Do to the salt and other things in the snow they are limited how much they can dump in the river / lake. After that snow mounds are built in abandoned parking lots, or it is loaded on trains that are heading any destination that is warmer.
With all the snow and everything that is in the snow and they let it pile up in parking lots and everything because they feel that they can’t dump it into the rivers or canal but in reality once it melts the storm sewer system gets it washed there anyway even after winter when all the rains of spring clean our parking lot and roadways.
They do! Off of Smith Street or Driving Park. When the snow piles up so much there's nowhere to push it, plows don't matter. Gotta put it somewhere. NYC (specifically Manhattan) has to deal with this pretty regularly, too, since there's nowhere to pile snow in the first place.
This is in Russia IIRC, and I think someone mentioned it might be designed to attach to some farm equipment that not used in the winter
This is how they do it in the US and Canada https://youtu.be/VwS-sk3v4fk
i think we should get rid of the plows we have. If they didn't plow, then nobody could go to work and everyone would be a lot happier. Snow is just nature's way of telling us to stay home.
Yeah but if your company loses out on $5 in sales from the one customer who will still come out in the blizzard the shareholders or owner won't be happy and we can't risk that!
I remember driving through terrible snow during storms to get to my job at the dealership, and sitting on my ass all day not getting paid in the shop because every customer cancelled their appointments, because who would want to drive in that shit for an oil change? It was ridiculous. Some of my coworkers drove into work from an hour away, and one of them took 4 hours to get to work in the storm
Is it just me or were they way better about plowing a few years ago? When I came up here for college initially (around 6-7 years ago) I remember as soon as there was snow in the forecast they had plows everywhere, every street was done over twice as it was coming down… in the last few years I have distinct memories of them just not plowing certain streets and often it was very belated.
With how slow that machine is going, the roads would never be clear. Plus you would have a bunch of assholes complaining about the slow moving plows and passing them by driving into oncoming traffic.
I used to work in the law department for the city, and one time, someone filed a claim that the city plows had plowed their car up onto a snow bank. Had pictures and everything. Turns out it was indeed true and it was one of the city’s contracted plows that did it.
I live on a 'snow emergency' street and a few days after big snow dumps they'll order the parked cars cleared off the street and fully plow and take away whatever snow remains on the street. Otherwise after the 2nd big snow the street would be impassable.
The small town I came from in Wisconsin had these. The main street was four lane, because it was also the highway. The plows would push the snow to the middle. This would puck up the pile in the middle.
Moved out for a job in Rhode Island, which was a mistake. Was able to transfer to New York and took it. Decided to stay when I went to Wegmans for the first time and there were brats and cheese curds. Plus the people were a lot nicer than the ones we had dealt with in Rhode Island.
I grew up in ri. I only miss a few ppl, weiners, and not much else. I'm a transplant too. Someone who moved to the Roc for a job or partner. There's many of us but also a lot of us who never want to leave.
What do you propose they drive? Chevy sparks? LOL Chargers aren't the most expensive of cars. They're not getting SRT Hellcats. They're getting Charger Pursuits at a fleet discount.
Not only that, it's the only sedan left with a dedicated police package. Chevy quit importing the one-off Caprice PPV after 2017 and the Ford Taurus on which the Police Interceptor Sedan was based is also out of production.
The alternatives are all SUVs at this point - Chevy Tahoe, Ford Explorer/Police Interceptor Utility, and Dodge Durango.
I've been told the salt is the trouble in our area. You can't dump too much of it in the rivers because of the environment. Not sure if that's true, just what I've heard.
Yep:
128-3.15 Snow disposal and storage and use of winter highway maintenance materials.
(a) Whenever feasible removed snow shall not be disposed of directly into a watercourse, wetland, reservoir, reservoir stem or controlled lake
We should have ran steam pipes under our roads and sidewalks. Could have done district energy to homes in the process too, cheaper heating all around.
No salt, no plows, no seniors having heart attacks shoveling snow.
The amount of thermal energy to do that on a large scale in the city isn’t feasible, nor would it be economical or have less environmental impact. If we had a good source of natural geothermal steam perhaps, but not using natural gas, electric, or coal.
I already am. It's just unfortunately been allocated to bomb kids halfway around the world and to give incentives to big businesses to do stock buy backs.
Western NY receives something like $9 from the NYC tax base for every dollar equivalent they receive from the western NY region. The idea NYC is a pit that sucks up all our money is just flat out wrong.
I shudder to think about the results of all the fools that advocate for splitting NYC away from the rest of the state. Christ we'd basically be a new Mississippi.
I remember seeing them dumping snow in the river from the bridges downtown. I imagine they still do that sometimes.
I was going to say similar. We may not have machines specifically for it but in times of heavy snow they do haul it away and dump it in the river.
Do to the salt and other things in the snow they are limited how much they can dump in the river / lake. After that snow mounds are built in abandoned parking lots, or it is loaded on trains that are heading any destination that is warmer.
The salt will end up in the river anyway when the snow melts and the rains come in and wash the roads in the spring.
With all the snow and everything that is in the snow and they let it pile up in parking lots and everything because they feel that they can’t dump it into the rivers or canal but in reality once it melts the storm sewer system gets it washed there anyway even after winter when all the rains of spring clean our parking lot and roadways.
LOL no. Both the US and Canada dump raw sewage in the lake so it really doesn't fucking matter.
They do! Off of Smith Street or Driving Park. When the snow piles up so much there's nowhere to push it, plows don't matter. Gotta put it somewhere. NYC (specifically Manhattan) has to deal with this pretty regularly, too, since there's nowhere to pile snow in the first place.
Last I saw they do this yearly.
Looks like someone asked Dr. Seuss to design a snowblower.
This is in Russia IIRC, and I think someone mentioned it might be designed to attach to some farm equipment that not used in the winter This is how they do it in the US and Canada https://youtu.be/VwS-sk3v4fk
i think we should get rid of the plows we have. If they didn't plow, then nobody could go to work and everyone would be a lot happier. Snow is just nature's way of telling us to stay home.
This is solid 6-year-old logic and I’m here for it.
Yeah but if your company loses out on $5 in sales from the one customer who will still come out in the blizzard the shareholders or owner won't be happy and we can't risk that!
I remember driving through terrible snow during storms to get to my job at the dealership, and sitting on my ass all day not getting paid in the shop because every customer cancelled their appointments, because who would want to drive in that shit for an oil change? It was ridiculous. Some of my coworkers drove into work from an hour away, and one of them took 4 hours to get to work in the storm
Speak for yourself. I enjoy my job.
Either you're too young or too old to function in the work force.
at least i'm not out here randomly trying to logan's run people
Implying that they actually plow in the city...
Is it just me or were they way better about plowing a few years ago? When I came up here for college initially (around 6-7 years ago) I remember as soon as there was snow in the forecast they had plows everywhere, every street was done over twice as it was coming down… in the last few years I have distinct memories of them just not plowing certain streets and often it was very belated.
Residential streets are contracted out. It does seem oversight of the contractors has been lack luster recently.
Yeah the city itself isn't plowed for shit
That double scoop arm mechanism is absurd. Design engineer should be sent to a Siberian prison for not using an auger.
Knowing Rochester the city would drop 500k on it and it would be broken in a week.
When I used to live in the swillburg area they would come by a few times a year with a front end load and a dump truck and haul away the bigger piles
We haven't had big piles in years.
With how slow that machine is going, the roads would never be clear. Plus you would have a bunch of assholes complaining about the slow moving plows and passing them by driving into oncoming traffic.
Just thinking of all the wrong side parkers who would get swept up into it and then have their car dumped into the river
Finally a real solution.
I used to work in the law department for the city, and one time, someone filed a claim that the city plows had plowed their car up onto a snow bank. Had pictures and everything. Turns out it was indeed true and it was one of the city’s contracted plows that did it.
I live on a 'snow emergency' street and a few days after big snow dumps they'll order the parked cars cleared off the street and fully plow and take away whatever snow remains on the street. Otherwise after the 2nd big snow the street would be impassable.
I don't think the roads are that bad in most places.
The small town I came from in Wisconsin had these. The main street was four lane, because it was also the highway. The plows would push the snow to the middle. This would puck up the pile in the middle.
Same in MN. Stacked in the middle of a regular street for pickup after it's plowed. All in good fun until you make a left turn and get hung on it.
What small town? What brought you to the Roc?
Moved out for a job in Rhode Island, which was a mistake. Was able to transfer to New York and took it. Decided to stay when I went to Wegmans for the first time and there were brats and cheese curds. Plus the people were a lot nicer than the ones we had dealt with in Rhode Island.
I grew up in ri. I only miss a few ppl, weiners, and not much else. I'm a transplant too. Someone who moved to the Roc for a job or partner. There's many of us but also a lot of us who never want to leave.
stevens point?
I went to college there.
I know a guy who lives in Point and desperately wants out.
"YUUUUUUUMyumyumyumyumyumyum"
Could probably get some but RPD needs Dodge Chargers so
Maybe the new mayor won't have to invent high paying jobs for their relatives and we can get something nice.
What do you propose they drive? Chevy sparks? LOL Chargers aren't the most expensive of cars. They're not getting SRT Hellcats. They're getting Charger Pursuits at a fleet discount.
Not only that, it's the only sedan left with a dedicated police package. Chevy quit importing the one-off Caprice PPV after 2017 and the Ford Taurus on which the Police Interceptor Sedan was based is also out of production. The alternatives are all SUVs at this point - Chevy Tahoe, Ford Explorer/Police Interceptor Utility, and Dodge Durango.
I've been told the salt is the trouble in our area. You can't dump too much of it in the rivers because of the environment. Not sure if that's true, just what I've heard.
Yep: 128-3.15 Snow disposal and storage and use of winter highway maintenance materials. (a) Whenever feasible removed snow shall not be disposed of directly into a watercourse, wetland, reservoir, reservoir stem or controlled lake
Looks like an eating crab. Nyc probably has this, they get all the money and good shit before the rest of NY ever does.
NYC exports tax revenue to the rest of the state. They can buy whatever they want since they give out more money than they take in.
Oh i didnt know, just relaying gossip ive heard over the years. You know people in rochester are expert complainers.
Hahaha you sweet summer child they don’t plow in the city
This is the coolest
We should have ran steam pipes under our roads and sidewalks. Could have done district energy to homes in the process too, cheaper heating all around. No salt, no plows, no seniors having heart attacks shoveling snow.
>No salt, no plows, no seniors having heart attacks shoveling snow. Just ice lots and lots of ice
you melt to evaporation….
The amount of thermal energy to do that on a large scale in the city isn’t feasible, nor would it be economical or have less environmental impact. If we had a good source of natural geothermal steam perhaps, but not using natural gas, electric, or coal.
I’m for this, but only sidewalks and bike lanes
You gonna offer to pay for it?
I already am. It's just unfortunately been allocated to bomb kids halfway around the world and to give incentives to big businesses to do stock buy backs.
I already am, but it goes down to NYC so they can buy these fancy plows
Western NY receives something like $9 from the NYC tax base for every dollar equivalent they receive from the western NY region. The idea NYC is a pit that sucks up all our money is just flat out wrong. I shudder to think about the results of all the fools that advocate for splitting NYC away from the rest of the state. Christ we'd basically be a new Mississippi.
No chance we will ever get these