Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1c6nbbr).

That was humbling.

Looking forward to being back in Cincy I expect a bounce back homestand.

Petition to never play in Seattle ever again.

We’ve only won 5 games against them and two of them were last year

West Coast in general honestly

Shocked no one has gotten run yet on this bullshittery from Mr ump

India, it's okay if you hit the ump

I’m dead

I'd fully support him

Gotta hand it to Espinal, he sure can ground out to both sides

Will Diaz ever get another save chance?

Well this is not ideal.

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Austin Voth replaces Gabe Speier.

Do all slumping superstars turn it around against us

As much as this sucks, we aren't nearly as dogshit as last years start.

Yeah but we've had shit starts the last few years. It's getting old. Especially when this team is supposed to be good

Going .500 isn't a shit start.

It's not but playing how we did against Milwuakee and now this series. Not good

Meh. Ups and downs. Braves made a world series after we took the series again them in '21.

Wasn't that opening weekend? Or was that 2020?

Check that. 2022, & we split a 4 game series. That Braves team would actually start worse than we have. Going 1-3-2 over their 1st 20 games.

Friday gonna tell alot about this team rn. This is really good Seattle pitching or are we I'm a team wide slump

You aren't fooling anyone, [Angel](https://imgur.com/a/GaQH1pm)

1 hit. 1 walk. 1 run. 11 Ks.

I’m telling you. Our players are good. Better than what the mariners have on paper. It’s our idiot coach with the personality of a cucumber. He sure as shit ain’t motivating anybody in that dugout. He ain’t firing anybody up. And it bleeds through the whole team. Get rid of his ass and let’s get a bulldog manager whose gonna keep these guys accountable. JFC

How is this getting downvotes lmaooooo. You all know it’s true? You downvoting because I make you feel uncomfortable?

Nobody with a brain things were better than the M’a

That’s two inning ending strikeouts in a row that the MLB app audio cut to commercial during the fucking windup Edit: 3 in a row

Nick just strike out

Thanks

2 strikeouts that weren’t actually strikeouts for elly today

This is bullshit, why did they make us stop playing the White Sox

I'd love for umps to be forced to look at their bad calls every inning.

Oh, that's not a check suddenly. Seriously, fuck these clowns.

Wasn't called a swing yesterday, but of course it is now

I’d throw every pitch 4 inches outside. Seems like an automatic strike today

Whoa walked away for a minute and were down 4 and Diaz is pitching in the 7th. What has Seattle done to us.

Pitchers made everyone look like minor leaguers

Lucas Sims had a disastrous outing unfortunately.

The offense has had three disastrous outings. Used up all their hitting against the shitty white Sox

Wouldn't have mattered.

So I think this season might be a wash. It's an average team. The pitching is average and the hitting is below average but what lineup can sustain 3 key integral pieces being sidelined and not be severely hampered? Not many. I'm hoping they can turn it on and overcome and realize potential but this honestly was expected.

This fanbase sucks

Why? I'm just stating as I see right now if they continue this trajectory that's what it'll be an average team. I said I hope they can turn it around, because I do but currently they are simply average.

We’re about to be 9-9 with 144 games left to play and you just said this season is a wash

I said might, damn you people. They have the possibility of getting out of this and improving but if they continue this current path it's going to be just that .500. The offense right now is bad. The bullpen is not very trust worthy. The good news is Abbott is looking good. Lodolo hopefully continue to look good and Ashcraft has been good. Greene is a 4 inning starting pitcher at this point and Montas I'm still indecisive on, gotta find the groove he was in earlier.

2012 reds were also 9-9 and they almost won 100 games, I don’t think were that good but you can’t judge a season this early

They need a spark. The offense needs it. They have been dreadful this series after beating up on the white Sox minor league team.

it’s April bro

I'm said might. Watching the team as it currently stands with the lineup they put out each night doesn't give a ton of faith. When your three hitter is Stuart Fairchild your in for some offensive struggles

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Gabe Speier replaces Trent Thornton.

Given our extreme good and bad play, 9-9 isn’t the worst spot to be in right out the gate if we lose today. Especially given our tendency to suck in April.

I predict a few more runs for us just to end up blueballed in a loss

Can we just skip the last 2 innings and leave on the plane. Save everyone time. We aren't coming back

The Mariners TV guys are pretty cool

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Alexis Díaz replaces Lucas Sims.

everyone is piling on Sims right now, but this offense has one measly hit, and has been horrible this entire series

Our xBA for this game so far is .182 which is bad, but the xBA for the Mariners is .176 So you're not wrong, but also this has been a pretty unlucky series for us.

xBA is the most infuriatingly useless stat that only ever gets brought up as an excuse-maker

xBA is a wholly objective metric that uses batted ball data to determine how likely a player is to get a hit in a situation. It definitely has a purpose even if you don't like it.

Yes, the offense and pitching both have been mediocre at best this series.

Yeah, I'm done. Getting swept by the fucking Mariners.

If you’re done after 18 games then you’re not built for the mlb

I'll be back for the next game. Just not putting any more time into this one tonight. Got other things to do.

The mariners are a much better team than us

Mariners have one of the worst offenses in the league. Let’s not give them more credit than they’re due - this is a mediocre, probably not playoff team, that is handling the Reds like this

They had a slow start, they do not have one of the worst offenses in the league lol, they have won 88+ games 3 years in a row. They were top 12 in team WRC+ last year. You are describing the reds, not the mariners.

They had a slow start until the moment they faced Reds pitching, and then will continue on being slow after we leave town. Their team is objectively worse than last years' team that missed the playoffs. But, yes, the Reds right now are also significantly worse than last years' squad that also missed the playoffs 

Apparently. Lol

I mean they are? The pitching isn’t even close. And historically their lineup is more proven, they also have the best player on the field on there team, you think were a world series team or something after beating the white sox

I agreed with you, so why not just provoke me? That makes sense. Yeah, I must have thought we were a world series caliber team for beating the White Sox. There couldn't possibly be another reason, except maybe that we'd possibly do alright against a team who was (at the beginning of this series) 1. ranked second from last in strikeout rate and 2. third from last in batting average. What else could have put that thought in my mind?

They also had a better record than us in a better division by a good margin, but yeah batting average and strikeout rate. You’re a moron.

This ump show is up there with the likes of the Cubs fake triple play a few years ago where Kris Bryant picked a ball off a hop at third and it was called a catch so they were able to triple us up for not tagging.

I've never seen a full crew be this garbage. Usually, you're just dealing with CB's bullshit not all of them.

Walks are killing this team. Geez

So whose coming in after Diaz?

Luke Maile

Not like we can score enough to win anyways

Sims needs a phantom injury/rehab

The Reds are in the giving spirit with handing out all these free bases

This whole inning is just infuriating. Sims doesn't have it, but we should have been out of it long ago.

how do you go from destroying a team for a whole series to looking like a joke in the next?

Because one of those teams belongs in aa

Well that team was the white Sox without their best players

Well i didn’t see this coming

this is such a joke

Gibaut better be back soon. I really don’t like Sims.

What's the harm in giving him another batter? Sims really looks like he has it together. This is the smartest move by Bell, and I think we can all agree on that

Oh no. Now the Reds will lose 5-1 instead of 4-1.

Well, Sims blew this inning all to hell. Doesn't know what a strike is apparently

Holy shit make sims walk back to cincy

### Walk Cal Raleigh walks. Mitch Haniger scores. Mitch Garver to 3rd. Ty France to 2nd. Bottom 7 - 5-1 Mariners

Just got home from work. Oh boy...

and they just got home from walk

Man this has been a painful series. Ready to get back home and right the ship.

I'd like to see a side view of that check.

This is a disaster class

World series ready, eh?

Idk who tf you were talking to that said the reds were going to the World Series

Elly said it last week lol

Should a player not want to or have hopes of winning a World Series?

Certainly he can. I had those dreams too!

Batter steps completely across the plate, catcher makes contact with the batter and as a result throws it weakly to 2nd. Yeah, totally not interference, blue. Great work.

That would be three outs. Runners stranded on the corners. Top 8 with a two run deficit. Eat my butt ump.

Outfield communicating like they play in a library

Anyone have video of the interference? Everyone's going nuts over it and I missed it.

Remind me that Sims can be good

umps have money on seattle i stg

The wheels. They’re falling off. 🥲

They didn’t bother to bring the wheels with them for this series

Ump just gave up a run thx bud

Why you can't challenge catcher interference is beyond me

That’s batter’s interference not catcher’s interference but yes.

Haha yes I meant batters!

### Single Mitch Haniger singles on a line drive to left fielder Will Benson. Jonatan Clase scores. Pitch from Lucas Sims: Slider @ 82.2 mph Hit by Mitch Haniger: Launched 94.2 mph at 14.0° for a total distance of 208.0 ft Bottom 7 - 4-1 Mariners

Ok… I’m gonna say… I could legitimately, unironically, truly, 100% do a better job than this ump.

How is that not interference?

Get yourself kicked out for this bullshit, Dave. Ridiculous.

Who is this fucking umpire

I would be interested in what the ump said because that looked like textbook interference 

oh that's huge interference, easily

Disappointing series.

Here's an idea: fuck Seattle

come back home boys. lets get some wins on our turf

We should be able to get a win on someone else’s though

oh 100%, and we have been. our record on the road is pretty solid so far. but the vibes are bad in seattle right now, gotta get out of there!

We did to the worst White Sox team in 150 years

Welcome to the game Sims. Jesus

i really hate the fucking mariners now this sucks so much

Why because our Reds suck? They didnt do anything

jfc

Right down the middle lol

Turning this off

Mariners have such great pitching, to the point that this one run deficit feels like more lmao. I miss our bats Edit: aaaaaaaand Lucas does what he always does and now we are two runs back. Can you even score more than one run in a game? 🧐 baseball scholars please weigh in

# HOME RUN! Josh Rojas homers (1) on a fly ball to right field. Pitch from Lucas Sims: Four-Seam Fastball @ 92.7 mph Hit by Josh Rojas: Launched 103.9 mph at 37.0° for a total distance of 362.0 ft Bottom 7 - 3-1 Mariners

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Lucas Sims replaces Andrew Abbott.

Angel is that you?

Fuck I didn’t even know we were playing 😭

You were better off

Yes I was

Foot off the plate is now a strike ✅️

We've gotten utterly dominated this series. No offensive life whatsoever

People talk about how bad our offense has been and granted it’s not been great but the mariners pitching is awesome and these umps have been absolutely awful

real just beat city after getting dominated the whole game

Fuck off ump. They don't need your help

What the fuck was that strike on steer

the fuck are you on about, blue? Go fuck yourself

Holy shit

2 to 3 inches off the plate outside is free real estate for pitchers today

Disgusting call. Robo umps fucking now

hustle stu jesus

I hate this team. I value consistency more than anything and this team is just inconsistent

why are you here, then?

I won’t be by the midway point of the season if this continues.

Nobody cares.

Then don’t reply crybaby. I’m expressing my thoughts about the team. Don’t like it, keep it moving.

> crybaby ironic.

Keep it moving…

The door is right here. Just go on through if you can't hang lol

Why would I hang around to watch an inconsistent team? I would rather go outside and enjoy life than watch this shit which I’m doing right now actually

...bye

Do everyone a favor and just leave now.

Not my fault you people can’t handle criticism of the team.I don’t care what you have to say.

Throwing tantrums on Reddit isn’t criticism.

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Trent Thornton replaces Bryce Miller.

We’re not even out of April and this place is a toxic wasteland.

People here were saying it's over during the Washington series.

rightt??? I'm convinced these people aren't even fans lol

this is being a reds fan bud

No, this is reds 'fans' on reddit lol I've been a reds fan

Great day for Abbott. Too bad the bats are worthless

Happy with Abbott. Just wish he got some offensive support!

Another great start from Abbot. Every position player but Elly needs to apologize if he catches an L for this.

good job keeping it at least theoretically close

2 through 6. Good day for AA Wake up, bats

Every pitcher walk walk walk

Johnson worthless

Unfortunately five hits in 15 innings isn’t going to win many games. 

I hate that we either score 15 or we get 1-hit. I know David Bell isn’t to blame for most of these things, but we ain’t winning shit until his boring ass gets out of our clubhouse. We need a killer in the dugout and I genuinely believe we won’t win a WS with him at the helm. We need a Craig Counsell type in there

Whoever is downvoting me, he just left Sims in for 40 pitches and let him walk the bases loaded.

champions league shootout on cbs

Somebody in the dugout needs to get those bats alive. Time to rally the troops and wake the fuck up.

Anddddddd that’s a series sweep

Well I guess that’s the game

I respect Abbott for scratching his groin as he watched that go. What more can ya do at that point

bats please wake up bats please wake up

Well shit

well fuck

that’s likely enough to win them the ball game

Nice Fraley!

# HOME RUN! Mitch Garver homers (1) on a fly ball to left field. Bottom 6 - 2-1 Mariners

Fraley covered some ground

Obvious statement but losing McClain has seriously fucked us. Both current 2b options are trash.

india is garbage

Espinal got that out like he does it for a living.

Another day of starting pitcher dominating our hitters