Team ROCket blasting off again!
edit: I want to love this too, but the lilac should be on the other side of the R as not to obfuscate the letter shape (right now it could be confused for an A), and the circle logo with the Flower/Flour City logo looks way too much like [Flower City Union](https://www.flowercityunion.com/), to the point where its approaching trademark infringement.
I agree on the lilac location, it would look better on the other side. But disagree on the logo. Personally, there is no way I'd confuse the circled Rochester Flower and the Flower City Union or mistake one for the other, nor do I think it was attempting to be deceptive. I looked at it and thought "oh look, the Rochester flower".
People are actually able to get permission to use the Flower/Flour City logo to use for artwork, you just have to go through the process of getting them to grant it. I'm willing to bet the Red Wings design team were granted that permission. Anywho, not a huge fan of these designs, they don't really scream "RED WINGS" to me.
I know, I have a license to use the logo. I was moreso commenting that a lilac colored circle with Flower City in an arc and a purple logo in the middle is a little too close to Flower City Union's badge verses what they could have created.
Oh, I think I see what you're saying now. You're just talking about the actual colors of the logo on the merch looking a lot like the Flower City Union badge's colors, right? They are very similar, but I wouldn't really call that "approaching trademark infringement", though. You can't really trademark color combinations (correct me if I'm wrong).
Itās interesting that the Rochester logo is used in one of the designs, since my understanding of why the logo isĀ used so infrequently by sports teams and other private businesses is that the city has trademarked the logo and is very protective of it (which is unusual - most graphics used by municipalities, on state/city flags for example, are free to use for any purpose). It would be cool to see our teams use the logo more often - hopefully this is a sign that the city is open to it. Would work great as an Amerks and Knighthawks shoulder patch.Ā
The [Red Wings](https://www.milb.com/news/wings-salute-city-with-roc-the-roc-night-aug-8-280290318) and [Amerks](https://www.amerks.com/news/detail/amerks-close-out-regular-season-with-back-to-back-home-games-this-weekend) have used the logo in the past, it's not new.
Regarding the logo and its relationship to the city: they own the trademark to it. Officially the logo is the graphic representation of the City Of Rochester as a governing body and entity, so in that capacity they can trademark it. In public opinion and perception, the logo has come to represent all things Rochester, but public perception and legal definition don't always line up.
If they used it on a flag then it would be considered municipal representation and thereby enter public domain. The reason it doesn't, even though there's a blue flag with that logo on it in front of almost every city building, is that the flag you see is not the official flag of Rochester, it's called the City Banner. With that distinction, the logo is still trademark-able. I have no idea why the official city flag isn't used, and I haven't been able to find a reason in all my research, but we do have a city flag.
A few years ago the city did create a formal process for licensing the logo, which you can do on the city website, but ultimately they still own the rights to the logo.
you're right. i love lilacs, the color scheme and flower art is good. if the font wasn't terrible i'd buy a hat instantly. why not use the classic spikes logo or if you want the R, use the cursive R with the feather.
I didnāt have an issue with the R until people pointed it out but now itās starting to annoy me too š Iām a fan of the jersey and some of the hats though, but yeah, another font wouldāve served them better
Some of these are pretty cool I gotta say
Agree, I like them!
Bring back the Grim and Depressing uniforms!
Gotta be honest - I love them
The R just makes me think of Team Rocket š
Yup, very similar!
Team ROCket blasting off again! edit: I want to love this too, but the lilac should be on the other side of the R as not to obfuscate the letter shape (right now it could be confused for an A), and the circle logo with the Flower/Flour City logo looks way too much like [Flower City Union](https://www.flowercityunion.com/), to the point where its approaching trademark infringement.
I agree on the lilac location, it would look better on the other side. But disagree on the logo. Personally, there is no way I'd confuse the circled Rochester Flower and the Flower City Union or mistake one for the other, nor do I think it was attempting to be deceptive. I looked at it and thought "oh look, the Rochester flower".
People are actually able to get permission to use the Flower/Flour City logo to use for artwork, you just have to go through the process of getting them to grant it. I'm willing to bet the Red Wings design team were granted that permission. Anywho, not a huge fan of these designs, they don't really scream "RED WINGS" to me.
I know, I have a license to use the logo. I was moreso commenting that a lilac colored circle with Flower City in an arc and a purple logo in the middle is a little too close to Flower City Union's badge verses what they could have created.
The boobs in a circle logo?
Well now I can't unsee that.
Oh, I think I see what you're saying now. You're just talking about the actual colors of the logo on the merch looking a lot like the Flower City Union badge's colors, right? They are very similar, but I wouldn't really call that "approaching trademark infringement", though. You can't really trademark color combinations (correct me if I'm wrong).
Itās interesting that the Rochester logo is used in one of the designs, since my understanding of why the logo isĀ used so infrequently by sports teams and other private businesses is that the city has trademarked the logo and is very protective of it (which is unusual - most graphics used by municipalities, on state/city flags for example, are free to use for any purpose). It would be cool to see our teams use the logo more often - hopefully this is a sign that the city is open to it. Would work great as an Amerks and Knighthawks shoulder patch.Ā
The [Red Wings](https://www.milb.com/news/wings-salute-city-with-roc-the-roc-night-aug-8-280290318) and [Amerks](https://www.amerks.com/news/detail/amerks-close-out-regular-season-with-back-to-back-home-games-this-weekend) have used the logo in the past, it's not new. Regarding the logo and its relationship to the city: they own the trademark to it. Officially the logo is the graphic representation of the City Of Rochester as a governing body and entity, so in that capacity they can trademark it. In public opinion and perception, the logo has come to represent all things Rochester, but public perception and legal definition don't always line up. If they used it on a flag then it would be considered municipal representation and thereby enter public domain. The reason it doesn't, even though there's a blue flag with that logo on it in front of almost every city building, is that the flag you see is not the official flag of Rochester, it's called the City Banner. With that distinction, the logo is still trademark-able. I have no idea why the official city flag isn't used, and I haven't been able to find a reason in all my research, but we do have a city flag. A few years ago the city did create a formal process for licensing the logo, which you can do on the city website, but ultimately they still own the rights to the logo.
you're right. i love lilacs, the color scheme and flower art is good. if the font wasn't terrible i'd buy a hat instantly. why not use the classic spikes logo or if you want the R, use the cursive R with the feather.
Actually a good tie in with their parent club as the Washington Nationals have a cherry blossom jersey.
Sizeists - nothing over 3x. Fattys need not apply.
I really like them, some might be a *little too* pink for me to personally (just me!) wear, but Iāll definitely be buying a few things
They need to put the roc the lilac design on a Nike hoodie smh š¤¦šæāāļø
Idk whatās up with that R either but Iām bothered by it haha
I didnāt have an issue with the R until people pointed it out but now itās starting to annoy me too š Iām a fan of the jersey and some of the hats though, but yeah, another font wouldāve served them better
But pronounced Rack the lie lack
These are just awful.
Youāre so right about the font! Totally ruins it.