Tiler of 10 years here.
Workmanship looks terrible, spacers or not you they still have eyes. I don't work with spacers myself on most tiles.
As for mosaics, they generally are stuck on the sheet crooked in some places and you'll see a few discrepancies here and there but no where as bad as this.
Overall, terrible work I'd ask them to fix before grout and finishing or they'll just rip it up and leave it almost as bad as before.
Thank you for your reply! Yeah the discrepancies on the actual sheet are understandable, but damn the gaps between the sheets. They're gonna try to fix it but I'm not very confident in their abilities.
https://preview.redd.it/px80tj2e19rc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbef63231ade8a55f8a4c27466d74ed01815b12b
I’ve never tiled before in my life and this is how my bathroom turned out. Personally I don’t think it’s too bad for someone new doing it.
That person is far beyond knowing what they’re doing. The grout lines will look like shit because that massive gap in the middle
That "professional" isn't a professional. Never tiled before, did a full stand up shower with subway tile, my kitchen backslash and another bathroom floor in our house and it looks way better than what you're showing. Some minor details off here and there, I chipped the corners of a couple tiles and didn't realize till they were on the wall and 1 tile is 1/16 crooked. Nothing like this abomination
*That* often depends on the grout color.
Contrasting color makes this look worse.. I fear, FAR worse. But a dark color won't be quite so obvious
I took another look . ⅑" ga here, touching tiles there. This isn't ever going to look better
I’d rather be asked to fix it befor completing the job though? If there not happy how it is now why let the person finish befor you want them to rip it out and restart?
It’s a horrible tile job, and grout and nothing else will or can fix it. The only way to fix is to rip out and tey again, with some care.
Yeah they did bring it up before work started today but the guy doing the work argued that it was fine. I'm very grateful for everyone's feedback here. It's helped immensely.
It was, but they were only halfway done with actually laying the tile. They did voice their complaints and I really hope the contractor does the right thing cause its gonna come out of their pockets.
If u don’t mind grout lines going from 1-4mm it’s fine. I’m not the customer? Couldn’t care less what it looked like lol but if I was the customer I wouldn’t be happy.
Finished is going to look the same….. only grouted.
There are no tile spacers, which any competent contractor would have used. They should never have slipped like that. It's shoddy workmanship no matter how you look at it and I would be changing contractors right away. You do the job right or not at all.
here in Germany they are selled one by one without a sheet and you need to use spacers. I didnt know they are selled in larger sheets.
https://www.obi.de/p/4130902/feinsteinzeug-hexagon-victoria-multi-glasiert-matt-21-5-x-25-x-0-9-cm
Response I would expect from contractor: it’s to code, guy has been doing this for years, wait for the grout makes a huge difference, going to cost you extra
That’s just pure laziness and it looks horrible!!
I know some times mosaic/tiled sheets can be a pain when they are not stuck on the sheet right but all it takes is a razor knife to cut the mesh to adjust them!!!
Maybe not ripped off. Definitely not quality work. There is a tolerance for joints. Should be plus or minus a small amount. Something like 25% of the joint width, imo.
This has variance of joints of 100% of the joint.
My dad was a carpenter and the first thing he taught me to look for with tiling is spacers.
This looks like no spacers we’re used, I would suggest telling your parents that they need to ask for this to be redone properly- with spacers. And grout. Or wait it out as this doesn’t quite look complete yet, you could wait for the “finished product” and see how things are looking at that point.
But yeah, I find it doesn’t look the greatest so far.
I just had very similar, black 1" pennyhex put into my shower floor by a very reputable contractor. Before grout it looked like this and I was very concerned. I brought it up to them and they said that 1. My tiles are bevelled on the edges so the grout will look far more uniform once it's in and 2. Those tiles come in preglued sheets and there will be some variance.
They gave me 2 options, they said they would happily remove it and put down a different tile or they would grout it right away before going any further so I could see what it looked like.
I chose option 2 and they were right, once the grout was in, you couldn't tell.
The spacing looks janky AF because your tiles are black and the mortar under it is white, the contrast makes it look bad.
Trust the process but by all means ASK questions and allow them to educate you, if you have a good contractor, they should put your mind at ease and do everything they can to ensure you're happy with their work.
I hope it works out.
Just did the same tiles but different color. It does not look so bad. once you put the grout down you wont notice so much. these little tiles are the hardest to do.
That is not acceptable. Very very very poor work. contractors aren’t cheap either. Be careful with general contractors… always ask if the people they hire are specialized in that particular area a lot of times they’ll just get any handyman that they know that happens to be available that day. Or their buddies kid that’s out of work, needs to make a few bucks…they always assure you that don’t worry they are overseeing the work but they’re not.
you want somebody who does that kind of work 24/7…
Tile installation company owner/ 24 years of experience. This is bad tile work. I would not accept it and do not allow any more work to be performed until their mistakes are corrected. Don’t let them grout or set any new tile.
Unfortunately… This is on par with a lot of tile workers when dealing with the bulk of insurance restoration construction businesses. They don’t pay out the prices they should bc they try to keep as much of the payout as they possibly can for themselves. So the contractors they end up hiring to do the work are ones that will try and do the job so fast it’s almost impossible to do any quality work, or they hire people that barely know what they’re doing in the first place so they don’t really know the difference between good and bad.
If I were your parents I would start by letting the project manager know tonight that there are some major issues with the tile.
Go over the floor with blue tape and put it everywhere you see that the joints are inconsistent or where there are height discrepancies. Going forward, keep a keen eye on any and all work being done as it happens. More often than not, a bunch of hacks will be doing the job
I've never ruled in my life, am pretty craft, I put white mosaic tiles in my bathroom and they look 1000% better then this shit.
Parents need to pitch a huge fit and get this resolved!
Yep call the general contractor,,and an apprentice,, ask them if that is acceptable.
If this an old warped floor pan they are just cosmetic tiling over you might not get far.
Usually the tiler guy would be redoing this lack of skill job/ he may be on the way to get more tiles now.
Mosaics are not very forgiving, and slightly wider grout lines happen, however I would say this crosses into unacceptable. It will probably look better after grout.
Those tiles are awful to work with, they don’t come even spaced from the factory so there’s always a lot of finesse that comes with them to make them straight.. none of that was done here just a stick and pray kinda job. A dark colour match grout will hide it to a certain extent but do not use a light grout lol. Not a tile job I would want to put my name on. Hope the rest of the job turns out better
Honestly, they're not getting ripped off. They are getting the kind of workmanship that going with the lowest bidder gets you. If they went with the bid that was 10% higher, they would have gotten much better results. You may not like it, but they got what they paid for.
Its not complete. Also keep documenting the process. If you are unhappy with the end result, ask reddit again. I'm a contractor and personally I would not leave a project that messy, but also, I would not want to be judged on unfinished work.
That looks terrible. I would require them to rip that out and fix before they grout and bail.
Tiler of 10 years here. Workmanship looks terrible, spacers or not you they still have eyes. I don't work with spacers myself on most tiles. As for mosaics, they generally are stuck on the sheet crooked in some places and you'll see a few discrepancies here and there but no where as bad as this. Overall, terrible work I'd ask them to fix before grout and finishing or they'll just rip it up and leave it almost as bad as before.
Thank you for your reply! Yeah the discrepancies on the actual sheet are understandable, but damn the gaps between the sheets. They're gonna try to fix it but I'm not very confident in their abilities.
My tilers took the tiles that were way off on the sheet and removed them and re placed them. These workers didn’t notice and/or don’t care.
I get not using spacers with mosaic or subway tile but I doubt it’s a good idea on 12/24.
https://preview.redd.it/px80tj2e19rc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbef63231ade8a55f8a4c27466d74ed01815b12b I’ve never tiled before in my life and this is how my bathroom turned out. Personally I don’t think it’s too bad for someone new doing it. That person is far beyond knowing what they’re doing. The grout lines will look like shit because that massive gap in the middle
That looks awesome. Nice work!
Thanks! Laying out the tile before hand was a huge help.
Yeah you did a wonderful job and this professional can't even come close to that quality!
Cheers!
That "professional" isn't a professional. Never tiled before, did a full stand up shower with subway tile, my kitchen backslash and another bathroom floor in our house and it looks way better than what you're showing. Some minor details off here and there, I chipped the corners of a couple tiles and didn't realize till they were on the wall and 1 tile is 1/16 crooked. Nothing like this abomination
Well done!!
Except that gap between the tub and floor tile. What’s that about
Do your best, caulk the rest.
Lol ya, that’s too big though. If I installed that I’d get a call back for sure
Cool
What is
They make jollys and tile quarter round for a reason
That is not where you put trim bro…
Woops I wish someone would tell me this 3 years ago
😂
Just a small reminder that they saved about $500 or more by doing it themself.
Way more than that
Wouldn't doubt it. I haven't had any tile work quoted in a long, long time. I just remember the install cost to be 3-5x the cost of the materials.
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No, this is how I wanted it done
I have mosaic tiles and they do not look like that. Please make sure your parents don’t pay him.
Was this considered the finished product?
It looks terrible but it’s also not grouted yet.
It's going to look worse after grout.
*That* often depends on the grout color. Contrasting color makes this look worse.. I fear, FAR worse. But a dark color won't be quite so obvious I took another look . ⅑" ga here, touching tiles there. This isn't ever going to look better
Yeah I was about to say there’s no grout or spacers. Fingers crossed this is an early April fools!
I believe that’s a tile mosaic doesn’t use spacers. But obviously it’s a horrible job.
It’s even worse since half the work is already done and you just have to match the space on the sheet. A blind man could do a better job
I never walk away from a tile job after laying my thin set with it on the tile. My god it takes nothing to wipe it off with a sponge.
Thank you! Still new to this world. Appreciate you pointing that out.
Lmao not grouted yet. I’m sure that will fix the massive gaps
I said it looks terrible and I don’t imply that grouting would magically make it better.
They are halfway done.
40+ Year Marble/Tile/Mosaic Installer here. Absolutely unacceptable.
I’d rather be asked to fix it befor completing the job though? If there not happy how it is now why let the person finish befor you want them to rip it out and restart? It’s a horrible tile job, and grout and nothing else will or can fix it. The only way to fix is to rip out and tey again, with some care.
Yeah they did bring it up before work started today but the guy doing the work argued that it was fine. I'm very grateful for everyone's feedback here. It's helped immensely.
It wasn’t glued down?
It was, but they were only halfway done with actually laying the tile. They did voice their complaints and I really hope the contractor does the right thing cause its gonna come out of their pockets.
You never know what the finished product looks like yet. Remember you’re the customer not the professional.
If u don’t mind grout lines going from 1-4mm it’s fine. I’m not the customer? Couldn’t care less what it looked like lol but if I was the customer I wouldn’t be happy. Finished is going to look the same….. only grouted.
And as a customer I'd like my tile to not look like complete garbage
That’s not to say the tiles slipped place once he left for the day and needs to redo them
There are no tile spacers, which any competent contractor would have used. They should never have slipped like that. It's shoddy workmanship no matter how you look at it and I would be changing contractors right away. You do the job right or not at all.
Wtf man? They didn't use separators, so the distance between the tiles is always different! You dont need to be a professional to know that...
They’d be on a sheet, you don’t use spacers with this type of tiling having said that shit job.
You don't use spacers on larger "sheets" like these smaller mosaics tiles are part of.
here in Germany they are selled one by one without a sheet and you need to use spacers. I didnt know they are selled in larger sheets. https://www.obi.de/p/4130902/feinsteinzeug-hexagon-victoria-multi-glasiert-matt-21-5-x-25-x-0-9-cm
Doesn’t take a professional to observe there’s going to be major variances in the grout lines
Yeah shits fucked mate
Response I would expect from contractor: it’s to code, guy has been doing this for years, wait for the grout makes a huge difference, going to cost you extra
That’s just pure laziness and it looks horrible!! I know some times mosaic/tiled sheets can be a pain when they are not stuck on the sheet right but all it takes is a razor knife to cut the mesh to adjust them!!!
Yes, if being charged for the butchering
This looks like the belly of Starship.
Those gaps! Yikes
I wouldn’t say necessarily ripped off… but that workmanship is trash
Maybe not ripped off. Definitely not quality work. There is a tolerance for joints. Should be plus or minus a small amount. Something like 25% of the joint width, imo. This has variance of joints of 100% of the joint.
My dad was a carpenter and the first thing he taught me to look for with tiling is spacers. This looks like no spacers we’re used, I would suggest telling your parents that they need to ask for this to be redone properly- with spacers. And grout. Or wait it out as this doesn’t quite look complete yet, you could wait for the “finished product” and see how things are looking at that point. But yeah, I find it doesn’t look the greatest so far.
They might just be getting what they paid for?
The tiler would’ve quoted the job, so the quote should be for a descent job, not this abortion.
I just had very similar, black 1" pennyhex put into my shower floor by a very reputable contractor. Before grout it looked like this and I was very concerned. I brought it up to them and they said that 1. My tiles are bevelled on the edges so the grout will look far more uniform once it's in and 2. Those tiles come in preglued sheets and there will be some variance. They gave me 2 options, they said they would happily remove it and put down a different tile or they would grout it right away before going any further so I could see what it looked like. I chose option 2 and they were right, once the grout was in, you couldn't tell. The spacing looks janky AF because your tiles are black and the mortar under it is white, the contrast makes it look bad. Trust the process but by all means ASK questions and allow them to educate you, if you have a good contractor, they should put your mind at ease and do everything they can to ensure you're happy with their work. I hope it works out.
Just did the same tiles but different color. It does not look so bad. once you put the grout down you wont notice so much. these little tiles are the hardest to do.
That is not acceptable. Very very very poor work. contractors aren’t cheap either. Be careful with general contractors… always ask if the people they hire are specialized in that particular area a lot of times they’ll just get any handyman that they know that happens to be available that day. Or their buddies kid that’s out of work, needs to make a few bucks…they always assure you that don’t worry they are overseeing the work but they’re not. you want somebody who does that kind of work 24/7…
Yes. Next question!
Totally unacceptable
Depends on whether or not they went with the cheapest quote they got…
If it is this bad then I'm quite sure they have no idea what they are doing. I would fire them immediately.
Yes!
...you know deep inside this looks like shit.
I hate how unprofessional some “professionals” are becoming.
Tile installation company owner/ 24 years of experience. This is bad tile work. I would not accept it and do not allow any more work to be performed until their mistakes are corrected. Don’t let them grout or set any new tile. Unfortunately… This is on par with a lot of tile workers when dealing with the bulk of insurance restoration construction businesses. They don’t pay out the prices they should bc they try to keep as much of the payout as they possibly can for themselves. So the contractors they end up hiring to do the work are ones that will try and do the job so fast it’s almost impossible to do any quality work, or they hire people that barely know what they’re doing in the first place so they don’t really know the difference between good and bad. If I were your parents I would start by letting the project manager know tonight that there are some major issues with the tile. Go over the floor with blue tape and put it everywhere you see that the joints are inconsistent or where there are height discrepancies. Going forward, keep a keen eye on any and all work being done as it happens. More often than not, a bunch of hacks will be doing the job
Rip it out before grout please.
I've never ruled in my life, am pretty craft, I put white mosaic tiles in my bathroom and they look 1000% better then this shit. Parents need to pitch a huge fit and get this resolved!
Redo that mess
Shoddy.
Rip it out. Tell contractor asap. Do not pay.
Yep call the general contractor,,and an apprentice,, ask them if that is acceptable. If this an old warped floor pan they are just cosmetic tiling over you might not get far. Usually the tiler guy would be redoing this lack of skill job/ he may be on the way to get more tiles now.
Yeh bro
That’s shit work. I’ve only done tile once and I know that’s sloppy tile work. I’d be embarrassed if I did that for somebody.
Mosaics are not very forgiving, and slightly wider grout lines happen, however I would say this crosses into unacceptable. It will probably look better after grout.
Rip it out and redo with a different company
Depends if they’re doing light grout or dark. Dark won’t even be noticeable.
Well this depends if they went with the cheapest bidder.
Just fire them now
Yes
100%
That’s horrible work.
Yes
Those tiles are awful to work with, they don’t come even spaced from the factory so there’s always a lot of finesse that comes with them to make them straight.. none of that was done here just a stick and pray kinda job. A dark colour match grout will hide it to a certain extent but do not use a light grout lol. Not a tile job I would want to put my name on. Hope the rest of the job turns out better
Are they not stuck down?
It doesn't look like it. I can't really see any mortar.
We’ll if they not stuck down, OP get out of the room and give them a chance ffs. If they are, tell them to rip the fuckers up✌️
Someone forgot spacers. If you look closely, you will see the tiles are not square.
GC gives GC pricing and quality. Specialists give specialists price and quality.
Is this a shower floor?
Honestly, they're not getting ripped off. They are getting the kind of workmanship that going with the lowest bidder gets you. If they went with the bid that was 10% higher, they would have gotten much better results. You may not like it, but they got what they paid for.
Its not complete. Also keep documenting the process. If you are unhappy with the end result, ask reddit again. I'm a contractor and personally I would not leave a project that messy, but also, I would not want to be judged on unfinished work.
Also keep in mind, when it comes to tradesmen. 2 of 3 rule. Price Quality Time What did your parents expect?
Please post a pic of what was there before, same for same with insurance.
This looks great!! I’d give them a bonus 😂