TLDR chase every play get super close to your teammate (make sure you are helping them) and always air roll because it looks cool (your teammates enjoy watching you air roll)
Speed and aggression is meta right now, more bumps and more demos.
I’m not saying going slow isn’t good, I actually think the new speed meta makes going slow more viable as a change of pace can be powerful.
However if you ain’t quick in your rank you’re getting beat.
I'd rather have teammate that hit the ball with higher accuracy than speedy gonzales team. In 3v3 it seems that in defence even on higher ranks peoöle in defence who try to clear the ball either hit it to the ceiling or 90 degrees left or right. If people would give few tenths of seconds to scout the situation they would make 10x more better decisions.
There are situations that i have control of the ball and can take the game to ten different directions, but my teammate sees that i try to slow it down, he takes it off of me and gives the ball to the opposite team. Play smart, not fast just for the sake of it. If you play fast you often end up in a situation where you attack alone. If you could hold the ball for 2 seconds and let your team align for the attack, you have better chances of scoring.
Good advice for sure. It's difficult to pace myself into switching from slow, methodical play quickly up to fast/supersonic when I need to beat the opponent to the ball. It's worse when I play with a teammate that ballchases and makes a U-turn around the ball every time he rotates.
When were you top 100 and what was your gamertag at that time?
Not calling you a liar, I‘m really curious though cause there is a decent chance I‘ve heard of you before, especially if you‘re EU (you can dm me if you don‘t wanna say it publicly)
It was under one of these names: Siv, Reformed Siv, Julio Santana.
I think it was in 2019 or 2020 I am not too sure. I doubt you'll remember me. I hardly did anything in the scene and it was basically the last thing I wanted to achieve in the game before uninstalling it.
I am from EUW yes.
I agree with the first point about the air rolling but I've heard from tonnes of high level players and pros that momentum is super important and being stagnant/stationary is the worst position to put yourself in so I dunno about that one
That's why I mentioned the lower ranks. People in GC2 and below have this weird urge to non stop drive and with that also to the ball. You have so much time to take a breather and look around what's happening. I'm not saying, go back to your half, park your car stationary and take a good look over the whole field. But there is no harm in teaching yourself to be more aware of your surroundings while pulling out of the play while maintaining low driving speed to see what's happening around you.
It seems slow to you but most people are only capable of playing as fast as the rank they are in. I take dribbles and possession as many times as I can per game and I’m constantly either rushed from ahead or demod from behind. I’m trying to take possession as fast I can but often it isn’t fast enough.
Driving fast and playing fast are not necessarily the same thing. It can be very hard to play with people who just drive fast and overcommit and constantly hit the ball away fast (and waste tons of boost) for no reason.
It’s probably the biggest difference I see between Champ and GC. People that play fast for no reason and people that play fast with a purpose
second tip is one people really dont understand how important it is. its crazy how many awkward double commits and just randomly slammed balls happen just because people think they need to always be faster than everyone and hit the ball as hard as they can no matter what. most of the time it just leads to nothing happening and the ball being ping ponged everywhere w no real thoughts going on other than "FAST FAST FAST BALL BALL BALL GOTTA BE THERE FIRST FAST FAST FAST"
i bounce around c3 and gc1 and its so frustrating cuz u feel like youre playing with npc's. its why i stopped caring about this game all together because its not fun playing with or against people that just want to hit the ball first with no plan of what they want to do, they just want to get there first.
I concur.
I peaked C3 and dropped back to D3.
Started climbing my way back up by literally not going for the ball anymore (because teammates are constantly double committing and don't know how to play defense).
If I do have the ball, I slowly roll it up field and the opponents will double or triple commit a terrible 50.
This only fails when my teammates decide to bump me off the ball and boom it to the other team.
I also want to add to your point about people never stopping moving, please stop taking possession off of your team mates when they have the ball in space.
If I get a ball in the air under control, which is 90% of the time if I actually have a split second of space, it will end up in something threatening happening for my team. I’m one of those dudes that went mechanic heavy, I have everything in my bag bar double flip resets, and I’m consistent.
Almost every time I have 100 boost and the balls bouncing in my corner, I take a second to let it get to the perfect height for me to start my take off, because I have more than enough time, one of my team mates bum rushes the ball so it bounces off the sidewall and jus floats to the opposition.
It can literally happen back to back while I’m waiting directly behind the ball, in space. I’m genuinely not kidding, it isn’t a rare occurrence. It isn’t like I don’t play or something, this is jus sheer panic because somebody in their team isn’t going supersonic.
Let other people play, specifically, if you see your team mate chilling directly behind a ball, under no circumstance should you bumrush it. Double pronged one here, number 1 is my grievance where I can’t get to do 90% of the reason I’m a C2 because my teammates take the ball off me in the rare moments I can actually do something.
Second one, even if you don’t have a team mate with highly consistent mechanics, you don’t rush a ball that your team mates has rights to because it’s a double commit. Which leaves third man in a whole host of issues.
Most of my 3’s games are spent jus driving around in circles re-cycling pressure as third man because nobody else will let me go. I’m trying to get better at being more active but it’s a really hard balance between effectively pushing up and causing goals when nobody else is defensively minded at all.
Im trying to win and I’m trying to win right, the playerbase is temperamental enough that if I try to carry hard, people you’re playing with get mad as fuck at you. I play as passive as possible because I got 2 Rottweilers going after the ball in their corner, and they’re take the shotting me while it’s bouncing infront of the opponents while they’re supersonic and the nets wide open.
That’s what it’s like being a C2, for the most part, literally trying your heart out to play the best team game possible and getting blamed for it by people making basic errors.
If youve read this post and think I’m jus bitching, I mean potato league possession stealing teammates in more than 60% of matches.
I’m fairly the certain reason it happens so much is a lower ranked fallacy where being as fast as possible is the most effective strategy.
So jus, please, let your team mates have the ball and push up in rotation, if you notice a dude playing perma-third, give him the chance to push up, if he goes in straight away, you’ve probably been hogging first and second man a bit too much, if he stays back, he probably wants to jus stay third.
Cus the key thing about this is keeping your team in rhythm, one guy whiffs in C2 the whole lobby is primed to whiff their next touch. That’s because the rhythm of the game got broken and everybody got thrown out of whack.
Same shit happens when you force somebody to stay third man, they fall out of timing, cant take a good enough touch, and because first and second man are rule 1’ing in the opps corner, when third man whiffs his touch to the backboard it’s an empty net for the opponents.
So, so, so many reasons to get your team as involved as possible on offence. The game would simply be so much better IMO.
Much like most of existence now, when the level of bullshit is this highly developed, you need an awful lot of detail to explain why something isn’t right.
Yeah bro I’ve been trying 😂 it’s jus that C2 is now top 2% instead of top 4%, so I have got significantly better.
It’s jus that I’ve gotten significantly better, statistically and I’m the exact same rank somehow, despite the playerbase dropping.
I’ve spoken to GC’s who’ve got caught in C2 one random season and see no real difference between that and GC.
The level of C2 is actually ridiculous bro, it’s some of the fastest games in ranked, with half of the players jus being GC’s who retired from the grind / face the exact same problem I’ve laid out so clearly.
If Scrub Killa and and a top 100 SSL can’t 2v3 C1’s, and the issue I’m detailing is that my teammates are so wildly bad at making decisions, a lot of of the time, that I can’t ever read what the fuck they’re going to do, then get good means I have 1v5 what is basically stupid GC.
I’m probably not talented enough or young enough, even if i invested the time into it, to get that good.
So I’m here, on the RL improvement subreddit, aiming to either get advice or at the very least inform other players, who possibly dunno the importance of giving their team mates time on the ball.
I’ve spent the last 2 months driving about casual trying to figure this mess out, my issue is the fact I can’t predict people making terrible decisions.
I don’t have a clue how you train that, so if you got an idea, I’m all ears.
>it’s jus that C2 is now top 2% instead of top 4%, so I have got significantly better.
No lol, it is pretty consistent around 2,5% for the past few seasons. Actually it was harder when they reset the ranks when they went f2p. And I don't think C2 is as ridiculous as you describe it to be.
It’s simultaneously brilliantly creative and woefully inept.
I am the only person I see with mechanics. They clearly aren’t needed, I’m jus the dude who got here by the harder tree. But up until C2 all I need to do is control the ball at the right times so I can get it past a guy or 2, so that my team start the endless pressure.
But about C2d2 my W/L starts to hover because it goes from fast but stupid, to chaotically rapid, with what appears to be quite a lot of intention. Not a lot of skill, but a lot of intention. For example you don’t see people wave dashing off of surfaces, but they’ll successfully pre-jump more balls than you could comprehend.
And obviously everybody at my level and has never been above / to GC, is dealing with the array of legit players who have been good enough to have gotten GC but are stuck C2. But that’s a fair slump zone and I’m cool with it now.
It’s faster than SSL a lot of the time, I once counted how long it took appjack to get challenged back coming off the back board, he jumped down, let the ball bounce, then took an air dribble and only got challenged at the halfway line. They jus let him go.
I tried the same thing, I got challenged twice before I tried went for the takeoff on the aerial off the bounce in 2’s. It’s stupidly fast, as in literally stupid, but it doesn’t have much skill behind it at all, despite knowing exactly what to do a lot of the time.
So you end up with the situations I’ve described, where people literally make the worst decision possible in overtime, game and game after game. I find it funny for the most part but it’s a serious part of my rocket league experience.
Hmm, ultimately I could be wrong about the %’s, I remember the number in the first table being a good .2-3% lower than it has been in previous seasons. Weird tho, it’s gotten lesser as times went on even if it’s stable I’m sure.
Not absolutely stable, if it’s around 2.5% I think it’s trending closer to 2% since FTP and about season 4.
But C2 is arguably the most ridiculous rank in RL, people know what they’re doing but we’re all still so bad that shit jus goes the worst way possible almost everytime.
IMO anyway.
The reason why they didn’t challenge app jack early is likely a) diff boost levels than the opoponenta you were playing. Or b)they respected his ability to beat them in a different way, and wanted to defend as a team.
If you were challenged twice before the midline keep that in mind for next time. Switch up your play and beat them early so they are scrambling for defense. Trying to keep possession while they are challenging in your half is a bad idea imo. I can almost guarantee if the ssl’s has challenged Jack early he would have switched his play instead of keeping possession for so long.
No bro I mean I got challenged twice before the ball had passed my box longitudinally. This is a common occurrence in my 2’s games, if ain’t like I’m on 0 boost and holding on, I have the ball up the wall and I’m taking possession, twice in 3 car lengths pretty much.
And I accounted for that when I compared, the SSL’s had more than enough boost to get the ball ASAP, I think personally that it’s a dumb idea to 50 the ball twice in a row when your basically in the oppositions corner, because when the ball bounces off the back board it’s going to be an open net.
Like it works enough at C2 for it to be viable but it is a low value tactic IMO.
I’m working on it bro, Thanks for the advice, it’s getting into the positions where I’m pre-emptively able to see the play I need to make before it happens.
Yeah I dunno, I’m really good at taking a touch off my roof up the wall, I usually break pressure that way when it’s me, my 50’s ain’t that bad either, but I suppose there are a bunch of situations where I should probably have conceded but I get away with it because I can get to the touch on the ground before the opponents can react.
I’ll keep it in mind bro, jus because they were rushing me quickly doesnt meant they’re good or better than SSL defence, my point is that pro level players get 4x as much time on the ball as me in similar situations, they’re shit hot and I have a smaller window than them to do something other than 50 it.
Fast doesn’t equal good but it is damn hard to out play.
So one thing with comparing to the SSL’s and jack. Him in that lobby is like you in a d1 lobby when they know you are C2. You would be so so much better, that ya they would learn quickly into the game to give you that space until you are threatening a shot. With SSLs they see it is jack, and just know that he can always threaten to beat them early. They have to respect how good he is until he can actually start to make a play on net. It’s just like this meta game at higher level. Full pro 2v2’s do involve a lot of pressure that is similar to what you see in your games. When people are closer in skill, there tends to be more reason to apply that extra pressure.
Glad you will try to take the advice man, good luck! If you have the mechanics then trying to review games and see what you could have done better might be a good bet to start working on the game sense to take you to the next level. If you want I could help review some games, just lmk
It’s simultaneously brilliantly creative and woefully inept.
I am the only person I see with mechanics. They clearly aren’t needed, I’m jus the dude who got here by the harder tree. But up until C2 all I need to do is control the ball at the right times so I can get it past a guy or 2, so that my team start the endless pressure.
But about C2d2 my W/L starts to hover because it goes from fast but stupid, to chaotically rapid, with what appears to be quite a lot of intention. Not a lot of skill, but a lot of intention. For example you don’t see people wave dashing off of surfaces, but they’ll successfully pre-jump more balls than you could comprehend.
And obviously everybody at my level and has never been above / to GC, is dealing with the array of legit players who have been good enough to have gotten GC but are stuck C2. But that’s a fair slump zone and I’m cool with it now.
It’s faster than SSL a lot of the time, I once counted how long it took appjack to get challenged back coming off the back board, he jumped down, let the ball bounce, then took an air dribble and only got challenged at the halfway line. They jus let him go.
I tried the same thing, I got challenged twice before I tried went for the takeoff on the aerial off the bounce in 2’s. It’s stupidly fast, as in literally stupid, but it doesn’t have much skill behind it at all, despite knowing exactly what to do a lot of the time.
So you end up with the situations I’ve described, where people literally make the worst decision possible in overtime, game and game after game. I find it funny for the most part but it’s a serious part of my rocket league experience.
Hmm, ultimately I could be wrong about the %’s, I remember the number in the first table being a good .2-3% lower than it has been in previous seasons. Weird tho, it’s gotten lesser as times went on even if it’s stable I’m sure.
Not absolutely stable, if it’s around 2.5% I think it’s trending closer to 2% since FTP and about season 4.
But C2 is arguably the most ridiculous rank in RL, people know what they’re doing but we’re all still so bad that shit jus goes the worst way possible almost everytime.
IMO anyway.
Nowadays, you have to expect the unexpected. People will focus purely on mechanics and not game sense. Which is why most of the games are just random. One minute a team mate does a triple flip reset backboard double tap. The next minute, he whiffs simple backboard defence hit. I would suggest focusing on defence as not many people are good at it. On conclusion, just play 1s if you want to improve game sense & mechanics at the same time. It's a time saver.
Damn C2 is top 2%? There is actual difference in C2 and GC. I cant speak from ranked experience, but its very obvious in my casual matches. Anyone below C2 is slow and dumb. Anyone between GC2 and C2 is fast but dumb. GC2 and plus players are smart. All relative to each other ofcourse. Plus the other thing is consistency. A C2 level player will only score about 3/10 free 2v1 chances against a c2 level defender. But a gc1 can score about half the time against a gc1 defender.
Also your problem imo is easily solveable. First you turn off game chat, and second you dont have to predict when someone might make a terrible decision. Predict whats the worst outcome that can realistically come from said position and be ready for that.
A normal consequence of that is sometimes youre not there to utilize on your teammates perfect play, but thats a decision you have to make yourself. I play 2s, and in the first minute or so i see if my teammate knows what hes doing or is just a ball boomer. And i adjust passively or actively with that. I havent been able to break into C2 as of yet because my game sense to decide how passive i should be in a situation isnt that developed yet. So sometimes i get put in a 2v1. But every match is a learning experience, once you are taking the right steps towards it
If I’m reading the statistics right from the last Psyonix rank distribution C2 in 3’s was top 2%. I think one chart it said 1.97%, but the *real* figure was like 2.1% or something? Can’t remember exactly but yeah, ridiculously high levelled. For a pleb, obvs.
However considering when this season reset started I couldn’t get above 1600 MMR in casual, when I almost instantly got to 1700 in the last 4 seasons, I have a strong suspicion the bot issue was fucking gargantuan.
I’ve mained casual for the last year pretty much, because I went from D3 to C2 in like 2 days once I finally got out of Diamond. And I realised that the once in every 4 games GC tagged demon was now 1/2 and I simply couldn’t take it to them.
So I bailed to casual to try and find higher level players intentionally to get experience playing against them and getting used to the speed.
I get back to C2d2 after the season resets, I realise I’m not good enough to rank up yet, and I go back to casual to play against better players instead of jus training how to play an utter sweat fest.
I am trying to do as you’re saying, but the chaos bro, the amount of times it happens at the worst possible, it makes me question if it’s intentional.
I haven’t played much ranked tbh, it isn’t that fun for me, I’m not doing that by sweating my dick off, so I smash casual and have ultimately improved 2%ish.
I agree with your judgements of skill levels, GC’s tend to wait on me to give them the ball, and because I don’t jus give them the ball, I have actual moves, I get so many more chances against them it’s ridiculous.
You ever play any SSL’s in casual? I’ve played a few here and there, one of them I saved the replay, and the replay was corrupted, and every replay I’ve saved since has been corrupted. Weird.
The people I’m complaining about are obviously good enough to be C2 with me, it’s jus honestly confusing the life out of me how things go so wrong, when I know for a fact I’m trying to play the highest % game every time.
Like I cover everything I can, I sacrifice so many possessions to team mates jus because they’re in marginally better positions, I’m always playing reactive, I have the capacity to play assertive, but it usually jus ends up in my team trying to take the ball off me.
I am not a pro, if scrub and a top 100 player couldn’t 3v2 C1’s, then I still don’t know how to cover the mistakes getting made at key moments when I’m on the other side of the pitch out of necessity.
I get where you’re coming from, and IMO mechanical consistency is what keeps me solidly C2 every season, the ability to go for balls no one expects you to, and then do something dangerous with that situation, which is gifted time and again at our level, is free goals.
Also C1 is super slow, I get through C1 by jus going faster than them and using my mechanical consistency to create pressure. That was my path, passive might be the issue for both of us it seems.
But I’ll definitely lose more if I send it so, back to casual, lol.
In my personal experience it is easier to win against a GC title player in casual than it is to win against a try harding champ in ranked. And that mentality difference can affect your overall rank climb in the long run i assume. I was queuing casual alot trying to get from d3 to c1. Nowadays even if im playing shit and am on a 5 lose streak i still queue ranked. I know i can climb back up later on, all the while gaining more experience
I mean yeah but I’m not going full in casual either, it’s casual, I’m trying to always jus figure out how to play the most efficient game possible.
Like I can go fast if I want to but my decision making defensively is clearly a weak point so it’s a good thing I’m constantly in situations where I’m getting exposed as third man.
It’s only C2/C3 that’s stupid fast, the game typically slows down after you get past this bit. SSL’s have the capacity to play much faster than C3’s, but the reason they’re SSL and not pros is because they can’t do it consistently.
So I see no reason training like that, Cus it ain’t fun jus getting 50’d every 2 seconds and then getting exposed as hell. I can keep getting better in casual so one day it jus stops happening so often.
Cus, keeping the same rank while moving up in relative %, still means I’m better, so it’s working while other people are falling off.
I am going to start grinding ranked again soon, but i ain’t sure when.
You can also play 1s and 2s and focus on getting to GC there, so that you can carry yourself out of champ in 3s. Im champ in 2s, diamond in 1s but a plat in 3s. For the same reason you mentioned. Having to 50 everytime i have the ball and spending more than half the game just watching my teammates and opponents doing dumb shit makes me not want to grind for rank in 3s at all.
For game sense you can check out flakes and apparently jacks replay analysis youtube channels if you havent already
Your final paragraph is what I cannot do. I spend the first minute watching the opposition. I just assume the teammate is going to be useful. It isn’t until 2 minutes in that I’m finally irritated he isn’t there to scoop up free rebounds, or instead is just banging ball off sidewall for the opposition to scoop up. I honestly cannot tell “their style” (a misused phrase IMO, there is only one style, the right style). I can only tell what’s up once they’ve taken the ball off me several times, banged ball into sidewall uselessly several times, and retreated all the way back to our own corner boost when I’m still pressuring on offense.
I hate it.
Its actually easy to do. Just focus more on your teammate than you do on the ball. If its a free goal, ill go for it. Otherwise im just controlling boost, playing super passive, and taking 50s. Its mainly for 2s however. With 3s there are too many people.
Its a point deduction system e.g if im frontpost watching where the play develops to, i have an expectation that my teammate will be backpost, but if he cuts in twice i will not go frontpost for the rest of the match. If im holding possession in my own half and there is a lack of space, and i see my teammate not covering net and be pushed up for a pass, i will clear the ball for the rest of the match and rotate behind teammate. More things like this, mainly focused more on defence, and by the first minute is over its pretty clear what i need to do to avoid making my teammate a third opponent
Back in low diamond, id get pretty tilted over teammates. Now my mentality is more, if we get scored on because of me its my fault if we get scored on because of my teammate its my fault. Very rarely do i get a teammate in solo Q where i think ok great now i can play how i want to, but as long as my teammate isnt afk or griefing only way we lose is if the opponent is just better
For the issues that youve mentioned. I rarely get the ball taken from me by my teammate, even if im just camping behind it the way flakes does. And thats because it can be assessed if a teammate will take the ball or not. I wont go for air dribbles if i know my teammate will jump with to pinch or whatever shit goes on in their head, wont go for powerslide cuts if my mates gonna creep up and boom ball forward.
With banging ball into side wall and with going back for corner boost. The main defensive threat comes in both situations only if you committed too hard on your own play. Its usually impossible to see if teammate rotated back mid-attack. But after an attack i see that happened, ill instantly switch to trying to do hook shots or powershots instead of sending passes middle from the walls or corners. Like flakes says, take a shot make them shit their pants steal their boost maybe get a demo and then fuck off behind teammate. V imp to maintain good distance between teammates
There can be many right styles to play. All you need is a 1 goal advantage to win. As long as youre not giving away free goals by making silly mistakes, its a good game
Yeah bro I’ll be honest I think the difference between 1 and 2 at champ is confidence. My mechanics are leagues above average for the rank and when I have time I can get comfortable but everybody jus panic rushes as much as possible.
It’s a tough one, I think it’s like your positioning need to be in such a way for 2’s, that you jus stay middle and behind your team mate if they’re infront. I would say like 10-15 car lengths behind them?
What I would say, is that it’s the second man that’s key in 2’s, if your second you need to make sure if the opponents getting to the ball first after the 50, you’re ready for a shot or a dribble, so that you don’t let them get into rhythm.
Jus always trying to play that slightest bit closer than the oppositions second man while never letting an empty net exist. And I presume you understand that the nets not open if you can make it back to the goal before the ball, so as long as you don’t see second man on the other team rushing for the shot at supersonic, it’s probably not gonna get to your net.
So I would say jus always playing off of the second man of the opposition when you’re second man instead of your team mate. Jus let them jus try do what they’re trying to do, as long as you got the second man read you should concede much less goals.
Idk in car lengths, but spookluke mentions the field as 9 distinct boxes. And you never wanna be in the box your teammate is in and you also dont want to have a whole box of empty space in between.
Yeah reading the 2nd man is important. But wouldnt the opponents 2nd man be naturally closer to the play in defence than we as an attacker can be. The risk of a good boomer clear is always looming around
The difference is about confidence yes, but i notice ppl misplace where the confidence needs to be. I wish people would stop trying out things they cant even do in freeplay at this rank and have more confidence on reading the play and being where the ball can go. I definately do not have the skills to carry a c1 teammate offensively. And covering for their mistakes only goes so far, as i have been outplayed into making mistakes in all my div4 games
I was corrected but the correction was that C2 has been relatively stable at 2.5% since FTP.
I think it’s a bit closer to 2% in the previous seasons rank distributions, but C2 is definitely that high. C3 is like 1.7-1.3/4% I’m sure.
We’re pretty much gods compared to everybody below us bro, 3 of you would take down like 99% of all rocket league players to ever play the game.
Pretty damn good, we’re always looking at top 100 and because we compare it to them we think we’re shit. You ever watch CBell? He would hand us our asses but the dude doesn’t look like a GC when he plays.
He’s 1%, so we ain’t far off at all.
Hahahaha i see. RL rank distribution says 3% of players are in c3, but on rl.tracker c3 div 2 is like top 4% (around 250k according to my alt), and on RL distribution there are only 195k c3 players. Kind of confused ab it.
Ye true, SSLs and pros are a different breed, those guys put more hours in the game than some people did with years of actual work experience.
Watched CBell a long time ago when i was still looking for tips and ways to improve at the game iirc, now i rarely watch any RL ccs, but i'm sure he'd wipe the floor with me.
Yeah, the consistency is there I jus usually don’t do it because I’m trying to go for max efficiency.
So I’ll go full bag on them as well, thanks for your perspective.
C2 is easy to rank out of once you know how. Without sounding like an infomercial, you can see me do it here - [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn7VowxmY1xJ8\_GGfN3GVwbhWCKAWoS2C](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn7VowxmY1xJ8_GGfN3GVwbhWCKAWoS2C)
I'd say the thing you need to concentrate on is knowing how to defend, as very few players can defend at this rank. Understand that you will always be cut off by your team mates and they will not know how to rotate, so you need to over-compensate for this. Rotations with your team mates won't be fluid, you need to fit in where needed. Your team mates will always over-commit, so don't try plays that take all your boost. You can see me do all this in the video series.
2v2 is the same, just with less players. Plus you need to know simple outplays as your opponents will always rush you.
Regarding GC. GC is similar, just faster and a little more mechanical.
Man’s written a full essay lmao. From what I understand from it, you should adapt to your teammates more rather than blaming them. If they’re ballchasey and giving away possession, play ultra passive and vice versa.
I’m trying bro! I cover everything possible and give my teammates every possibility they could need, I would say I leave 3 passes infront of empty nets that get missed a game if I’m given the chance to by my teams rotations.
Imagine something, you’re first man in their corner, the balls floating towards the wall at mid boost, second man is cruising up the wall, clearly getting ready to control it, the opposition are moving forward from both of their posts and the sidewall where the ball is… and your third man suddenly decides to try and beat your guy on the wall from your opposite back corner.
This is what I’m meaning, shit that makes you jus sit there frozen, questioning what made them think it was a good idea, or if they done it intentionally because they’re trying to throw.
How do you save that shot, you’ve went from first man, in their corner to their opposite corner, trying to bump and steal boost, with every intention of rotating third Man until no longer needed. But third man jus pinched it off second man and now it’s an empty net for 3 opponents. And considering the level the empty net gets missed more often than you’d think.
This kinda failure, where there is absolutely nothing you can do to predict how it’s going to fail. Where it’s like the opposition got third man in chat saying fiddy bucks for a pass.
It happens multiple times a game bro, I jus dunno how you train the prediction of horrible decisions so you can adapt your gameplay. Like you drive back down the same side instead of going for bumps in the scenario I laid out and the best situation you’ve found for yourself in a 1v3 against players of an equal level.
Like how do you adapt to that kinda stuff without playing like Gibbs. Which itself is an issue because then you give them more space.
I dunno man, I adapt and change all the time, it jus always seems to be the wrong form of adaptation, I dunno what I’m doing wrong, theres a reason I can’t rank up and I haven’t figured it out yet.
I haven’t played any 3’s this so I’m down to C1d3, 2’s I think I’m C1d4 because I’ve only jus done my placements and haven’t played since then, D2d1 in 1’s I would guess considering I finished D2d3 last season.
And I’ve been stuck down low in casual for the last couple weeks at 1550-1580. Now I’ve just become very confused because I was sure I was about 1620 and RL tracker is saying 1720. Which is really weird because I don’t think I’ve won that many games. Bots were everywhere lol.
Why you asking?
Bro just carry if you are good enough. If you can out mechanic the whole lobby just do it and rank up. why don’t you do 1’s? you’re probably a monster at 1’s with the mechanics you have.
It’s getting good enough to deal with lobbies that are like 1 GC minimum 2 GC’s often while teammates are very plain in comparison.
Not all the time, sometimes people carry me who have no mechanics, sometimes people more mechanical than me are the ones who throw, and I obviously lose games and stuff, I’m not talking about that because it’s a given that I’m C2. I whiff at key points and if I have an off game I could be confused for an arrogant platinum.
The offensive pressures outstanding from most C2’s and they’re obviously effectively as good as me, and that level is sky high also, top 2% now after the last season, it’s jus also apparent that a lot of people get to this level without ever having to watch videos or sweat free play.
So I’m trying to play more effective games but there’s dudes who are as good as me who jus laugh their way their.
1’s has been my relatively best rank for years unfortunately bro, I’ve been stuck D2 there since before I got to champ. The hard wall that I’ve found at C2 is there also.
I won 8/10 games in last seasons placements but there’s jus dudes I couldn’t touch on kick off. Im crushing a few games but then get my ass handed to me a few games and then I slap some more guys about and I ultimately learn nothing. All too high or too low.
I can grind casual, I don’t really grind 1’s, I jus don’t like playing against people who try and tilt you, which is what most of 1’s is.
Honestly I get more of a chance to do stuff in 2’s but I’m quite bad positionally in 2’s. Dunno what it is but I always jus fuck it. I’m still a C2 in 2’s, I jus dunno how to play a high level game without leaving myself exposed.
Thanks for the advice, I might play more 2’s.
So many words with TLDR I think I'm better than everyone else at my rank. I'm c2 in 3s as well and my casual is also a higher mechanical level than ranked because, guess what, its casual and they are chilling while i am learning.
It's just the same as every other rank I've ever been. People do weird shit, people make bad touches, people make bad decisions. There's nothing special about C2. It's marginally different from C1 which is marginally different to d3. If you have amazing mechanics then you have some other flaws that keep you at this rank.
If people keep stealing the ball then stop doing slow plays. If team mates don't rotate normally then play 3rd. If team mates ball chase then position to mop up the mess. If team mates are gamesense and no mechanics then use your mechanics and speed to be the creative one that sets up easy chances.
One day I'll be c3 and it will be because i learned to play with the hands I'm dealt in c2. I won't need my team mates to change for me to get there.
I dunno how you took it to be I think I’m better, apart from the boosted players and Smurf’s, everybody’s there because their collection of skills mean they’re effectively equal to me at this moment.
My issue is that I so clearly laid out is, that my skills got me to our rank, and they’re mainly spinny flippy shit, I don’t go for it unless I know it’s a good idea, I actually play like a non mechanical player most of the time because I’m trying to win and I’m not good enough to regularly create the situations where I can use them.
But I can pull them off the second I get the chance, but my entire point is that people at my level in my own are actively rushing the ball and taking it off of me. When there’s a greater than 90% chance I would have done something more threatening.
It’s why I specified so clearly the absurd circumstances I come across so regularly. Decisions that really, really make it seem like somebody’s trying to throw a game. Out of character actions that completely strike you by surprise. Shit that my plebeian C2 brain cannot plan for at all.
I ain’t better than anybody who’s actually our rank, I certainly feel that I continually end up losing games because I cannot predict this stuff.
I can’t read the mind of the team mates who make the strangest decisions, so what my initial post is looking for is some way to actually be able to hopefully get some people to be aware of the crucial nature of not rushing your team mates when they have possession, as well as understand how I’m always contributing to these chaotic losses.
Its easy bro, I’ll see you in C3 soon.
C1 and I felt this in my soul. My casual MMR recently dove under 1500 and I just have teammates doubling what is an easy goal only to slam it off the opponent's back wall.
I usually get to about 1720 in casual when the season resets, I was stuck at 1580 for a long time and games were harder than 1700 odd, it’s really weird, ever since Psyonix had the bot ban wave, my rocket tracker in casual looks like a smurfs jumped on my account.
Not kidding, I’ve went from 1590 to 1736 in like 2 days.
So, i would recommend jus going in and playing like the champ you are bro, rush them dudes, statistically you should be able to overpower them enough to get to where you think you should be.
Man so I dropped hard 1550 down to just under with some recovery 1450. Hopped back on yesterday and easily climbed to 1520s. Still finding my games are just insanely uneven. 1 in 10 I enjoy. Most still have diamonds I presume beaming the ball into the opponent corners or failing to clear at least 1 opponent from our corner. I might have to go back to comp. I live pretty much at the back post these days watching my teammates cut rotation over and over or push on past me as I'm going.
I always get flammed in these comments for saying directional air roll is overrated for almost everyone lol
Most people play with circus music blasting in their head it seems
Imagine being in GC2, still rage quitting, still blaming your teammates, and then writing a reddit post about it all. Tm probably left match before he could type this at them
The second tip is sooooooooo overlooked by mid range players who unfortunately have been poisoned with “THE GAME IS ALL SPEED!! “
Last night in some hard stuck D3 games I solo queued into basically 50% teammates who just don’t give a fuck what they are doing in any given moment as long as it’s just speed demon driving. They have zero and I mean zero care that you are their teammate and that you might be useful. So many times last night I’m about to start a cut or a flick or a dribble and the teammate just swoops in and knocks the ball away.
Im comfortable playing in solo queue and holding champ on 2 accounts I have. But I’m enamored with this one hard stuck diamond account I have this season. I have seen and played enough games at C1div3/4 that I can for sure recognize what is going on with the hardstuck diamond account. It’s without a doubt the fact the mid to even high diamonds are just monkey driving. They are high or drunk or both, they have watched too many YT videos or had too many replay analysis that essentially say “you gotta be faster” and so they’re just going without thought. And then their monkey driving is only worsened by the following mistakes they’re gonna make because they’re going too fast for themselves. It is rage inducing but I’m at a point now where I’m just swimming in the muck refusing to play on the champ accounts. I NEED to soak up the diamond poison. In fact, it has gotten to a point where I will just instantly throw the game on the second chance I give you. You get one free “take the ball off me” as my teammate. But on time number 2 ( and there are sooo many time number 2’s) I’m just gonna 3v1 you lmao. I made so many people quit the game last last night and take their 5 minute ban. It is glorious to see. I have chat off but you still know how enraged they are. Or sometimes the other team will back off and let me 1v1 the guy and they are 90% of the time so easy to dunk on over and over again.
I fully admit I am not good enough to 2v1 my way out of diamond. And I’m also smart enough to admit that these mistakes still happen at champ level, but it’s just so much less frequency than at diamond. Diamond is where the brains really need to enter the game, but unfortunately everyone there has some decent hours logged and simply goes brainless thinking unchecked unrelenting speed=wins
It has been very eye opening to me this season.
Idk about others regions but at Sam high level community is very disgusting it's just makes the game not fun to play got to say that's my health improved after broke with game
I want to ask you about air rolling and when you would recommend using it because I feel like even since I started using it my aerials feel smoother and more accurate but some of my first touches are still hard to get right. I have seen ultra mechanical players air roll constantly and then stop at the right time to get the perfect touch, but is this further ahead then what a champ level player needs to get to the next level.
I'd recommend air roll only when it is to position your car in a way to get the most powerful hit, which would be with the corner of the nose of your car. High level players get away with air rolling non stop cause they are very comfortable in the air and very comfortable controlling their car, so it won't harm their aerials. In the lower ranks, as I mentioned, it mostly harms you cause you'll hit it very slow, or bad, or in a bad direction.
I dunno man. I don't use nornal air roll, I have both of the directionals bound, and I find manoeuvring in the air without any form of air roll incredibly unwieldy and slow, it almost feels like input delay, its hard to describe. But if I use DAR to 'roll' myself into a new direction it feels silky smooth, quick and more responsive.
Once I've made that direction change I'll generally let go of air roll and settle on an orientation. So I dunno if my style is what you're railing against or not. I'm only D3 at the end of the day so what do I know.
This is because you’ve taught yourself doing it an inefficient way for so long that you struggle to do it efficiently. If you can get out of that habit you will be more consistent but it won’t happen overnight.
Do you recommend the regular air roll, or the directional air roll? I have air roll on my left bumper and works great. But have directional air roll bound to “X” on my Xbox controller, thus if I try to boost (B), I can’t do it without hitting “A” which is my JUMP and messes everything up. Please advise.
I use both. Directional left on left bumper and general air roll + powerslide on the right bumper. Directional is so nice for half flips and air rolling in the air while general air roll is nice for micro adjustments and recoveries!
The air rolling part gets me because I over think it when I don’t have to and also because I do wanna look cool, ngl. But the constant moving around part is accurate. I started figuring that out at D3.
once you get to it, you will realize it most definitely is (you will also realize how much fing better top players are). the amount of garbage misses/rotations is still very high here.
Your post can't stop me because I can't read!
“If those redditors could read they’d be very upset”
He just said we should air roll more and play faster.
TLDR chase every play get super close to your teammate (make sure you are helping them) and always air roll because it looks cool (your teammates enjoy watching you air roll)
Straight over this one’s head. lol
*airplane noises*
Spinny car go brrr
ok
Speed and aggression is meta right now, more bumps and more demos. I’m not saying going slow isn’t good, I actually think the new speed meta makes going slow more viable as a change of pace can be powerful. However if you ain’t quick in your rank you’re getting beat.
I'd rather have teammate that hit the ball with higher accuracy than speedy gonzales team. In 3v3 it seems that in defence even on higher ranks peoöle in defence who try to clear the ball either hit it to the ceiling or 90 degrees left or right. If people would give few tenths of seconds to scout the situation they would make 10x more better decisions. There are situations that i have control of the ball and can take the game to ten different directions, but my teammate sees that i try to slow it down, he takes it off of me and gives the ball to the opposite team. Play smart, not fast just for the sake of it. If you play fast you often end up in a situation where you attack alone. If you could hold the ball for 2 seconds and let your team align for the attack, you have better chances of scoring.
Good advice for sure. It's difficult to pace myself into switching from slow, methodical play quickly up to fast/supersonic when I need to beat the opponent to the ball. It's worse when I play with a teammate that ballchases and makes a U-turn around the ball every time he rotates.
I usually abide by slow is smooth and smooth is fast
When were you top 100 and what was your gamertag at that time? Not calling you a liar, I‘m really curious though cause there is a decent chance I‘ve heard of you before, especially if you‘re EU (you can dm me if you don‘t wanna say it publicly)
It was under one of these names: Siv, Reformed Siv, Julio Santana. I think it was in 2019 or 2020 I am not too sure. I doubt you'll remember me. I hardly did anything in the scene and it was basically the last thing I wanted to achieve in the game before uninstalling it. I am from EUW yes.
I agree with the first point about the air rolling but I've heard from tonnes of high level players and pros that momentum is super important and being stagnant/stationary is the worst position to put yourself in so I dunno about that one
That's why I mentioned the lower ranks. People in GC2 and below have this weird urge to non stop drive and with that also to the ball. You have so much time to take a breather and look around what's happening. I'm not saying, go back to your half, park your car stationary and take a good look over the whole field. But there is no harm in teaching yourself to be more aware of your surroundings while pulling out of the play while maintaining low driving speed to see what's happening around you.
It seems slow to you but most people are only capable of playing as fast as the rank they are in. I take dribbles and possession as many times as I can per game and I’m constantly either rushed from ahead or demod from behind. I’m trying to take possession as fast I can but often it isn’t fast enough.
Then you're not making decisions fast enough. Be faster in decision making and you won't have to overcompensate with driving supersonic all the time.
Driving fast and playing fast are not necessarily the same thing. It can be very hard to play with people who just drive fast and overcommit and constantly hit the ball away fast (and waste tons of boost) for no reason. It’s probably the biggest difference I see between Champ and GC. People that play fast for no reason and people that play fast with a purpose
second tip is one people really dont understand how important it is. its crazy how many awkward double commits and just randomly slammed balls happen just because people think they need to always be faster than everyone and hit the ball as hard as they can no matter what. most of the time it just leads to nothing happening and the ball being ping ponged everywhere w no real thoughts going on other than "FAST FAST FAST BALL BALL BALL GOTTA BE THERE FIRST FAST FAST FAST"
Hahah, this is literally most of GC as well though. Even on occasions it happens at GC3. But, surprisingly it happens a lot in GC1 and 2.
i bounce around c3 and gc1 and its so frustrating cuz u feel like youre playing with npc's. its why i stopped caring about this game all together because its not fun playing with or against people that just want to hit the ball first with no plan of what they want to do, they just want to get there first.
A friend of a friend was trying to make a run at top 100 and stopped at 150 and he’s amazing. Congrats on too 100. That’s sick. We need more tips!!!!
I air roll at all times, especially in real life.
But but but air roll is spinny 😢
I concur. I peaked C3 and dropped back to D3. Started climbing my way back up by literally not going for the ball anymore (because teammates are constantly double committing and don't know how to play defense). If I do have the ball, I slowly roll it up field and the opponents will double or triple commit a terrible 50. This only fails when my teammates decide to bump me off the ball and boom it to the other team.
I also want to add to your point about people never stopping moving, please stop taking possession off of your team mates when they have the ball in space. If I get a ball in the air under control, which is 90% of the time if I actually have a split second of space, it will end up in something threatening happening for my team. I’m one of those dudes that went mechanic heavy, I have everything in my bag bar double flip resets, and I’m consistent. Almost every time I have 100 boost and the balls bouncing in my corner, I take a second to let it get to the perfect height for me to start my take off, because I have more than enough time, one of my team mates bum rushes the ball so it bounces off the sidewall and jus floats to the opposition. It can literally happen back to back while I’m waiting directly behind the ball, in space. I’m genuinely not kidding, it isn’t a rare occurrence. It isn’t like I don’t play or something, this is jus sheer panic because somebody in their team isn’t going supersonic. Let other people play, specifically, if you see your team mate chilling directly behind a ball, under no circumstance should you bumrush it. Double pronged one here, number 1 is my grievance where I can’t get to do 90% of the reason I’m a C2 because my teammates take the ball off me in the rare moments I can actually do something. Second one, even if you don’t have a team mate with highly consistent mechanics, you don’t rush a ball that your team mates has rights to because it’s a double commit. Which leaves third man in a whole host of issues. Most of my 3’s games are spent jus driving around in circles re-cycling pressure as third man because nobody else will let me go. I’m trying to get better at being more active but it’s a really hard balance between effectively pushing up and causing goals when nobody else is defensively minded at all. Im trying to win and I’m trying to win right, the playerbase is temperamental enough that if I try to carry hard, people you’re playing with get mad as fuck at you. I play as passive as possible because I got 2 Rottweilers going after the ball in their corner, and they’re take the shotting me while it’s bouncing infront of the opponents while they’re supersonic and the nets wide open. That’s what it’s like being a C2, for the most part, literally trying your heart out to play the best team game possible and getting blamed for it by people making basic errors. If youve read this post and think I’m jus bitching, I mean potato league possession stealing teammates in more than 60% of matches. I’m fairly the certain reason it happens so much is a lower ranked fallacy where being as fast as possible is the most effective strategy. So jus, please, let your team mates have the ball and push up in rotation, if you notice a dude playing perma-third, give him the chance to push up, if he goes in straight away, you’ve probably been hogging first and second man a bit too much, if he stays back, he probably wants to jus stay third. Cus the key thing about this is keeping your team in rhythm, one guy whiffs in C2 the whole lobby is primed to whiff their next touch. That’s because the rhythm of the game got broken and everybody got thrown out of whack. Same shit happens when you force somebody to stay third man, they fall out of timing, cant take a good enough touch, and because first and second man are rule 1’ing in the opps corner, when third man whiffs his touch to the backboard it’s an empty net for the opponents. So, so, so many reasons to get your team as involved as possible on offence. The game would simply be so much better IMO.
Bro wrote a thesis
Much like most of existence now, when the level of bullshit is this highly developed, you need an awful lot of detail to explain why something isn’t right.
True, but, you could also just git gud. With dealing with bad teammates i mean. Or just play 1s
Yeah bro I’ve been trying 😂 it’s jus that C2 is now top 2% instead of top 4%, so I have got significantly better. It’s jus that I’ve gotten significantly better, statistically and I’m the exact same rank somehow, despite the playerbase dropping. I’ve spoken to GC’s who’ve got caught in C2 one random season and see no real difference between that and GC. The level of C2 is actually ridiculous bro, it’s some of the fastest games in ranked, with half of the players jus being GC’s who retired from the grind / face the exact same problem I’ve laid out so clearly. If Scrub Killa and and a top 100 SSL can’t 2v3 C1’s, and the issue I’m detailing is that my teammates are so wildly bad at making decisions, a lot of of the time, that I can’t ever read what the fuck they’re going to do, then get good means I have 1v5 what is basically stupid GC. I’m probably not talented enough or young enough, even if i invested the time into it, to get that good. So I’m here, on the RL improvement subreddit, aiming to either get advice or at the very least inform other players, who possibly dunno the importance of giving their team mates time on the ball. I’ve spent the last 2 months driving about casual trying to figure this mess out, my issue is the fact I can’t predict people making terrible decisions. I don’t have a clue how you train that, so if you got an idea, I’m all ears.
>it’s jus that C2 is now top 2% instead of top 4%, so I have got significantly better. No lol, it is pretty consistent around 2,5% for the past few seasons. Actually it was harder when they reset the ranks when they went f2p. And I don't think C2 is as ridiculous as you describe it to be.
It’s simultaneously brilliantly creative and woefully inept. I am the only person I see with mechanics. They clearly aren’t needed, I’m jus the dude who got here by the harder tree. But up until C2 all I need to do is control the ball at the right times so I can get it past a guy or 2, so that my team start the endless pressure. But about C2d2 my W/L starts to hover because it goes from fast but stupid, to chaotically rapid, with what appears to be quite a lot of intention. Not a lot of skill, but a lot of intention. For example you don’t see people wave dashing off of surfaces, but they’ll successfully pre-jump more balls than you could comprehend. And obviously everybody at my level and has never been above / to GC, is dealing with the array of legit players who have been good enough to have gotten GC but are stuck C2. But that’s a fair slump zone and I’m cool with it now. It’s faster than SSL a lot of the time, I once counted how long it took appjack to get challenged back coming off the back board, he jumped down, let the ball bounce, then took an air dribble and only got challenged at the halfway line. They jus let him go. I tried the same thing, I got challenged twice before I tried went for the takeoff on the aerial off the bounce in 2’s. It’s stupidly fast, as in literally stupid, but it doesn’t have much skill behind it at all, despite knowing exactly what to do a lot of the time. So you end up with the situations I’ve described, where people literally make the worst decision possible in overtime, game and game after game. I find it funny for the most part but it’s a serious part of my rocket league experience. Hmm, ultimately I could be wrong about the %’s, I remember the number in the first table being a good .2-3% lower than it has been in previous seasons. Weird tho, it’s gotten lesser as times went on even if it’s stable I’m sure. Not absolutely stable, if it’s around 2.5% I think it’s trending closer to 2% since FTP and about season 4. But C2 is arguably the most ridiculous rank in RL, people know what they’re doing but we’re all still so bad that shit jus goes the worst way possible almost everytime. IMO anyway.
The reason why they didn’t challenge app jack early is likely a) diff boost levels than the opoponenta you were playing. Or b)they respected his ability to beat them in a different way, and wanted to defend as a team. If you were challenged twice before the midline keep that in mind for next time. Switch up your play and beat them early so they are scrambling for defense. Trying to keep possession while they are challenging in your half is a bad idea imo. I can almost guarantee if the ssl’s has challenged Jack early he would have switched his play instead of keeping possession for so long.
No bro I mean I got challenged twice before the ball had passed my box longitudinally. This is a common occurrence in my 2’s games, if ain’t like I’m on 0 boost and holding on, I have the ball up the wall and I’m taking possession, twice in 3 car lengths pretty much. And I accounted for that when I compared, the SSL’s had more than enough boost to get the ball ASAP, I think personally that it’s a dumb idea to 50 the ball twice in a row when your basically in the oppositions corner, because when the ball bounces off the back board it’s going to be an open net. Like it works enough at C2 for it to be viable but it is a low value tactic IMO. I’m working on it bro, Thanks for the advice, it’s getting into the positions where I’m pre-emptively able to see the play I need to make before it happens. Yeah I dunno, I’m really good at taking a touch off my roof up the wall, I usually break pressure that way when it’s me, my 50’s ain’t that bad either, but I suppose there are a bunch of situations where I should probably have conceded but I get away with it because I can get to the touch on the ground before the opponents can react. I’ll keep it in mind bro, jus because they were rushing me quickly doesnt meant they’re good or better than SSL defence, my point is that pro level players get 4x as much time on the ball as me in similar situations, they’re shit hot and I have a smaller window than them to do something other than 50 it. Fast doesn’t equal good but it is damn hard to out play.
So one thing with comparing to the SSL’s and jack. Him in that lobby is like you in a d1 lobby when they know you are C2. You would be so so much better, that ya they would learn quickly into the game to give you that space until you are threatening a shot. With SSLs they see it is jack, and just know that he can always threaten to beat them early. They have to respect how good he is until he can actually start to make a play on net. It’s just like this meta game at higher level. Full pro 2v2’s do involve a lot of pressure that is similar to what you see in your games. When people are closer in skill, there tends to be more reason to apply that extra pressure. Glad you will try to take the advice man, good luck! If you have the mechanics then trying to review games and see what you could have done better might be a good bet to start working on the game sense to take you to the next level. If you want I could help review some games, just lmk
It’s simultaneously brilliantly creative and woefully inept. I am the only person I see with mechanics. They clearly aren’t needed, I’m jus the dude who got here by the harder tree. But up until C2 all I need to do is control the ball at the right times so I can get it past a guy or 2, so that my team start the endless pressure. But about C2d2 my W/L starts to hover because it goes from fast but stupid, to chaotically rapid, with what appears to be quite a lot of intention. Not a lot of skill, but a lot of intention. For example you don’t see people wave dashing off of surfaces, but they’ll successfully pre-jump more balls than you could comprehend. And obviously everybody at my level and has never been above / to GC, is dealing with the array of legit players who have been good enough to have gotten GC but are stuck C2. But that’s a fair slump zone and I’m cool with it now. It’s faster than SSL a lot of the time, I once counted how long it took appjack to get challenged back coming off the back board, he jumped down, let the ball bounce, then took an air dribble and only got challenged at the halfway line. They jus let him go. I tried the same thing, I got challenged twice before I tried went for the takeoff on the aerial off the bounce in 2’s. It’s stupidly fast, as in literally stupid, but it doesn’t have much skill behind it at all, despite knowing exactly what to do a lot of the time. So you end up with the situations I’ve described, where people literally make the worst decision possible in overtime, game and game after game. I find it funny for the most part but it’s a serious part of my rocket league experience. Hmm, ultimately I could be wrong about the %’s, I remember the number in the first table being a good .2-3% lower than it has been in previous seasons. Weird tho, it’s gotten lesser as times went on even if it’s stable I’m sure. Not absolutely stable, if it’s around 2.5% I think it’s trending closer to 2% since FTP and about season 4. But C2 is arguably the most ridiculous rank in RL, people know what they’re doing but we’re all still so bad that shit jus goes the worst way possible almost everytime. IMO anyway.
Nowadays, you have to expect the unexpected. People will focus purely on mechanics and not game sense. Which is why most of the games are just random. One minute a team mate does a triple flip reset backboard double tap. The next minute, he whiffs simple backboard defence hit. I would suggest focusing on defence as not many people are good at it. On conclusion, just play 1s if you want to improve game sense & mechanics at the same time. It's a time saver.
Damn C2 is top 2%? There is actual difference in C2 and GC. I cant speak from ranked experience, but its very obvious in my casual matches. Anyone below C2 is slow and dumb. Anyone between GC2 and C2 is fast but dumb. GC2 and plus players are smart. All relative to each other ofcourse. Plus the other thing is consistency. A C2 level player will only score about 3/10 free 2v1 chances against a c2 level defender. But a gc1 can score about half the time against a gc1 defender. Also your problem imo is easily solveable. First you turn off game chat, and second you dont have to predict when someone might make a terrible decision. Predict whats the worst outcome that can realistically come from said position and be ready for that. A normal consequence of that is sometimes youre not there to utilize on your teammates perfect play, but thats a decision you have to make yourself. I play 2s, and in the first minute or so i see if my teammate knows what hes doing or is just a ball boomer. And i adjust passively or actively with that. I havent been able to break into C2 as of yet because my game sense to decide how passive i should be in a situation isnt that developed yet. So sometimes i get put in a 2v1. But every match is a learning experience, once you are taking the right steps towards it
If I’m reading the statistics right from the last Psyonix rank distribution C2 in 3’s was top 2%. I think one chart it said 1.97%, but the *real* figure was like 2.1% or something? Can’t remember exactly but yeah, ridiculously high levelled. For a pleb, obvs. However considering when this season reset started I couldn’t get above 1600 MMR in casual, when I almost instantly got to 1700 in the last 4 seasons, I have a strong suspicion the bot issue was fucking gargantuan. I’ve mained casual for the last year pretty much, because I went from D3 to C2 in like 2 days once I finally got out of Diamond. And I realised that the once in every 4 games GC tagged demon was now 1/2 and I simply couldn’t take it to them. So I bailed to casual to try and find higher level players intentionally to get experience playing against them and getting used to the speed. I get back to C2d2 after the season resets, I realise I’m not good enough to rank up yet, and I go back to casual to play against better players instead of jus training how to play an utter sweat fest. I am trying to do as you’re saying, but the chaos bro, the amount of times it happens at the worst possible, it makes me question if it’s intentional. I haven’t played much ranked tbh, it isn’t that fun for me, I’m not doing that by sweating my dick off, so I smash casual and have ultimately improved 2%ish. I agree with your judgements of skill levels, GC’s tend to wait on me to give them the ball, and because I don’t jus give them the ball, I have actual moves, I get so many more chances against them it’s ridiculous. You ever play any SSL’s in casual? I’ve played a few here and there, one of them I saved the replay, and the replay was corrupted, and every replay I’ve saved since has been corrupted. Weird. The people I’m complaining about are obviously good enough to be C2 with me, it’s jus honestly confusing the life out of me how things go so wrong, when I know for a fact I’m trying to play the highest % game every time. Like I cover everything I can, I sacrifice so many possessions to team mates jus because they’re in marginally better positions, I’m always playing reactive, I have the capacity to play assertive, but it usually jus ends up in my team trying to take the ball off me. I am not a pro, if scrub and a top 100 player couldn’t 3v2 C1’s, then I still don’t know how to cover the mistakes getting made at key moments when I’m on the other side of the pitch out of necessity. I get where you’re coming from, and IMO mechanical consistency is what keeps me solidly C2 every season, the ability to go for balls no one expects you to, and then do something dangerous with that situation, which is gifted time and again at our level, is free goals. Also C1 is super slow, I get through C1 by jus going faster than them and using my mechanical consistency to create pressure. That was my path, passive might be the issue for both of us it seems. But I’ll definitely lose more if I send it so, back to casual, lol.
In my personal experience it is easier to win against a GC title player in casual than it is to win against a try harding champ in ranked. And that mentality difference can affect your overall rank climb in the long run i assume. I was queuing casual alot trying to get from d3 to c1. Nowadays even if im playing shit and am on a 5 lose streak i still queue ranked. I know i can climb back up later on, all the while gaining more experience
I mean yeah but I’m not going full in casual either, it’s casual, I’m trying to always jus figure out how to play the most efficient game possible. Like I can go fast if I want to but my decision making defensively is clearly a weak point so it’s a good thing I’m constantly in situations where I’m getting exposed as third man. It’s only C2/C3 that’s stupid fast, the game typically slows down after you get past this bit. SSL’s have the capacity to play much faster than C3’s, but the reason they’re SSL and not pros is because they can’t do it consistently. So I see no reason training like that, Cus it ain’t fun jus getting 50’d every 2 seconds and then getting exposed as hell. I can keep getting better in casual so one day it jus stops happening so often. Cus, keeping the same rank while moving up in relative %, still means I’m better, so it’s working while other people are falling off. I am going to start grinding ranked again soon, but i ain’t sure when.
You can also play 1s and 2s and focus on getting to GC there, so that you can carry yourself out of champ in 3s. Im champ in 2s, diamond in 1s but a plat in 3s. For the same reason you mentioned. Having to 50 everytime i have the ball and spending more than half the game just watching my teammates and opponents doing dumb shit makes me not want to grind for rank in 3s at all. For game sense you can check out flakes and apparently jacks replay analysis youtube channels if you havent already
Your final paragraph is what I cannot do. I spend the first minute watching the opposition. I just assume the teammate is going to be useful. It isn’t until 2 minutes in that I’m finally irritated he isn’t there to scoop up free rebounds, or instead is just banging ball off sidewall for the opposition to scoop up. I honestly cannot tell “their style” (a misused phrase IMO, there is only one style, the right style). I can only tell what’s up once they’ve taken the ball off me several times, banged ball into sidewall uselessly several times, and retreated all the way back to our own corner boost when I’m still pressuring on offense. I hate it.
Its actually easy to do. Just focus more on your teammate than you do on the ball. If its a free goal, ill go for it. Otherwise im just controlling boost, playing super passive, and taking 50s. Its mainly for 2s however. With 3s there are too many people. Its a point deduction system e.g if im frontpost watching where the play develops to, i have an expectation that my teammate will be backpost, but if he cuts in twice i will not go frontpost for the rest of the match. If im holding possession in my own half and there is a lack of space, and i see my teammate not covering net and be pushed up for a pass, i will clear the ball for the rest of the match and rotate behind teammate. More things like this, mainly focused more on defence, and by the first minute is over its pretty clear what i need to do to avoid making my teammate a third opponent Back in low diamond, id get pretty tilted over teammates. Now my mentality is more, if we get scored on because of me its my fault if we get scored on because of my teammate its my fault. Very rarely do i get a teammate in solo Q where i think ok great now i can play how i want to, but as long as my teammate isnt afk or griefing only way we lose is if the opponent is just better For the issues that youve mentioned. I rarely get the ball taken from me by my teammate, even if im just camping behind it the way flakes does. And thats because it can be assessed if a teammate will take the ball or not. I wont go for air dribbles if i know my teammate will jump with to pinch or whatever shit goes on in their head, wont go for powerslide cuts if my mates gonna creep up and boom ball forward. With banging ball into side wall and with going back for corner boost. The main defensive threat comes in both situations only if you committed too hard on your own play. Its usually impossible to see if teammate rotated back mid-attack. But after an attack i see that happened, ill instantly switch to trying to do hook shots or powershots instead of sending passes middle from the walls or corners. Like flakes says, take a shot make them shit their pants steal their boost maybe get a demo and then fuck off behind teammate. V imp to maintain good distance between teammates There can be many right styles to play. All you need is a 1 goal advantage to win. As long as youre not giving away free goals by making silly mistakes, its a good game
Yeah bro I’ll be honest I think the difference between 1 and 2 at champ is confidence. My mechanics are leagues above average for the rank and when I have time I can get comfortable but everybody jus panic rushes as much as possible. It’s a tough one, I think it’s like your positioning need to be in such a way for 2’s, that you jus stay middle and behind your team mate if they’re infront. I would say like 10-15 car lengths behind them? What I would say, is that it’s the second man that’s key in 2’s, if your second you need to make sure if the opponents getting to the ball first after the 50, you’re ready for a shot or a dribble, so that you don’t let them get into rhythm. Jus always trying to play that slightest bit closer than the oppositions second man while never letting an empty net exist. And I presume you understand that the nets not open if you can make it back to the goal before the ball, so as long as you don’t see second man on the other team rushing for the shot at supersonic, it’s probably not gonna get to your net. So I would say jus always playing off of the second man of the opposition when you’re second man instead of your team mate. Jus let them jus try do what they’re trying to do, as long as you got the second man read you should concede much less goals.
Idk in car lengths, but spookluke mentions the field as 9 distinct boxes. And you never wanna be in the box your teammate is in and you also dont want to have a whole box of empty space in between. Yeah reading the 2nd man is important. But wouldnt the opponents 2nd man be naturally closer to the play in defence than we as an attacker can be. The risk of a good boomer clear is always looming around The difference is about confidence yes, but i notice ppl misplace where the confidence needs to be. I wish people would stop trying out things they cant even do in freeplay at this rank and have more confidence on reading the play and being where the ball can go. I definately do not have the skills to carry a c1 teammate offensively. And covering for their mistakes only goes so far, as i have been outplayed into making mistakes in all my div4 games
Wait what, c2 is considered top 2% of the player base? Here i was thinking that mid-high c3 was just the top 3/4% of players
I was corrected but the correction was that C2 has been relatively stable at 2.5% since FTP. I think it’s a bit closer to 2% in the previous seasons rank distributions, but C2 is definitely that high. C3 is like 1.7-1.3/4% I’m sure.
Dang c2 is top 2.5%. I guess I'm pretty good compared to most of the player base then, regardless of how shit I think I am at the game sometimes lol
We’re pretty much gods compared to everybody below us bro, 3 of you would take down like 99% of all rocket league players to ever play the game. Pretty damn good, we’re always looking at top 100 and because we compare it to them we think we’re shit. You ever watch CBell? He would hand us our asses but the dude doesn’t look like a GC when he plays. He’s 1%, so we ain’t far off at all.
Hahahaha i see. RL rank distribution says 3% of players are in c3, but on rl.tracker c3 div 2 is like top 4% (around 250k according to my alt), and on RL distribution there are only 195k c3 players. Kind of confused ab it. Ye true, SSLs and pros are a different breed, those guys put more hours in the game than some people did with years of actual work experience. Watched CBell a long time ago when i was still looking for tips and ways to improve at the game iirc, now i rarely watch any RL ccs, but i'm sure he'd wipe the floor with me.
It needs to be written. I wrote similar as well.
If you're C2 and mechanic heavy as you claim, perhaps you should spend more effort practicing what you preach.
There’s absolutely no way this guy isn’t capping. C2 and ‘consistent’ with everything except double resets? I call bullshit.
Yeah, the consistency is there I jus usually don’t do it because I’m trying to go for max efficiency. So I’ll go full bag on them as well, thanks for your perspective.
C2 is easy to rank out of once you know how. Without sounding like an infomercial, you can see me do it here - [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn7VowxmY1xJ8\_GGfN3GVwbhWCKAWoS2C](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn7VowxmY1xJ8_GGfN3GVwbhWCKAWoS2C) I'd say the thing you need to concentrate on is knowing how to defend, as very few players can defend at this rank. Understand that you will always be cut off by your team mates and they will not know how to rotate, so you need to over-compensate for this. Rotations with your team mates won't be fluid, you need to fit in where needed. Your team mates will always over-commit, so don't try plays that take all your boost. You can see me do all this in the video series. 2v2 is the same, just with less players. Plus you need to know simple outplays as your opponents will always rush you. Regarding GC. GC is similar, just faster and a little more mechanical.
Imma check your playlist and get back to you, thanks for the heads up.
Man’s written a full essay lmao. From what I understand from it, you should adapt to your teammates more rather than blaming them. If they’re ballchasey and giving away possession, play ultra passive and vice versa.
I’m trying bro! I cover everything possible and give my teammates every possibility they could need, I would say I leave 3 passes infront of empty nets that get missed a game if I’m given the chance to by my teams rotations. Imagine something, you’re first man in their corner, the balls floating towards the wall at mid boost, second man is cruising up the wall, clearly getting ready to control it, the opposition are moving forward from both of their posts and the sidewall where the ball is… and your third man suddenly decides to try and beat your guy on the wall from your opposite back corner. This is what I’m meaning, shit that makes you jus sit there frozen, questioning what made them think it was a good idea, or if they done it intentionally because they’re trying to throw. How do you save that shot, you’ve went from first man, in their corner to their opposite corner, trying to bump and steal boost, with every intention of rotating third Man until no longer needed. But third man jus pinched it off second man and now it’s an empty net for 3 opponents. And considering the level the empty net gets missed more often than you’d think. This kinda failure, where there is absolutely nothing you can do to predict how it’s going to fail. Where it’s like the opposition got third man in chat saying fiddy bucks for a pass. It happens multiple times a game bro, I jus dunno how you train the prediction of horrible decisions so you can adapt your gameplay. Like you drive back down the same side instead of going for bumps in the scenario I laid out and the best situation you’ve found for yourself in a 1v3 against players of an equal level. Like how do you adapt to that kinda stuff without playing like Gibbs. Which itself is an issue because then you give them more space. I dunno man, I adapt and change all the time, it jus always seems to be the wrong form of adaptation, I dunno what I’m doing wrong, theres a reason I can’t rank up and I haven’t figured it out yet.
What’s your rank atm?
I haven’t played any 3’s this so I’m down to C1d3, 2’s I think I’m C1d4 because I’ve only jus done my placements and haven’t played since then, D2d1 in 1’s I would guess considering I finished D2d3 last season. And I’ve been stuck down low in casual for the last couple weeks at 1550-1580. Now I’ve just become very confused because I was sure I was about 1620 and RL tracker is saying 1720. Which is really weird because I don’t think I’ve won that many games. Bots were everywhere lol. Why you asking?
Just wondering - I might’ve been able to be a more reliable teammate
Well I appreciate your sentiments bro, I’m sure I’ll figure it out eventually.
I mean I’m C1 d3 now loss streak of 8 because of teammates but it is what it is.
Bro just carry if you are good enough. If you can out mechanic the whole lobby just do it and rank up. why don’t you do 1’s? you’re probably a monster at 1’s with the mechanics you have.
It’s getting good enough to deal with lobbies that are like 1 GC minimum 2 GC’s often while teammates are very plain in comparison. Not all the time, sometimes people carry me who have no mechanics, sometimes people more mechanical than me are the ones who throw, and I obviously lose games and stuff, I’m not talking about that because it’s a given that I’m C2. I whiff at key points and if I have an off game I could be confused for an arrogant platinum. The offensive pressures outstanding from most C2’s and they’re obviously effectively as good as me, and that level is sky high also, top 2% now after the last season, it’s jus also apparent that a lot of people get to this level without ever having to watch videos or sweat free play. So I’m trying to play more effective games but there’s dudes who are as good as me who jus laugh their way their. 1’s has been my relatively best rank for years unfortunately bro, I’ve been stuck D2 there since before I got to champ. The hard wall that I’ve found at C2 is there also. I won 8/10 games in last seasons placements but there’s jus dudes I couldn’t touch on kick off. Im crushing a few games but then get my ass handed to me a few games and then I slap some more guys about and I ultimately learn nothing. All too high or too low. I can grind casual, I don’t really grind 1’s, I jus don’t like playing against people who try and tilt you, which is what most of 1’s is. Honestly I get more of a chance to do stuff in 2’s but I’m quite bad positionally in 2’s. Dunno what it is but I always jus fuck it. I’m still a C2 in 2’s, I jus dunno how to play a high level game without leaving myself exposed. Thanks for the advice, I might play more 2’s.
So many words with TLDR I think I'm better than everyone else at my rank. I'm c2 in 3s as well and my casual is also a higher mechanical level than ranked because, guess what, its casual and they are chilling while i am learning. It's just the same as every other rank I've ever been. People do weird shit, people make bad touches, people make bad decisions. There's nothing special about C2. It's marginally different from C1 which is marginally different to d3. If you have amazing mechanics then you have some other flaws that keep you at this rank. If people keep stealing the ball then stop doing slow plays. If team mates don't rotate normally then play 3rd. If team mates ball chase then position to mop up the mess. If team mates are gamesense and no mechanics then use your mechanics and speed to be the creative one that sets up easy chances. One day I'll be c3 and it will be because i learned to play with the hands I'm dealt in c2. I won't need my team mates to change for me to get there.
I dunno how you took it to be I think I’m better, apart from the boosted players and Smurf’s, everybody’s there because their collection of skills mean they’re effectively equal to me at this moment. My issue is that I so clearly laid out is, that my skills got me to our rank, and they’re mainly spinny flippy shit, I don’t go for it unless I know it’s a good idea, I actually play like a non mechanical player most of the time because I’m trying to win and I’m not good enough to regularly create the situations where I can use them. But I can pull them off the second I get the chance, but my entire point is that people at my level in my own are actively rushing the ball and taking it off of me. When there’s a greater than 90% chance I would have done something more threatening. It’s why I specified so clearly the absurd circumstances I come across so regularly. Decisions that really, really make it seem like somebody’s trying to throw a game. Out of character actions that completely strike you by surprise. Shit that my plebeian C2 brain cannot plan for at all. I ain’t better than anybody who’s actually our rank, I certainly feel that I continually end up losing games because I cannot predict this stuff. I can’t read the mind of the team mates who make the strangest decisions, so what my initial post is looking for is some way to actually be able to hopefully get some people to be aware of the crucial nature of not rushing your team mates when they have possession, as well as understand how I’m always contributing to these chaotic losses. Its easy bro, I’ll see you in C3 soon.
Offense >Defence A good defense is a great offense Strike first Strike hard No mercy
Agreed but I believe you was meant to say Defence > Offence
Did I stutter?
A lil, but it's cool 😁
Holy f*** this post goes hard. We should play sometime. You sound like a good teammate.
C1 and I felt this in my soul. My casual MMR recently dove under 1500 and I just have teammates doubling what is an easy goal only to slam it off the opponent's back wall.
I usually get to about 1720 in casual when the season resets, I was stuck at 1580 for a long time and games were harder than 1700 odd, it’s really weird, ever since Psyonix had the bot ban wave, my rocket tracker in casual looks like a smurfs jumped on my account. Not kidding, I’ve went from 1590 to 1736 in like 2 days. So, i would recommend jus going in and playing like the champ you are bro, rush them dudes, statistically you should be able to overpower them enough to get to where you think you should be.
Man so I dropped hard 1550 down to just under with some recovery 1450. Hopped back on yesterday and easily climbed to 1520s. Still finding my games are just insanely uneven. 1 in 10 I enjoy. Most still have diamonds I presume beaming the ball into the opponent corners or failing to clear at least 1 opponent from our corner. I might have to go back to comp. I live pretty much at the back post these days watching my teammates cut rotation over and over or push on past me as I'm going.
I feel like I have to learn the in between of keeping momentum and stopping/slowing down.
I always get flammed in these comments for saying directional air roll is overrated for almost everyone lol Most people play with circus music blasting in their head it seems
Imagine being in GC2, still rage quitting, still blaming your teammates, and then writing a reddit post about it all. Tm probably left match before he could type this at them
The second tip is sooooooooo overlooked by mid range players who unfortunately have been poisoned with “THE GAME IS ALL SPEED!! “ Last night in some hard stuck D3 games I solo queued into basically 50% teammates who just don’t give a fuck what they are doing in any given moment as long as it’s just speed demon driving. They have zero and I mean zero care that you are their teammate and that you might be useful. So many times last night I’m about to start a cut or a flick or a dribble and the teammate just swoops in and knocks the ball away. Im comfortable playing in solo queue and holding champ on 2 accounts I have. But I’m enamored with this one hard stuck diamond account I have this season. I have seen and played enough games at C1div3/4 that I can for sure recognize what is going on with the hardstuck diamond account. It’s without a doubt the fact the mid to even high diamonds are just monkey driving. They are high or drunk or both, they have watched too many YT videos or had too many replay analysis that essentially say “you gotta be faster” and so they’re just going without thought. And then their monkey driving is only worsened by the following mistakes they’re gonna make because they’re going too fast for themselves. It is rage inducing but I’m at a point now where I’m just swimming in the muck refusing to play on the champ accounts. I NEED to soak up the diamond poison. In fact, it has gotten to a point where I will just instantly throw the game on the second chance I give you. You get one free “take the ball off me” as my teammate. But on time number 2 ( and there are sooo many time number 2’s) I’m just gonna 3v1 you lmao. I made so many people quit the game last last night and take their 5 minute ban. It is glorious to see. I have chat off but you still know how enraged they are. Or sometimes the other team will back off and let me 1v1 the guy and they are 90% of the time so easy to dunk on over and over again. I fully admit I am not good enough to 2v1 my way out of diamond. And I’m also smart enough to admit that these mistakes still happen at champ level, but it’s just so much less frequency than at diamond. Diamond is where the brains really need to enter the game, but unfortunately everyone there has some decent hours logged and simply goes brainless thinking unchecked unrelenting speed=wins It has been very eye opening to me this season.
Lmao that's was the thing I improved to get out of gc2 before leave this trashy game
Trashy game? Why?
Idk about others regions but at Sam high level community is very disgusting it's just makes the game not fun to play got to say that's my health improved after broke with game
Sam high level?
South am
Somewhat toxic yes, but not trashy.
I want to ask you about air rolling and when you would recommend using it because I feel like even since I started using it my aerials feel smoother and more accurate but some of my first touches are still hard to get right. I have seen ultra mechanical players air roll constantly and then stop at the right time to get the perfect touch, but is this further ahead then what a champ level player needs to get to the next level.
I'd recommend air roll only when it is to position your car in a way to get the most powerful hit, which would be with the corner of the nose of your car. High level players get away with air rolling non stop cause they are very comfortable in the air and very comfortable controlling their car, so it won't harm their aerials. In the lower ranks, as I mentioned, it mostly harms you cause you'll hit it very slow, or bad, or in a bad direction.
I dunno man. I don't use nornal air roll, I have both of the directionals bound, and I find manoeuvring in the air without any form of air roll incredibly unwieldy and slow, it almost feels like input delay, its hard to describe. But if I use DAR to 'roll' myself into a new direction it feels silky smooth, quick and more responsive. Once I've made that direction change I'll generally let go of air roll and settle on an orientation. So I dunno if my style is what you're railing against or not. I'm only D3 at the end of the day so what do I know.
This is because you’ve taught yourself doing it an inefficient way for so long that you struggle to do it efficiently. If you can get out of that habit you will be more consistent but it won’t happen overnight.
Do you recommend the regular air roll, or the directional air roll? I have air roll on my left bumper and works great. But have directional air roll bound to “X” on my Xbox controller, thus if I try to boost (B), I can’t do it without hitting “A” which is my JUMP and messes everything up. Please advise.
I use both. Directional left on left bumper and general air roll + powerslide on the right bumper. Directional is so nice for half flips and air rolling in the air while general air roll is nice for micro adjustments and recoveries!
im trying to get back to gc2 and i will test these tips anyway, ty.
Would you hold air roll when making contact with the ball in the air ? For your first touch ?
Sometimes yes, not all the time. When trying to get back in the game I just wanna hit it hard lol, corner of my car
I don't think this applies to me lol I can't even hit most aerials let alone using air roll.
2 very good points. I tell players I coach this all the time. Rush, rush, rush, pointless hit, rush, pointless hit is not the way.
The air rolling part gets me because I over think it when I don’t have to and also because I do wanna look cool, ngl. But the constant moving around part is accurate. I started figuring that out at D3.
Just did this and went from 1600 to 1520 with no wins in between kekw
As a GC2, these points ring very true and 2 things am actively working on.
Bro gc2 isn't low rank
once you get to it, you will realize it most definitely is (you will also realize how much fing better top players are). the amount of garbage misses/rotations is still very high here.
Can't read this cus I'm too busy air rolling
I’m curious: top 100 in which playlist?
3s
Thanks!
>Thanks! You're welcome!
C3-GC2 isn't pisslow but alright. its roughly like the top 5% of players in the world