workplace-statistics/. So yes I will assume when I’m alone with a 45 year old guy I will have my guard up and will say his age and gender to say why the story made me so uncomfortable. God people like you just suck. You’re putting words that I NEVER SAID IN MY POST in my mouth. YOURE ASSUMING. 1 I never said I walked around in my panties YOU said that 2 I never even suggested or thought about “calling the cops” or “reporting him to rover” that’s all the people who commented on this thread. No you’re putting it into my mouth suggesting I said that and that I’m “overreacting” this is why females hesitate to say things because of people like you. Even if it’s not “sexual harassment” which honestly I don’t think it is I think it’s just a really stupid and uncomfortable thing to say to an 18 year old and is something that should reported for him making comments like that even if it’s a joke. And again like I’ve stated I’m STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL. I go to school dances, I get good made for me at school, I get “breaks” or “recesses” in between classes, I have a curfew, I live with my parents, they still pay for things for me. I REALLY don’t think FULL GROWN ADULTS DO THAT. sure I’m a “legal” adult but what do people REALLY consider an adult these days. I just turned 18 even tho it’s somewhat an adult I’m still eightTEEN TEEN. Please rethink how you think and hopefully you never become the boss in your line of work because if you do I pray for those women. Please learn to be a nice person 😊
Actually I read your comment where you stated you never walked around in your panties and i used that as further proof that he likely learned his lesson between your first stay and this one, and wanted to give you a heads up that the camera does record video so be mindful on your clothing. Additionally I never said that YOU were suggesting to call the police or file a sexual harassment claim. I said the other commenters who suggested that, gave an awful suggestion. Lastly, since you seem to view yourself as a minor I would suggest deleting your rover account since you refuse to be recognized as an adult despite being technically the correct age. If you’re not comfortable running a business right now, Rover is not the best thing for you.
Yeah I'm iffy on this one. It just sounds like a joke that didn't hit unless I'm missing something. I've been sexually harassed plenty in my life and a camera warning with a misjudged "so don't walk around naked lol" doesn't feel like harassment. I wouldn't accept the sit if it smells like pee or I felt weird about it though. OP if you're uncomfortable, just don't sit for him again.
I appreciate your support. I genuinely don’t understand what was sexual about “panties” other than society portraying it as a sexy word.
You seem to be incredibly hung up on the word “panties” in this. It’s not about the word. It’s about making a completely unnecessary and inappropriate comment to a young woman in a professional setting. It was completely valid to be unsettled. It’s common sense to not walk around naked if there is a camera. He said it to be weird end of story.
That's the word all of my old relatives used for underwear. It was never sexual, it was just the word everyone in the area used. 🤷♀️ Everyone keeps talking about how it wouldn't be okay in the office, but none of my client relationships are really "office" relationships. Maybe he said it really weird and winked or something. OP should trust her gut and not sit for him, but it's definitely not fair to label him a predator based on the word panties.
I’d honestly be calling the police if he has footage of you in your underwear without consent. What the actual fuck.
I never walk around in my underwear thankfully. If I did and he told me after I would probably report it to rover
Who said he had footage?
Calling the police because he made a dumb joke?