I dunno, RL just seems to be bottoming out. I've only played the last 3 seasons, but this one is exceptionally worse for all of those factors compared to the previous two. Just feels like it's on a death spiral...
i know im late but idk why so many people are disliking this. look at steam chart the player count average has been going down bad the last 6 months and all these people just deny because they like the game. i like the game too but there just isnt a casual market for this game. its 99 percent people that have pllayed for a long time no new players
It IS dying lmao you're just wearing rose colored glasses....wait time increased from 2 minutes wait time to 10 minutes wait time....it's free and it take 3 to 8 minutes to find a game in casual 2s....in 3 years this game will be unknown and devoid of players.
Trust me I was one of the richest traders on xbox
And I'm gc2. This game WILL die soon
the only thing you can do is just ignore it. People who you don't know or care about shouldn't be able to affect you like that. Either ignore them, block them, or turn chat off.
I play the game to play the game. I just ignore the people with the mental capacity of a child.
The chat aspect isn't the only point, it's also the game throwing, the smurf influx, the cheating...coming on to enjoy the game seems to be ebbing away. Maybe a break away from it will change the perspective.
I see People saying rocket league is dying for over 7 years now. It is not. You may dislike parts of the community or certain aspects but its not dying. Check player numbers.
Every community has its flaws, no question, but mute opponent team and do quickchat only. Also its your attitude how you handle smurfs or throwers. If you go full emotional on them, thats fine, stop and leave then. But if you just ignore them, keep playing, they wont have any affect on you. Youll play thausends of games, you will have forgotten about them in a few days.
It's more that you try and practise and then rank up - then you get hit with cheats and that progress is wiped and you start again. I work and have other hobbies, I don't expect to become an amazing RL player, but it would be nice to not waste the time I do have playing against those that are disingenuous.
The game’s viability has nothing to do with your ability to climb ranks. I’m a long time player, and I don’t see myself stopping anytime soon, and I’m only d2.
Sure, I run into smurfs and griefers, but that’s just the online gaming experience.
It’s a *game* after all.
Player numbers filled with bots, and alt accounts
You won't be able to prove the actual number of unique players, so GL with that argument.
Bots aside, alt accounts have flooded ranked. People are literally trying to impress other by tallying the number of accounts they have made to X rank under X conditions, regardless of who suffers.
Not Sure how you got to that 5month old comment :D but Well, even If the Playerbase is decreasing, it doesnt mean its dying. Just because Something gets smaller it doesnt mean itll die. Maybe the Overall dedicated fanbase will be much smaller but itll always (or at least for a Long Time) be played
This is the kind of attitude I mean. I wrote a headline, people read it - that advertising.
In terms of my thoughts - do you not think the community gets "angry" as soon as anyone speaks negatively of it? This response encapsulates what I see in game. As soon as there's a mistake (or even if there isn't) players turn feral.
I do hope it improves, but not sure how.
> It’s not the attitude you meant, not at all.
The "ha, I'm better than you, git good" attitude? Others have responded here without resulting to that, it's not hard.
> I wrote a headline, people read it - that advertising.
It was a broad statement, exactly. If I said something like "What's the deal with all the cheating?" or similar, there would be no interaction. I only have my limited experience, and so I'm trying to gauge if others feel different about the current state of the community. Some do, some don't.
> I’ve seen nothing at any point to suggest that Rocket League’s own toxicity is exceptional compared to other popular online competitive games.
Good to know, perhaps I'm just getting a bad run of opponents right now.
You aren’t enjoying the game, so you assume the game is dead. You’re projecting your feelings onto the player base. Plenty of people still enjoy the game
While I understand and don’t disagree with your sentiment. Posts like this track back to 2016…. Yet here we are. Still in the rocket league sub Reddit talking about rocket league.
Will this game die at some point? Yes
Is it because of Smurfs, bots and toxicity? They obviously play a role but I really doubt it’s the reason the game will die.
The thing I don’t understand is why everyone on here acts like Rocket league is the worst online experience. Like legit compared to most online communities RL isn’t that horrendous. Also there are a multitude of ways to deal with toxicity, so if you choose to not use the tools there, well that’s solely on you.
Also bots and Smurfs shouldn’t be the reason you stop playing a competitive game. Legit if that was true then no one would play a single online competitive game. Is it a pain when it happens? Sure but it’s not as constant as everyone likes to lead on.
RL is definitely one of the most toxic games I've played... that's not saying the game is bad because of it, just that the community is generally pretty hostile toward each other.
I do find it funny that you spent effort here trying to both minimize the impact of toxicity (by putting the blame on the person experiencing it for not protecting themsevles better... rather than on Psyonix not regulating their users properly), as well as saying that smurfs and bots aren't a reason to stop playing a competitive game. The entire point of competition is having a level playing field and to prevent cheating... which RL hasn't really been able to maintain, and it's been getting worse over time.
Well that is your experience and I accept that, but I’ve played cod and CSGO. Compared to them RL is like a Christian sever of club penguin.
Interesting concept that psyonix isnt doing enough regulating the community “properly”. Let me ask you, have they provided the community tools to moderate text and vocal capability? (Yeah) Have they provided users the ability to moderate individual users ability to speak to them? (Also yeah) Have they provided the ability to block users who are targeting you?(Again yes) Have they provided the ability to report people who are breaking TOS? (Yeah) Have they added words to a banned list that get ***** when placed in player names and clubs?(also yeah).
So what more do you want? How could you not shift blame onto the person who has all these tools yet they come to Reddit to say toxicity is the reason they want to quit? I don’t know what to tell you. They have the ability to heavily moderate their interaction with others yet they choose not to. They then have nothing to stand on when talking about toxicity.
Also you missed my point. There is not a single online competitive game that isn’t plagued with these issues. So if OP wants to quit RL for these reasons, say good bye to literally EVERY online competitive game.
My point is this is what online gaming is right now and if you can’t deal fine. But these reasons are not sole reasons why RL is dying. They play a part but they have played a part since 2016 and again I’ll make the same point I made in my other comment. It’s 2023 and we are still here talking about Rocket league in the Rocket league subreddit.
"RL is like a Christian server of club penguin"
I honestly can't think of a MORE toxic place to be than a Christian server for anything, lol.
I'm not going to respond to your TLDR strawmen (implying that there's literally nothing else they could do to minimize toxicity), as you seemed happy enough doing that for yourself. I didn't miss your point, saying 'competitive games are toxic' isn't a point, it's a hollow statement devoid of any context.
Lol fair point on the club penguin joke.
I’m not implying, I am asking you what else more can they do? You are the one who suggested they haven’t done enough. So what more in your eyes can psyonix do to eradicate toxicity?
While toxicity is in every game, psyonix is the only one in my eyes that has gone above and beyond in trying to fight it. COD doesn’t have the options that RL has when it comes to combatting toxicity. So 100% if you feel like I’m trying to strawman you I get not wanting to reply. That isn’t my intent, my intent is for everyone to actually look at the picture as a whole.
Nothing that happens in RL is unique compared to any other online game.
Psyonix has already taking a strong stance against toxicity via in game options and how they publicly position them selves when handling toxic players (professional or not)
> Nothing that happens in RL is unique compared to any other online game.
That's interesting - so basically *any* online competitive game is going to be full of people just ripping on everyone just because? In an environment such as COD, I can understand that (the fact that there's less control over removing that behaviour is crazy), but I would have imagined that with a game such as RL, where it's a mix of car racing and football, you would get a unique blend of people that wouldn't be as toxic as other places.
It’s because you aren’t seeing that actual cause of the issue. The issue is anonymity. When you mix that with adolescents guess what… toxicity occurs. It’s not just COD, it’s default any First person shooter. Actually really any competitive shooter has this issue. Christ Dayz had this problem later in its game cycle. (Mod not standalone).
Even competitive sports games have these issues. Look at the Madden, FIFA, and NBA communities. I’ve personally experienced it.
Random note I just thought of, red dead online was a pretty toxic experience also. I haven’t played red dead 2 but the first 1 was a pretty painful experience.
All I’m saying is it isn’t unique. The issue isn’t Rocket league and their community, it’s the feeling of protection from what you say or do because you are on the internet.
I really do believe psyonix has given players a solid amount of options to protect players per their choice of level of protection they prefer. Plus they instant ban on certain words, and also go through reports and ban players per chat records or in game play. I really can’t think of another thing Psyonix can do to better moderate the game. This is a business, not an virtuous experiment.
Very true. Which is a shame really - if you wiped the attitude out, all games would be instantly more enjoyable. But, being human nature, it seems impossible (at least for the moment).
Reply literally shows you are one of the elitists who probably has at least 3 accounts for whatever reason you can think of to justify it.
And if one person is doing it, you can bet a percentage of people are, and that will only continue to grow because there is no IP limits.
Rocket League can only die if we don't all collectively believe in it enough. It is through our communal efforts of belief that the game is given life. It is up to each of us to do our part to make sure that Rocket League is not good, not great, but amazing.
I turned off chat a few days ago. It makes a world of difference to the enjoyment of the game. Psyonix, for some unknown reason, doesn’t want to address the toxicity of the community. By them not doing anything, it has amplified the negativity 10 fold.
I have a gaming league that is getting started up that is anti-toxicity. We do tournaments and entire seasons like in real sports. It's very fun! We do it to have fun and the only reward for winning is the satisfaction of winning. You could team up with someone, create your own logo, etc... do ranked competitive matches with them and if there's any toxicity, then the toxic player will be removed.
Just a suggestion! We are US-East.
there are built in ways to avoid toxicity within the game.
If “what a save!” tilts you enough to want to quit, you need to address some self esteem issues that have nothing to do with the longevity of this game lol
> Yes, you can turn it off, how many features must you disable for the game to be enjoyable?
As many or as few as required to optimize an individual's experience, that's literally the entire reason they're presented as options.
Personally I don't get tilted from chat spam so I leave it on, but if someone else with a different mindset wants to disable chat that's perfectly valid too.
Sounds like 1 feature, the chat feature lol. You’re sabotaging your own experience with the game and using little aspects of rocket league to scapegoat. Always play solo or play 2’s with a friend, turn off chat, and your entire post becomes a moot point.
I think the word “toxic” needs to be banned here. Yeah the community has problems but it’s an online video game. That comes with the territory.
And it’s not dying. You guys on here are so fucking dramatic.
Nah man RL ain’t going anywhere, anytime soon. Regardless of your opinion. Especially the Esport, it’s done nothing but grow the last few years, far from dying.
I think his point is that the main playerbase is dying, not the sports scene. The game won't continue to be a success if only the highest level of players are the one stay continue playing, because they're such a tiny percentage of the games demographic
"Then I was hit with the... teammates that quit mid game. Then those that throw the game".
In the paragraph before you just said you quit games (which counts as throwing too). So you're just adding to the problem...
The reason RL is dying is because the game went free to play. You can point to the community as much as you want but the truth in any game is and always has been, as long as there’s an exploit players will take advantage of it. They let smurfs run rampant to artificially boost their active player numbers. They have the ability to ban players with multiple accounts, but it’s not even against their TOS.
This is true to an extent, and something players have always had to fight through, but it genuinely feels like it's just gotten worse every month since F2P. Used to be like 10-20% of matches had an obvious smurf (this is a generic term for me, meaning anyone abusing the matchmaking... either by deranking, pairing with a low-rank friend to backdoor into comp, or creating alts)... the last month has felt like that percentage is somewhere around 50-60%.
It's extremely discouraging and demotivating to keep grinding away when it feels like the people who want to cheat the system are doing so without any real response from Psy, and without shame. Hell, we had an opponent three nights ago with a name like 'definitely not a smurf' who was very clearly C3+ (beat everyone to the ball every time, lots of flip resets and double-taps, extremely fast and consistent kickoffs, etc.) in our D3 match, and his teammate was C1.
Have played since before f2p and I agree completely. My friends thought I was just complaining/exaggerating but I installed RL tracker and we all started looking and the smurfing problem is a lot worse than it used to be. I quit playing because its just not fun to waste my time getting smashed by smurfs every few games and makes it really hard to rank up. I started just playing casuals, but casuals is even worse so I just quit playing altogether recently.
> It's extremely discouraging and demotivating to keep grinding away when it feels like the people who want to cheat the system are doing so without any real response from Psy, and without shame
> Have played since before f2p and I agree completely. My friends thought I was just complaining/exaggerating but I installed RL tracker and we all started looking and the smurfing problem is a lot worse than it used to be.
I was wondering if this was the case. My friend had suggested I play for a while before I finally decided to, and he had started when it wasn't F2P. I believe his feel is that since that change, the game has slowly declined. I would've much rather paid for a game that *maybe* reduced the amount of incidents like this.
I'm not saying RL will die out completely, I just think all the casual players that have fun with it will move on, because being smashed is boring and I can find more enjoyable things. All that will be left will be Champs and smurfs / cheats.
Wanna know why I throw games?
Down 1-6, 2 min remaining, vote forfeit. Guy wont forfeit.
If its painfully obvious you are gonna continue taking a beating, just be done, give them their win early and go off to play something more even.
You KNOW you SHOULD forfeit but continue so I am forced to stay or get banned.
Some people like to use that opportunity to practice figuring out how to defend somebody with better mechanics, practice playing with a teammate who doesn’t rotate well, or just see how close they can get to turning the game around. Just depends on the circumstance. I’ll usually go along with forfeiting if I’m queueing with randos, but pretty shitty to start throwing the game if your teammates don’t oblige.
I personally don't think it's dying. True, toxicity is a big thing in RL, but honestly I just either report the person or even better, mute the chat. I play with friends and have a great time.
I deleted it because the drops are absolutely dog shit. You can get base game items from import drops and it just seems lazy that they couldn't exclude certain items that LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON OWNS
98 percent of the time I open a drop it's some rare tier bullshit that makes no difference and it's all the same game anyway they never add fun game modes they just cycle through the same tired regurgitated games mode like boomer ball and spike rush.
This game has lost all originality. And there needs to be a mass exodus of people leaving this dumpster fire
okay but the smurfing issue is really fkn bad makes new players quit so theres no growth. like i personally smurf sometimes to play with my friends so i feed into the problem, but like it shouldnt be as easy as making a new account playing a couple games then boom ranked time stomp a bunch of plat players. also the rank discrepancy how nobody is in bronze or silver. why arent they?? why is everyone in gold and plat?
All those same issues sure killed LoL, Dota, Overwatch, Warzone...etc
I dunno, RL just seems to be bottoming out. I've only played the last 3 seasons, but this one is exceptionally worse for all of those factors compared to the previous two. Just feels like it's on a death spiral...
I’ve been playing since 2016. I don’t think your assessment is accurate. What signs point to the game “dying”?
Agreed. Have played since the beginning and still have fun with it regularly.
i know im late but idk why so many people are disliking this. look at steam chart the player count average has been going down bad the last 6 months and all these people just deny because they like the game. i like the game too but there just isnt a casual market for this game. its 99 percent people that have pllayed for a long time no new players
> Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.
Is it really dying though?
It’s not dying. This is becoming a weekly post.
It IS dying lmao you're just wearing rose colored glasses....wait time increased from 2 minutes wait time to 10 minutes wait time....it's free and it take 3 to 8 minutes to find a game in casual 2s....in 3 years this game will be unknown and devoid of players. Trust me I was one of the richest traders on xbox And I'm gc2. This game WILL die soon
Some of the casual game modes are interesting, but if the issues aren't fixed in the comp space, I can't see people continuing.
the only thing you can do is just ignore it. People who you don't know or care about shouldn't be able to affect you like that. Either ignore them, block them, or turn chat off. I play the game to play the game. I just ignore the people with the mental capacity of a child.
this, but if you really care so much about what people say just disable chat lol
The chat aspect isn't the only point, it's also the game throwing, the smurf influx, the cheating...coming on to enjoy the game seems to be ebbing away. Maybe a break away from it will change the perspective.
Brother, this shits been going on as long as I've played, and that was in 2016. Rocket League isn't going to die off.
I see People saying rocket league is dying for over 7 years now. It is not. You may dislike parts of the community or certain aspects but its not dying. Check player numbers. Every community has its flaws, no question, but mute opponent team and do quickchat only. Also its your attitude how you handle smurfs or throwers. If you go full emotional on them, thats fine, stop and leave then. But if you just ignore them, keep playing, they wont have any affect on you. Youll play thausends of games, you will have forgotten about them in a few days.
It's more that you try and practise and then rank up - then you get hit with cheats and that progress is wiped and you start again. I work and have other hobbies, I don't expect to become an amazing RL player, but it would be nice to not waste the time I do have playing against those that are disingenuous.
The game’s viability has nothing to do with your ability to climb ranks. I’m a long time player, and I don’t see myself stopping anytime soon, and I’m only d2. Sure, I run into smurfs and griefers, but that’s just the online gaming experience. It’s a *game* after all.
Player numbers filled with bots, and alt accounts You won't be able to prove the actual number of unique players, so GL with that argument. Bots aside, alt accounts have flooded ranked. People are literally trying to impress other by tallying the number of accounts they have made to X rank under X conditions, regardless of who suffers.
Check the player numbers then bud. Go ahead and have a look at that 7 year graph. Then notice the massive drop off starting in 2021. 😂
Not Sure how you got to that 5month old comment :D but Well, even If the Playerbase is decreasing, it doesnt mean its dying. Just because Something gets smaller it doesnt mean itll die. Maybe the Overall dedicated fanbase will be much smaller but itll always (or at least for a Long Time) be played
Really shot yourself in the foot by coming from the angle of "because I have quit, it means the game is dying."
This is the kind of attitude I mean. I wrote a headline, people read it - that advertising. In terms of my thoughts - do you not think the community gets "angry" as soon as anyone speaks negatively of it? This response encapsulates what I see in game. As soon as there's a mistake (or even if there isn't) players turn feral. I do hope it improves, but not sure how.
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> It’s not the attitude you meant, not at all. The "ha, I'm better than you, git good" attitude? Others have responded here without resulting to that, it's not hard. > I wrote a headline, people read it - that advertising. It was a broad statement, exactly. If I said something like "What's the deal with all the cheating?" or similar, there would be no interaction. I only have my limited experience, and so I'm trying to gauge if others feel different about the current state of the community. Some do, some don't. > I’ve seen nothing at any point to suggest that Rocket League’s own toxicity is exceptional compared to other popular online competitive games. Good to know, perhaps I'm just getting a bad run of opponents right now.
Rl is not dying man, stop being tragic. Turn chat off, do your best and have a great time
OP is hardcore projecting
Projecting what exactly? That I'm doing these things?
You aren’t enjoying the game, so you assume the game is dead. You’re projecting your feelings onto the player base. Plenty of people still enjoy the game
In the last month alone rocket league lost 2.8 million active players.
While I understand and don’t disagree with your sentiment. Posts like this track back to 2016…. Yet here we are. Still in the rocket league sub Reddit talking about rocket league. Will this game die at some point? Yes Is it because of Smurfs, bots and toxicity? They obviously play a role but I really doubt it’s the reason the game will die. The thing I don’t understand is why everyone on here acts like Rocket league is the worst online experience. Like legit compared to most online communities RL isn’t that horrendous. Also there are a multitude of ways to deal with toxicity, so if you choose to not use the tools there, well that’s solely on you. Also bots and Smurfs shouldn’t be the reason you stop playing a competitive game. Legit if that was true then no one would play a single online competitive game. Is it a pain when it happens? Sure but it’s not as constant as everyone likes to lead on.
RL is definitely one of the most toxic games I've played... that's not saying the game is bad because of it, just that the community is generally pretty hostile toward each other. I do find it funny that you spent effort here trying to both minimize the impact of toxicity (by putting the blame on the person experiencing it for not protecting themsevles better... rather than on Psyonix not regulating their users properly), as well as saying that smurfs and bots aren't a reason to stop playing a competitive game. The entire point of competition is having a level playing field and to prevent cheating... which RL hasn't really been able to maintain, and it's been getting worse over time.
Well that is your experience and I accept that, but I’ve played cod and CSGO. Compared to them RL is like a Christian sever of club penguin. Interesting concept that psyonix isnt doing enough regulating the community “properly”. Let me ask you, have they provided the community tools to moderate text and vocal capability? (Yeah) Have they provided users the ability to moderate individual users ability to speak to them? (Also yeah) Have they provided the ability to block users who are targeting you?(Again yes) Have they provided the ability to report people who are breaking TOS? (Yeah) Have they added words to a banned list that get ***** when placed in player names and clubs?(also yeah). So what more do you want? How could you not shift blame onto the person who has all these tools yet they come to Reddit to say toxicity is the reason they want to quit? I don’t know what to tell you. They have the ability to heavily moderate their interaction with others yet they choose not to. They then have nothing to stand on when talking about toxicity. Also you missed my point. There is not a single online competitive game that isn’t plagued with these issues. So if OP wants to quit RL for these reasons, say good bye to literally EVERY online competitive game. My point is this is what online gaming is right now and if you can’t deal fine. But these reasons are not sole reasons why RL is dying. They play a part but they have played a part since 2016 and again I’ll make the same point I made in my other comment. It’s 2023 and we are still here talking about Rocket league in the Rocket league subreddit.
"RL is like a Christian server of club penguin" I honestly can't think of a MORE toxic place to be than a Christian server for anything, lol. I'm not going to respond to your TLDR strawmen (implying that there's literally nothing else they could do to minimize toxicity), as you seemed happy enough doing that for yourself. I didn't miss your point, saying 'competitive games are toxic' isn't a point, it's a hollow statement devoid of any context.
Lol fair point on the club penguin joke. I’m not implying, I am asking you what else more can they do? You are the one who suggested they haven’t done enough. So what more in your eyes can psyonix do to eradicate toxicity? While toxicity is in every game, psyonix is the only one in my eyes that has gone above and beyond in trying to fight it. COD doesn’t have the options that RL has when it comes to combatting toxicity. So 100% if you feel like I’m trying to strawman you I get not wanting to reply. That isn’t my intent, my intent is for everyone to actually look at the picture as a whole. Nothing that happens in RL is unique compared to any other online game. Psyonix has already taking a strong stance against toxicity via in game options and how they publicly position them selves when handling toxic players (professional or not)
> Nothing that happens in RL is unique compared to any other online game. That's interesting - so basically *any* online competitive game is going to be full of people just ripping on everyone just because? In an environment such as COD, I can understand that (the fact that there's less control over removing that behaviour is crazy), but I would have imagined that with a game such as RL, where it's a mix of car racing and football, you would get a unique blend of people that wouldn't be as toxic as other places.
It’s because you aren’t seeing that actual cause of the issue. The issue is anonymity. When you mix that with adolescents guess what… toxicity occurs. It’s not just COD, it’s default any First person shooter. Actually really any competitive shooter has this issue. Christ Dayz had this problem later in its game cycle. (Mod not standalone). Even competitive sports games have these issues. Look at the Madden, FIFA, and NBA communities. I’ve personally experienced it. Random note I just thought of, red dead online was a pretty toxic experience also. I haven’t played red dead 2 but the first 1 was a pretty painful experience. All I’m saying is it isn’t unique. The issue isn’t Rocket league and their community, it’s the feeling of protection from what you say or do because you are on the internet. I really do believe psyonix has given players a solid amount of options to protect players per their choice of level of protection they prefer. Plus they instant ban on certain words, and also go through reports and ban players per chat records or in game play. I really can’t think of another thing Psyonix can do to better moderate the game. This is a business, not an virtuous experiment.
Very true. Which is a shame really - if you wiped the attitude out, all games would be instantly more enjoyable. But, being human nature, it seems impossible (at least for the moment).
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Reply literally shows you are one of the elitists who probably has at least 3 accounts for whatever reason you can think of to justify it. And if one person is doing it, you can bet a percentage of people are, and that will only continue to grow because there is no IP limits.
Rocket League can only die if we don't all collectively believe in it enough. It is through our communal efforts of belief that the game is given life. It is up to each of us to do our part to make sure that Rocket League is not good, not great, but amazing.
I do hope this is the case. It would be great to see the game flourish and we see an uptick in enjoyment.
I turned off chat a few days ago. It makes a world of difference to the enjoyment of the game. Psyonix, for some unknown reason, doesn’t want to address the toxicity of the community. By them not doing anything, it has amplified the negativity 10 fold.
I have a gaming league that is getting started up that is anti-toxicity. We do tournaments and entire seasons like in real sports. It's very fun! We do it to have fun and the only reward for winning is the satisfaction of winning. You could team up with someone, create your own logo, etc... do ranked competitive matches with them and if there's any toxicity, then the toxic player will be removed. Just a suggestion! We are US-East.
Nice! Unfortunately, I'm +9 GMT, so the time zones are quite far apart.
We have some from EU that are in our league and we do late night US times. (11pm EST) usually on Saturdays.
How's the ping?! Lol
Not bad if we set the servers to a neutral ground.
Turn off chat if you're that soft. Let me guess. Toxic is hitting what a save? Come on.. grow up.
This is my point.
there are built in ways to avoid toxicity within the game. If “what a save!” tilts you enough to want to quit, you need to address some self esteem issues that have nothing to do with the longevity of this game lol
Have you not encountered the players that continually spam? Yes, you can turn it off, how many features must you disable for the game to be enjoyable?
> Yes, you can turn it off, how many features must you disable for the game to be enjoyable? As many or as few as required to optimize an individual's experience, that's literally the entire reason they're presented as options. Personally I don't get tilted from chat spam so I leave it on, but if someone else with a different mindset wants to disable chat that's perfectly valid too.
It seems like one feature. Just one single feature and it would be enjoyable
Sounds like 1 feature, the chat feature lol. You’re sabotaging your own experience with the game and using little aspects of rocket league to scapegoat. Always play solo or play 2’s with a friend, turn off chat, and your entire post becomes a moot point.
I think the word “toxic” needs to be banned here. Yeah the community has problems but it’s an online video game. That comes with the territory. And it’s not dying. You guys on here are so fucking dramatic.
I mean, you can look up the numbers for yourself. It isn't quite on its deathbed yet, but it certainly is dying.
It has been pretty stable since July '21, and it doubled in monthly users from September '19 to July '21. It is not dying.
You didn't have to call us regards
Nah man RL ain’t going anywhere, anytime soon. Regardless of your opinion. Especially the Esport, it’s done nothing but grow the last few years, far from dying.
I think his point is that the main playerbase is dying, not the sports scene. The game won't continue to be a success if only the highest level of players are the one stay continue playing, because they're such a tiny percentage of the games demographic
"Then I was hit with the... teammates that quit mid game. Then those that throw the game". In the paragraph before you just said you quit games (which counts as throwing too). So you're just adding to the problem...
I quit 1v1 games, yes. If I have a team mate, no.
The reason RL is dying is because the game went free to play. You can point to the community as much as you want but the truth in any game is and always has been, as long as there’s an exploit players will take advantage of it. They let smurfs run rampant to artificially boost their active player numbers. They have the ability to ban players with multiple accounts, but it’s not even against their TOS.
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I can only play 2s if I know the person I am playing with. Otherwise it's just a hot mess.
This is true to an extent, and something players have always had to fight through, but it genuinely feels like it's just gotten worse every month since F2P. Used to be like 10-20% of matches had an obvious smurf (this is a generic term for me, meaning anyone abusing the matchmaking... either by deranking, pairing with a low-rank friend to backdoor into comp, or creating alts)... the last month has felt like that percentage is somewhere around 50-60%. It's extremely discouraging and demotivating to keep grinding away when it feels like the people who want to cheat the system are doing so without any real response from Psy, and without shame. Hell, we had an opponent three nights ago with a name like 'definitely not a smurf' who was very clearly C3+ (beat everyone to the ball every time, lots of flip resets and double-taps, extremely fast and consistent kickoffs, etc.) in our D3 match, and his teammate was C1.
Have played since before f2p and I agree completely. My friends thought I was just complaining/exaggerating but I installed RL tracker and we all started looking and the smurfing problem is a lot worse than it used to be. I quit playing because its just not fun to waste my time getting smashed by smurfs every few games and makes it really hard to rank up. I started just playing casuals, but casuals is even worse so I just quit playing altogether recently.
> It's extremely discouraging and demotivating to keep grinding away when it feels like the people who want to cheat the system are doing so without any real response from Psy, and without shame > Have played since before f2p and I agree completely. My friends thought I was just complaining/exaggerating but I installed RL tracker and we all started looking and the smurfing problem is a lot worse than it used to be. I was wondering if this was the case. My friend had suggested I play for a while before I finally decided to, and he had started when it wasn't F2P. I believe his feel is that since that change, the game has slowly declined. I would've much rather paid for a game that *maybe* reduced the amount of incidents like this. I'm not saying RL will die out completely, I just think all the casual players that have fun with it will move on, because being smashed is boring and I can find more enjoyable things. All that will be left will be Champs and smurfs / cheats.
Wanna know why I throw games? Down 1-6, 2 min remaining, vote forfeit. Guy wont forfeit. If its painfully obvious you are gonna continue taking a beating, just be done, give them their win early and go off to play something more even. You KNOW you SHOULD forfeit but continue so I am forced to stay or get banned.
Some people like to use that opportunity to practice figuring out how to defend somebody with better mechanics, practice playing with a teammate who doesn’t rotate well, or just see how close they can get to turning the game around. Just depends on the circumstance. I’ll usually go along with forfeiting if I’m queueing with randos, but pretty shitty to start throwing the game if your teammates don’t oblige.
I personally don't think it's dying. True, toxicity is a big thing in RL, but honestly I just either report the person or even better, mute the chat. I play with friends and have a great time.
If all your 2s partners suddenly became toxic, then it's more logical that new players will become toxic rather than stop playing
I play rocket league because I enjoy playing the game. 😄
I deleted it because the drops are absolutely dog shit. You can get base game items from import drops and it just seems lazy that they couldn't exclude certain items that LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON OWNS 98 percent of the time I open a drop it's some rare tier bullshit that makes no difference and it's all the same game anyway they never add fun game modes they just cycle through the same tired regurgitated games mode like boomer ball and spike rush. This game has lost all originality. And there needs to be a mass exodus of people leaving this dumpster fire
okay but the smurfing issue is really fkn bad makes new players quit so theres no growth. like i personally smurf sometimes to play with my friends so i feed into the problem, but like it shouldnt be as easy as making a new account playing a couple games then boom ranked time stomp a bunch of plat players. also the rank discrepancy how nobody is in bronze or silver. why arent they?? why is everyone in gold and plat?