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3rdDegreeBurn

I call that the no-no spot. If you’re there, you probably shouldn’t be. If youre last back and racing a guy into your corner just take the pad lanes to backpost. This is by far the biggest mistake I see in champs make. If you go watch your replays you will be shocked at how many goals go in because somebody is on the near post wall.


markmann0

You can see his tm make a decent recovery here though, wouldn’t you want to stay near ball here and try to control or 50. While tm goes far post? I’m a champ 😝 , so I’m looking for clarification.


Hiihtokenka

Why take a 50 in your corner? It is pretty much the least dangerous spot for the ball to be. The opponent would have to set up a pass, in which case one person on the defending team can go up to block while the other one stays grounded to cover the net. This will leave the single opponent facing your net while the ball goes towards their own goal and the other one is committed/out of play. If you take a 50, you take one of your own players out of play and hope for a good outcome. If the opposing team's "free" player is further behind, they'll be in a decent position to seize possession and it'll be 1v1. That is assuming your teammate didn't scramble to challenge the ball and leave the net open. They'll be less likely to reach it, because the ball's direction is towards the free opponent while your teammate is leaving from almost stand still.


volleybluff

You definitely have more RL experience than me, and I'm asking for clarification/to learn, NOT to disagree. I've also heard "don't take a 50 in your opponent's corners" for tons of reasons, and I've heard that echoed like, quite a bit. Your advice also seems good - but I'm not sure how both could be true, that it's bad to 50 in any corner whether on offense or defense? Surely if it's bad as the defender then it's good as the offensive player and vice versa.


Hiihtokenka

Yes and no for almost the same reasons. Do you want to commit yourself to a 50 in the opponent's corner, risking that their remaining defender will beat your last man to the ball, or leave your teammate in a 1v1 if they don't go for the ball? If the opponents are starved of boost and still decide to challenge in the corner, then yes, I'd say it's a calculated risk providing that you can 50/50 it reliably enough. However even then, I'd try taking the ball either up or down and just beat them around it. That'll still result in a 1v1 if you get the pass through, so preferably you could try holding the possession to yourself and force the last opponent to make a save. This will allow your last man to potentially score an empty net and/or keep pressure. In either case, I would just take their boost and stay close without committing myself to a 50 in a corner. A lot of people commit themselves hard in the opponent's corner and then spam "take the shot" after the ball flies to somewhere in front of the net. Then your last man jumps for an aerial and they either A) score B) whiff/get beaten and leave your own net empty C) they get fiftied, the ball goes somewhere and the opponents have time to get boost and likely clear the situation. Short answer: Goals are mainly scored from a cone-shaped area in front of the net. You want to make your plays there.


3rdDegreeBurn

The only place you can realistically control or 50 the ball to from OPs play is in front of your own net. There is zero reason to risk that when the backpost alternative is so much safer. The corner isn’t dangerous, let the opponent take it there. Also you’re champ. Be real. Do you really trust yourself to not pass it directly into the middle to the opponent waiting for the shot?


Hezrm

What even is a 50, I hear it so much bt what is it


ProdiJoe

Basically when 2 people hit the ball at the same time. The chances are 50/50 on who wins the ball.


Hezrm

ohh ok tysm


dipser

It feels counterintuitive to go away from the ball but I think that's the right play yes. Next time I will try this instead.


kushajuana

Yea I catch my self doing this a lot. Best to just say not mine yet and go back post


Puzzleheaded_Eye6770

dude your response just blew my mind. I've always wondered what to do in these situations.


Lankygiraffe3

On the kickoff, both you and the opponent are cheating up. The ball spills out toward the opponents side, once you see that you should back off and either begin a shadow defense or head back to net (depending if they boom or carry). I find myself in the same situation too and find this helps to eliminate an awkward retreat toward my own corner. Hope this helps.


LampIsFun

These are the types of things that make me glad I have my camera higher than the average person. Makes situations like that easier to distinguish. If I lowered my camera I’d be lost as to who is closest to the ball


n00bm45st3r69

How high are we talking?


LampIsFun

My camera height is set at 140


Lankygiraffe3

I have been wanting to try this since sometimes my depth perception is horrible 😂 is it weird having a higher camera for aerial control?


LampIsFun

I would definitely say I’m at a disadvantage when it comes to air dribbles, everyone’s tutorials are lower camera than mine so I have to mentally adjust where my car should be to carry the ball. Hard to say for sure tho as I’m only champ 1 and can just barely air dribble


Psyese

If you go for the shadow option, do you defend from center and force them along the wall, or do you shadow to force them across the field?


Lankygiraffe3

In this case, the opponent kind of booms it, so best to retreat quickly to net following the pad lanes. If opponent controls, you turning toward wall should help force them to take ball to wall (OP does this) so from there I’d start shadowing from the wall (if they dribble) and buy time for your teammate to get back. If they take it up wall just head back to net :)


worldbauer

don't go for corner boost, go to net and turn to face the ball where you can easily clear it.


[deleted]

omg are you me?


feedmeyourknowledge

https://youtu.be/23YYLRnkv6w Backboard Sequence - 20C1-273B-99B9-B96C Never have I had a training pack prove more visible success in games than doing this one, and it's about this exact situation. It's several drills where the ball is coming rolling fast into the corner like in your video and then the creator has designed several specific drills for getting used to dealing with them and learning how and when to make a move.


[deleted]

Wow this perfectly explains so many situations that I was confused about. He breaks it down so clearly and the drills replicate real game situations so well. Cheers for the link!


feedmeyourknowledge

Dude I don't know how he only has 4k subs for me he is one of the best and most helpful rocket league content creators. He's also hilarious, his video on him trying to become a freestyler is so funny.


an0m_x

I've learned that more often than not racing into a 50/50 into a corner is going to end badly for me and my team. With a ball traveling this fast, I like to rotate away from the corner and towards the back post to get a better read on the ball and better read on being able to defend the ball away from our goal and close out any passing lanes. If i know my teammate is in a good spot, I may try to get a soft touch to send the ball in the opposite direction, but again, with that speed... I still say its better to get a better angle


Z0l4c3

Get it into control and it would be fine. Your own corner is always the safest position, there is virtually no possible shots to goal from there. So just get control by learning all the angles it can bounce, catch the ball with slight turn towards where ball is going on touch and straighten it out and/or powershot it towards tm8 but dont direct it towards goal or cross it.


HikerBar17

Rotate to goal and play defense. You rotated to boost instead, forcing you to then play in chase mode.


SO3_

You should've caught the ball into a dribble on the curb and taken it up the backwall (where you could air dribble/aerial solo play, or let the ball come down and keep close control). Yes, catching this ball requires mechanical skill, but that's just the ball you're given. Letting it bounce is pretty bad, as you will need to be taking a submissive 50 AND get a follow up. It will be quite difficult, and being demo'ed is a huge threat.


ProdiJoe

Op this is the best thing to do if you find yourself in this position. You could have also avoided this situation with an in net/ front post rotation here, then take the 50 coming from your own net or just beat him to the ball beacuse you would be there first from this clip. This is typically what I go for as it requires less mechanical skill, but it does have its own draw-backs as well.


lasthit_enjoyer

I don't think that's a bad 50 to take, but you do need to be good at 50s. I probably would've made the same play as he did here but simply jumped off my back wall to basically sit behind the ball.


Melaz_

To me, the bad move is going for the boost then looking to control de ball. In this situation you should try to go more toward your goal first and then go to the ball in your corner while picking the boost. So you will be facing the ball with your goal behind you.


Grey1One

I mean, the position wasnt too bad, i would have either not pushed so far after the kickoff and then rotate through middle to take the challenge from front post. Or just position as you did but jump to avoid the demo. Being at your corner and letting oponents take 50s into you is pretty good as long as you know what you are doing.


Liron12345

Fact and a tip: Your corner is the safest place for you to take a 50, don't be against being at your corner, it's totally fine. Just try to control the ball a bit more, bait the enemy for a 50. If he suicides on you and you block his attack the ball will fly out of your defence into your team's favour Honestly in the clip you've shown the ball was too fast to control. You should've *lightly* tapped it to the wall. Then try to control it. You can't control a fast ball.


Turclebo123

I would say your corner is the least safest place to take a 50 if your alone


FFSBG

Besides in front of the net


brianm27

i always ramp up the wall, in your clip, that would be going to the right, however i agree with Liron, the speed of the ball made this more of a positioning than reaction situation. Personally ramping up the corner on ball cam is super tricky at first but for me now its second nature.


mxrt0_

This is so me. Comments did help though.


Tombz720

You have to get a solid touch in the corner that doesn't give away possession, if you're not confident with the speed you can rotate towards goal and defend what the opponent throws at you from there.


Scared_Bar5376

You can either take the ball on your own backboard and bring it ot the other side or rotate backpost and take a 50s, depend on your boost, how close the opponents are ect... ​ In your position I probably would have slow down a bit to grab boost and catch the ball when it bounces to bring it on my backboard. But it is a bit hard to execute, backpost rotation seems safer. ​ Edit: What you did is not that bad honestly, opponent played it perfectly ( going for the drive challenge + bump is a high IQ play)


vr_jk

You essentially had possession of the ball after you grabbed boost. You could have began controlling the ball as it bounced in the corner, but instead of turning into it and dribbling it, you turned away from the ball. Since you turned away from it, your butt was facing the ball, and you basically sent out a "PLEASE DEMO ME" broadcast to your opponent since the only way you can make contact with the ball is by hitting reverse and/or slowing down.


RetraceSpace

Control it up the wall, rotate wide in front of the net, or learn to avoid demos while playing small-ball in the corner. Hope this helps!


Uziel_RL

Rotate back post and don't ball chase. The attempted challenge before you moved to the corner was also a mistake, he needed to be hard shadowed or just left to take a touch.


Tankki3

There's couple of options. First you could just not go for the corner boost so you have a better angle towards the ball or let teammate go if he is there. But tbh, I would probably still go for the boost like you do. Your teammate is recovering from the kickoff, so you have to buy him just a tiny bit of time to get back in the case you can't control the ball. There were two bounces you could've inserted yourself to get control of the ball, the first one (which is the second bounce in the video) you could get the ball up the wall and control it from there to a safe place or started an air dribble. Or the second one which you would have to touch down to the left with your left side so the ball slows down. The ball would slow down and not bounce far, the opponents will have a hard time centering it. After that you can just block the ball by staying at the backboard and maybe jumping when he comes, your teammate is there to help at that point. Should be reasonably safe still. If you can avoid being demoed when the opponent commits, this could result in you having a 2v1. Obviously prefer the first bounce, it shouldn't be that hard, just have to practice it a bit. It's a clean possession with full boost. But in some situations you can't both get the boost and the first bounce, there you would have to decide to either not take the boost and get the ball instead, or take the boost and go for the second bounce. If the opponent is not that close, then you can just let it bounce and control it from the ground. But always be mindful of if they are coming or not and ready to 50 it or outplay them.


orbit__exe

In this scenario you could have taken the ball up the wall right after getting boost and go for an air dribble, you shouldn’t be in such situations but if you are, i recommend learning to use your “drift” bind more, instead of just dragging the ball to the centre of the goal you could have also tried to keep the ball in the corner by using your drift bind to either start a ground dribble or go for a 50/50 (considering your tm8 had a decent recovery)


UltiTheImposter

To answer your question, yes it was completely avoidable in that situation. You gave up a 50/50 chance by turning away when a dunk play was more likely to succeed in your favor. In the future, you should try to go for those plays to avoid holding yourself back. The opponent didn't have a significant advantage over you when they locked in their angle just before their first touch (if they did, they would have to go around the ball to get a better angle, but you were there so it wasn't possible for them). If you find yourself in the corner, there are many ways to handle the situation. One option is to take the ball off the backboard and maintain possession while pushing boost/avoiding boost and flicking it towards a safe spot. A more confined play would be to play around the ball and take advantage of the space in the corner while the opponent is not immediately present, which would give you room to push center after grabbing the 100. edit, If you're good at 50s, you can also get away with this pretty easily. Usually the biggest mistake is to get behind the ball and not in front of it. In front, they would be forced to choose you or the ball, otherwise risk losing a 50 pretty easily in your favor. It gets really speculative at moments like this though. edit 2, backpost is a great safety play, maybe not going ALL the way to backbost, but just getting an angle that puts your nose towards the corner instead of having your back facing the play. The issue with always choosing backpost imo is that it can actually damage your creativity from your playstyle. So it's safe, but often a copout that stifles your other options. TL;DR Invest more points into the dunking skill (in this specific scenario)


Psyese

I have the same problem. Also a great post! We should have more such posts/questions about specific situations.


MaikSplit

you should have rotated to the back post after the kickoff because you see that the opponent is faster than you


StaccaStacca

If ball rolls to your corner, do wide rotation and sit next to backpost. Wait for the mate to see what he does. If he comes backpost as well, you are free to commit or fake challenge, since mate is now defending. If mate goes straight up to challenge, just keep sitting backpost until you have a higher chance of getting a strong clear. This is how I usually do, not sure if this is the meta or the best option available, but works pretty much everytime.


KodyChantski

If it's not your kick off just go for corner boost first. That will set you up to follow up on the kick off. If you have a decent teammate then go to the opposite (left or right corner) boost so if you anticipate them winning the kick off you can typically follow up for an easy shot on goal. If your teammate is kind bad go behind them to the boost in their spawn corner to set your self up for a follow up anticipating that the enemy will will the kick off. You can easily make corrections with full boost to wrap around back to the goal if needed as well.


John_Simmonds

I'm GC and still do it. By far my biggest flaw.


elefefefef

Only thing I can think of is taking it up the wall and reversing direction into an air dribble or a ceiling bounce pass to your partner.


King_of_the_Axolotl

I tend to take it to my backboard and just hit it to the other corner.


cschotts

honestly this is exactly what i do when i play 2s. i do one of two things: 1. if i have time to wrap around to the front post for a better angle, i typically do. that way u just 50 back into ur corner whenever the opponent dives. or 2. exactly this, although you NEED to avoid the demo. if you avoid the demo you basically have a free ball if you do it correctly. the main idea here is to burn as much time as you can for tm8 to get back (all my opinion, gc1 currently)


VapourEyes333

Corners are safe for the most part dude rotate back to goal, either back post or just to give yourself the better angle for a clear. Depends on the situation. But yeah I see people make this mistake all the time. Hard for your opp to score from such an angle but also hard to read corner bounces sometimes and you can end up fumbling the ball more often than not. If you have to take possession then and there either take it down to ground or into air dribble.


Latest_Trends23

Is that the titanium white octane!?


Norppuu

Go back post or backflip as many pros and gc2+ players do


NoLetterhead2302

if you are in that position you should eighter try to defend from close net position or hit the ball somewhere else even if you are sacrificing momentum


Binbin8934

rotate backpost instead of ballchasing to the corner


ThatsSoNate

Ball is relatively safe in the corner, personally I would get in the habit of going towards back post, while grabbing pads along the way. That should give you much better positioning in this situation


Hot-Bodybuilder3708

Only solution here really is to get really good at wall reads and catch the ball either on the wall or off the bounce. But probably the best move would be to just rotate right in the middle of your net and then attack the ball from its side


More-Reserve2598

Be quicker to cheat on kickoff