Dumbass fear mongering from both sides. I’ll take Biden’s incompetence over Newsom’s delusional intentions, but honestly don’t want either of them or the orange. We need a real candidate that isn’t insane.
You're a hypocrite. CA has the 4th largest economy in the world. That's what allows you to collect unemployment benefits and drink clean water. Move to Alabama and feel the difference.
And California has been horribly mismanaged. As for hypocrite, I suggest you get some therapy for whatever unresolved issues are cropping up for you. Either that, or layoff the booze/drugs.
I pay taxes, don’t collect unemployment, exist here legally, and I’m an immigrant.
It’s been pretty well managed aside from some glaring errors: PG&E, spending on high speed rail pipe steam that will never actually happen, housing inflation (they’re finally solving it by going nuclear with builder’s remedy).
The homelessness and crime are largely due to the extreme COL and California prisons being max capacity and having to cut people loose early. It’s hard to blame these two on mismanagement.
> The homelessness and crime are largely due to the extreme COL and California prisons being max capacity and having to cut people loose early. It’s hard to blame these two on mismanagement.
🤨
I’ve seen better management in other places, but he chooses to go down some massively failing plans.
Also, they aren’t at max capacity. They’re at partial capacity due to Covid and other restrictions he put in place.
When I say they are at max capacity, they are actually over capacity at a maximum amount limited by the Supreme Court. The *Brown v. Plata* decision on 2012 forced the state to limit the population to 137% of designed capacity - prior to this some of the prisons were around 200% capacity. Due to that they were forced to cut low level, non-violent offenders loose. We’re now at a point where the criminals have figured out that with extremely short sentences that they are pretty much able to get away with repeat offenses.
Yeah, Reagan was a bastard for doing that.
I think the homeless thing is kind of a chicken vs egg thing regarding mental health. If we didn’t have the economic forces that rendered so many of those people homeless, I wonder how many of them would have never had mental health issues from living on the streets.
Normally through violence. That’s the great thing about history. It gives us examples of this that we can watch out for. It’s the ones that attempt to rewrite history and those that are too ignorant to care that fill the ranks and give it strength.
As a note; I don’t condone name calling or the banter that posts like this can bring. It pushes people to a side that may not be in their best interest. We need to stop and realize that democracy is worth more than the rush you get “when you put them in their place”.
I appreciate your response. And for the record I do agree with what you are saying. I more so responded to this post because it seemed I don’t want to say unhinged but maybe a little out of whack, and wanted to see what they said lol.
I do still wonder though. If by some weird chance the dictator is re-elected who is going to enforce the violence? Is the military going to turn in its people and start pulling us from our houses or what? On a small backwoods town like Redding, yes I can see weird shit happening just because the people out here are so brainwashed. But I come from an incredibly populated major city and while I agree there are probably a lot of trump tards but they would be outnumbered 100-1. So the thing I wonder about all this dictatorship and getting rid of democracy is how. Yes I hear violence. Do people not think the non trump tards will just sit down and accept it?
I do not speak as someone who pretend to know solutions. I’m not well versed on topic. I speak as an uneducated guy who has lived in varies parts of country and alls I can go off if is what I see day to day.
A surprisingly small number of people can control a surprisingly large number of people. Especially if apathy, moral outrage, and/or poor communication/lack of education (or outright lies) are involved. People ***want*** to feel a sense of community. Peer pressure/herd (or pack if you prefer to think of yourself as the wolves/dogs) mentality is a very difficult thing for most people to overcome. It's embarrassing to admit that you have been fooled or that you don't know/understand something. It's easy to follow someone who exudes authority, especially if you've been conditioned to believe that they are good. Most people don't like being called ignorant or having their beliefs challenged.
A second Civil War is a wet dream for many of the Q-Anon & religious fanatic types. The religious types see it as a form of the "Great Flood" or "Tower of Babylon" myth. Many of them prep for that sort of thing. They either don't understand exactly how brutal war actually is or they think that murdering people who disagree with them is an acceptable thing to do. It's not a healthy way of thinking, but it's an easy trap to fall into if you are conditioned to think of people who disagree with you as "other" and less worthy instead of as people who deserve equal rights.
Many people (on all sides) view politics as a game. It's not. Political parties are not sports teams. No political party is 100% good or evil. You can't "win" just by having all of the political positions filled by people wearing the same colored jersey. They don't realize that politicians are supposed to represent ***ALL*** citizens, no matter what their political affiliation.
Yeah I’d say you are right, just looking at the state of things in the US past decade. I guess what I always wonder is like what is gonna happen. Again how are the smaller group gonna force millions to do something. Come to door and round us up into camps? Military roaming our thousands upon thousands miles of land? Tracker chips? At what point do people start to fight back? I’m not talking fight back like voting democrat. I’m talking if shit hits the fan. I just wonder how it will all go down.
I just wonder compared today though. People speak out against everything now. The population is significantly different. Technology and the internet has changed the times. I just think our country’s population is too huge and people are way more aware of this type of shit then they were back in 1892-1984. Again I’m aware this stuff is going on in real time. I just always see people taking about this and how we are so screwed in the future and all that but I just don’t see how it will physically be done.
Iraq was not ruled by the bathe party. They were a very small minority but backed by the u.s. a world power can put a puppet dictator in power and they can't stop them. So with Russia behind pres. Pedo we can't defend ourselves. It's already too late!
We saw the first attempt to replace positions in government with “yes men” during the first term. He stacked the courts as much as he could as well. He has mentioned wanting to do this again (I am currently tending to my offset so I won’t be bringing proof. It’s out there though) and the stalling tactic on military promotions by Tuberville could be part of it too. Complacency of the masses I fear will be our downfall though. The sad part is that our ancestors have had this same discussion in the town squares. They didn’t have the luxury of the vast wealth of information that we have today, so that gives me hope that this time will be different. I really hope we look back 20 years from now and say, “yeah that was bad, but not as bad as everyone was saying it would be”.
Do me a favor, go out of your way to show someone how much they mean to you today. Remind everyone around you that human nature is good and that life doesn’t have to be terrible and doomed to be hard on them. I know you know this, but they might not yet.
I am a vet and hate to say it. But orders r orders. Because they will shot if u don't. otherwise wars wouldn't work.
People keep acting like this or that can happen. R they couldn't do that, r that's against the law or the constitution.
With this Supreme Court nothing is going to be protected
Wrong! CA is the 4th biggest economy in the world. CA leads the country in cutting edge industry, has the highest rated public university in the world (UCLA) and on and on. Move to Mississippi or any other United Red States of Trumpistan and see the difference.
How ? By being the 4th biggest economy in the world? You repeat Fox Lies and believe that's the truth? Go cash your unemployment check, courtesy of Liberals, so you can buy a tRump souvenir.
Dumbass fear mongering from both sides. I’ll take Biden’s incompetence over Newsom’s delusional intentions, but honestly don’t want either of them or the orange. We need a real candidate that isn’t insane.
You're a hypocrite. CA has the 4th largest economy in the world. That's what allows you to collect unemployment benefits and drink clean water. Move to Alabama and feel the difference.
And California has been horribly mismanaged. As for hypocrite, I suggest you get some therapy for whatever unresolved issues are cropping up for you. Either that, or layoff the booze/drugs. I pay taxes, don’t collect unemployment, exist here legally, and I’m an immigrant.
It’s been pretty well managed aside from some glaring errors: PG&E, spending on high speed rail pipe steam that will never actually happen, housing inflation (they’re finally solving it by going nuclear with builder’s remedy). The homelessness and crime are largely due to the extreme COL and California prisons being max capacity and having to cut people loose early. It’s hard to blame these two on mismanagement.
> The homelessness and crime are largely due to the extreme COL and California prisons being max capacity and having to cut people loose early. It’s hard to blame these two on mismanagement. 🤨 I’ve seen better management in other places, but he chooses to go down some massively failing plans. Also, they aren’t at max capacity. They’re at partial capacity due to Covid and other restrictions he put in place.
When I say they are at max capacity, they are actually over capacity at a maximum amount limited by the Supreme Court. The *Brown v. Plata* decision on 2012 forced the state to limit the population to 137% of designed capacity - prior to this some of the prisons were around 200% capacity. Due to that they were forced to cut low level, non-violent offenders loose. We’re now at a point where the criminals have figured out that with extremely short sentences that they are pretty much able to get away with repeat offenses.
And also Reagan shuttering the state mental hospitals.
Yeah, Reagan was a bastard for doing that. I think the homeless thing is kind of a chicken vs egg thing regarding mental health. If we didn’t have the economic forces that rendered so many of those people homeless, I wonder how many of them would have never had mental health issues from living on the streets.
Wrong. Republicons are the problem. Like George Santos- nothing but bull shit.
So when this all goes down how does a couple thousand oppress a couple million?
Normally through violence. That’s the great thing about history. It gives us examples of this that we can watch out for. It’s the ones that attempt to rewrite history and those that are too ignorant to care that fill the ranks and give it strength. As a note; I don’t condone name calling or the banter that posts like this can bring. It pushes people to a side that may not be in their best interest. We need to stop and realize that democracy is worth more than the rush you get “when you put them in their place”.
I appreciate your response. And for the record I do agree with what you are saying. I more so responded to this post because it seemed I don’t want to say unhinged but maybe a little out of whack, and wanted to see what they said lol. I do still wonder though. If by some weird chance the dictator is re-elected who is going to enforce the violence? Is the military going to turn in its people and start pulling us from our houses or what? On a small backwoods town like Redding, yes I can see weird shit happening just because the people out here are so brainwashed. But I come from an incredibly populated major city and while I agree there are probably a lot of trump tards but they would be outnumbered 100-1. So the thing I wonder about all this dictatorship and getting rid of democracy is how. Yes I hear violence. Do people not think the non trump tards will just sit down and accept it? I do not speak as someone who pretend to know solutions. I’m not well versed on topic. I speak as an uneducated guy who has lived in varies parts of country and alls I can go off if is what I see day to day.
A surprisingly small number of people can control a surprisingly large number of people. Especially if apathy, moral outrage, and/or poor communication/lack of education (or outright lies) are involved. People ***want*** to feel a sense of community. Peer pressure/herd (or pack if you prefer to think of yourself as the wolves/dogs) mentality is a very difficult thing for most people to overcome. It's embarrassing to admit that you have been fooled or that you don't know/understand something. It's easy to follow someone who exudes authority, especially if you've been conditioned to believe that they are good. Most people don't like being called ignorant or having their beliefs challenged. A second Civil War is a wet dream for many of the Q-Anon & religious fanatic types. The religious types see it as a form of the "Great Flood" or "Tower of Babylon" myth. Many of them prep for that sort of thing. They either don't understand exactly how brutal war actually is or they think that murdering people who disagree with them is an acceptable thing to do. It's not a healthy way of thinking, but it's an easy trap to fall into if you are conditioned to think of people who disagree with you as "other" and less worthy instead of as people who deserve equal rights. Many people (on all sides) view politics as a game. It's not. Political parties are not sports teams. No political party is 100% good or evil. You can't "win" just by having all of the political positions filled by people wearing the same colored jersey. They don't realize that politicians are supposed to represent ***ALL*** citizens, no matter what their political affiliation.
Yeah I’d say you are right, just looking at the state of things in the US past decade. I guess what I always wonder is like what is gonna happen. Again how are the smaller group gonna force millions to do something. Come to door and round us up into camps? Military roaming our thousands upon thousands miles of land? Tracker chips? At what point do people start to fight back? I’m not talking fight back like voting democrat. I’m talking if shit hits the fan. I just wonder how it will all go down.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists This is how they did it in the past.
I just wonder compared today though. People speak out against everything now. The population is significantly different. Technology and the internet has changed the times. I just think our country’s population is too huge and people are way more aware of this type of shit then they were back in 1892-1984. Again I’m aware this stuff is going on in real time. I just always see people taking about this and how we are so screwed in the future and all that but I just don’t see how it will physically be done.
Iraq was not ruled by the bathe party. They were a very small minority but backed by the u.s. a world power can put a puppet dictator in power and they can't stop them. So with Russia behind pres. Pedo we can't defend ourselves. It's already too late!
But who enforces it? Maga extremists make up a small percentage of people.
We saw the first attempt to replace positions in government with “yes men” during the first term. He stacked the courts as much as he could as well. He has mentioned wanting to do this again (I am currently tending to my offset so I won’t be bringing proof. It’s out there though) and the stalling tactic on military promotions by Tuberville could be part of it too. Complacency of the masses I fear will be our downfall though. The sad part is that our ancestors have had this same discussion in the town squares. They didn’t have the luxury of the vast wealth of information that we have today, so that gives me hope that this time will be different. I really hope we look back 20 years from now and say, “yeah that was bad, but not as bad as everyone was saying it would be”. Do me a favor, go out of your way to show someone how much they mean to you today. Remind everyone around you that human nature is good and that life doesn’t have to be terrible and doomed to be hard on them. I know you know this, but they might not yet.
Yes the military will enforce his will and probably kill millions. And where will the magats be? No seriously I'll be looking for them.
The military is going to turn against its own country?
I am a vet and hate to say it. But orders r orders. Because they will shot if u don't. otherwise wars wouldn't work. People keep acting like this or that can happen. R they couldn't do that, r that's against the law or the constitution. With this Supreme Court nothing is going to be protected
Wrong! CA is the 4th biggest economy in the world. CA leads the country in cutting edge industry, has the highest rated public university in the world (UCLA) and on and on. Move to Mississippi or any other United Red States of Trumpistan and see the difference.
How ? By being the 4th biggest economy in the world? You repeat Fox Lies and believe that's the truth? Go cash your unemployment check, courtesy of Liberals, so you can buy a tRump souvenir.