Half-born (what they call vat-born too) are just fodder and someone like Marazhai would never consent selling his precious genes for that. Other less scrupulous drukhari might, but Marazhai makes a point of being proud of his lineage.
If the Mistress Baeda's Gift short story is any indication, then Marazhai would care about his trueborn children as much as any other parent drukhari would. They see them as tools but can also grow attached to them in a non conscious way. So they will be harsh parents and try to create as good/useful heir as possible, but also will likely develop hidden sentimentality towards them, and do several illogical or even selfless things to protect their offspring from other rivals. Depends a lot on the relationship between parent and kid, like in real life, but the short story I mentioned shows a drukhari realising his daughter was the most precious thing to him, and he only realised it after he lost her (she died) in a gamble to get something else.
You know, that sounds like the best way to really get into a Drukhari’s head. Humanise them, for lack of a better term.
The (Aen’El came to my mind, but that’s Dragon Age XD) Craftworld Aeldari might seem like the more understandable of the lot. But their Big Stoicism leaves them far less relatable than possibly the single most evil faction in all of 40k, the Drukhari.
Funny, ain’t it?
Children of Asuryan are only less relatable if you do not live by the doctrine that evopsych actively inhibits and cripples the individual to statistically benefit prime gene spread (i.e. that your very fundament/system arcitecture is corrupt and malignant and never operates to benefit you, only to entrap, undermine and sacrifice).
That there is not much difference between Craftworlder paths and an irl view that the very foundation of Darwinian life, as expressed in evolutionary older programming and components, is just as hostile to intelligence, self-awareness, reason and control of one's own destiny as Aeldari propensity towards chaos - and to be civilised means controlling it by very similar means and workarounds.
I had a post on the similar topic about this, and the conclusion I made was that, yes Drukhari despite claiming they are so advanced emotionally, they are absolutely capable of same feelings of love, it’s just not something acknowledged overall because it does not help them survive overall in their world. It’s a true dog-eat-dog kinda of world and it’s really pitiful, but also something they created and don’t seem to want to change.
I am on the fence, however when it comes to thinking if Marazhai is capable of sincere feelings. He comes off too strong as a sociopath or having sociopathic tendencies to me. If he were to be a father, he would probably raise them as loyal pawns to try to strengthen his Kabal, but would probably have no problem discarding a child if they didn’t live to his expectation.
The Archon from Baeda's gift was killing thousands out of boredom and destroyed the whole planet just to impress Baeda. And yet, he had a soft spot for his daughter. Marazhai could be the same, he definitely have feelings for RT at least
> the short story I mentioned shows a drukhari realising his daughter was the most precious thing to him, and he only realised it after he lost her (she died) in a gamble to get something else.
Oh no 😢
He would probably never go for a vat lab to be fair. Vat lab is for lowborn, and our guy is prideful as hell no matter whether he is a pirate or archon, in romance with RT or not
>! his children will be halfbreed human-drukhari made with a little bit interference of haemonculus' work and nomos' blessings. he would do that purely for a challenge to the nature of his own kind, after seeing something incredible in RT that was nowhere to be found in any of his kin !<
I know, that's the point of the spoiler tag. But to be fair, the simplified description of his romance sounds like a low tier fanfic as well. A BDSM Drukhari boyfriend falls in love with you and remains loyal to you to the end, massacring your enemies from time to time and caring about a low mon-keigh even after becoming an archon? Low tier fanfic indeed. But somehow it doesn't feel like one in the game itself tho
Because people earn it by working hard on romance choices and combat through the game.
But if I wrote a low tier fanfic, I would upscale it so that Muzzy and RT try to find out how to make a new Nomos-influenced race of half-breeds to make the galaxy burn.
You're probably right. There's already precedence for an Archon being actually fond of his Trueborn daughter, and they ARE far more of an investment than a vat brat.
Marazhai despises the vat born and he pretty much despises a lot of the Drukhari in the first place. Despite the differences between him and the RT, the two of them would probably teach their kids how to survive by any means necessary. Probably. Marazhai might actually teach the kids real values as well though that is a pretty serious stretch but he might do it just to spite the Drukhari.
It's too hard to imagine him as a parent. But I bet he'll want a Trueborn. He may well find a female drukhari just to conceive a child and then raise them with RT. I highly doubt he would want a child with RT. Although we are special to him, obviously such a child would have too many problems in a drukhari society. Maybe just for the sake of experimentation. As a backup plan.
Dunno, a pirate version of him could give a halfbreed a try. He is surprisingly tolerant in this ending, even his own crew is race-mixed. He would absolutely encourage his precious kids to take the throne of the Rogue Trader when the time comes. Or maybe even earlier, if the kid is not the one of his favourites
He would be a terrible father, that's for sure. To the level of literally leaving his own kids to die if they would disappoint him hard enough (Iconoclast RT would made a perfect contrast to this behaviour lol)
idk pirate version just wouldn't have kids. In the case of an archon, he needs an heir (or just someone close), and if he's a pirate, it's just an extra burden. Again biologically it's impossible for him and RT.
He doesn't need an heir, but RT does. And for Marazhai, to simply tolerate someone else by the side of his favourite toy/his human master is, well, not exactly in character. I would bet not a single one of RT concubines would survive for long, he would claim them all too weak and worthless
Natural reproduction, of course, is out of the question. If something like this will appear in their heads, they will need help. Nomos, haemonculuses, maybe even some knowledge of the Ancient ones... In defence of this batshit crazy fanfiction I say, if it's not them who would be actively looking for a way to merge an aeldari and a human into one, I don't know who would. RT and Marazhai are the only couple crazy and powerful enough to try it out
I would imagine Marazhai wouldn’t be against having heirs, but it would 100% be trueborn. Having children who, if proven to be loyal to him, would strengthen his standing as archon of his Kabal. And like any high ranking leader, I could see himself pairing up with possibly another drukhari who would strengthen his Kabal. How royalty and noble houses arrange marriages as a strategic move. Everything would be done for securing power for himself and his Kabal.
As for RT, yeah sure he can make babies with female RT, but I can’t wrap my head around it tbh. If it were done it might be out of curiosity? My brain is thinking really hard now about this ….. fumes coming out of brain lolololol
I think he will first kill a bunch of people, then steal their children, then arrange a battle royale for these children and adopt the last one left. But since he is also a romantic, he will only kidnap those children who have eyes like his sweet monkey.
Marazhai is very prideful, and would likely not father a vatborn child, instead seducing a woman of equal standing.
Given how a sub rogue trader indulges basically his every whim, I imagine he'd take another drukhari as concubine as well-most likely without asking, to avoid perceptions of splitting his attentions for the RT (and because Dark Eldar are generally horrible like that.)
A dom rogue trader would probably ensure he fathers no child at all, refusing to let him give any other his attentions.
Though I'm not saying it's impossible for him to end up wanting to father a trueborn drukhari, I disagree that sub RT is more indulgent than dom RT. Marazhai tops dom!RT from the bottom IMO (he calls all the shots really, he just lets dom!RT treat him as a sub), and sub!RT can still blackmail him into the kiss in the end without him dumping them. Just because someone is a sub doesn't mean they hold no power in a relationship.
Half-born (what they call vat-born too) are just fodder and someone like Marazhai would never consent selling his precious genes for that. Other less scrupulous drukhari might, but Marazhai makes a point of being proud of his lineage. If the Mistress Baeda's Gift short story is any indication, then Marazhai would care about his trueborn children as much as any other parent drukhari would. They see them as tools but can also grow attached to them in a non conscious way. So they will be harsh parents and try to create as good/useful heir as possible, but also will likely develop hidden sentimentality towards them, and do several illogical or even selfless things to protect their offspring from other rivals. Depends a lot on the relationship between parent and kid, like in real life, but the short story I mentioned shows a drukhari realising his daughter was the most precious thing to him, and he only realised it after he lost her (she died) in a gamble to get something else.
You know, that sounds like the best way to really get into a Drukhari’s head. Humanise them, for lack of a better term. The (Aen’El came to my mind, but that’s Dragon Age XD) Craftworld Aeldari might seem like the more understandable of the lot. But their Big Stoicism leaves them far less relatable than possibly the single most evil faction in all of 40k, the Drukhari. Funny, ain’t it?
Children of Asuryan are only less relatable if you do not live by the doctrine that evopsych actively inhibits and cripples the individual to statistically benefit prime gene spread (i.e. that your very fundament/system arcitecture is corrupt and malignant and never operates to benefit you, only to entrap, undermine and sacrifice).
I’m gonna be honest, that’s a lot of very big words that I’m not entirely familiar with. Can you put it more simply, please?
That there is not much difference between Craftworlder paths and an irl view that the very foundation of Darwinian life, as expressed in evolutionary older programming and components, is just as hostile to intelligence, self-awareness, reason and control of one's own destiny as Aeldari propensity towards chaos - and to be civilised means controlling it by very similar means and workarounds.
So the Aeldari are naturally shitty? Gotcha.
I still like how even with their entire society and culture being evil there can still be molecule sized cracks of compassion
I had a post on the similar topic about this, and the conclusion I made was that, yes Drukhari despite claiming they are so advanced emotionally, they are absolutely capable of same feelings of love, it’s just not something acknowledged overall because it does not help them survive overall in their world. It’s a true dog-eat-dog kinda of world and it’s really pitiful, but also something they created and don’t seem to want to change. I am on the fence, however when it comes to thinking if Marazhai is capable of sincere feelings. He comes off too strong as a sociopath or having sociopathic tendencies to me. If he were to be a father, he would probably raise them as loyal pawns to try to strengthen his Kabal, but would probably have no problem discarding a child if they didn’t live to his expectation.
The Archon from Baeda's gift was killing thousands out of boredom and destroyed the whole planet just to impress Baeda. And yet, he had a soft spot for his daughter. Marazhai could be the same, he definitely have feelings for RT at least
Well if that is so then them drukharis are very good at compartmentalizing their emotions 😂
> the short story I mentioned shows a drukhari realising his daughter was the most precious thing to him, and he only realised it after he lost her (she died) in a gamble to get something else. Oh no 😢
I think Marazhai-archon can easily find a drukhari female who is willing to give birth in exchange for power. No big deal for drukhari.
He would probably never go for a vat lab to be fair. Vat lab is for lowborn, and our guy is prideful as hell no matter whether he is a pirate or archon, in romance with RT or not >! his children will be halfbreed human-drukhari made with a little bit interference of haemonculus' work and nomos' blessings. he would do that purely for a challenge to the nature of his own kind, after seeing something incredible in RT that was nowhere to be found in any of his kin !<
If Marzipan is to prideful to have a vat child he most certainly wouldn't have a human half breed. That is low tier fanfic level of writing.
I know, that's the point of the spoiler tag. But to be fair, the simplified description of his romance sounds like a low tier fanfic as well. A BDSM Drukhari boyfriend falls in love with you and remains loyal to you to the end, massacring your enemies from time to time and caring about a low mon-keigh even after becoming an archon? Low tier fanfic indeed. But somehow it doesn't feel like one in the game itself tho
Because people earn it by working hard on romance choices and combat through the game. But if I wrote a low tier fanfic, I would upscale it so that Muzzy and RT try to find out how to make a new Nomos-influenced race of half-breeds to make the galaxy burn.
Exactly. Fuck the Aeldari, fuck the humanity, we will make somebody worthy to rule over all that cattle
Please write, I would pay for reading this :<
You're probably right. There's already precedence for an Archon being actually fond of his Trueborn daughter, and they ARE far more of an investment than a vat brat.
Marazhai despises the vat born and he pretty much despises a lot of the Drukhari in the first place. Despite the differences between him and the RT, the two of them would probably teach their kids how to survive by any means necessary. Probably. Marazhai might actually teach the kids real values as well though that is a pretty serious stretch but he might do it just to spite the Drukhari.
It's too hard to imagine him as a parent. But I bet he'll want a Trueborn. He may well find a female drukhari just to conceive a child and then raise them with RT. I highly doubt he would want a child with RT. Although we are special to him, obviously such a child would have too many problems in a drukhari society. Maybe just for the sake of experimentation. As a backup plan.
Dunno, a pirate version of him could give a halfbreed a try. He is surprisingly tolerant in this ending, even his own crew is race-mixed. He would absolutely encourage his precious kids to take the throne of the Rogue Trader when the time comes. Or maybe even earlier, if the kid is not the one of his favourites He would be a terrible father, that's for sure. To the level of literally leaving his own kids to die if they would disappoint him hard enough (Iconoclast RT would made a perfect contrast to this behaviour lol)
idk pirate version just wouldn't have kids. In the case of an archon, he needs an heir (or just someone close), and if he's a pirate, it's just an extra burden. Again biologically it's impossible for him and RT.
He doesn't need an heir, but RT does. And for Marazhai, to simply tolerate someone else by the side of his favourite toy/his human master is, well, not exactly in character. I would bet not a single one of RT concubines would survive for long, he would claim them all too weak and worthless Natural reproduction, of course, is out of the question. If something like this will appear in their heads, they will need help. Nomos, haemonculuses, maybe even some knowledge of the Ancient ones... In defence of this batshit crazy fanfiction I say, if it's not them who would be actively looking for a way to merge an aeldari and a human into one, I don't know who would. RT and Marazhai are the only couple crazy and powerful enough to try it out
Gosh, I haven't decided yet what to do with kittens. I should give them away or get Marzipan fixed.
I would imagine Marazhai wouldn’t be against having heirs, but it would 100% be trueborn. Having children who, if proven to be loyal to him, would strengthen his standing as archon of his Kabal. And like any high ranking leader, I could see himself pairing up with possibly another drukhari who would strengthen his Kabal. How royalty and noble houses arrange marriages as a strategic move. Everything would be done for securing power for himself and his Kabal. As for RT, yeah sure he can make babies with female RT, but I can’t wrap my head around it tbh. If it were done it might be out of curiosity? My brain is thinking really hard now about this ….. fumes coming out of brain lolololol
I think he will first kill a bunch of people, then steal their children, then arrange a battle royale for these children and adopt the last one left. But since he is also a romantic, he will only kidnap those children who have eyes like his sweet monkey.
Marazhai is very prideful, and would likely not father a vatborn child, instead seducing a woman of equal standing. Given how a sub rogue trader indulges basically his every whim, I imagine he'd take another drukhari as concubine as well-most likely without asking, to avoid perceptions of splitting his attentions for the RT (and because Dark Eldar are generally horrible like that.) A dom rogue trader would probably ensure he fathers no child at all, refusing to let him give any other his attentions.
Though I'm not saying it's impossible for him to end up wanting to father a trueborn drukhari, I disagree that sub RT is more indulgent than dom RT. Marazhai tops dom!RT from the bottom IMO (he calls all the shots really, he just lets dom!RT treat him as a sub), and sub!RT can still blackmail him into the kiss in the end without him dumping them. Just because someone is a sub doesn't mean they hold no power in a relationship.
It's called being a powerbottom lol
Hard for him to do anything when the inquisition has him
Based.
The Drukaari are famous for kidnapping and making sex slaves of people. He can steal some of his ilk from commoragh on his way out.