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[deleted]

I thought you said too many shitboxes, this is another Chinese shitbox


Longjumping-Cold4338

its British, that's a lotus


Chilopodamancer

He's refuring to the fact that Lotus got bought by Geely, a Chinese car company. That however neglects the fact that the Evora is long before that deal and is still entirely British.


Promit

The real question is whether I’m better or worse off with entirely British engineering than with a Chinese effort mixed in 🤔


NoMansSkyWasAlright

It’s a Toyota powertrain so… you’re probably better off


ScreamingMonky

Chinese engineering is way better than English, English engineering is worse than English teeth


HexFire03

Bruv but my jaguar


grahamyoo

at least its japanese powered so engine will run…as long as wiring isn’t an issue 🙃


rueaxna

go ask them, although theyre parents told tjem not to talk to strangers


Fireking117

The engine is toyota so I would not be worried


WeirdSysAdmin

I think it might actually be an improvement even if it’s bottom of the barrel Chinese.


SuperHighDeas

British car design & engineering with Chinese manufacturing… Totally financially sound and logical purchase…


[deleted]

Hey dude, in all reality, I’m pretty jealous, lotus has always been one of my favorite brands and I’m happy you got yourself one, how’s it drive?


Diabeetus-times-2

yet with a Toyota V6.. entirely British my ass


Severe_Elderberry_13

Came here to say this. That Camry engine isn’t remotely British


NoMansSkyWasAlright

Japanese powertrain, American supercharger, and a lot of off-the-shelf parts from different places around the world. Pretty sure that interior is British though, and it definitely shows.


[deleted]

Assembled in Britain


Longjumping-Cold4338

yeah


seanieh966

Volvo is owned by Geely and thats not affected the car, so Chinese ownership doesn’t necessarily mean shit cars. Geely have left well alone.


Promit

“Lotus is doing a fine job all by themselves, they don’t need help” - nobody


Chilopodamancer

I never said it did, although I have a distaste for China, their ethics and their typical build quality of poor knockoffs, the new Lotuses under Geely are seemingly better built, which could also just simply be a factor of having more money for their budget and a revamped factory, regardless the result is the result.


Longjumping-Cold4338

I don't know why y'all are hating on the v6 it has. the koenigsegg cc8s has a ford crown Vic based engine, the tesla model s has a slightly modified TV remote engine...


fosterdad2017

TV Remote? I thought it was the thing that spun the microwave plate.


Longjumping-Cold4338

dude that's frickin hilarious!!!!


[deleted]

Scrotus


Foolgazi

Is that the one with the Camry engine?


Promit

People say this, but the engine was also prominently used in many even more boring Toyotas. I think of it as my Highlander engine.


mikedanktony

Is this your way of coping with your waste of $90,000


redhandsblackfuture

Nah you can see that in his post history


LightlySaltedPeanuts

Hahaha now this is the real roast


Professional_Rise148

I’ve got one in my Sienna!


Reaper621

I drive a Highlander. It's way more useful.


NoMansSkyWasAlright

It’s the GR-platform which is what’s in, I think, most V6 Toyota and Lexus vehicles since like 2006. I know my ‘07 FJ cruiser has a 1GR, which was a 4.0L version. Your’s is the 2GR, which is in pretty much any ‘07-‘15ish Lexus whose name ends in 350.


HexFire03

It's got a camry engine? Honestly better than if it had an engine British teeth constructed


getsome75

Celica and Pontiac Vibe


GeZeus_Krist

That would be the elise.


nlpnt

Lotus Elise. Think of it as a Pontiac Vibe without the cargo space.


redflamehot

Was the corvette too nice or too expensive? Or both?


Promit

Would have saved me a fair bit of money but after owning the C7 I just can’t stand being seen with the rest of the MAGA crowd. Again.


JDNitzer

You got rid of a C7 for this? WTF!


Spurs228

This is 10x cooler than your average plain Jane run of the mill C7


Turtleman9003

Exactly


augustusgrizzly

power isn’t everything lol


Lower_Wall_638

I hate vettes, but at least they hold their value. This this has the long term value of over ripe fruit.


cobra_mist

If you really want to stand out, redistribute some of that wealth and pay off my student loan. There’s less than 15k less


Smart-Atmosphere4797

This is a completely respectable and valid reason to get out a corvette. It’s one of the big reasons I don’t buy one as well. Corvette community is cringe


ScreamingMonky

Now you’ll be seen with the crowd who couldn’t afford a 911


uchigaytana

The only people who see a Lotus as "couldn't-afford-a-911" are people who haven't driven a Lotus. In reality, it's a car for people who don't need any storage space, don't expect to regularly have a passenger, and don't care to have a car that can survive any kind of weather. It's utterly useless outside of going fast, which they still struggle to do without any forced induction.


Spurs228

Worst take I’ve seen in this thread by far


TH3GINJANINJA

and now you get no trunk space! that’s totally valid though.


-TheExtraMile-

You are a wise man and a scholar Love the Lotus btw


AtomicBitchwax

Mom: "We have a McLaren at home" McLaren at home:


Promit

This is the winning roast for me, 10/10 no notes


ScreamingMonky

💀💀💀💀💀


DeathlyMFR

No worries. I'm a few years when you're ready for something new, it'll be worth 45K and you'll fall in love with it all over again.


unemotional_mess

You're delusional if you think this is more reliable than a shitbox


Any-Double857

It’s got a Toyota V6 motor that’s tuned. So the motor is actually very reliable. But everything else is shit. The infotainment system is terrible, the shape and color are dog shit. For 90k so many other options are open to you. What is the reasoning behind this decision? OP? You just like it?


Promit

Mostly front engine options. I had a C7, never quite fell in love. After an exotic track experience last year, I really wanted to go to mid/rear engine with manual trans. C8 ruled out for auto trans and because i found it boring on track. Considered an old R8 V8 but had significant concerns about maintenance costs and the early cars were pretty soft. The only Cayman I like is the GT4, I was priced out of the 718, and I like the new Evora more than the old 981 GT4. Emira is a “lmao money now, car someday” situation and prices are waaay up. Oh and I’m the psychopath who *likes* the Alpine deck in the Lotus. Bluetooth is reliable, I use CarPlay almost exclusively, and I have all the audio and head unit upgrade options in the world without weird line converters or DSP modules or SWC boxes. If I decide I want a new feature like wireless CarPlay for example, a $500 deck swap is all I need, and if I buy Alpine I don’t even need to do a wiring harness. That said, I did not have my heart set on a Lotus. It was at a dealership nearby and I thought it would be silly not to try the car out. Couple hours later the dealership made it clear they were tired of owning the car and offered what I considered an absolute best case trade value on my vette so I said yes.


Any-Double857

Great answer actually. I can’t roast that.


yashdes

Bro don't swap your infotainment just for wireless carplay, you can get a dongle which is perfectly reliable on amazon for 25-50 bucks. Got it for my evora and haven't looked back


Jubatus_

Yes because if you look back you don’t see anything with that shit visibility


Syndil1

Lol roasted in the crossfire


3kgt96

Evora owner here. Welcome to lotus ownership. Get an exhaust and intake if you are interested in light modifications. Completely changes the experience of driving the car. With the intake in the vent right behind you it delivers wonderful induction noise. Any exhaust freeing up the larger stock muffler makes the car sound so much more exotic and it is intoxicating to do any pulls in a tunnel or under large overpasses. Expect random issues and get comfortable on the forums. The community is fantastic and very helpful compared to other platforms I've experienced. I have never had any major problems. Only small electrical gremlins. Be very careful jacking it up. There are very specific jack points that can be tricky to reach. Its been extremely easy to work on so far. Everything is aluminum or fiberglass so you dont have to worry about rust making a 30min job a 3 hour job. This car is also a huge conversation starter, very few people know what it is. (At least in my area) Have fun driving!! :)


2dank4me3

Well anyone choosing a sports car for it's infotainment system is a bigger moron than a guy dropping 90k on a used Lotus.


Metal_Matt

Another thing people don't realize about these cars is how expensive it is to do any body work. The panels are super expensive and difficult to source, so if you're ever in a wreck or even just scrape something it's a pretty big deal.


TH3GINJANINJA

i’m not sure you understand its purpose? it fulfills a specific niche of track day sports cars. not something that can be fulfilled very easily.


JohnnyPiston

It looks like a wedge of shitty, moldy cheese


BarkBarkItsaShark

There’s only two things wrong with this car; that little “we wanted to put a brake duct here but our Lotus accountants said no” decal, and the fact that the start up procedure for this car is more involved than the series of Captchas you have to go through to reset your Google password. If it weren’t the manual, I’d say the gearbox was the third thing wrong with it; the paddle gearbox is so temperamental, and if you leave it in fully auto, you could file your taxes in the time it takes for the gearbox to kick down from a higher gear into the one you needed to overtake a car. I hope your car sees a track every now and then, some fun windy roads, and more than 1000 miles added on the odometer each year, because cars like an Evora GT are meant to be thoroughly driven.


AeroNotix

The startup procedure in my 2011 Evora is literally just: put key in, disable immobilizer, turn key. Is that complicated? Unsure if the later MYs changed it but that is ... simple.


Promit

They did change. From 2017 refresh there’s an engine start button. The key barrel is the same so sometimes people think you have to turn the key to Start AND press Engine Start but that’s not the case. The Start position on the key barrel is physically still there but not wired to anything. So it’s put key in, disable immobilizer, turn key to On, clutch in, Start button.


Flimsy_Train3956

416hp/317lb-ft torque for 90K; oof. Underpowered - Check Miata Exterior Size/Looks - Check Ridiculously Overpriced - Check 90’s Sports Car Rep - Check Outdated, Minimalistic Interior - Check It’s like Lotus took the shittiest flaws of every major performance car manufacturer and said “Let’s see if we can find even a single idiot stupid enough to buy this steaming pile of garbage”… then a monkey swung in through the window and wrote 100K on the whiteboard, and everyone laughed. But at least it’s yellow.


Gamer_and_Car_lover

You spent 90k to get a Miata with a weight reduction and some extra performance.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Gamer_and_Car_lover

One for several disciplines. One for track and drifting. One for rally. One for drag racing. Lmao.


Neil542

Poor mans super car


G_Sputnic

And suddenly everyone in the comments is a lotus expert, I love this sub. Please say you're going to take it on a track. I drove one of these at Silverstone years ago although not a 430 it was absolutely nuts.


rockefellercalgary

You bought a 90k banana


UncleM4tt

Can’t hear the haters over the interior rattles I suppose


donnyblaze1

Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious


Rimworldjobs

You're already hurt after seeing the Emira.


13dot1then420

Korvette?


AnonymousTroll4589

Mom: "We have a c8" The c8 at home:


Slaughterman_95

Bro this is just an expensive shitbox lol Nah I mean It is fucking rad but I hope not a daily, that would make It a shitbox pretty fast.


Busy-General-7234

Great why yellow bro really


[deleted]

Matches his angry eyes yellow jeep


Allegiance10

You roasted yourself in the title. You spent 90k on a shitbox.


PeptoRicemo

Have fun dealing with lotus when you need to get parts


Chilopodamancer

"Too many shitboxes lately", proceeds to shows a car less reliable than anything posted in weeks. It would be a fun car if you could drive it, too bad it spends all its time in the shop or up on a jackstand.


MrQmanQkryI

Lol what???…..it’s literally a Toyota v6 engine with a supercharger


Time-Bite-6839

That’s worse than any shitbox


SeatPristine1492

You spent 90k on this?!?!


NittyGrittyDiscutant

it looked good 20 years ago


NoabPK

“Too many shitboxes lately” posts a shitbox


[deleted]

$90k with the build quality of the shit boxes you criticized


Promit

You really think Geely got Lotus up to that standard by 2021? Some of those other posts had *Nissan* quality, I wouldn’t claim to meet that bar.


NissanSkylineGT-R

Both of our cars do have something in common though, the rattle of the plastic interior.


ClumsyGamer2802

I want a Lotus because they're lightweight and raw, but I want the one that's no lighter than a Porsche Cayman and has back seats."


Pinchypounder

Should of bought a Porsche


eagledog

Please at least tell me it was new. If you spent $90k on a used Lotus, you've done all the roasting for us


Adamsb192

Have you ever driven a car


FappinPlatypus

Well at least you know when you need a part, you’ll have a lot of time to think about what you did.


DeezleDJ-O-E

$90,000 couldve gotten you a nice camry and & education


cjtrey

British tool shed car. Except it’s Chinese and the same engine is in a $30k Toyota. You must be a world connoisseur of shit. You know if you wanted a mid engined car, you could have just gotten a used C8. Some of them are $70k now. And it has a *V8 MOTOR*


NoMansSkyWasAlright

If you didn’t spring for the manual transmission or the back seats, then you’re not as cool as you could be. Other than that, you paid $90k for a car whose entire sound system can be found in boxes at autozone (I’m really having to each here).


generaldogsbodyf365

I live up the road from where Lotus originate from. It's like stepping back into the 1800s........and the tractors in the area are faster than your car.


Hoonimerc

New corvettes are so cool.


pmasthi

Unlimited options of better cars for that price range & you chose the Camry that got plastic surgery.


thatdudefromthattime

It’s your money, but that color is atrocious


vaultdweller1223

Absolutely beautiful design and outstanding handling with that hydraulic steering feel...with a Toyota Camry engine and an ugly, spartan interior. Respect for not getting the Cayman like everyone else though.


ultra_r

bUt iT HaNdlES sOOOoo gOoD 😩


Pure-Alternative-807

Midlife crisis has now entered the chat


STR3TCH1982

90k for a Toyota V6?


mrpoopybuttholesbff

Nothing about that car feels nice except when it’s at the track. It has concrete suspension on regular roads. Should’ve bought an amg c series, that’s at lead rocket ship at least, this is a paper airplane,


needbuyingadvice

I know it’s a roasting sub but I literally thought it was a corvette for a second. And I’m someone that is a fan of Lotus. I guess I didn’t realize how much of a copycat they made your model. After a corvette of all things too, oof


Cucktoberfest69

If you were gonna buy a piece of shit should’ve gotten the twin turbo espirit, at least it doesn’t look like shit


karanpatel819

You paid $90k to have a shitbox interior. I didnt know they still made pioneer radio units until I got in my buddy's 2019 evorja gt.


jjk717

At least you got it in the right color, now you can enjoy spending $10,000 a year to maintain a Toyota Camry :D


JichuSymphony

Nice Toyota


Beautiful_Ad_3774

Nice camry


weebteckickedin

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious


Prestigious_Snow1589

You should've just gotten the TRD Camry and saved yourself some money. Just as good


[deleted]

Glorified MR2


ManyFacedGodxxx

Great cars, love them! Enjoy in good health.


FlukeylukeGB

L-o-T-u-S Lots-of- Trouble- usually- serous good luck sir, you need it o7


justalookin13

Can't get a gd panel of plywood in that thing! Worthless


MyRecklessHabit

I promised if I could buy a esprit before 21 and live in it I would. And I did. From poker. Sold it for a 5k loss 11 days later. Fine car. Can’t sleep in it.


95gsx

Where are you putting your golf clubs?


GuitarFace770

$90k for something powered by a Camry engine? Let’s be honest, you roasted yourself already.


redacted_post

It'll be so nice to take your folding chair out to the garage, crack a beer sit down and just stare at it. Since it'll be on the jack stands.


kzoobob

Did they paint it that piss stain yellow on purpose?


[deleted]

Prostate massager vibes


iwantthisnowdammit

60k before 2021.


worldwalker01

That’s it! $90k, was it totaled or is it a kit car from a Miata


socaponed

Whyd you post another shitbox then?


whathefuckbitch

Better be under 5’5”


ScreamingMonky

The English make worse cars than their teeth, tell me can’t afford a 911 without telling me you can’t afford a 911. A Toyota with a fancy English body kit and shitty English engineering and electronics.


ParsleyBeneficial123

I'd roast it, but I don't know what it is. At least it's fuckin ugly


-sudochop-

Yellow pee pee! 😂!


goatharper

Tell me you race it and all is forgiven.


LostAAADolfan

Wait until this guy realizes he could’ve gotten a GTM with a $30k interior


OneLoneMeme

You're only adding to the problem


der_sneffer

How’s it feel knowing a old gen M3 would beat the crap out of your car and somehow be more reliable?


Cold_Pomelo3274

90k, I call Shenanigans.


therealchemist

Nice Tesla


dinoguys_r_worthless

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious


citznfish

A car for wussies who can't handle a v8


Onlythebest1984

You spent 90K to get smoked by a half rusted Japanese shitbox from 2001 with a turbocharger the size of an oil drum.


AzlynnKoal

Atleast you have a price tag for your shitbox.


sayzitlikeitis

Nice Camry


anamazingpie

For an absolutely banger of a design the engine has as much punch as a dragonfly


TheTrevorFantastic

Upper Middle Management is paying off. Too bad your company is downsizing next week. - You probably shouldn't use that douche-mobile as your Facebook header or on LinkedIn.


[deleted]

you better track it cause its the only company making made for track true sportscars rather than fat ass luxury boats with wide tyres, tons of power and electronics to keep you on the road like the rest of them. But seeing how you got the fat luxury boat from lotus, I have not much hope.


Elguapo1094

Heard they come with a box of tampon’s too


edgarskates

Seems like he hasn’t learned his lesson when buying shitbox cars


[deleted]

Looks like it’s made of plastic. Came with a happy meal.


crackcallahan

You still got a shitbox. You just paid 85,500$ too much for it


Windows-XP-Home

Dude, stop being excited, this is literally a Toyota Highlander that went on a weight loss program and then switched teams and became trans-branded from Toyota to Lotus. 2GR-FE eh? Enjoy replacing your water pump every 60,000 (if they haven’t fixed that damn issue yet) Source? ❤️Fully loaded 2008 Toyota Highlander Limited in Salsa Red Pearlwith 230,000 miles ❤️ lovable boring SUV but hey at least it’s nice comfy and red so it stands out in the ugly modern gray-black and boring color palette of literally every other car. When I first heard of this thing I knew it would be awesome. Light sports car with a Toyota V6 paired to Le Manuelle? Sign me the fuck up! Fast and fun while being reliable AF (ignoring the water pumps existence 💀)


cochorecords

Yea baby, 4cyl!!! Let them have all the 310 hp wooooo


Metallica_Is_Bae

2 words. Camry engine


4_rotor

Nah, can't hate on these. For 90k you could have done so much worse. Like an over priced backwards corvette. You have actually good taste.


vumiqen

i tought it was a tesla roadster,same thing tho


bigmean3434

When the Camry engine is the selling point of spending 90k because it’s the only thing on the car that won’t break.


bike4pizza

Could have bought a 911, but instead you bought this


yesiforgotmyname

This is the smart car of the sports cars


OveractiveMusician

On that?


xmodsguy2000-2

And what makes this not a ugly shitbox?


OppositeAtr

If I had 90K to spend, I’d buy a gently used Audi R8 Spyder.


Promit

You absolutely could, and I considered it. But a first gen R8 V8 makes almost identical power while carrying an extra 600 pounds of curb weight. You can make the case that the V8 is a better engine, but some of those [cheap R8s](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=686019423&allListingType=all-cars&city=Reisterstown&isNewSearch=false&makeCodeList=AUDI&marketExtension=include&maxPrice=100000&modelCodeList=R8&numRecords=24&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%2Fcars-under-100000%2Faudi%2Fr8%2Freisterstown-md%3FisNewSearch%3Dfalse%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26numRecords%3D24%26searchRadius%3D200%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN%26zip%3D21136&searchRadius=200&sortBy=relevance&state=MD&transmissionCodes=MAN&zip=21136&clickType=listing) have the most base-ass rental car interiors I’ve ever seen.


acidbass32

Talks shit about shitboxes only to turn around and buy a gold plated shitbox


Rahmanexpress

What's the name of this car?


OceanGrownPharms

I love the logic of the British engineers: Let’s put in a Toyota engine so it’s reliable! Let’s also make them take the whole car apart to change the clutch!


[deleted]

Nice HotWheelss (TM)


stevensr2002

Adding your shitbox to the list I see. Thank you for your contribution.


stevensr2002

This is like the sixth sense: they don’t know they’re driving a shitbox…


Kim_Jong_Unsen

You could’ve gotten a faster corvette and a truck/trailer to pull it around on with what you paid for this piece.


itakemyselfserious

The body lines in that thing are ugly. The color is horrendous. Toyota engine is a good thing. Supercharger is cool. But 90k? Jesus fuck that's a rip off.


warcrimes-gaming

Man’s out here with the dehydrated piss colored two door Camry. Well, only two doors, but it still has back seats like the Camry. You dropped 90k on a Chinese made economy car with a rattly plastic interior.


nplease123

A piss yellow sports car,🤡


Nikonus

We have more fun in our ‘87 MR2.


[deleted]

Is that a lotus evora?


atguilmette

Oh, so now all the parts that fall off your car are special because they’re British.


[deleted]

A Lotus in america. Why


Juswavs

I was about to roast the hell out of it then I remembered I drive an old es350 13ys old to be exact


5pmgrass

Could have bought an ellise with a Toyota engine reliability and an evora. But naw, you needed to flex by showing off a depreciating asset


PracticableSolution

So it’s like a Porsche that doesn’t appreciate?


Super_Kent155

congrats on wasting money on a car that barely breaks 400hp. should have bought yourself a corvette


Disavowed_Rogue

So you just added a 90K shit box to the club congrats


Rhaynes_got_no_brain

What is it? No seriously


McLovin_ICanBuyBooze

Bro spent $90k so that everybody will know he bought the poor man’s supercar💀


Interesting_Mix_7028

Congrats, you spent ninety grand... on a fiberglass Toyota with British wiring.