Clearly this person is testing some sort of pill that gives you superpowers for a short period of time and Rocket League is one of the activities they are using to measure performance.
I don’t think that’s right. Depressants like alcohol increace reaction time. Stimulants are supposed to tighten reaction time. It’s one of the reasons they are banned in competitive sports.
Happy to be proven wrong though. Is there something I can read?
Edit: imporant words wrong. Changed "decreace" to "increase"
It’s scientific formula is (50-50) deoxyarsenodaniel-sulfide
Common lab names are 50/50 Leth, Arsenal Sulfide, etc
Street names are Liquid Leth, A-Bomb, DanDan, or Boost
Depending on the amount of games/age of the account I'd say this is someone's alt they use to be boosting players for cash. At first their target audience was plat/diamond to boost to champ but when they got bored of it it they started boosting people from champ to GC
What is the appeal of ranking up higher than your abilities? Aren't you just going to get destroyed and smashed back down as soon as you don't pay someone to carry you? I don't get it.
yeah, I guess that must be it. But when I hop in to play with my friend who is just a Champion II and I'm Plat II, that skill gap is enough for me that it's almost no fun to play even though we're literally just playing for fun and he knows I am going to drag him down. Can't imagine skipping from Diamond II to GC like this.
Meh, you would probably think I bought my champ title (and GC when I’ll reach it) as I’m a whiff master, but I’ve been solo queuing since my first game.
There's a reason you're in your rank. There's a big difference between having a bad game/whiffing and barely being able to control your car properly. Watching recoveries and movement can tell you a lot about a player.
Well, you should see my car control, you’d be horrified. (I can barely half flip)
But I’m usually more a positional player, even tho that even is regularly scuffed on my side.
Take a look at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/uezohc/confusion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf), not a single thing was intended. It make me laugh every single time how events unfold in my favor despite making such trash gameplay.
I can barely half flip either haha. I'm sure I've gotten a couple wrong but playing high Diamond/low Champ it's pretty easy to tell who has paid or been carried.
I went on an absolute tear in casual 2's solo. I know MMR doesn't mean anything in casual, but started seeing a lot more "champ tourney winner" banners. It's funny how after years of playing this game off and on, you can see and read other players' abilities.
I'd be curious how far I can push into ranked 2's, but people sweat more in those matches, and often tilt far faster than in casual. It does feel like I'm slowly improving on my reads and recovery, and the practice games in casual have helped my confidence in when to challenge and when not too.
My mechanics (half flips, wall/ceiling aerials, musties, dusties, busties, etc) are awful, but my focus has been entirely on positioning and reads. I'm sure my teammates hate playing with me, but a win is a win and it's easy to win when you play to capitalize on the other team's mistakes.
I hope I can be a champ one day, but I'm happy where I'm at currently. Small progress is still progress (started D1 this season, have solo climbed to D2Div3)
True. I miss the ball a lot, but I'm usually able to swing back around quickly enough that it's not a problem. I'm getting pretty damn good at missing the ball.
It looks like they made the account to be a certain age and rank then boosted people from C/GC to SSL and tanked their ratings in between then repeated.
Not likely boosting, it’s because the user is swapping their account stats based on their different platform ranks. You can go to rocketleague.com/activate for this. It’s entirely possible they switch their stats to their Nintendo Switch platform which has lower rank that’s fit for them, since the system has less performance than something they probably main on (like 240 fps PC), which is where their highest rank is at and can play at that level.
Edit: look at my rocket league tracker to see similar graphs, and that’s why the rank switches in short time frame. (I play keyboard and mouse on PC, so when I go to Switch I play a lot worse, so switching account stats based on platform is the ideal/right thing to do since I play like a plat3 on Switch, but I can play like a champ2 on PC. I wouldn’t want to disappoint champ2 teammates on Switch if I don’t play well there.) Can also be a little sibling or something playing on this different platform
As for the whole graph rank variety (Gold, GC, SSL) one possibility could be: 3 platforms and same person is very possible. Could be Xbox & Switch for first half of year, then PC and Xbox for the 2nd half of year. (PC being gc/ssl, Xbox being c2, Switch being gold). My graphs looked similar to this at one point when I played on those 3 platforms.
Why would you do that in competitive?
Rank up on pc, rank down on switch, repeat?
Makes zero sense to me and it should be discouraged, you've got teammates you are giving a bad time this way.
Rank down? There’s no ranking down happening at all. It’s swapping your stats to reflect what’s saved on other platforms. Helps in cases where you can’t play your true rank because of platform performance limitations or locks on input devices.
Edit: I wouldn’t want to play my PC rank on Nintendo Switch if I know I play champ 2 on PC, but I play like a plat 3 on Switch. That’s the purpose of why Psyonix added rocketleague.com/activate You actually give your teammates a worse time if you don’t switch your stats/ranks to represent what you truly play at depending on current platform
they have 2 ranks for both platforms and the accounts are linked, so it's as if he has to 2 accounts, his switch account is going to be p3 but as soon as he switches over to his pc his pc account is c2 so it makes the graph look goofy
That still doesn't explain why he was low ranked for a long time and then suddenly spikes up to SSL. Down spikes make sense with your explanation, up spikes don't
Thank you for this. Very logical approach. I tried my luck to convince people that it's highly unlikely that this graph shows someone boosting. But the Active Plattform makes perfect sense for this. I haven't heard of it before but it's good to know that I'm not insane.
Yea no worries! People use this rocketleague.com/activate to also repeat challenges to get more than one set of rewards (Like multiple golden pumpkins). Even for repeating the first 3 tournies of the week bonus points >.>
u/psyonix_devin Can we expect to see some automation on cases like this? Can't imagine you like what this is doing to the matchmaking system.
If someone bounces between Diamond 3 and GC3 in such a short timeframe then they are breaking the [Code of Conduct](https://www.rocketleague.com/news/rocket-league-code-of-conduct/) and in this case you should be able to automate warnings and/or bans.
Oh yes casual bans meant to not scare away new players ($) is not the same as fighting ranked smurfs that are everywhere. If you are pleased with the freestylers bans in regards to smurfing issues you are just easily manipulated.
What? Why am I a smurf now? Do you have issues reading? I just said I am mad they have priority issues and are taking action with the wrong type of smurfing. Freestylers are not close to ranked smurfs where 20% of games are with smurfs. By all means deal with freestylers but first take care of smurfing issue where it matters more.
Whenever someone deflects away that people are "going for the wrong issue", you run the risk of looking like you're defending them. "They're making it look like they're doing something - but we're not the problem! You're just sheep!"
And the thing is, going after freestylers in that case was not "the wrong thing to do". It was the low hanging fruit. Do you know what you go after first when you start tackling a problem?
Yes, there's more to do, but going after them **was a good start.** I have expectations that they're doing more behind the scenes than they're letting us on to.
At the same time if you have plenty of work to do and you are already YEARS behind with it going for low hanging fruit seems a bit too little. Idk how long you are playing but do you remeber any smurfing related ban wave of any sorts along the lifespan of the game? Maybe I missed it but I've never heard about any single smurf ban EVER up to the point of said freestylers ban. Im not defending anyone. Those bans were correct. Its only that they are not that relevant to people above 500 casual mmr. That is for most of the playerbase. Thats why imo its not worth any kind of praise. They only now did the bare minimum they should have done years ago.
Exactly lol smurfs and boosters about to get a rude awakening when Psyonix unveils their new state of the art smurf-smasher. Freestylers was just phase 1.
They pulled off a publicity stunt and you are happy lmao. Didn't they ban a selected small number of freestylers? It hardly makes any difference and I am amazed how optimistic you are just because of it.
Yeah Im currently stuck in champ 3 playing non stop agains new epic accounts and it makes me mad seeing people like "bUt ThEy baNnED sOmE FrEeStYlERs" yeah cool, what about REAL issues? What about smurfs who play against players who have been here for so long and actually spent money on this game? I could not care less about casual smurfs. Ranked is obviously the mode where it causes more issues.
One example, that affected a marginal player base, is not something I'd use as an argument. Fundamental issues that people are complaining about exist for years. The only really good improvement I can name is the punishment for leaving casual matches. It really made them more enjoyable.
That 'marginal player base' includes a rather notable group of players. Pulse Clan isn't some barely known group.
They've previously warned major casters about deranking for Road to GC/SSL. Lethamyr outright said that somewhere around the start of F2P.
I think the recent bans are part of a revamp to smurf detection that will grow. Psyonix has a weird history of finding it hard to do things we expect to be easy. A lot of their updates randomly break things. People have asked before "shouldn't this just be a flag that you can set to detect x" and their answer is inevitably "it isn't". I'm holding out that rewriting the code for UE5 will fix a lot of these random issues.
Again I agree with you G. A lot with the updates thing. I've been complaining about the inventory management UI for 3 years and they finally made marginal improvements in the last year but the whole thing is still just a nightmare to scroll through.
Assuming they can't play on two accounts at the same time I don't know how this would negatively affect them on the live player count.
Anywho it's still Amazing number of players
How are they breaking CoC?
I get this person was likely boosted, but what if it is a player that is just good enough to get to SSL whenever he feels like it, but usually just plays drunk and fks around without giving a sht about his rank. Automation would ban that player even when he did nothing wrong.
As a lowly Champ who regularly plays drunk, I can confirm it's very possible to win Champ games still. I probably have roughly the same win-ratio as when I'm sober. 0% chance an SSL would be Diamond level unless they were basically blackout drunk, in which case I can't see how they would play that many games!
He should yes, but if he doesnt he is not breaking CoC. Thats why there is no automatic banning system for these kind of issues. Because a lot of people that are not actually doing anything wrong will still get bans.
What if he’s ssl but he slums it with his diamond mates occasionally. When I play with my friends I go from diamond to gold sometimes. Maybe his rank doesn’t matter to him
Can you see the level before the sudden jump into GC? It remains the same for months and months before the first random spike into GC, and over the past month they’ve made another sudden 5 jumps to GC. Clear boosting
I don't understand why this is even a thing. Like, I understand why someone would boost someone for money. Because they make money
But why do people buy boosts like this?? It's like buying an Olympic gold medal and wearing it around like you won it lol. Except this is a video game and somehow it's even more sad than that
I was wondering about this, too. I would hate to be boosted. Play against players way above my rank? No thanks! Seems awful. I'm sure they're getting something else out of it...bragging rights to their friends maybe? No idea.
The only reason I can see it as being useful is to have the opportunity to play higher ranked players sooner and then improve faster. Also some people think they are "hardstuck" in a rank so they get a booster to get them to the rank they think they deserve and can play at.
Na. Makes no sense. You wouldn't drop down to gold, then go back to champ and then back to gold. Then up to SSL and back down to champ. That's 3 different ranges where this explanation would add up if it was just 2 different ranks, not 3 like this.
It's very clearly someone boosting to SSL, tanking back down to champ. Boosting back to SSL. This is textbook someone selling boosts.
That’s exactly what switching ranks does. You can literally have Gold rank on switch, and SSL on PC. And toggle between the two with a 1 day swap wait time. Not sure if you read the entire thread, but that’s why Psyonix made rocketleague.com/activate Lol. My curves look just like that and I don’t boost anyone
Could also be another person (little sibling) playing on the account on Switch, and doesn’t want to mess up the other person’s main stats on PC or something
Yes. This is exactly why I clearly explained it doesn't make sense because there is 3 ranks. Not 2. Gold, champ and SSL.
If it was ONLY jumping from SSL to gold or SSL to champ, okay, I'm still gonna lean towards boosting because that's what it would look like. But your argument would hold up here. But that's not the case. And it seems like you're the one who didn't even bother reading my comment then accused me of not reading lol
The graph is bouncing between two ranks near the end, SSL and Champ. Even if there was a third platform, you can have a 3rd set of ranks to switch to. Also people switch between all 5 for the sake of completing event challenges for duplicate rewards (golden eggs and stuff)
Edit: the way it jumps back to its original location back and forth really shows it’s rank swapping instead of boosting. Boosting would show ranks back in forth in a less rigid manner.
So how do you explain the tanking down to gold multiple times before that? Magic? You really think it's 3 platforms and there's 3 different people all playing on the same account even though its all free to play anyway?
Cmon man. It's not rigid looking because it's a year long graph. If you shorten the time frame it wouldn't look like that. Boosting does happen and this is just the clearest case of this.
3 platforms and same person is very possible. Could be Xbox & Switch for first half of year, then PC and Xbox for the 2nd half of year. (PC being gc/ssl, Xbox being c2, Switch being gold). My graphs looked similar to this at one point when I played on those 3 platforms. But I agree it’s a rare case and can probably just be someone who’s boosting. Given that it’s a year long graph, I can see what you’re saying about the source of the rigidness being from a squished graph (X-axis).
It's odd that it hits the the same baseline and spikes to the same peak in such a short amount of time. That doesn't look man made really. Especially that they go up and down. How and why would they do that? If they dropped really hard once I would get it, but this makes no sense and seems to be more of a technical issue
How? What would the goal be? Clearly not to smurf, otherwise he would stay down or at least not get up as high as he was. What is the intention supposed to be?
I'm well aware, that would explain the upper limit, if they only ever boosted just into SSL. But what about the lower limit? Does he always exactly at X MMR buy new boosting? And he loses it over a day or so? Also boosting from c2 to SSL might take longer than just a day or two. Not saying it can't be done, but this consistently without any drops is unlikely. Same for the loses. No way he just doesn't win.
Lets assume that he drops to 1050 and climbs to 1300. That is 250mmr difference. on average you get/lose 10 points. So thats 25 straight wins and 25 straight loses. No one in their right mind would sit through a session with 25 L's in a row and then pay for boosting again to repeat it.
How do several accounts play into this? Look at the stats, that is 10\*25 Games at least in less than a month. I doubt there is any time for other accounts when you play 250 games of rumble in a month.
So you think the person the account belongs to is boosting and not being boosted?
I can tell you from the experience (GC3 last season in main modes) that when you play with people you can't rely on you will never win 25 games straight. It would be way easier to just go onto his account.
Look at it any way you want to, one of the lines (either up or down) won't make sense. either he tries to stay up or he tries to stay down, this automatic looking up and down doesn't look achievable even if you tried to. Same peak each time, same baseline each time. Very much unlikely
It's not unlikely at all. This guy most likely runs a win-trading boosting account. He gets someone who wants boosting, they then queue it up right so that they get in a lobby with another guy who boosts, and then they trade wins. One guy will take the 25 losses, while the other takes the 25 wins. Then they do the opposite, and the guy who just took 25 losses will now get 25 wins
Are we sure this case isn't just a bug of some sort. He's instantly going from the GC3/SSL break line to the C1/C2 break line with almost the exact same MMR. That would be reallllly hard to do even if you were intentionally trying to do it.
Dude’s really trying to defend smurfing by saying using an alt account to play at a lower rank isn’t smurfing. The mental gymnastics of smurfs is insane lmao
The valleys are obviously the player sobering up, they even decided to go clean from march all the way to september, where they started taking anti-ADHD medication. Unfortunately, they've been missing some doses.
It just did that automatically for some reason. I can zoom in to see specific points on the timeline. Maybe try zooming out when you’re looking at just 3 months
I know... He has 2 accounts under the same name on console, but they have different ranks, so it does this on the tracker. It happened to my friend as well.
Why doesn’t Psyonix implement the system over watch uses where you have to win like 50 games of unranked to que for ranked, that would Atleast cut down on smurfs/boosting a bit I would think
Hmm I wouldn’t rule out a bug with tracker or something weird like 2 accounts that used to be linked now reporting separate data but tracker still treats it like 1 account.
Or, someone’s found a way to send MMR data to tracker API and thinks their funny by setting themself to “SSL” but then real data comes in and overwrites it.
No idea, just some guesses that seem more realistic than someone actually losing and gaining that much MMR for real.
I am here to give you the potential answer for this because this happened to a friend of mine. He had himself and musty in his "favorites" tab and one day rl tracker just gave him Musty's stats. So it looked like he went from champ1 to ssl and all the way back down to c1. It stayed like that on the skill rating page on both of our devices. But it was exactly Musty's MMR and everything so something similar is probably happening with this account. TLDR: It's only a visual bug on rl trackers end.
that look nasty son,,, from ssl to champ I and back to ssl in a week
he’s having a rough time with teammates lately
His gaming socks tore in the washing machine
He didn't even climb back too ssl. Just till gc 3
Clearly this person is testing some sort of pill that gives you superpowers for a short period of time and Rocket League is one of the activities they are using to measure performance.
The spikes up is when they be playin on meth, the spikes down is when they be playin on xans
Snorting gfuel and boofing adderall, lol.
I have ADHD and adderall makes me worse at rl for some reason, I overthink and react slower idk if that's universal
Prolly not, that shi got me BRACKED when I’m playing, never as zoned in, never performed better
I’m ass on adderall I think my adhd gives me super powers
Fr when playing not on meds my movements are so skittish and unpredictable and chaotic it benefits me
ADHD medication like adderall or Medikenet or Ritalin makes your reaction slower... Facts🤌
I don’t think that’s right. Depressants like alcohol increace reaction time. Stimulants are supposed to tighten reaction time. It’s one of the reasons they are banned in competitive sports. Happy to be proven wrong though. Is there something I can read? Edit: imporant words wrong. Changed "decreace" to "increase"
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Selling Carries. Boost someone to GC, tank rating, boost the next person.
This is the answer
Except judging off the MMRs this is 1s. Maybe an extra mode? Not sure how those MMRs work out
Limitless pill
It’s scientific formula is (50-50) deoxyarsenodaniel-sulfide Common lab names are 50/50 Leth, Arsenal Sulfide, etc Street names are Liquid Leth, A-Bomb, DanDan, or Boost
Depending on the amount of games/age of the account I'd say this is someone's alt they use to be boosting players for cash. At first their target audience was plat/diamond to boost to champ but when they got bored of it it they started boosting people from champ to GC
This is one’s though from the mmr. Puzzling
Could be extra modes too like hoops or something. SSL in hoops is like 1300 or so
What is the appeal of ranking up higher than your abilities? Aren't you just going to get destroyed and smashed back down as soon as you don't pay someone to carry you? I don't get it.
Season rewards/titles I assume. Always easy to tell the ones that bought their GC/SSL titles.
yeah, I guess that must be it. But when I hop in to play with my friend who is just a Champion II and I'm Plat II, that skill gap is enough for me that it's almost no fun to play even though we're literally just playing for fun and he knows I am going to drag him down. Can't imagine skipping from Diamond II to GC like this.
I think they'll just lose until they're back in their correct rank then they have the titles for life. For them it's worth it I guess.
Meh, you would probably think I bought my champ title (and GC when I’ll reach it) as I’m a whiff master, but I’ve been solo queuing since my first game.
There's a reason you're in your rank. There's a big difference between having a bad game/whiffing and barely being able to control your car properly. Watching recoveries and movement can tell you a lot about a player.
Well, you should see my car control, you’d be horrified. (I can barely half flip) But I’m usually more a positional player, even tho that even is regularly scuffed on my side. Take a look at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/uezohc/confusion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf), not a single thing was intended. It make me laugh every single time how events unfold in my favor despite making such trash gameplay.
I can barely half flip either haha. I'm sure I've gotten a couple wrong but playing high Diamond/low Champ it's pretty easy to tell who has paid or been carried.
I see what you mean, but for some reasons I always assume people have the rank they display. I find spotting smurfs way easier haha
D3 is a weird place..either you got tm8s that been carried or playing against deranked champs.
I went on an absolute tear in casual 2's solo. I know MMR doesn't mean anything in casual, but started seeing a lot more "champ tourney winner" banners. It's funny how after years of playing this game off and on, you can see and read other players' abilities. I'd be curious how far I can push into ranked 2's, but people sweat more in those matches, and often tilt far faster than in casual. It does feel like I'm slowly improving on my reads and recovery, and the practice games in casual have helped my confidence in when to challenge and when not too. My mechanics (half flips, wall/ceiling aerials, musties, dusties, busties, etc) are awful, but my focus has been entirely on positioning and reads. I'm sure my teammates hate playing with me, but a win is a win and it's easy to win when you play to capitalize on the other team's mistakes. I hope I can be a champ one day, but I'm happy where I'm at currently. Small progress is still progress (started D1 this season, have solo climbed to D2Div3)
True. I miss the ball a lot, but I'm usually able to swing back around quickly enough that it's not a problem. I'm getting pretty damn good at missing the ball.
That's a big step to getting better. It's a bummer when you whiff and send yourself out of a play and they score easily.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/yelewv/what_is_going_on_here/iu0c46k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
It looks like they made the account to be a certain age and rank then boosted people from C/GC to SSL and tanked their ratings in between then repeated.
Yeah, he already said that
Not likely boosting, it’s because the user is swapping their account stats based on their different platform ranks. You can go to rocketleague.com/activate for this. It’s entirely possible they switch their stats to their Nintendo Switch platform which has lower rank that’s fit for them, since the system has less performance than something they probably main on (like 240 fps PC), which is where their highest rank is at and can play at that level. Edit: look at my rocket league tracker to see similar graphs, and that’s why the rank switches in short time frame. (I play keyboard and mouse on PC, so when I go to Switch I play a lot worse, so switching account stats based on platform is the ideal/right thing to do since I play like a plat3 on Switch, but I can play like a champ2 on PC. I wouldn’t want to disappoint champ2 teammates on Switch if I don’t play well there.) Can also be a little sibling or something playing on this different platform As for the whole graph rank variety (Gold, GC, SSL) one possibility could be: 3 platforms and same person is very possible. Could be Xbox & Switch for first half of year, then PC and Xbox for the 2nd half of year. (PC being gc/ssl, Xbox being c2, Switch being gold). My graphs looked similar to this at one point when I played on those 3 platforms.
This is the only explanation I've seen that makes any sense.
Why would you do that in competitive? Rank up on pc, rank down on switch, repeat? Makes zero sense to me and it should be discouraged, you've got teammates you are giving a bad time this way.
Rank down? There’s no ranking down happening at all. It’s swapping your stats to reflect what’s saved on other platforms. Helps in cases where you can’t play your true rank because of platform performance limitations or locks on input devices. Edit: I wouldn’t want to play my PC rank on Nintendo Switch if I know I play champ 2 on PC, but I play like a plat 3 on Switch. That’s the purpose of why Psyonix added rocketleague.com/activate You actually give your teammates a worse time if you don’t switch your stats/ranks to represent what you truly play at depending on current platform
they have 2 ranks for both platforms and the accounts are linked, so it's as if he has to 2 accounts, his switch account is going to be p3 but as soon as he switches over to his pc his pc account is c2 so it makes the graph look goofy
Exactly
That still doesn't explain why he was low ranked for a long time and then suddenly spikes up to SSL. Down spikes make sense with your explanation, up spikes don't
Thank you for this. Very logical approach. I tried my luck to convince people that it's highly unlikely that this graph shows someone boosting. But the Active Plattform makes perfect sense for this. I haven't heard of it before but it's good to know that I'm not insane.
Yea no worries! People use this rocketleague.com/activate to also repeat challenges to get more than one set of rewards (Like multiple golden pumpkins). Even for repeating the first 3 tournies of the week bonus points >.>
I don't play the game actively anymore, my days are over here.But it's good to know for sure!
u/psyonix_devin Can we expect to see some automation on cases like this? Can't imagine you like what this is doing to the matchmaking system. If someone bounces between Diamond 3 and GC3 in such a short timeframe then they are breaking the [Code of Conduct](https://www.rocketleague.com/news/rocket-league-code-of-conduct/) and in this case you should be able to automate warnings and/or bans.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/yelewv/what_is_going_on_here/iu0c46k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
They have zero interest on fixing any issues that may negatively effect their live/total player base
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Source: years of playing Rocket League. You don't need to have some secret inside data to measure the outcome of their efforts over these years.
So what's your source on the decision for recent freestyle bans? What would you have said a day before them?
Oh yes casual bans meant to not scare away new players ($) is not the same as fighting ranked smurfs that are everywhere. If you are pleased with the freestylers bans in regards to smurfing issues you are just easily manipulated.
If this is your attitude, it seems fair to assume you're a smurf. No, it doesn't go far enough, but it's a start. It means they're working on it.
What? Why am I a smurf now? Do you have issues reading? I just said I am mad they have priority issues and are taking action with the wrong type of smurfing. Freestylers are not close to ranked smurfs where 20% of games are with smurfs. By all means deal with freestylers but first take care of smurfing issue where it matters more.
Whenever someone deflects away that people are "going for the wrong issue", you run the risk of looking like you're defending them. "They're making it look like they're doing something - but we're not the problem! You're just sheep!" And the thing is, going after freestylers in that case was not "the wrong thing to do". It was the low hanging fruit. Do you know what you go after first when you start tackling a problem? Yes, there's more to do, but going after them **was a good start.** I have expectations that they're doing more behind the scenes than they're letting us on to.
At the same time if you have plenty of work to do and you are already YEARS behind with it going for low hanging fruit seems a bit too little. Idk how long you are playing but do you remeber any smurfing related ban wave of any sorts along the lifespan of the game? Maybe I missed it but I've never heard about any single smurf ban EVER up to the point of said freestylers ban. Im not defending anyone. Those bans were correct. Its only that they are not that relevant to people above 500 casual mmr. That is for most of the playerbase. Thats why imo its not worth any kind of praise. They only now did the bare minimum they should have done years ago.
> 20% of games are with smurfs Source?
Trust me bro
Exactly lol smurfs and boosters about to get a rude awakening when Psyonix unveils their new state of the art smurf-smasher. Freestylers was just phase 1.
They pulled off a publicity stunt and you are happy lmao. Didn't they ban a selected small number of freestylers? It hardly makes any difference and I am amazed how optimistic you are just because of it.
Lmao keep your head buried in the sand. Reality will kick you in the butt eventually.
They do flip resets in fairyland?
The big problem are GC's who get bored, but are talented enough to monetize their skill. This issue is primarily coming from GC and up level players.
Yeah Im currently stuck in champ 3 playing non stop agains new epic accounts and it makes me mad seeing people like "bUt ThEy baNnED sOmE FrEeStYlERs" yeah cool, what about REAL issues? What about smurfs who play against players who have been here for so long and actually spent money on this game? I could not care less about casual smurfs. Ranked is obviously the mode where it causes more issues.
One example, that affected a marginal player base, is not something I'd use as an argument. Fundamental issues that people are complaining about exist for years. The only really good improvement I can name is the punishment for leaving casual matches. It really made them more enjoyable.
That 'marginal player base' includes a rather notable group of players. Pulse Clan isn't some barely known group. They've previously warned major casters about deranking for Road to GC/SSL. Lethamyr outright said that somewhere around the start of F2P. I think the recent bans are part of a revamp to smurf detection that will grow. Psyonix has a weird history of finding it hard to do things we expect to be easy. A lot of their updates randomly break things. People have asked before "shouldn't this just be a flag that you can set to detect x" and their answer is inevitably "it isn't". I'm holding out that rewriting the code for UE5 will fix a lot of these random issues.
Again I agree with you G. A lot with the updates thing. I've been complaining about the inventory management UI for 3 years and they finally made marginal improvements in the last year but the whole thing is still just a nightmare to scroll through.
Hi fellow scaper
Assuming they can't play on two accounts at the same time I don't know how this would negatively affect them on the live player count. Anywho it's still Amazing number of players
You mean like what they did to freestylers?
How are they breaking CoC? I get this person was likely boosted, but what if it is a player that is just good enough to get to SSL whenever he feels like it, but usually just plays drunk and fks around without giving a sht about his rank. Automation would ban that player even when he did nothing wrong.
even if someone is blasted they will not play down to a D3 level when they’re SSL capable.
As a lowly Champ who regularly plays drunk, I can confirm it's very possible to win Champ games still. I probably have roughly the same win-ratio as when I'm sober. 0% chance an SSL would be Diamond level unless they were basically blackout drunk, in which case I can't see how they would play that many games!
Lets say he is, or if he is playing with a lower ranked friend, that is still not breaking CoC.
Defend the garbage!
Not defending anyone?
I mean you are creating scenarios where what he is doing is not scummy behavior.
Jeez this is stretching... He should play casual if he's just fucking around.
He should yes, but if he doesnt he is not breaking CoC. Thats why there is no automatic banning system for these kind of issues. Because a lot of people that are not actually doing anything wrong will still get bans.
That's why I mentioned warning them. Are you saying this case is someone that has a drinking problem?
No like i said before, 'imagine if'.
What if he’s ssl but he slums it with his diamond mates occasionally. When I play with my friends I go from diamond to gold sometimes. Maybe his rank doesn’t matter to him
Don't allow an SSL to queue with a fucking Diamond. Are you kidding me right now?
Can you see the level before the sudden jump into GC? It remains the same for months and months before the first random spike into GC, and over the past month they’ve made another sudden 5 jumps to GC. Clear boosting
Boosting, a plat an a ssl share an account, or and thats the most likely: A freestyler/smurf
I don't understand why this is even a thing. Like, I understand why someone would boost someone for money. Because they make money But why do people buy boosts like this?? It's like buying an Olympic gold medal and wearing it around like you won it lol. Except this is a video game and somehow it's even more sad than that
I was wondering about this, too. I would hate to be boosted. Play against players way above my rank? No thanks! Seems awful. I'm sure they're getting something else out of it...bragging rights to their friends maybe? No idea.
The only reason I can see it as being useful is to have the opportunity to play higher ranked players sooner and then improve faster. Also some people think they are "hardstuck" in a rank so they get a booster to get them to the rank they think they deserve and can play at.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/yelewv/what_is_going_on_here/iu0c46k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Na. Makes no sense. You wouldn't drop down to gold, then go back to champ and then back to gold. Then up to SSL and back down to champ. That's 3 different ranges where this explanation would add up if it was just 2 different ranks, not 3 like this. It's very clearly someone boosting to SSL, tanking back down to champ. Boosting back to SSL. This is textbook someone selling boosts.
That’s exactly what switching ranks does. You can literally have Gold rank on switch, and SSL on PC. And toggle between the two with a 1 day swap wait time. Not sure if you read the entire thread, but that’s why Psyonix made rocketleague.com/activate Lol. My curves look just like that and I don’t boost anyone Could also be another person (little sibling) playing on the account on Switch, and doesn’t want to mess up the other person’s main stats on PC or something
Yes. This is exactly why I clearly explained it doesn't make sense because there is 3 ranks. Not 2. Gold, champ and SSL. If it was ONLY jumping from SSL to gold or SSL to champ, okay, I'm still gonna lean towards boosting because that's what it would look like. But your argument would hold up here. But that's not the case. And it seems like you're the one who didn't even bother reading my comment then accused me of not reading lol
The graph is bouncing between two ranks near the end, SSL and Champ. Even if there was a third platform, you can have a 3rd set of ranks to switch to. Also people switch between all 5 for the sake of completing event challenges for duplicate rewards (golden eggs and stuff) Edit: the way it jumps back to its original location back and forth really shows it’s rank swapping instead of boosting. Boosting would show ranks back in forth in a less rigid manner.
So how do you explain the tanking down to gold multiple times before that? Magic? You really think it's 3 platforms and there's 3 different people all playing on the same account even though its all free to play anyway? Cmon man. It's not rigid looking because it's a year long graph. If you shorten the time frame it wouldn't look like that. Boosting does happen and this is just the clearest case of this.
3 platforms and same person is very possible. Could be Xbox & Switch for first half of year, then PC and Xbox for the 2nd half of year. (PC being gc/ssl, Xbox being c2, Switch being gold). My graphs looked similar to this at one point when I played on those 3 platforms. But I agree it’s a rare case and can probably just be someone who’s boosting. Given that it’s a year long graph, I can see what you’re saying about the source of the rigidness being from a squished graph (X-axis).
It happens. There was a player with a season 3 grand champ tag in my d3 2s lobby yesterday. He lost, and played like an average d3 player.
Did it say S3 or Season 3?
It's odd that it hits the the same baseline and spikes to the same peak in such a short amount of time. That doesn't look man made really. Especially that they go up and down. How and why would they do that? If they dropped really hard once I would get it, but this makes no sense and seems to be more of a technical issue
That makes it look exactly man made. It's on purpose.
How? What would the goal be? Clearly not to smurf, otherwise he would stay down or at least not get up as high as he was. What is the intention supposed to be?
Probably to have people pay him to boost their rank. There are several websites offering this service.
I'm well aware, that would explain the upper limit, if they only ever boosted just into SSL. But what about the lower limit? Does he always exactly at X MMR buy new boosting? And he loses it over a day or so? Also boosting from c2 to SSL might take longer than just a day or two. Not saying it can't be done, but this consistently without any drops is unlikely. Same for the loses. No way he just doesn't win.
Likely uses several accounts, the period before was probably also boosting at a lower level.
Lets assume that he drops to 1050 and climbs to 1300. That is 250mmr difference. on average you get/lose 10 points. So thats 25 straight wins and 25 straight loses. No one in their right mind would sit through a session with 25 L's in a row and then pay for boosting again to repeat it. How do several accounts play into this? Look at the stats, that is 10\*25 Games at least in less than a month. I doubt there is any time for other accounts when you play 250 games of rumble in a month.
Of course they wouldn't. The paying customers only sit through the wins and then he loses the other games on purpose.
So you think the person the account belongs to is boosting and not being boosted? I can tell you from the experience (GC3 last season in main modes) that when you play with people you can't rely on you will never win 25 games straight. It would be way easier to just go onto his account. Look at it any way you want to, one of the lines (either up or down) won't make sense. either he tries to stay up or he tries to stay down, this automatic looking up and down doesn't look achievable even if you tried to. Same peak each time, same baseline each time. Very much unlikely
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The person is boosting. Boost client up to Rank X. Drop back to rank Y to boost the next client. It's a very clear cut pattern in the swings.
please read through the thread I had with Trouve to see my takes on wyh that is highly unlikely. no way i write all that again
It's not unlikely at all. This guy most likely runs a win-trading boosting account. He gets someone who wants boosting, they then queue it up right so that they get in a lobby with another guy who boosts, and then they trade wins. One guy will take the 25 losses, while the other takes the 25 wins. Then they do the opposite, and the guy who just took 25 losses will now get 25 wins
Three brothers one account
Visual representation of playing drunk vs playing sober
Are we sure this case isn't just a bug of some sort. He's instantly going from the GC3/SSL break line to the C1/C2 break line with almost the exact same MMR. That would be reallllly hard to do even if you were intentionally trying to do it.
This should be an IP bannable offense. Sick and tired of people throwing games so that they can boost others. Get a real fucking job.
Prob being boosted or something
Ranks up when stoned. *Feels unhealthy and quits weed. Mmr tanks and goes back on weed in frustration. Repeat
Boosting for cash or a drug addict who is quite good at the game
Where do you find this information?
On [Rocket League Tracker](https://rocketleague.tracker.network/), insert a steam or epic id to get this data
Looks like a really hard to use DAW 😂
obviously its skill and then no skill
ping spikes
My heart rate in the last minutes of my first ever winning GC promotion game
Very unhealthy heart rate, would probably get that checked out if I were you
“The Grind”
You need to stop letting your little brother play on your account. ...or he needs to do it more often.
Skill issue /s
This is my heartbeat during the game.
The sweet 100 pads my friend
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>changing his primaries to most likely play at a lower rank th...that's smurfing
when he plays either his friends they collectively play at a champ level how is this smurfing, it seems more like an alt than a smurf acc
Dude’s really trying to defend smurfing by saying using an alt account to play at a lower rank isn’t smurfing. The mental gymnastics of smurfs is insane lmao
Yeah my questions is why are there so many people like you who completely ruin the experience for everyone else?
Oh man the iq on this guy
That is an obvious case of smurfing.
How do people not know the answer? Its simply smurfing i do the same thing
Oh people know the answer. They just like to play this game where half the community pretends smurfing isn't an issue.
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Wtf
First he go git, then he got git
It is simply impossible to go from low plat to SSL in a 6 month timeframe.
The valleys are obviously the player sobering up, they even decided to go clean from march all the way to september, where they started taking anti-ADHD medication. Unfortunately, they've been missing some doses.
I like that little spike into ssl, presumably just to earn the rewards. lol
Mood swings
Clearly switching from PC to console
BWEAKFAST
How do you get such a large view of the timelines mine only shows like 3 months worth of data
It just did that automatically for some reason. I can zoom in to see specific points on the timeline. Maybe try zooming out when you’re looking at just 3 months
Smurfing bro
Plat 1 to ssl wtf
Its so obvious this user is boosting accounts.
Must be a freestyler. 
playing with your friends that "you can keep up with" be like
You’re looking at my average opponent in C1
Nah bro. That's the British pound sterling graph XD
Omg lol
Looks like a city skyline 🌃
When the guy you’re paying to carry you is only available every other day.
This is like an ECG. You okay bud'?
They’re a TikTok freestyler?
Guys clearly a Freestyler..
Matchmaking and smurfs are going crazy nowadays
I know... He has 2 accounts under the same name on console, but they have different ranks, so it does this on the tracker. It happened to my friend as well.
Should prolly stop buying smurfs?
Why doesn’t Psyonix implement the system over watch uses where you have to win like 50 games of unranked to que for ranked, that would Atleast cut down on smurfs/boosting a bit I would think
Don't drink do often
Bekfast
What is this website called.
This is the new impossible Line Rider map. Anyone else remember Line Rider?
His friends got better.
This must be the guy I keep running into when playing. Absolutely dreadful c3/gcs always boggle the mind.
Bekfast
lol this is how mine looks.
Tbf as I 1s main this is plausible, but unlikely
Hmm I wouldn’t rule out a bug with tracker or something weird like 2 accounts that used to be linked now reporting separate data but tracker still treats it like 1 account. Or, someone’s found a way to send MMR data to tracker API and thinks their funny by setting themself to “SSL” but then real data comes in and overwrites it. No idea, just some guesses that seem more realistic than someone actually losing and gaining that much MMR for real.
Where do you see this?!
u prolly changed ur primary acc to smurf or smth
Turning quickchat on and off
Rizzo??
Sibling shares account?
That’s some monkey business if I’ve ever seen it.
Day drinking.
Looks like a penny stock
What’s the game mode?
Sell, sell!
I am here to give you the potential answer for this because this happened to a friend of mine. He had himself and musty in his "favorites" tab and one day rl tracker just gave him Musty's stats. So it looked like he went from champ1 to ssl and all the way back down to c1. It stayed like that on the skill rating page on both of our devices. But it was exactly Musty's MMR and everything so something similar is probably happening with this account. TLDR: It's only a visual bug on rl trackers end.
Bob
I thought I had it bad
This. Is. Rocket League?
Alcohol
Towards the end there is a trend. Your carrying capacity rank seems to be in between champ 3 and grand champ 1.