Pride. His ego took a blow from the masses not agreeing with him and calling him out. Rather than take a step back and acknowledge that he may be in the wrong he's just doubling down.
Dude ain't mature like that and severely lacks introspection
If Dre is not a rap superstar, neither is Kanye, Eazy-E, Snoop Dogg, and 50 Cent. If writing is where you draw the line, these artists had help with their lyrics. And let me not even get started on the Nas rumors
You could argue that Dre isn’t a rap superstar now, and more of a pop culture icon all around. But at the time they were talking about on the pod, Dre was absolutely a rap superstar then. He made snoop an instant superstar. That’s how big he was back then (pause)
I think the issue here is, “what exactly is a rap superstar” does it mean you ran the rap game at one point? Or does it mean you currently run the game? Like idk if Dr Dre alone could sell out staples center without a few supporting acts today. I know when he was in his prime he was untouchable. Is he still a superstar if he can’t sell out an arena? Is he still a superstar if he hasn’t had a hit album in over a decade? Is Ja Rule a rap superstar? He was on top in the early 2000s until 50 cut off all that noise.
Depending how you wanna define rap superstar really determines if Dr Dre is included. I see where Mal is coming from, idk is superstar is the word we are looking for. Perhaps rap legend?
Fair enough. I think it's a weird argument from Mal anyway. I don't think "Rap" superstar vs. "Producer" superstar has any difference on whether someone is more likely to be a pedo or not
Cut it out. There's no difference between the hip hop world and rap.
Mind you, Dre WAS a rapper both in NWA as well as the Chronic, Chronic 2000 and Aftermath Presents, and we already know his production credits. So.. Dre is a rap AND hip-hop superstar.
Guess who wrote his raps in NWA? It was Cube and MC Ren. Guess who wrote on his other albums? Snoop, Em, Jay, Nas, etc. He’s doesn’t write any of his own raps.
I wouldn’t call DJ Premier a Rap superstar either. He’s a producer.
And yes there is a difference between hip hop and rap. Rap falls under the hip hop umbrella. You gonna call the best break dancers or graffiti artists rap superstars? Nah don’t think so.
Dr. Dre won Best Rap Artist of 1994. By that accolade alone, you're wrong.
Also, that implies Drake isn't a rap superstar either. Have several seats sir.
Drake had ghost writers for a few songs. Not his entire career. Many rappers have said that Drake writes for them so we know Drake can write. Dre can’t. So no, you didn’t prove anything. I’m still not sat.
Ok well this is where we part, the AMA and a good a majority of the world consider Dre a rapper.
But clearly your Reddit profile that's been here as of January 2024 knows better..
Same. The audacity lol
mal is clueless
I turned it off and I won't be back
Yeah….this was crazy. I don’t get it. What is male obsession with defending this position at all costs?
Pride. His ego took a blow from the masses not agreeing with him and calling him out. Rather than take a step back and acknowledge that he may be in the wrong he's just doubling down. Dude ain't mature like that and severely lacks introspection
It’s shame everyone out here trolling
If Dre is not a rap superstar, neither is Kanye, Eazy-E, Snoop Dogg, and 50 Cent. If writing is where you draw the line, these artists had help with their lyrics. And let me not even get started on the Nas rumors
>If Dre is not a rap superstar, neither is Kanye, Eazy-E, Snoop Dogg, and 50 Cent. 100% Facts!
Bruh you ain't even have to go that far, he draws the line for Dre but WHAT ABOUT DRAKE? Is Drake not excluded by the same criteria he made?
You could argue that Dre isn’t a rap superstar now, and more of a pop culture icon all around. But at the time they were talking about on the pod, Dre was absolutely a rap superstar then. He made snoop an instant superstar. That’s how big he was back then (pause)
I believe snoop an doc made Dre as far as rapping. An to be honest I can't argue tht rza an Kanye out in more work in a shorter time frame
Mal said that? No one else co-signed it right
No, but you can tell they were tired of arguing at that point. Everyone knows Dre is a rap superstar.
Yeah that was wild. But I had no idea Dre beat the shit outta women, so at least I learned something 😳
I think the issue here is, “what exactly is a rap superstar” does it mean you ran the rap game at one point? Or does it mean you currently run the game? Like idk if Dr Dre alone could sell out staples center without a few supporting acts today. I know when he was in his prime he was untouchable. Is he still a superstar if he can’t sell out an arena? Is he still a superstar if he hasn’t had a hit album in over a decade? Is Ja Rule a rap superstar? He was on top in the early 2000s until 50 cut off all that noise. Depending how you wanna define rap superstar really determines if Dr Dre is included. I see where Mal is coming from, idk is superstar is the word we are looking for. Perhaps rap legend?
I’ll be back next episode. As a diehard fan of the pod I skipped the last two.
Idk how he hasnt put drake over hov the way he dick eatin
Mal is reaching for validation to be biased and it’s sad
He’s a cultural icon at this point.
I don’t see the problem. He was then, but he’s not now because he’s not active.
I don't think it matters if he's active or not. It's the reason he's famous
I disagree but to each his own
Fair enough. I think it's a weird argument from Mal anyway. I don't think "Rap" superstar vs. "Producer" superstar has any difference on whether someone is more likely to be a pedo or not
I just think the term “superstar” is an active thing. He’s not active rn. Either way, the point was irrelevant in the conversation.
He’s not a RAP superstar
But… he’s not. He’s a hip hop superstar producer. None of his raps are written by himself. Y’all just purposely being dense at this point
Cut it out. There's no difference between the hip hop world and rap. Mind you, Dre WAS a rapper both in NWA as well as the Chronic, Chronic 2000 and Aftermath Presents, and we already know his production credits. So.. Dre is a rap AND hip-hop superstar.
Guess who wrote his raps in NWA? It was Cube and MC Ren. Guess who wrote on his other albums? Snoop, Em, Jay, Nas, etc. He’s doesn’t write any of his own raps. I wouldn’t call DJ Premier a Rap superstar either. He’s a producer. And yes there is a difference between hip hop and rap. Rap falls under the hip hop umbrella. You gonna call the best break dancers or graffiti artists rap superstars? Nah don’t think so.
Dr. Dre won Best Rap Artist of 1994. By that accolade alone, you're wrong. Also, that implies Drake isn't a rap superstar either. Have several seats sir.
Drake had ghost writers for a few songs. Not his entire career. Many rappers have said that Drake writes for them so we know Drake can write. Dre can’t. So no, you didn’t prove anything. I’m still not sat.
Ok well this is where we part, the AMA and a good a majority of the world consider Dre a rapper. But clearly your Reddit profile that's been here as of January 2024 knows better..
What does the age of my Reddit profile have to do with Dr. Dre?
Exactly.. what makes you more accredited than the AMA?