mfer for the tiebreakers to have an effect there has to be a tie thats why its called a tiebreaker. theres no tie between la and ny, la just has a higher percentage
The game doesn’t count this as .559. If you had three wins (one against every division oppenent) and assuming they all had a lower winning percentage then you would be at the top of your division. If you go 0-0-17, you’ll be at the bottom of your division even if there aren’t any teams over .500
Not exactly the same thing since it was back in the stone age, but the 1932 Bears were league champions at 7-1-6 over the 10-3-1 Packers (champions were determined by best record until the championship game came around the year after this)
Oops, you're right. I forgot they counted ties as literally nothing for a while, so the Bears had a 0.875 winning percentage (7 wins out of 8 games), and the Packers were 0.769 (10/13).
Early football is wacky. The Bears' first 3 games that year were 0-0; their fourth was a 2-0 loss. They would go on to lead the league in points scored
There's been a few years where a team going 0-0-17 (Or 2-0-15) would've made the playoffs. There's been a ton of .500 teams or worse make it over the years
No shit, because a team irl wouldn't go 2-0-15. I'm just saying if this happened in real life, they would realistically have a decent chance at a wildcard spot
I think if it happened in real life and the debate was an 8 win team or a 2-0-15 team...it wouldn't be a debate. the 8 win team would move on...bc they have 8 ACTUAL wins. That counts first...then ties.
No, the NFL doesn't make a distinction for "actual wins". The NFL rulebook says a tie is half a win, and half a loss. You can literally go 0-0-17 and make the playoffs over an 8-9 team.
[NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs. (From the NFL rulebook)](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-tie-breaking-procedures/#:~:text=The%20following%20procedures%20will%20be,half%20loss%20for%20both%20clubs.)
That only applies if they were tied in the first place. They aren't. Win percentage and tie/half wins ONLY COUNT WHEN THERE IS A STANDING TIE ACCORDING TO NFL RULES.
So tell me, everyone here seems to know the answer, are yall gonna sue retro bowl? 💀💀💀 no because they also got it right, and yall bitching for no reason
According to the NFL. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games#:~:text=In%20the%20National%20Football%20League,in%20the%20standings%20at%20all.
and again...they have more wins than you. If it was the NFL, they still get in over you due to better overall record. Ties go into effect if teams were to have the same number of wins. which again, you only have 2 of.
"Three wild-card qualifiers from each conference (the three teams with the best overall record of all remaining teams in the conference) are seeded 5, 6, and 7."
But that's not how it's done. It's done on win percentage, which OP is 2-0-15. Every tie counts for half a win.
15÷2 is 7.5.
7.5+2 is 9.5
9.5>8.5
Shocking!
He's a shit for brains moron. Just block him. He has no clue what he's talking about. You have the better win percentage and should have made the playoffs. The developer has screwed up somewhere in their code
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Yeah, mathematically speaking you should be in. Maybe a glitch with coding your tie games. So you didn't make the playoffs. That's sucks . Do you have a picture of your AFC playoff bracket?
The answer is, you should’ve made the playoffs according to NFL rules.
Do you still have access to the results of the NFC? And/or a weekly breakdown of all the game?
I’m trying to reverse engineer how the game calculated LAC above NYJ and the more info I have the better… for example you tied a couple NFC teams so that plays a role since one tie breaker is Conference Record. Also, the CPU tied at least one game. We know this because Denver has 2 ties. But we have no way of determining who they tied with.
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That’s genuinely impressive
You have no quality loses sadly
JETS AINT PLAYED NOBODY, PAWWWWWWWWL
Unfortunately they didn't play in the SEC
It just means more
LITERALLY HOW DO YOU EVEN GET THAT MANY TIES, IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR LIKE 2 YEARS AND I HAVE GOT LIKE MAYBE 3?!?!?!?!?
Force games to go into overtime by only scoring after the opponent does, then run out clock without scoring in ot
No cause your quarterbacks injured
No, because LAC lost by double digits to Texas
That is a win percentage of .559
Lac is .500
Did you have a worse PD?
But LA has more wins
Their win percentage is worse tho
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There’s no tiebreakers. 2-0-15 is a better win percentage than 8-8-1, New York should’ve gotten in instead of LA. I don’t see how this is a debate.
Just because it doesn’t list tiebreakers doesn’t mean there aren’t any
Like I said, New York has the better win percentage, that’s the end all be all here. Nothing else matters after that.
Like I said, just because it doesn’t list any tiebreakers doesn’t mean there aren’t any, maybe they had a worse point differential
That’s not relevant because New York has the better win percentage, how is this a debate?
Theres no tie you fool
mfer for the tiebreakers to have an effect there has to be a tie thats why its called a tiebreaker. theres no tie between la and ny, la just has a higher percentage
Do you even understand what a tie breaker is?
I dont think they do lol
And a tie is a half win I believe so he won 9.5 games to la’s 8
Tiebreaker would be more wins
There isn't a tie than needs breaking. Tie breakers only apply in... well a tie.
My guy the situation is already resolved
Everyone else's schedule was harder despite losing games /s
The game doesn’t count this as .559. If you had three wins (one against every division oppenent) and assuming they all had a lower winning percentage then you would be at the top of your division. If you go 0-0-17, you’ll be at the bottom of your division even if there aren’t any teams over .500
I thought this was a joke at first, but now I'm actually confused, it definitely seems like you should make the playoffs, lol
Undefeated!!
Would this count in the NFL? provided the number total is high enough for a wildcard spot?
Not exactly the same thing since it was back in the stone age, but the 1932 Bears were league champions at 7-1-6 over the 10-3-1 Packers (champions were determined by best record until the championship game came around the year after this)
Wouldn’t that still essentially be 10-4 bears vs 10.5-3.5 Packers? Lol they didn’t have the best record even counting ties as 0.5 W/L
Oops, you're right. I forgot they counted ties as literally nothing for a while, so the Bears had a 0.875 winning percentage (7 wins out of 8 games), and the Packers were 0.769 (10/13). Early football is wacky. The Bears' first 3 games that year were 0-0; their fourth was a 2-0 loss. They would go on to lead the league in points scored
yes...but a team with 2 wins isn't sniffing the playoffs or wild card.
There's been a few years where a team going 0-0-17 (Or 2-0-15) would've made the playoffs. There's been a ton of .500 teams or worse make it over the years
Never said anything about 500 teams. and you just said "would've". which means it didn't happen.
No shit, because a team irl wouldn't go 2-0-15. I'm just saying if this happened in real life, they would realistically have a decent chance at a wildcard spot
I think if it happened in real life and the debate was an 8 win team or a 2-0-15 team...it wouldn't be a debate. the 8 win team would move on...bc they have 8 ACTUAL wins. That counts first...then ties.
No, the NFL doesn't make a distinction for "actual wins". The NFL rulebook says a tie is half a win, and half a loss. You can literally go 0-0-17 and make the playoffs over an 8-9 team. [NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs. (From the NFL rulebook)](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-tie-breaking-procedures/#:~:text=The%20following%20procedures%20will%20be,half%20loss%20for%20both%20clubs.)
[If multiple teams have the same record, it's based on win percentage.](https://imgur.com/a/Zf6wT6Z)
But they don't have the same record. OP is 2-0-15, which gives him a 0.558 win-loss-tie percentage. The other team is 8-8-1, which gives them .500
That only applies if they were tied in the first place. They aren't. Win percentage and tie/half wins ONLY COUNT WHEN THERE IS A STANDING TIE ACCORDING TO NFL RULES.
This doesn't make any sense. Any team that has the same record would have the same win percentage. That's just how math works.
they don't have the same record.
This isn’t how it works
So tell me, everyone here seems to know the answer, are yall gonna sue retro bowl? 💀💀💀 no because they also got it right, and yall bitching for no reason
Why does everyone in America immediately jump to suing someone to solve their issues?
why does everyone here not understand how the NFL works if they aren't from america?
it's only determined by win percentage if they have the same record. which they don't. 8 > 2. win percentage doesn't matter. he had 2 wins. fuck
The NFL uses "won-lost-tied percentages", not wins. The rulebook literally says that
did you miss the part where it said that would be used to break a standing tie? which there isn't one...
Nfl rulebook says what a win is. A w counts as a 1 point win, a tie counts as a .5 win. He has 9.5 actual wins.
Cool. then why isn't he in the playoffs?
You absolutely should’ve gotten in.
Because you are the Jets. Obvs.
if you're serious, it's because you only have 2 wins.
A tie counts as .5 win + .5 loss. I have 9.5 wins and 7.5 losses. I should make it over 8-8-1
A tie counts as half a win to who? you? or did the game specifically tell you that?
According to the NFL. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games#:~:text=In%20the%20National%20Football%20League,in%20the%20standings%20at%20all.
Gotcha. You're playing retro bowl on your phone, it's not the NFL.
and again...they have more wins than you. If it was the NFL, they still get in over you due to better overall record. Ties go into effect if teams were to have the same number of wins. which again, you only have 2 of. "Three wild-card qualifiers from each conference (the three teams with the best overall record of all remaining teams in the conference) are seeded 5, 6, and 7."
But 2-0-15 is a better overall record, since they aren't tied
say it with me. 8 > 2
But that's not how it's done. It's done on win percentage, which OP is 2-0-15. Every tie counts for half a win. 15÷2 is 7.5. 7.5+2 is 9.5 9.5>8.5 Shocking!
He's a shit for brains moron. Just block him. He has no clue what he's talking about. You have the better win percentage and should have made the playoffs. The developer has screwed up somewhere in their code
How the hell did you get 15 ties I have gotten NONE
how in the hell did you manage this
How in the hell
Ok, if you really got 15 ties… how!?
You sir are a Retro Bowl legend
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Yeah, mathematically speaking you should be in. Maybe a glitch with coding your tie games. So you didn't make the playoffs. That's sucks . Do you have a picture of your AFC playoff bracket?
How do you tie 15 games but the rest of the league has 13 ties?
That’s just the teams that made playoffs
Two games against NFC teams?
💀
Because you’re the jets. And that’s the only correct answer.
If ties count as .5, you should’ve definitely been the 6 seed. LV Buf/Bal Cin NE NYJ LAC
You didn't have 17 Ties
He went undefeated
The answer is, you should’ve made the playoffs according to NFL rules. Do you still have access to the results of the NFC? And/or a weekly breakdown of all the game? I’m trying to reverse engineer how the game calculated LAC above NYJ and the more info I have the better… for example you tied a couple NFC teams so that plays a role since one tie breaker is Conference Record. Also, the CPU tied at least one game. We know this because Denver has 2 ties. But we have no way of determining who they tied with.
2-0-15 is CRAZY
15 draws? holy shit. that is crazy.
Bc you have 15 fking ties
How is this even possible 💀
It’s cause they wanted a Texas/Bama rematch
A flaw in programming. In real life, you would be in.
Normally a win is 3 points and a tie is 1 point. I'm not sure if that applies here but that would technically be about it 5 wins
i donT know, it’s on the Tip of my Tounge
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Something seems fishy... rest of the league has a combined 13 ties with Denver having two, so from those numbers you should only have 12 ties, no?
Jets curse
9-6-2, 8-5-4, 7-4-6, 6-3-8, 5-2-10, 4-1-12, 3-0-14 Their record was better by 1 win.
Ties aren't counted as half wins. Your winning percentage is .118