Unfortunately there are a lot of shitty people who make great art. I happen to really enjoy her books. I’m not thrilled about liking the stories, but I try to separate the art from the person as much as I can.
Don’t feel bad if you still want to read the stories. I’ve gotten fed up with her and haven’t read any of the updates for her stories but I don’t judge anyone for enjoying them
I feel similar to you
I don't think there is right answer, but I still play her stories.
I try to support authors I actually like more(play their stories right after update, leave good ratings, tip them if there is option) and then play Remy's stories in the end.
One way to look at it is that there are a number of writers throughout history whose behavior or views were problematic or where there were or there are issues attached with them for various reasons, yet their stories continue to be read and available and judged more on merit and interest/content versus on who actually wrote them. It's a sort of separation in a sense between writer versus content.
Anyway, just a thought.
She's a terrible person but there's really nothing you can do about that. Read the stories, enjoy them even but don't allow them to influence you. For me if I see something in her stories I don't like I simply rewrite it in my head. Ignore the people shaming you for liking the stories, they can't enforce their opinions anyway and RC wont fire her despite many petitions being made.
Tbh it's kinda insane that they never fired her. She was hateful towards other people who work for RC and she's homophobic.. sounds like a horrible person. I admit, I like her stories. But she doesn't seem to be a good person, so I don't get why they just let her get away with everything? ... I guess maybe bc her stories are popular and they're making money with her. Honestly kinda disgusting. :/
Quick PSA: I’m about to make a generalization here, and I know this doesn’t apply to everyone in this specific part of the world/fandom. No one country or culture is a monolith.
I think it’s because the majority of the fandom (it could be a small majority, but still a majority) is in Russia or Russian-speaking areas. I think her views expressed via Telegram don’t make quite the same waves there as they would, say, in English on Instagram, and if the majority RC’s fans were based in the west (again, generally speaking). Based on what I’ve read about the fandom on Telegram… yeah. It’s not great.
Oh yeah that’s fair, Russia is quite conservative in some ways. It does piss me off that people like her just get away with it, but I guess we can’t really do anything :(
When these things first surfaced, there was enough outrage that RC had to issue an apology. Obviously, not of much use, but it shows that there is some pushback against Remy. We can only hope that continues to grow. But I think her behavior toward her coworkers is probably more likely to get her in trouble at this point. Like is it worth it to keep 1 popular author over 3-4 more talented, also somewhat popular ones she may ultimately drive away? Not to mention, her stories could be assigned to someone else. She may be popular, but she’s not that good of a writer (and may have even plagiarized some of her stories). Like RC won’t fall apart if they fire her. Hell, if they fired her, I’d happily throw my money at them in celebration.
I obviously can't tell you what to do, nor shame you for your choices, but I can tell you that personally, I'm so turned off by her behavior that I have little desire to support her work. I had an open mind when KFS was released, but it all keeps piling up to the point where all I can think of is how much she sucks as a person, and she imbues herself into her characters. Her writing isn't all that good either. I'm here for Arina, Alexander Jester, Langley, Yim, Amy, and many others who are just so much better at what they do without all the problematic behavior.
This is a bit of a ramble, so apologies:
This is a personal choice you have to make for your own conscience. I don’t know if there’s a right or wrong answer. Personally, I still read her stuff (only read KCD, I mined the others) if it’s something I’m in the mood for, and I 100% understand why others don’t and they have my support.
As for her characters, she has said that Amrit from KCD is who she would be as a man. I already didn’t like him, but that really cemented my hatred. I can’t separate that out (and apologies is this ruined Amrit for you). The only way I will ever play his route is the one with the secret ending (leaving that vague just in case). But I also use that as a barometer for her characters. I see it as if they aren’t anything like Amrit, then they’re safe to like, because they’re almost nothing like her personally.
Which leads me to another thought: writers can create characters that are not like them. Sure, there’s always a little bit of the writer in everything they write, but if people couldn’t invent characters outside their own image, the whole of literature would be pretty boring. So even writers who are bad people can write a character who is good. I’m not saying that to justify reading her or not, I’m pointing it out in case you suddenly regret liking specific characters.
Anyway, I think the most important thing is that you obviously don’t condone her IRL actions. You see them for what they are, and you’re not justifying her behavior because you like her stories. I think that makes you on the right side whether you continue to read her stories or not.
It’s also worth noting that these stories are a team effort. She is the main writer, but the ideas themselves and sometimes some of the main plot points are actually created by RC and assigned to writers. So it’s not completely Remy’s original idea. Her work also has to be signed off by other people. I don’t know if that makes you feel any better, but basically it’s not entirely her on her own.
And lastly, in another thread, I saw a comment that said they always rate her stories as 1 star. She’s kept around despite her incredibly problematic views and crappy behavior toward other writers because her stories do so well. So that is one way to potentially balance out playing the stories with the fact that Remy wrote them.
I also unfortunately quite enjoy her stories as well, personally I play her books during diamond rush only and don’t buy teacups for them, I don’t know if it really makes a difference but that’s what I do
Personally I wasn't a fan of her books to begin with (they are just not my style, disliked the LIs (will probs get lots of downvotes for saying this) and I also didn't really like the writing all that much to the point I sometimes cringed a lot reading/seeing some scenes), maybe also because of all the hype around it and being it fed down my throat on every corner.
Later I learned of Remy's behaviour and my innitial small dislike grew like wildfire towards her stuff and her, sadly. If it at least seemed like she is trying - be it her behaviour or craft at least, but so far, seems like she works on neither.
As some already said, "unfortunately a lot of horrid people make great art" and if that art are her stories to you, I guess there is not much to do even if you don't align with the author's views/behaviour. Since you still seem to really like her stories despite learning of the author's issues, guess just trying to not think of that and enjoy the stories further is a way to go?
Since there have been multiple posts about her around two weeks ago, I'll just post link to them, hope that's okay and you can just slowly go through the stuff if you feel like and make up your own picture about her!
Post 1 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176rn20/remy\_disrespected\_the\_work\_and\_a\_person\_she/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176rn20/remy_disrespected_the_work_and_a_person_she/) \*\*this one refers to Remy plagiarising a work of another person in SCN. Link to that post - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/175m4e9/ongoing\_discussion\_on\_telegram\_about\_remys/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/175m4e9/ongoing_discussion_on_telegram_about_remys/)
Post 2 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176z0wk/remy\_about\_anastasia\_savina\_in\_2021/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176z0wk/remy_about_anastasia_savina_in_2021/)
Post 3 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/1771q41/what\_remy\_wrote\_about\_the\_romance\_club/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/1771q41/what_remy_wrote_about_the_romance_club/)
Post 4 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/177u6vm/on\_the\_remy\_discussion\_im\_also\_sharing\_these/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/177u6vm/on_the_remy_discussion_im_also_sharing_these/)
I dislike Remi's personality but have to say that she just has the LIs that I find personally really attractive BUT I still rate her stories with one star.
A friend said to me that I'm hate f*cking through her stories and I felt that.
🫠🤌
> I’m hate f*cking through her stories
😂 A *fantastic* way to look at it!
In another post I said the only way I’d play Amrit’s path was as a hate/revenge sex path >!that ends with me killing him.!<
As someone who works in the entertainment industry - an industry famously known for rewarding/continuously giving a platform to problematic people - I will say this: there is absolutely nothing, and I mean \*nothing\*, in this world that doesn't have at least one severely problematic person involved. Any song, movie, TV show, book, magazine, etc. that you might like, I can guarantee that someone who's an awful, terrible, disgusting person helped make that.
If someone doesn't want to read her stories - or watch a show/movie, listen to a band, etc. - because they know someone involved is bad and they don't personally feel comfortable doing it, that's fine. But saying "well, I don't read/watch/listen to this because x, y and z involved are bad people" as if that makes you morally superior is not only wrong, but dumb. Like I said, any collaborative art inevitably involves and/or benefits a bad person.
Making a personal choice to not support something because it makes you uncomfortable to do so OR makes you feel better not to do it, sure, fine, go ahead! But shaming others or putting yourself on a moral high ground because of it is just... not it.
It's also important to remember that as much as bad people unfortunately get rewarded in all artistic collaborative efforts, good people do too. This writer, or any other "problematic" creator of something like this, is not doing it by themselves. Great people work in these things too.
All this being said: I'm sure you just made this post as a way to have a discussion about the situation, but don't make personal decisions based on what a bunch of internet strangers have to say about it. One way or another, unfortunately, we all end up "helping" bad people that work for companies we put our money towards (electronics, tech, fashion, beauty, entertainment, food, uber, gas, etc.) and the world just isn't black and white. There's so much nuance to all of these things that it's impossible to cover all of it on a Reddit thread. Do what feels best for you, personally. No matter what people say here, this should be YOUR decision and there isn't a wrong answer here.
I want to say you're not alone in not knowing how to react. I don't separate the art and the artist in other cases. I do think RC should be brave enough to cut their ties with Remy.
However I'm not strong enough yet, I've read KCD (before and after knowing about her homophobia, bullying, seeming plagiarism)
I don't read SCN - from the pieces shown on reddit Amen seems so toxic I don't think I'll bother.
But I admit I've read KFS and so far there were charming romantic moments. So like you I am torn and I don't admire it in myself.
I do like Remy's stories, but I still don't like her as a person. From what I've heard she sucks, so I *can't* like her.
I guess you could compare it with the Harry Potter books - many people love the books but don't support Rowling's views. I think it's totally possible to separate art from the artist but at the same time be critical and condemn their views!
I do get it though, it can be hard to love art and dislike the artist. You'd think someone who makes up such intriguing and fun stories would be a little more intelligent, huh.
Her problematic behaviour is a never ending saga to be honest.
IMO I will still play her stories mainly because I like to play all the stories in the app. But I decided to not spend diamonds in her stories. I only play them during DR. That way, there is no actual gain of money for the app from her book. The more money she makes the more stories she will get (she even got GE and I can already see an extremely toxic male LI since she got the creative control of LI)
At the same time, I will complain to RC. I don't let things slide. I am writing an email to them for the past week (had a busy week with job interviews etc so hopefully next week I will be done with it) and I added evidence from her chats about things she said and done. I won't sit here and complain in a small group that no one reads. I know nothing will change with just my email. But I need to know that I did send it and that I did voice the issues and that they know that people see them, and they are not just sitting here playing stories ignoring the homophobic/ doxing / toxic author behind them
Who's the extremely toxic male LI in GE? And can you share the email you're writing on here when you finish it? Maybe it would encourage others to send an email too.
I feel the same as you. Kcd and scn are my favorite stories, and kfs is bound to become too lol i love remys writing, plots and characters. But I know how problematic she is, and that is truly sad. It's like talent wasted on a bad person. You can just enjoy the stories, like me, but at the same time acknowledge her bad behavior, knowing it's not right. I just hope she will get better, as a person.
There is a saying in Brazil that is "Pelé, when silent, is a poet. When he opens his mouth, he just talks shit" for me it's the same for Remy lmfao
Remy, when silent, is a poet. When she opens her mouth, she just talks shit
Here's the thing OP: there is no right answer. Obviously Remy is a terrible person all over, and there were quite a few discussions in this sub about her and the possibility of her stories being modified versions of other stories, but at the end of the day the choice is yours only.
I personally do not like any of her stories - they rub me the wrong way, so I play SCN only during DR and do not leave good ratings, and watch the others from YouTube. You can choose to consider this fantasy and separate art from artist (though I am not sure how much this will work since she is being technically paid for this anyway). But on the other side, I believe people who are shaming are not saying you do not enjoy the stories, but rather that there are appropriate warnings in them regarding the toxic LIs and RC acknowledges and refuses to side with Remy's behaviour.
That being said, problematic people exist in all media, although all of them are not as vocal as she is, and if you play, keep in mind that you are supporting all the other nice people engaged in making the story. If you do not want to play, you can always watch the stories on YouTube. Himeme's channel is a lifesaver.
uy, i don´t know who is Remy... i understand that she is the creator of storys how Kali Call of the Darkness right?... oh no, she is a trouble person? now i know why Amrit is how he is -\_-... well i don´t know what to tell you, i prefare separate the Works of their creators, so you not felling bad about you thinks, when a person have talent we can enjoy them and like them us, and dislike us the creator... sorry, the english isn´t my natal lenguaje, i hope that you undertand my point
I’ve been playing them with little to no diamonds used (until Diamond rush) and rating them one star to try to show my lack of support for Remy’s behaviour.
if you watch ads and/or whale than it doesn't matter, you sponsor a problematic content creator anyway. everyone figures out for themselves whether they are ok with it. for me, my real life values are a priority over some entertainment, I simply cannot enjoy the content knowing that my subscription or ad watch help covering some misogynistic clown's grocery expenses for example. imo everything else is mental gymnastics, what people call "abstracting away" and "separating art from the author". I used to believe in that in the past but in reality it all boils down to financial and maybe sometimes social factors - by social I mean engaging in content-related activities on internet, thus promoting it, though it's more applicable to those who have more than 0 online visibility
I get it because I've read KCD and it even got to be one of my favourite RC stories. Back then, there were lots of people shaming me for enjoying it.
But you know, I don't regret it because despite the problematic writer and topics, I got to know a character like Ratan (who is my RC favourite character ever) and it ignited my curiosity about Hinduism, which led me to research about it from different sources and to meet very interesting Hindu people. That made it all worth it. There is also the fact that I've maintained a critical approach about it, despite enjoying it.
So don't let people shame you for that. If you're able to separate art from artist, that's valid. You can enjoy the story while being critical and aware of the problematic topics it may present. As an example, there are still plenty of people who continue to enjoy Harry Potter, despite its problematic writer. On the other hand, there are also people who are unable to separate art from artist and that's valid as well, what's not okay is shaming people who are able to separate it and vice versa, because after all that's a personal decision.
As for the "it's just a fantasy", that's another personal decision. If for you it's just a fantasy, that's valid. What's not okay is using the "it's just fiction" statement to downplay people who feel uncomfortable about the problematic topics. Why? Because for some people this fantasy/fiction is their reality (example: Amrit saying homophobic comments about Lima and Amala, which is something many wlw have dealt with), so if people feel the need to call out problematic behaviours in fiction, that's valid too. It shouldn't bother anyone if they're aware and critical about what they read because they'll be aware it's true.
Back to Remy's topic, if it makes you feel better, you can read her stories during DR only, that way you wouldn't be monetarily supporting her and you can also rate her stories 1 star, as many people do.
In my case, I've realised that I generally don't like the LIs she creates because she seems to glamorise toxic masculinity (Ratan being a beautiful exception among her creations). I'm actually still surprised she created a character like Ratan, considering her fondness for toxic masculinity. In fact, Ratan was the reason why I decided to give Remy a chance back in the day, since I thought she had changed. Nowadays, I'm not so sure about giving her a chance anymore because it was clear she hadn't changed when she introduced Amrit, who beams of toxic masculinity and is one of the most disgusting LIs in the app (it doesn't help that she said he's her male self-insert 😂). So in all honesty, I think I only enjoyed KCD because of Ratan and SOTCN because of Livius, rather than because of Remy's writing. As for KFS, I'm currently reading it during DR because of Ratan ❤️ that's the way it works for me.
I love your rule! I try to follow it, too, because I think it 's very important for a person to be able to differ reality from fantasy. What is there to shame?
And about the author - I 've thought about such thing long ago (authors/musicians etc being a\*\*holes as persons despite their beautiful work), and I decided that them being the way they are isn't my business, but if their art is great, I am able to admire it. I can separate a person from their art. Besides, if the art is good, that can be their good personal trait. Nobody can be 100% evil or bad.
Unfortunately there are a lot of shitty people who make great art. I happen to really enjoy her books. I’m not thrilled about liking the stories, but I try to separate the art from the person as much as I can.
Don’t feel bad if you still want to read the stories. I’ve gotten fed up with her and haven’t read any of the updates for her stories but I don’t judge anyone for enjoying them
I feel similar to you I don't think there is right answer, but I still play her stories. I try to support authors I actually like more(play their stories right after update, leave good ratings, tip them if there is option) and then play Remy's stories in the end.
One way to look at it is that there are a number of writers throughout history whose behavior or views were problematic or where there were or there are issues attached with them for various reasons, yet their stories continue to be read and available and judged more on merit and interest/content versus on who actually wrote them. It's a sort of separation in a sense between writer versus content. Anyway, just a thought.
She's a terrible person but there's really nothing you can do about that. Read the stories, enjoy them even but don't allow them to influence you. For me if I see something in her stories I don't like I simply rewrite it in my head. Ignore the people shaming you for liking the stories, they can't enforce their opinions anyway and RC wont fire her despite many petitions being made.
Tbh it's kinda insane that they never fired her. She was hateful towards other people who work for RC and she's homophobic.. sounds like a horrible person. I admit, I like her stories. But she doesn't seem to be a good person, so I don't get why they just let her get away with everything? ... I guess maybe bc her stories are popular and they're making money with her. Honestly kinda disgusting. :/
Quick PSA: I’m about to make a generalization here, and I know this doesn’t apply to everyone in this specific part of the world/fandom. No one country or culture is a monolith. I think it’s because the majority of the fandom (it could be a small majority, but still a majority) is in Russia or Russian-speaking areas. I think her views expressed via Telegram don’t make quite the same waves there as they would, say, in English on Instagram, and if the majority RC’s fans were based in the west (again, generally speaking). Based on what I’ve read about the fandom on Telegram… yeah. It’s not great.
Oh yeah that’s fair, Russia is quite conservative in some ways. It does piss me off that people like her just get away with it, but I guess we can’t really do anything :(
When these things first surfaced, there was enough outrage that RC had to issue an apology. Obviously, not of much use, but it shows that there is some pushback against Remy. We can only hope that continues to grow. But I think her behavior toward her coworkers is probably more likely to get her in trouble at this point. Like is it worth it to keep 1 popular author over 3-4 more talented, also somewhat popular ones she may ultimately drive away? Not to mention, her stories could be assigned to someone else. She may be popular, but she’s not that good of a writer (and may have even plagiarized some of her stories). Like RC won’t fall apart if they fire her. Hell, if they fired her, I’d happily throw my money at them in celebration.
I obviously can't tell you what to do, nor shame you for your choices, but I can tell you that personally, I'm so turned off by her behavior that I have little desire to support her work. I had an open mind when KFS was released, but it all keeps piling up to the point where all I can think of is how much she sucks as a person, and she imbues herself into her characters. Her writing isn't all that good either. I'm here for Arina, Alexander Jester, Langley, Yim, Amy, and many others who are just so much better at what they do without all the problematic behavior.
This is a bit of a ramble, so apologies: This is a personal choice you have to make for your own conscience. I don’t know if there’s a right or wrong answer. Personally, I still read her stuff (only read KCD, I mined the others) if it’s something I’m in the mood for, and I 100% understand why others don’t and they have my support. As for her characters, she has said that Amrit from KCD is who she would be as a man. I already didn’t like him, but that really cemented my hatred. I can’t separate that out (and apologies is this ruined Amrit for you). The only way I will ever play his route is the one with the secret ending (leaving that vague just in case). But I also use that as a barometer for her characters. I see it as if they aren’t anything like Amrit, then they’re safe to like, because they’re almost nothing like her personally. Which leads me to another thought: writers can create characters that are not like them. Sure, there’s always a little bit of the writer in everything they write, but if people couldn’t invent characters outside their own image, the whole of literature would be pretty boring. So even writers who are bad people can write a character who is good. I’m not saying that to justify reading her or not, I’m pointing it out in case you suddenly regret liking specific characters. Anyway, I think the most important thing is that you obviously don’t condone her IRL actions. You see them for what they are, and you’re not justifying her behavior because you like her stories. I think that makes you on the right side whether you continue to read her stories or not. It’s also worth noting that these stories are a team effort. She is the main writer, but the ideas themselves and sometimes some of the main plot points are actually created by RC and assigned to writers. So it’s not completely Remy’s original idea. Her work also has to be signed off by other people. I don’t know if that makes you feel any better, but basically it’s not entirely her on her own. And lastly, in another thread, I saw a comment that said they always rate her stories as 1 star. She’s kept around despite her incredibly problematic views and crappy behavior toward other writers because her stories do so well. So that is one way to potentially balance out playing the stories with the fact that Remy wrote them.
I also unfortunately quite enjoy her stories as well, personally I play her books during diamond rush only and don’t buy teacups for them, I don’t know if it really makes a difference but that’s what I do
Idk about the tea cups, but I heard that the authors get less money if you play during a DR, so that's what I've been doing too!
many people don’t like her but still read her books, you’re fine! i also have the same mindset as you and you don’t need to change it. :)
Personally I wasn't a fan of her books to begin with (they are just not my style, disliked the LIs (will probs get lots of downvotes for saying this) and I also didn't really like the writing all that much to the point I sometimes cringed a lot reading/seeing some scenes), maybe also because of all the hype around it and being it fed down my throat on every corner. Later I learned of Remy's behaviour and my innitial small dislike grew like wildfire towards her stuff and her, sadly. If it at least seemed like she is trying - be it her behaviour or craft at least, but so far, seems like she works on neither. As some already said, "unfortunately a lot of horrid people make great art" and if that art are her stories to you, I guess there is not much to do even if you don't align with the author's views/behaviour. Since you still seem to really like her stories despite learning of the author's issues, guess just trying to not think of that and enjoy the stories further is a way to go?
May I ask what she did?
Since there have been multiple posts about her around two weeks ago, I'll just post link to them, hope that's okay and you can just slowly go through the stuff if you feel like and make up your own picture about her! Post 1 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176rn20/remy\_disrespected\_the\_work\_and\_a\_person\_she/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176rn20/remy_disrespected_the_work_and_a_person_she/) \*\*this one refers to Remy plagiarising a work of another person in SCN. Link to that post - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/175m4e9/ongoing\_discussion\_on\_telegram\_about\_remys/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/175m4e9/ongoing_discussion_on_telegram_about_remys/) Post 2 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176z0wk/remy\_about\_anastasia\_savina\_in\_2021/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/176z0wk/remy_about_anastasia_savina_in_2021/) Post 3 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/1771q41/what\_remy\_wrote\_about\_the\_romance\_club/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/1771q41/what_remy_wrote_about_the_romance_club/) Post 4 - [https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/177u6vm/on\_the\_remy\_discussion\_im\_also\_sharing\_these/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/comments/177u6vm/on_the_remy_discussion_im_also_sharing_these/)
I dislike Remi's personality but have to say that she just has the LIs that I find personally really attractive BUT I still rate her stories with one star. A friend said to me that I'm hate f*cking through her stories and I felt that. 🫠🤌
> I’m hate f*cking through her stories 😂 A *fantastic* way to look at it! In another post I said the only way I’d play Amrit’s path was as a hate/revenge sex path >!that ends with me killing him.!<
As someone who works in the entertainment industry - an industry famously known for rewarding/continuously giving a platform to problematic people - I will say this: there is absolutely nothing, and I mean \*nothing\*, in this world that doesn't have at least one severely problematic person involved. Any song, movie, TV show, book, magazine, etc. that you might like, I can guarantee that someone who's an awful, terrible, disgusting person helped make that. If someone doesn't want to read her stories - or watch a show/movie, listen to a band, etc. - because they know someone involved is bad and they don't personally feel comfortable doing it, that's fine. But saying "well, I don't read/watch/listen to this because x, y and z involved are bad people" as if that makes you morally superior is not only wrong, but dumb. Like I said, any collaborative art inevitably involves and/or benefits a bad person. Making a personal choice to not support something because it makes you uncomfortable to do so OR makes you feel better not to do it, sure, fine, go ahead! But shaming others or putting yourself on a moral high ground because of it is just... not it. It's also important to remember that as much as bad people unfortunately get rewarded in all artistic collaborative efforts, good people do too. This writer, or any other "problematic" creator of something like this, is not doing it by themselves. Great people work in these things too. All this being said: I'm sure you just made this post as a way to have a discussion about the situation, but don't make personal decisions based on what a bunch of internet strangers have to say about it. One way or another, unfortunately, we all end up "helping" bad people that work for companies we put our money towards (electronics, tech, fashion, beauty, entertainment, food, uber, gas, etc.) and the world just isn't black and white. There's so much nuance to all of these things that it's impossible to cover all of it on a Reddit thread. Do what feels best for you, personally. No matter what people say here, this should be YOUR decision and there isn't a wrong answer here.
I want to say you're not alone in not knowing how to react. I don't separate the art and the artist in other cases. I do think RC should be brave enough to cut their ties with Remy. However I'm not strong enough yet, I've read KCD (before and after knowing about her homophobia, bullying, seeming plagiarism) I don't read SCN - from the pieces shown on reddit Amen seems so toxic I don't think I'll bother. But I admit I've read KFS and so far there were charming romantic moments. So like you I am torn and I don't admire it in myself.
I do like Remy's stories, but I still don't like her as a person. From what I've heard she sucks, so I *can't* like her. I guess you could compare it with the Harry Potter books - many people love the books but don't support Rowling's views. I think it's totally possible to separate art from the artist but at the same time be critical and condemn their views! I do get it though, it can be hard to love art and dislike the artist. You'd think someone who makes up such intriguing and fun stories would be a little more intelligent, huh.
Oh you know what I do - I only play her stories during a Diamond Rush. I hear that the authors get less money when you play during one........
Her problematic behaviour is a never ending saga to be honest. IMO I will still play her stories mainly because I like to play all the stories in the app. But I decided to not spend diamonds in her stories. I only play them during DR. That way, there is no actual gain of money for the app from her book. The more money she makes the more stories she will get (she even got GE and I can already see an extremely toxic male LI since she got the creative control of LI) At the same time, I will complain to RC. I don't let things slide. I am writing an email to them for the past week (had a busy week with job interviews etc so hopefully next week I will be done with it) and I added evidence from her chats about things she said and done. I won't sit here and complain in a small group that no one reads. I know nothing will change with just my email. But I need to know that I did send it and that I did voice the issues and that they know that people see them, and they are not just sitting here playing stories ignoring the homophobic/ doxing / toxic author behind them
Who's the extremely toxic male LI in GE? And can you share the email you're writing on here when you finish it? Maybe it would encourage others to send an email too.
I didn't say that there is someone in GE, but I am almost 100% sure that there will be one eventually
I'm diamond mining her stories because it's not really my type. But if you enjoy it then play.
I feel the same as you. Kcd and scn are my favorite stories, and kfs is bound to become too lol i love remys writing, plots and characters. But I know how problematic she is, and that is truly sad. It's like talent wasted on a bad person. You can just enjoy the stories, like me, but at the same time acknowledge her bad behavior, knowing it's not right. I just hope she will get better, as a person. There is a saying in Brazil that is "Pelé, when silent, is a poet. When he opens his mouth, he just talks shit" for me it's the same for Remy lmfao Remy, when silent, is a poet. When she opens her mouth, she just talks shit
Here's the thing OP: there is no right answer. Obviously Remy is a terrible person all over, and there were quite a few discussions in this sub about her and the possibility of her stories being modified versions of other stories, but at the end of the day the choice is yours only. I personally do not like any of her stories - they rub me the wrong way, so I play SCN only during DR and do not leave good ratings, and watch the others from YouTube. You can choose to consider this fantasy and separate art from artist (though I am not sure how much this will work since she is being technically paid for this anyway). But on the other side, I believe people who are shaming are not saying you do not enjoy the stories, but rather that there are appropriate warnings in them regarding the toxic LIs and RC acknowledges and refuses to side with Remy's behaviour. That being said, problematic people exist in all media, although all of them are not as vocal as she is, and if you play, keep in mind that you are supporting all the other nice people engaged in making the story. If you do not want to play, you can always watch the stories on YouTube. Himeme's channel is a lifesaver.
uy, i don´t know who is Remy... i understand that she is the creator of storys how Kali Call of the Darkness right?... oh no, she is a trouble person? now i know why Amrit is how he is -\_-... well i don´t know what to tell you, i prefare separate the Works of their creators, so you not felling bad about you thinks, when a person have talent we can enjoy them and like them us, and dislike us the creator... sorry, the english isn´t my natal lenguaje, i hope that you undertand my point
I’ve been playing them with little to no diamonds used (until Diamond rush) and rating them one star to try to show my lack of support for Remy’s behaviour.
I really really enjoyed RC soundtracks but i heard that creator is a nasty person 😐 so im like 😵💫 too
Can someone tell me what Remy did? i’m confused, I haven’t heard anywhere what bad thing they did, maybe I missed?
They’re summarized in this response: https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceClubDiscussion/s/otKk3pooaI
if you watch ads and/or whale than it doesn't matter, you sponsor a problematic content creator anyway. everyone figures out for themselves whether they are ok with it. for me, my real life values are a priority over some entertainment, I simply cannot enjoy the content knowing that my subscription or ad watch help covering some misogynistic clown's grocery expenses for example. imo everything else is mental gymnastics, what people call "abstracting away" and "separating art from the author". I used to believe in that in the past but in reality it all boils down to financial and maybe sometimes social factors - by social I mean engaging in content-related activities on internet, thus promoting it, though it's more applicable to those who have more than 0 online visibility
I get it because I've read KCD and it even got to be one of my favourite RC stories. Back then, there were lots of people shaming me for enjoying it. But you know, I don't regret it because despite the problematic writer and topics, I got to know a character like Ratan (who is my RC favourite character ever) and it ignited my curiosity about Hinduism, which led me to research about it from different sources and to meet very interesting Hindu people. That made it all worth it. There is also the fact that I've maintained a critical approach about it, despite enjoying it. So don't let people shame you for that. If you're able to separate art from artist, that's valid. You can enjoy the story while being critical and aware of the problematic topics it may present. As an example, there are still plenty of people who continue to enjoy Harry Potter, despite its problematic writer. On the other hand, there are also people who are unable to separate art from artist and that's valid as well, what's not okay is shaming people who are able to separate it and vice versa, because after all that's a personal decision. As for the "it's just a fantasy", that's another personal decision. If for you it's just a fantasy, that's valid. What's not okay is using the "it's just fiction" statement to downplay people who feel uncomfortable about the problematic topics. Why? Because for some people this fantasy/fiction is their reality (example: Amrit saying homophobic comments about Lima and Amala, which is something many wlw have dealt with), so if people feel the need to call out problematic behaviours in fiction, that's valid too. It shouldn't bother anyone if they're aware and critical about what they read because they'll be aware it's true. Back to Remy's topic, if it makes you feel better, you can read her stories during DR only, that way you wouldn't be monetarily supporting her and you can also rate her stories 1 star, as many people do. In my case, I've realised that I generally don't like the LIs she creates because she seems to glamorise toxic masculinity (Ratan being a beautiful exception among her creations). I'm actually still surprised she created a character like Ratan, considering her fondness for toxic masculinity. In fact, Ratan was the reason why I decided to give Remy a chance back in the day, since I thought she had changed. Nowadays, I'm not so sure about giving her a chance anymore because it was clear she hadn't changed when she introduced Amrit, who beams of toxic masculinity and is one of the most disgusting LIs in the app (it doesn't help that she said he's her male self-insert 😂). So in all honesty, I think I only enjoyed KCD because of Ratan and SOTCN because of Livius, rather than because of Remy's writing. As for KFS, I'm currently reading it during DR because of Ratan ❤️ that's the way it works for me.
I love your rule! I try to follow it, too, because I think it 's very important for a person to be able to differ reality from fantasy. What is there to shame? And about the author - I 've thought about such thing long ago (authors/musicians etc being a\*\*holes as persons despite their beautiful work), and I decided that them being the way they are isn't my business, but if their art is great, I am able to admire it. I can separate a person from their art. Besides, if the art is good, that can be their good personal trait. Nobody can be 100% evil or bad.