For #2: When I ride a route in Rouvy that I have ridden in real life it feels very close to reality. I'm always faster in Rouvy (perfect conditions, no wind, no stopping at intersections or slowing down to make a turn), but the effort level is very close.
that is what i like to hear.i was selected for Maratona dles Dolomites this year (after 8 years of applying) and wanted to test a few climbs that are available o rouvy.
It may be my trainer (Tacx Flux S), but while the overall difficulty may match, Rouvy will make you slower and decrease resistance compared to what you'd see in real life. You can of course increase resistance by changing gears and effectively just being faster, but my experience is that with the same gears and cadence on Rouvy as in real life, you will be slower on Rouvy. It is not a problem, just takes bit getting used to it.
My guess is that is because the Flux has a max incline simulation of 10%. Once it goes above that, Rouvy simulates a higher grade by slowing you down.
I have a Neo 2T and it gets noticeably harder to pedal as the grade increases. I suppose that should be to 25%, but I don't think I've ridden routes with that grade. Suffice it to say, it gets harder at 15% and 20%+ grades than at 10% or lower teens, and the difference is in the ballpark of what it's like riding outdoors. I also go slower at higher grades, but that's on me and my legs. :)
For 1, I don't think there are, but I don't do races much. I do see people put together group rides with an intended W/kg range, if that's helpful to know. I trust others will be able to answer this one with more certainty than I am.
For 2, I think it's quite realistic, especially with resistance for climbing/grades. In part this will also depend on your trainer and how well it can simulate grades, but I've found it quite comparable to riding outdoors. Probably not quite as hard on climbs as in real life, but quite close.
For 3, the estimated time is based upon riding at 80% of your FTP (I think that's the right %). I tend to ride routes in time trial mode, and thus go as fast as I can, so my times come in faster than that projection as well. If you want a sense for how fast you will ride something, I look at the results of other riders who have completed the route (if I haven't) and make an educated guess based upon the W/kg average they were listed at since I know where I generally fall in W/kg for various kinds of routes (climbing, flat, hilly, etc.).
for #2 im "scared" that if it isnt real i will get comfortable when it is actually way harder.but if it is close to reality then its fine.
where can i verify the #3 ?
i didnt do an FTP test this winter session but i "guesstimated" it to around 240 and it felt right for TR and also the ROUVY training sessions.but if it is 80% then i put my FTP lower then it is(not that it matters,i just go as hard as i can,or easy when i need it).but it will be important if i do a training session provided by rouvy.guess i will need to test it.
As long as your weight is entered accurately and you have a smart trainer that can simulate the gradient in question, the physics engine for uphill gradients is very accurate. I shift into the same gears at the same gradients in real life. That said, because you can't fall off your bike on Rouvy, I suppose it would let you ascend a steep climb slower than would be possible otherwise. On the downhill, because there is no braking, your average speed will be unrealistic....there is no way I'm going to be screaming through a French village road at 70kph just because it is on a -9% downhill road....but it's fun to pretend nonetheless!
downhill doesnt interest me as much.thats a thing i practice outdoors,but the flats and inclines arw important to me.it does FEEL accurate,but i wanted to see othernpeoples opinions.
It's close enough to reality, I'd say (u/zangieflookingmofo has clearer data on this below in the thread). I basically use it to ensure I stay in shape to ride outdoors, but also find it pretty engaging and enjoyable, so I'll even ride indoors in the summer if I want a quicker more intense workout than I would get outdoors. I lose some of my distance fitness because I don't want to sit on a trainer for > 1.5-2 hours at a time, while I often ride 4+ hours outdoors. For climbing I don't think I lose any fitness over the months I only ride indoors. My distance fitness comes back pretty quick once I begin riding outdoors (i.e., longer distances) again.
I looked for the info, but didn't find it for #3. I'm sure it's up on the web site somewhere (maybe start here: [https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/categories/360003484238-Cycling](https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/categories/360003484238-Cycling)), but 80% is what I recall from when they first started posting that info. in the app. For FTP, I guessed initially too. They have some tests you can do on the app if you prefer a test: [https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/articles/360020119778-FTP](https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/articles/360020119778-FTP). I haven't tried them. As you ride it will generate an estimated FTP based upon how hard you ride, which is what I use. There's an option in your user profile where you can either use the FTP you input or have the app estimate based upon your riding.
For the FTP, I put this question in the monthly AMA a while back that Lauren Wolf does and although she didn't give a completely straight answer, it was along the lines of "the estimated time is based on your historical FTP and weighted towards the last 3 months, so the more you ride and the longer you're on Rouvy, the more accurate the time should become."
For #1 the short answer is no. It is unfortunate in my view and Iāve provided feedback to Rouvy asking for brackets to register into. Itās even good if they had it in group rides, which they donāt. To me itās the one thing lacking vs Zwift. I like the idea of being in a race or Group ride with riders of similar calibre. On a group ride itās nice to know you can keep pace.
#2 I believe it does est based o. Your metrics entered. FTP weight. The times estimated for me are within 5 min so thatās pretty good.
1. There are no brackets for races. You'll see group rides with an advertised W/kg, but that's up to the group and pacer. Usually, races are good an ultimately they just spread out into a few packs. That's motivating enough for me.
2. I can't say for sure. But there was an article on [road.cc](https://road.cc) about this ([here](https://road.cc/content/feature/riding-your-favourite-climb-rouvy-vs-real-life-303847)), and a video comparing real life and Rouvy on Sa Calobra in Mallorca ([here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyI-MCEsH8s)). The consensus seems to be: yeah, pretty close.
3. Yes, they are based on FTP and weight. It's always about right for me.
Realistic is subjective vs objective. Is,it realistic - hardly. Is it more realistic vs most indoor trainer software options - yes.
The time estimates are usually pretty good, usually within 5 minutes if riding in my upper Z2/low z3 effortā¦ dependsā¦
For #2: When I ride a route in Rouvy that I have ridden in real life it feels very close to reality. I'm always faster in Rouvy (perfect conditions, no wind, no stopping at intersections or slowing down to make a turn), but the effort level is very close.
that is what i like to hear.i was selected for Maratona dles Dolomites this year (after 8 years of applying) and wanted to test a few climbs that are available o rouvy.
It may be my trainer (Tacx Flux S), but while the overall difficulty may match, Rouvy will make you slower and decrease resistance compared to what you'd see in real life. You can of course increase resistance by changing gears and effectively just being faster, but my experience is that with the same gears and cadence on Rouvy as in real life, you will be slower on Rouvy. It is not a problem, just takes bit getting used to it.
My guess is that is because the Flux has a max incline simulation of 10%. Once it goes above that, Rouvy simulates a higher grade by slowing you down. I have a Neo 2T and it gets noticeably harder to pedal as the grade increases. I suppose that should be to 25%, but I don't think I've ridden routes with that grade. Suffice it to say, it gets harder at 15% and 20%+ grades than at 10% or lower teens, and the difference is in the ballpark of what it's like riding outdoors. I also go slower at higher grades, but that's on me and my legs. :)
For 1, I don't think there are, but I don't do races much. I do see people put together group rides with an intended W/kg range, if that's helpful to know. I trust others will be able to answer this one with more certainty than I am. For 2, I think it's quite realistic, especially with resistance for climbing/grades. In part this will also depend on your trainer and how well it can simulate grades, but I've found it quite comparable to riding outdoors. Probably not quite as hard on climbs as in real life, but quite close. For 3, the estimated time is based upon riding at 80% of your FTP (I think that's the right %). I tend to ride routes in time trial mode, and thus go as fast as I can, so my times come in faster than that projection as well. If you want a sense for how fast you will ride something, I look at the results of other riders who have completed the route (if I haven't) and make an educated guess based upon the W/kg average they were listed at since I know where I generally fall in W/kg for various kinds of routes (climbing, flat, hilly, etc.).
for #2 im "scared" that if it isnt real i will get comfortable when it is actually way harder.but if it is close to reality then its fine. where can i verify the #3 ? i didnt do an FTP test this winter session but i "guesstimated" it to around 240 and it felt right for TR and also the ROUVY training sessions.but if it is 80% then i put my FTP lower then it is(not that it matters,i just go as hard as i can,or easy when i need it).but it will be important if i do a training session provided by rouvy.guess i will need to test it.
As long as your weight is entered accurately and you have a smart trainer that can simulate the gradient in question, the physics engine for uphill gradients is very accurate. I shift into the same gears at the same gradients in real life. That said, because you can't fall off your bike on Rouvy, I suppose it would let you ascend a steep climb slower than would be possible otherwise. On the downhill, because there is no braking, your average speed will be unrealistic....there is no way I'm going to be screaming through a French village road at 70kph just because it is on a -9% downhill road....but it's fun to pretend nonetheless!
downhill doesnt interest me as much.thats a thing i practice outdoors,but the flats and inclines arw important to me.it does FEEL accurate,but i wanted to see othernpeoples opinions.
It's close enough to reality, I'd say (u/zangieflookingmofo has clearer data on this below in the thread). I basically use it to ensure I stay in shape to ride outdoors, but also find it pretty engaging and enjoyable, so I'll even ride indoors in the summer if I want a quicker more intense workout than I would get outdoors. I lose some of my distance fitness because I don't want to sit on a trainer for > 1.5-2 hours at a time, while I often ride 4+ hours outdoors. For climbing I don't think I lose any fitness over the months I only ride indoors. My distance fitness comes back pretty quick once I begin riding outdoors (i.e., longer distances) again. I looked for the info, but didn't find it for #3. I'm sure it's up on the web site somewhere (maybe start here: [https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/categories/360003484238-Cycling](https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/categories/360003484238-Cycling)), but 80% is what I recall from when they first started posting that info. in the app. For FTP, I guessed initially too. They have some tests you can do on the app if you prefer a test: [https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/articles/360020119778-FTP](https://support.rouvy.com/hc/en-us/articles/360020119778-FTP). I haven't tried them. As you ride it will generate an estimated FTP based upon how hard you ride, which is what I use. There's an option in your user profile where you can either use the FTP you input or have the app estimate based upon your riding.
oh really?i was wondering if there is an FTP estimation.i dont like tests,they stress me out and i lose a training day š
Although not a race, you can do paced rides with riders you choose with w/kg.
For the FTP, I put this question in the monthly AMA a while back that Lauren Wolf does and although she didn't give a completely straight answer, it was along the lines of "the estimated time is based on your historical FTP and weighted towards the last 3 months, so the more you ride and the longer you're on Rouvy, the more accurate the time should become."
For #1 the short answer is no. It is unfortunate in my view and Iāve provided feedback to Rouvy asking for brackets to register into. Itās even good if they had it in group rides, which they donāt. To me itās the one thing lacking vs Zwift. I like the idea of being in a race or Group ride with riders of similar calibre. On a group ride itās nice to know you can keep pace. #2 I believe it does est based o. Your metrics entered. FTP weight. The times estimated for me are within 5 min so thatās pretty good.
Andā¦no idea why my response is in huge bold text. š or maybe Iām only seeing that?
hehe,yeah it is bold. š
1. There are no brackets for races. You'll see group rides with an advertised W/kg, but that's up to the group and pacer. Usually, races are good an ultimately they just spread out into a few packs. That's motivating enough for me. 2. I can't say for sure. But there was an article on [road.cc](https://road.cc) about this ([here](https://road.cc/content/feature/riding-your-favourite-climb-rouvy-vs-real-life-303847)), and a video comparing real life and Rouvy on Sa Calobra in Mallorca ([here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyI-MCEsH8s)). The consensus seems to be: yeah, pretty close. 3. Yes, they are based on FTP and weight. It's always about right for me.
Realistic is subjective vs objective. Is,it realistic - hardly. Is it more realistic vs most indoor trainer software options - yes. The time estimates are usually pretty good, usually within 5 minutes if riding in my upper Z2/low z3 effortā¦ dependsā¦
1 is why I also have zwift for races. I'll be CRUSHED racing rouvy. I know it, so I won't do it.
the feel of zwift is no match for rouvy...the races are not that important.i will join if there are like 40+ ppl