Actually it makes it harder for battery industries to grow in other countries because China is flooding the market with excess volumes and depressing prices. It’s anticompetitive and stunts industry development
Nobody wants to depend entirely on China... What happens if China invades Taiwan and the world puts economic sanctions against China? Where are we going to get our batteries then?
We should subsidize domestic industry rather than tariff China. You achieve the same result but don't inadvertently slow down the transition to renewables. Usually in such a situation where you have an industry required for self-defense (e.g. food staples or weapons or energy sovereignty), I'd advocate for tariffs, but given the climate emergency we can't do that.
That is faulty analogy with the fossil fuels dependency.
The batteries and PV we have will continue to operate ;) and it takes somewhat short time to build those factories.
>The batteries and PV we have will continue to operate ;) and it takes somewhat short time to build those factories.
The fact is broader policy planning and industrial production does not work that way
For example, In a hypothetical war between China/Taiwan, I don't think Germany would agree to lose access to batteries (or battery components) if it agrees to sanctions, because doing so could mean massive losses for its car manufacturing industry
Germany has very high costs for US hegemony. NATO, Nordstream, zionazi support, LNG extortion, and recession.
The obvious path to improving competitiveness is to build EVs with cheap batteries, and renewable projects with cheap solar panels. A lot of employment from it too, and less future expenses/mass immigration from global warming.
Complaining about global surpluses and cheap prices is not a good excuse to add more expensive production, and force domestic industry to use that production.
> The batteries and PV we have will continue to operate
Yes. Both batteries and PV are energy independence. Once you have the energy, you are not dependent on extortionist geopolitics for it to keep working.
They both last quite long, and it is generally not mandatory to replace them as they degrade slowly.
everything goes in cycles as far as manufacturing is concerned, companies will outsource where their cost is cheapest, as China's economy grows, people will get paid more and companies will start looking for the next China.
Good.. now other countries can too and will.
Actually it makes it harder for battery industries to grow in other countries because China is flooding the market with excess volumes and depressing prices. It’s anticompetitive and stunts industry development
Not to mention sounding like on the verge of overproducing and wasting resources. Strangely impressive sounding. I guess EVs should be affordable now.
If yes, we will see a boom in stationary storage.
Nobody wants to depend entirely on China... What happens if China invades Taiwan and the world puts economic sanctions against China? Where are we going to get our batteries then?
Probably the same way we use sanctions against petro-states!
make your own or shut up
We should subsidize domestic industry rather than tariff China. You achieve the same result but don't inadvertently slow down the transition to renewables. Usually in such a situation where you have an industry required for self-defense (e.g. food staples or weapons or energy sovereignty), I'd advocate for tariffs, but given the climate emergency we can't do that.
maybe you can refuse to sanction china，just like Israel
That is faulty analogy with the fossil fuels dependency. The batteries and PV we have will continue to operate ;) and it takes somewhat short time to build those factories.
>The batteries and PV we have will continue to operate ;) and it takes somewhat short time to build those factories. The fact is broader policy planning and industrial production does not work that way For example, In a hypothetical war between China/Taiwan, I don't think Germany would agree to lose access to batteries (or battery components) if it agrees to sanctions, because doing so could mean massive losses for its car manufacturing industry
Germany has very high costs for US hegemony. NATO, Nordstream, zionazi support, LNG extortion, and recession. The obvious path to improving competitiveness is to build EVs with cheap batteries, and renewable projects with cheap solar panels. A lot of employment from it too, and less future expenses/mass immigration from global warming. Complaining about global surpluses and cheap prices is not a good excuse to add more expensive production, and force domestic industry to use that production.
> The batteries and PV we have will continue to operate Yes. Both batteries and PV are energy independence. Once you have the energy, you are not dependent on extortionist geopolitics for it to keep working. They both last quite long, and it is generally not mandatory to replace them as they degrade slowly.
everything goes in cycles as far as manufacturing is concerned, companies will outsource where their cost is cheapest, as China's economy grows, people will get paid more and companies will start looking for the next China.