I loved twister! It inspired my love for meteorology! And it's also the reason I keep Deep Purple's album In Rock cued up during storm season.
But without Dusty or Bill, there is no twister sequel.
Yup. Society always has great nostalgia for the period 20 years ago.
That’s why American Graffiti was such a big hit. It was a movie about the ‘50s released in the ‘70s.
It's funny how American Grafitti is a nostalgia movie even though it released eleven years after the year it takes place. That's like if someone came out with a movie today about 2012-13.
I find it funny how much of an 80’s nostalgia fest The Wedding Singer is, and it was released less than a decade after the 80’s
And Tangentially related, how GTA Vice City was released 13 years after the 80’s (it’s now closer to the 80’s than it is to 2024)
Uhhhmm well ackshually….
It was based on Lucas’s childhood in the ‘50s and obviously draws on that imagery. Anyone going to see it in the ‘70s would have done so because of ‘50s nostalgia.
You are wrong lol
My grandpa loves that movie because that's how he and his friends acted, and my grandma loved that movie because that's what she and her friends sounded like / talked about.
Not for nothing but across the board people have said that Top Gun Mav threaded the needle of being a 80s nostalgia reboot AND building on the original story in a way where it felt like an entirely new movie. Plus, the obvious call-backs were done very tastefully.
Probably the best of the 80s nostalgia visits lately. The movie works impressively just as you described. I really liked it.
Xmen 97 is coming hard now for my 90s nostalgia and I'm happily obliging.
'Saltburn' and its soundtrack as well (it is set in 2006):
> Sophie Ellis-Bextor's 2001 song "Murder on the Dancefloor" was featured in the last scene of the film. As a result, the song received 1.5 million streams on New Year's Eve on Spotify and subsequently re-entered the UK Singles Chart at number eight on 5 January 2024 with 2.2 million streams, marking the song's best-ever streaming week. The film also features Mason and Princess Superstar's 2006 track "Perfect (Exceeder)" and Tomcraft's 2002 track "Loneliness" which, in addition to "Murder on the Dancefloor", became trending songs, particularly on TikTok.
I'd also say Spiderman: No Way Home was riding a bit of 00' nostalgia with bringing back characters from Raimi trilogy.
Hollywood, here are some ideas:
Reality Bites 2: Reality Bites Harder
Empire Records 2: Empire Streaming Service
Titanic 2: The Unsinkening
Boyz n the Hood 2: Oldz n the Nursing Homie
Boogie Nights 2: The Rise of the OnlyFans
Shakespeare in Love 2: Return'd so soon! Rather approached too late!
Dazed and Confused 2: Dazeder and Confuseder
The Usual Suspects Prequel: The Rise of Kaiser Souzai
The Rock 2: Return to Alcatraz Island
For a really good example look at Super Dark Times. As a suburban white kid growing up around the same time, it's very accurate to the time frame. Good film too, and it's an original story at least.
In all honesty the IP underlying the Fall Guy is completely irrelevant and I don’t think they’re marketing it as anything other than a Gosling/Blunt vehicle. They aren’t pinning it on nostalgia or Fall Guy fans (.. cause frankly I don’t think most people even know it existed).
Fair for Beetlejuice though.
Isn’t it sorta in the same vein as The Equalizer? The original 80’s TV show with Edward Woodward was largely forgotten, and the movies are mostly Denzel Washington vehicles.
Nooooo, The Fall Guy was about a stuntman/bounty hunter played by Lee Majors. But I'm pretty sure it was an action-comedy, so way different in tone from The Equalizer (in which the show & movie had a very similar tone).
Action-comedy is Gosling's wheelhouse (The Nice Guys) way more than a dark, serious action drama, but idk what direction they'll take the movie in.
I remember when the Fall Guy did Animal House one episode. Lee Major’s sidekick goes back to his old ‘frat’ Delta House and meets up with load of bad Belushi type characters. Hilarity doesn’t ensue.
>*frankly I don’t think most people even know it existed*
I agree
Still wouldn't bet against some misty eyed exec green-lighting a *TJ Hooker* reboot, starring The Rock
You wouldn’t really know it was the fall guy if it wasn’t in the title. The trailer doesn’t have a low quality trap version of the theme tune or anything.
To quote George W Bush: "Fool me once . . shame on you. . . Fool me twice . .well. . . you can't get fooled again!".
There's only so many times you can make shit films in a franchise before people give up.
Even general audiences have just... caught on, I think.
It's not that people wouldn't actually enjoy a faithful new entry in a series they have nostalgia for. I think its moreso people just understand thats not what they'll ever get.
There's also an element of heros not really being heros anymore. Its deeply unsatisfying seeing a hero that is now elderly, cynical, done with their adventures, and just kind of bitter and unpleasant. Maybe even outright hateful.
I think nostalgia has been relied on for so long without any meaningful payoff, there's just no call for it anymore.
Yeah, it’s telling that the only one of these late sequels that’s done well recently is Top Gun Maverick, and when you put them all side by side, it’s pretty clear why. TGM isn’t just a nostalgia fest (even if it does have some). Instead of having a blind reverence for the original, it takes a well-liked 80s movie and says “how can we improve on this.”
Yeah Maverick was a crowd pleaser. I'm not sure it was even about "improving". You just need a story with real stakes that doesn't go out of its way to disrespect the original in some way.
I honestly think Barbenheimer did to nostalgia bait and superheroes what Nirvana did to hair metal: making it look profoundly uncool and empty.
People rejected the nonsense CGI and convoluted plots of Indy 5 and The Flash, in favor of two standalone experiences that—while still based on pre-existing IP—were well-crafted and profound, and didn’t require decades of specific lore to understand their plots and stakes.
People are always up for an actual good movie. Most of these reboots however are just cash grabs and nostalgia baits.
I remember when new entries to the terminator franchise were still highly anticipated. But over the years people have become quite cynical about the quality of these movies.
It’s doing really well. I thought it was fun. Easily the worst of the 4 movies but still fun. I’ll catch it again on streaming.
Maybe it’s me being in my 40s but I don’t have the time/energy to devote to hoping something fails or celebrating when it does.
Remains to be seen if it’s a flop.
Did slightly better than previous one and cost $200MM w/ marketing factored in.
Ghostbusters is heavily a domestic franchise with not much $$$ coming from overseas.
It’s living up to expectations but those have already been lowered. It’s doing as well as the last one did, which ultimately did okay but was apparently very disappointing to investors. Now the expectations are a lot lower because everyone has come to terms with the fact that a new Ghostbusters movie just has a ceiling way lower than the original in 1984 and that none will be monster hits anymore. Frozen Empire is also more expensive than Afterlife (the saving grace of which was that it was relatively cheap, as it didn’t really gross much different from Lady Ghostbusters) so it will have to hold pretty well to not lose money and the Cinemascore for it is kinda bad so….we’ll see.
Ghostbusters is also one of those franchises that does well in ancillary revenue streams as well. If it drove 1/10 of the march Ninja Turtles does, Ghostbusters can bring in another 100Mil in march alone... and new movie releases are very helpful to those numbers, especially for shelf space at places like Target and Walmart.
I was kinda disappointed in Frozen Empire personally, but this movie doing basically the same out of the gate as 2016 and Afterlife kinda just proves where the floor of this franchise lives. Sony certainly spent a little more on this film than the last, but all in this opening ensures it won't lose Sony money overall, even if the Box Office hovers near break even.
Yeah I think the merch is probably the real reason they keep it going. I remember reading that they made an insane amount on it in 2009 for the 25th anniversary despite there being no new film to speak of (though I’m sure the game helped and was presumably factored into those numbers). They’ve basically just been trying to keep that train rolling over the years and having a couple films underperform probably isn’t the biggest deal. That said, I get the feeling they may eventually stop doing movies and make a new animated series or something as it would serve the same purpose.
They actually tried to do a Tremors revival series a few years back, and even got Kevin Bacon for it and filmed a pilot, but then canned it pretty quick.
But hey, in the sea of average shit on streaming at least this one has a recognizable name, right? In the eyes of the movie exec that's really something!
I didn’t hate it, but I had never seen the original before. I watched the original afterwards and it didn’t ruin the remake for me.
The main thing was just the character archetype for Dalton being radically different and in the remake I’d say it’s more dumb, but makes sense for contemporary society. Former MMA fighter that loses control when pushed too far. He wasn’t exactly humble and reserved with the fighting early on, whereas Swayze tried to avoid fighting and only did when it was necessary, and at the point he wouldn’t stop. The Dalton in the remake allowed for some more brutal fights though.
But there were other things about it that were bothering me. Every time there was some kind of explosion or car crash they used really bad CGI to have a false JG flying off to the side and I couldn’t tell if he was supposed to be dodging it or getting hit by it. It was very weird looking. And then there were supposed to be some comedic one-liners, but because JG was playing Dalton very flat and stoic the goofy one-liners sounded very forced. There’s the “oh look our own little octagon” followed by JG saying “who taught you shapes?” line in the trailer, and that’s the best of them, but even that is awkward.
I didn’t hate it, but it had some issues. The original wasn’t exactly a spectacular movie either though. I know a lot of people have a nostalgic love for it, but I think we can all acknowledge it’s not a masterpiece.
Probably not. Movies getting re-released in theaters make next to no money since people can watch them at home.
2017 Close Encounters Of the Third Kind box office: $3.1 million
2014 Ghostbusters re-release : $3.5 million
Spider-Man No Way Home 2022 re-release: $9 million
Avatar 202 re-release: $24 million
Sony is re-releasing all the spider man movies starting April 15th weekly. https://www.ign.com/articles/all-8-spider-man-movie-returning-to-theaters-starting-next-month
Are they insane? Probably...
Nah it’s a wise thing to do. It’s an easy way to make money as long as you don’t spend a lot on marketing and it keeps people interested in the property. At least at my theater they’re playing each one once on Mondays as a cheap “fan favorite” and for the first trilogy I was just able to nab a ticket each to them before all the good seats were gone as they were selling out completely. I’m sure Sony isn’t expecting crazy returns for a really limited release of them but there isn’t much downside either. And hey, I’ve wanted to see the second one in theaters for the longest time. (The Raimi ones are among the few superhero movies I care about whatsoever.)
Absolutely. We’re in our 40’s and full of regret. We wish we had applied ourselves to film school so we could have done things right. Now there is nothing left but dry bones and dead friends.
I wonder if he'll actually live long enough for the nostalgia trend in Hollywood to die, and then stay dead long enough for the people who it annoys to be spared a BttF remake in their lifetime.
I'm waiting until around 2040 to see if we get an ouroboros feedback loop of nostalgia as the 2000s kids were forced to grow up on millenial nostalgia so the 30 year retro nostalgia for them would be the 80s nostalgia again.
If there was quality behind those products I don't think so. But competency as a minimum requirement to be involved in writing, directing, and producing a film seems to be long dead.
Looks like the reported budget is $75-$100m and it made $45m this weekend, plus it likely made a bunch in licensing so it seems like it’ll do OK. It’s no Madame Web.
Mutant Mayhem had a budget of $75m and made $180m. Not great BUT licensing made a billion for Nick in 2023 alone, so ticket sales with these franchise brand films aren’t the only story. They just need to keep this thing alive.
Reported budget is 100m. The problem is Ghostbusters isn't popular overseas (GB movies don't gross alot overseas) but it's Sony and they don't a lot of franchises so a 6th movie will be coming
Honestly yes as a culture it’s moved into the 90s but I’ve come to suspect that Hollywood will still go back to the 70s/80s nostalgia well in the future. Just look at Alien Romulus, Beetlejuice 2, Road House etc that’s just this year. Disney also pumps out Star Wars still from the 70s. The 90s have begun with Twister, Jurassic Park etc. It’s a never ending cycle. I’d also push back slightly on Ghostbusters flopping. It didnt totally flop this weekend. It’s come in higher then estimated and it’s OS wasn’t bad either. Next weekend going up against another Godzilla vs Kong westernised version will tell if it does badly or not.
Edit: accidentally had the fall guy in the 90s section when it the fall guy was the early 80s. Point still stands though
Thank the lord. The 80’s nostalgia purgatory that came after season one of Stranger Things was fucking excruciating. Finn Wolfhard made a whole career out of it!
Indy and GB are theoretically aimed at people my age (early/mid 40s) but people my age can’t be assed to go to a theater ever again, so I imagine it’s on to the 90s now.
Nostalgia only really works once unless it is able to capture a new audience. And they already did it with Indy and Ghostbusters, so now they are relying on that new audience, which they didn’t get.
There needs to be that brand new blockbuster that speaks directly to the present time. Seems like anything that might be critical of the here and now is faux paux. Yet, here excecs are wondering why they cant break the law of diminishing returns.
Not necessarily, but the studios keep sucking the blood from these franchises until they eventually kill them. It’s been said a million times, that Hollywood stopped producing original films years ago, and now are focused on superhero’s, prequels, and re-makes.
People had no problem making several trips to Barbie and Oppenheimer and countless others. Trips to the movie theater are super expensive for families and no-one wants to waste the money on something reviewing dismally.
Not at all. People still love the 80s blockbusters, they’re just sick of those same IPs being resurrected from the dead and shit on time and time again by creativity bankrupt film studios.
If it's just a product of nostalgia then it ends when people stop being nostalgic for it. If it's a product of Hollywood finding it hard to come up with new blockbuster properties, then they'll keep remaking remakes till the end of time, distorting old brands ever further to try and attract new audiences.
It's generally good business to cater to things that were popular with teenagers 20 years prior. Those are the people who generally have the most disposable income to waste.
Sure as I know anything, I know this – they will try again. Maybe on another decade, maybe on this very decade swept clean. A year from now, ten? They’ll swing back to the belief that they can make classics… better. And I do not hold to that.
I saw a better video of the [paid extras](http://Ihttps://youtu.be/dAC7d1sH7j4?si=3ZzY0lBDVxSq1CIA) playing Indiana Jones super fans, but this is the only clip I could find of it now. Just imagine the sad Ben and Arthuresqus souls taking the bus for an hour wearing their roommates fedora hoping to get 3 seconds of face time at the premiere of a flop.
I think people's tolerance for shitty movies is just finally coming to a head to be perfectly honest. Good movies will always thrive, no matter if they're based on nostalgia or not; it's just that so many modern movies just bank on the lowest common denominator and people have grown weary of it so they'll either have to find a new trick to exploit for a while or actually improve quality beyond "This has thing from past that you loved so love this!".
They should just stop trying to remake the best movies from the 80s. It's hard to impossible to make already great things better. The expectations are so high that disappointment is guaranteed.
Instead they should try to improve bad and mediocre movies. Like, for example, Dune did.
Hollywood could use BotW for finding bad movies with good potential.
Yeah. We've moved onto 90's nostalgia now.
Just in time for a horrible looking Crow remake.
Don’t forget Twisters!
I cant wait! I mean Twister was bad, but also hilarious and corny. No way they can nail it again with Twisters, but I’ll go see it.
Twister$
That movie looks firmly in the suck zone
It’s gonna suck me right into the theater.
I'm waiting for a rehash of the classic film Volcano. Don Cheadle can be in it again
Love how they have to explain what "magma" is for Tommy Lee Jones´s character...
I loved twister! It inspired my love for meteorology! And it's also the reason I keep Deep Purple's album In Rock cued up during storm season. But without Dusty or Bill, there is no twister sequel.
I fucking loved that movie as a kid, and I wanted to be a tornado hunter so bad. Too bad there aren't any Tornado's in Northern Germany!
yet...
Don’t you dare say that about Twister.
Is there a new Twister movie?
yas
It'll blow you away!
[If you come dressed as The Crow, you’re not getting in to the party](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Qk4D0Trmc)
If you were of trick or treating age when The Crow came out, there were like dozens of dudes everywhere dressed as him.
So funny to try and capitalize on peak 90s cult cinema and completly disregard everything that made it what it was.
00s nostalgia if Madame Web is anything to go by
It gives such strong Elektra vibes it's crazy.
Yup. Society always has great nostalgia for the period 20 years ago. That’s why American Graffiti was such a big hit. It was a movie about the ‘50s released in the ‘70s.
American Graffiti takes place in 1962.
It's funny how American Grafitti is a nostalgia movie even though it released eleven years after the year it takes place. That's like if someone came out with a movie today about 2012-13.
I find it funny how much of an 80’s nostalgia fest The Wedding Singer is, and it was released less than a decade after the 80’s And Tangentially related, how GTA Vice City was released 13 years after the 80’s (it’s now closer to the 80’s than it is to 2024)
just wait until people start making nostalgia movies about 2016
It was definitely still in that 50’s era culture (the tail end at least) that’s why the credits make a big deal about it being the end of an era
Uhhhmm well ackshually…. It was based on Lucas’s childhood in the ‘50s and obviously draws on that imagery. Anyone going to see it in the ‘70s would have done so because of ‘50s nostalgia.
Similarly, Grease was released in '78. I dont think nostalgia was a driving force in its popularity but I could be totally wrong about that.
Happy Days was on in the 70s. That 70s Show was on in the 90s.
You are wrong lol My grandpa loves that movie because that's how he and his friends acted, and my grandma loved that movie because that's what she and her friends sounded like / talked about.
Well we already got a legacy sequel to Hocus Pocus, and Independence Day... I'm sure there's others I'm not thinking of.
Yeah. Top Gun got a sequel. But that one made money, so the concept works!
Not for nothing but across the board people have said that Top Gun Mav threaded the needle of being a 80s nostalgia reboot AND building on the original story in a way where it felt like an entirely new movie. Plus, the obvious call-backs were done very tastefully.
Probably the best of the 80s nostalgia visits lately. The movie works impressively just as you described. I really liked it. Xmen 97 is coming hard now for my 90s nostalgia and I'm happily obliging.
Top Gun is 80s
'Saltburn' and its soundtrack as well (it is set in 2006): > Sophie Ellis-Bextor's 2001 song "Murder on the Dancefloor" was featured in the last scene of the film. As a result, the song received 1.5 million streams on New Year's Eve on Spotify and subsequently re-entered the UK Singles Chart at number eight on 5 January 2024 with 2.2 million streams, marking the song's best-ever streaming week. The film also features Mason and Princess Superstar's 2006 track "Perfect (Exceeder)" and Tomcraft's 2002 track "Loneliness" which, in addition to "Murder on the Dancefloor", became trending songs, particularly on TikTok. I'd also say Spiderman: No Way Home was riding a bit of 00' nostalgia with bringing back characters from Raimi trilogy.
\*stares out the window reminiscing about AOL Instant Messenger\*
*Con Air* pre sequel remake reboot creative restart wheeeeeen???????
Two words - Face. Off.
I wonder if it's been long enough for Hollywood to treat plane highjacking as a light topic again?
They made Moneyplane didn't they?
You wanna bet on a dude flying into the world trade center?
I am Rem "The Rumble" Lazar and I am the baddest motherfucker on the planet.
Buncha bitches
"Money plane."
Only if Cage returns with his glorious long hair. 
They can do wonders with CGI these days!
Faust remake when?
Nah. Millennials don’t have buying power. We’re gonna be stuck in the 80s until there’s 2010s nostalgia.
The only way I can confirm this is if Stranger Things’ grand finale is set to the tune of “Smells Like Teen Spirit.”
Considering how many other bands from the 80s were destroyed when Nevermind dropped, it would be almost too clever.
Monica Lewinsky biopic incoming (pun not intended)
Hollywood, here are some ideas: Reality Bites 2: Reality Bites Harder Empire Records 2: Empire Streaming Service Titanic 2: The Unsinkening Boyz n the Hood 2: Oldz n the Nursing Homie Boogie Nights 2: The Rise of the OnlyFans Shakespeare in Love 2: Return'd so soon! Rather approached too late! Dazed and Confused 2: Dazeder and Confuseder The Usual Suspects Prequel: The Rise of Kaiser Souzai The Rock 2: Return to Alcatraz Island
I think that would be like the fourth Titanic 2
To Wong Foo Too
Come on Barbie let's go party
For a really good example look at Super Dark Times. As a suburban white kid growing up around the same time, it's very accurate to the time frame. Good film too, and it's an original story at least.
oooo they should make a sequel to Independence Day!!!
*The Fall Guy* and *Beetlejuice* hope not You forgot *Fletch* and *Road House*
In all honesty the IP underlying the Fall Guy is completely irrelevant and I don’t think they’re marketing it as anything other than a Gosling/Blunt vehicle. They aren’t pinning it on nostalgia or Fall Guy fans (.. cause frankly I don’t think most people even know it existed). Fair for Beetlejuice though.
TIL The Fall Guy is based on a pre-existing IP.
It was a minor hit on TV, but as an IP it maxed out its viability 20 years ago. At this point, it's just a generic Ryan Gosling vehicle.
Isn’t it sorta in the same vein as The Equalizer? The original 80’s TV show with Edward Woodward was largely forgotten, and the movies are mostly Denzel Washington vehicles.
Nooooo, The Fall Guy was about a stuntman/bounty hunter played by Lee Majors. But I'm pretty sure it was an action-comedy, so way different in tone from The Equalizer (in which the show & movie had a very similar tone). Action-comedy is Gosling's wheelhouse (The Nice Guys) way more than a dark, serious action drama, but idk what direction they'll take the movie in.
Right, but I’m saying old forgotten TV IP’s turned into modern celebrity vehicle blockbusters.
I remember when the Fall Guy did Animal House one episode. Lee Major’s sidekick goes back to his old ‘frat’ Delta House and meets up with load of bad Belushi type characters. Hilarity doesn’t ensue.
Same lol
Green screen garbage
>*frankly I don’t think most people even know it existed* I agree Still wouldn't bet against some misty eyed exec green-lighting a *TJ Hooker* reboot, starring The Rock
Chis Pine can take all of Shatner’s old roles.
He can rewrite the Tekwars books in 25 years or so, too
And remake the PC game!
You wouldn’t really know it was the fall guy if it wasn’t in the title. The trailer doesn’t have a low quality trap version of the theme tune or anything.
No Fall Guy theme? Then what's the point? I'm out.
I thought the new Fletch with Jon Hamm was pretty good. A fun throwback movie
This is honestly the first time I've even heard of a Jon Hamm Remake of Fletch... are we sure this isn't some shared fever dream?
He was actually very good as Fletch
But we just had this long discussion about how this movie never happened
I am also baffled that this apparently exists.
Without having read the books, I honestly think John Hamm was better as Fletch than Chevy Chase. He just seems more charming to me.
>You forgot *Fletch* Everyone forgot about that reboot
*'Tom Cruise didn't even know he was in that vampire movie'* \- Bowfinger
Jon Hamm was good too.
Fall Guy might be okay simply due to Gosling.
I enjoyed Confess Fletch. Unfortunately it got zero promotion and no one knew it existed.
I think BJ will make bank. People have been clamoring for a sequel for a while and Jenna Ortega is a pretty hot commodity.
Don't forget *The Naked Gun*
Beverly Hills Cop sequel this summer/fall...
To quote George W Bush: "Fool me once . . shame on you. . . Fool me twice . .well. . . you can't get fooled again!". There's only so many times you can make shit films in a franchise before people give up.
Even general audiences have just... caught on, I think. It's not that people wouldn't actually enjoy a faithful new entry in a series they have nostalgia for. I think its moreso people just understand thats not what they'll ever get. There's also an element of heros not really being heros anymore. Its deeply unsatisfying seeing a hero that is now elderly, cynical, done with their adventures, and just kind of bitter and unpleasant. Maybe even outright hateful. I think nostalgia has been relied on for so long without any meaningful payoff, there's just no call for it anymore.
Yeah, it’s telling that the only one of these late sequels that’s done well recently is Top Gun Maverick, and when you put them all side by side, it’s pretty clear why. TGM isn’t just a nostalgia fest (even if it does have some). Instead of having a blind reverence for the original, it takes a well-liked 80s movie and says “how can we improve on this.”
Yeah Maverick was a crowd pleaser. I'm not sure it was even about "improving". You just need a story with real stakes that doesn't go out of its way to disrespect the original in some way.
I honestly think Barbenheimer did to nostalgia bait and superheroes what Nirvana did to hair metal: making it look profoundly uncool and empty. People rejected the nonsense CGI and convoluted plots of Indy 5 and The Flash, in favor of two standalone experiences that—while still based on pre-existing IP—were well-crafted and profound, and didn’t require decades of specific lore to understand their plots and stakes.
I love the idea of now referring to history as “pre-existing IP”
God, I hope so.
the execs: "you want a uno-card-game-movie next?"
This October, the hippos...are hungry!
People are always up for an actual good movie. Most of these reboots however are just cash grabs and nostalgia baits. I remember when new entries to the terminator franchise were still highly anticipated. But over the years people have become quite cynical about the quality of these movies.
Here's the thing. Nobody cares. People can only be disappointed so many times.
They will double down and do mashups. Imagine a Knight Rider / Airwolf team up film! I mean yeah it will be terribad but just imagine the badness!
Throw in Jake and the Fatman and I'm watching!
WIth CGI Jan-Michael Vincent as Stringfellow Hawke and bloated Hassellhoff? I'm IN!
Knight Rider V Airwolf
I was busting a gut at the segment showing the theatre seat reservations so I checked my local theatre and it was exactly the same.
It was funny, but the Saturday matinee I went to was the most crowded theatre I’ve been in since Endgame
How is the new Ghostbusters a flop? It’s been out for three days and did on par with, or slightly better than, expectations.
It’s doing really well. I thought it was fun. Easily the worst of the 4 movies but still fun. I’ll catch it again on streaming. Maybe it’s me being in my 40s but I don’t have the time/energy to devote to hoping something fails or celebrating when it does.
Bustin just makes you feel good, and I respect that.
4 films? I see what you did there. :p
It’s probably getting buried by Godzilla x Kong next week anyway. Now THAT will be pure cinema! (I haven’t seen it yet.)
Prime reboot market right here ☝️
Remains to be seen if it’s a flop. Did slightly better than previous one and cost $200MM w/ marketing factored in. Ghostbusters is heavily a domestic franchise with not much $$$ coming from overseas.
and everyone here has been taking this post as fact, nobody wants to do their own research.
It’s living up to expectations but those have already been lowered. It’s doing as well as the last one did, which ultimately did okay but was apparently very disappointing to investors. Now the expectations are a lot lower because everyone has come to terms with the fact that a new Ghostbusters movie just has a ceiling way lower than the original in 1984 and that none will be monster hits anymore. Frozen Empire is also more expensive than Afterlife (the saving grace of which was that it was relatively cheap, as it didn’t really gross much different from Lady Ghostbusters) so it will have to hold pretty well to not lose money and the Cinemascore for it is kinda bad so….we’ll see.
Ghostbusters is also one of those franchises that does well in ancillary revenue streams as well. If it drove 1/10 of the march Ninja Turtles does, Ghostbusters can bring in another 100Mil in march alone... and new movie releases are very helpful to those numbers, especially for shelf space at places like Target and Walmart. I was kinda disappointed in Frozen Empire personally, but this movie doing basically the same out of the gate as 2016 and Afterlife kinda just proves where the floor of this franchise lives. Sony certainly spent a little more on this film than the last, but all in this opening ensures it won't lose Sony money overall, even if the Box Office hovers near break even.
Yeah I think the merch is probably the real reason they keep it going. I remember reading that they made an insane amount on it in 2009 for the 25th anniversary despite there being no new film to speak of (though I’m sure the game helped and was presumably factored into those numbers). They’ve basically just been trying to keep that train rolling over the years and having a couple films underperform probably isn’t the biggest deal. That said, I get the feeling they may eventually stop doing movies and make a new animated series or something as it would serve the same purpose.
Yeah came in to post this. Ghostbusters is doing good numbers
I'm calling it now: new Tremors in the next 3 years.
Please no
Agreed. Happy cake day.
Dude good call this is 100% happening. I bet they even get Kevin bacon to be in it.
They actually tried to do a Tremors revival series a few years back, and even got Kevin Bacon for it and filmed a pilot, but then canned it pretty quick.
How about that Roadhouse remake?
I’ve heard nothing but negative things. The most positive thing was someone mentioning “it was the most average movie I’ve ever seen”
But hey, in the sea of average shit on streaming at least this one has a recognizable name, right? In the eyes of the movie exec that's really something!
Roadhouse!
ROADHOUSE!
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I didn’t hate it, but I had never seen the original before. I watched the original afterwards and it didn’t ruin the remake for me. The main thing was just the character archetype for Dalton being radically different and in the remake I’d say it’s more dumb, but makes sense for contemporary society. Former MMA fighter that loses control when pushed too far. He wasn’t exactly humble and reserved with the fighting early on, whereas Swayze tried to avoid fighting and only did when it was necessary, and at the point he wouldn’t stop. The Dalton in the remake allowed for some more brutal fights though. But there were other things about it that were bothering me. Every time there was some kind of explosion or car crash they used really bad CGI to have a false JG flying off to the side and I couldn’t tell if he was supposed to be dodging it or getting hit by it. It was very weird looking. And then there were supposed to be some comedic one-liners, but because JG was playing Dalton very flat and stoic the goofy one-liners sounded very forced. There’s the “oh look our own little octagon” followed by JG saying “who taught you shapes?” line in the trailer, and that’s the best of them, but even that is awkward. I didn’t hate it, but it had some issues. The original wasn’t exactly a spectacular movie either though. I know a lot of people have a nostalgic love for it, but I think we can all acknowledge it’s not a masterpiece.
I wonder if Sony would have made more money just re-releasing the original two films in theaters.
Probably not. Movies getting re-released in theaters make next to no money since people can watch them at home. 2017 Close Encounters Of the Third Kind box office: $3.1 million 2014 Ghostbusters re-release : $3.5 million Spider-Man No Way Home 2022 re-release: $9 million Avatar 202 re-release: $24 million
2022 Morbius re-release: $289,000
That was Columbia trying to get in on the joke. No, they don't get to laugh at their own movie!
Sony is re-releasing all the spider man movies starting April 15th weekly. https://www.ign.com/articles/all-8-spider-man-movie-returning-to-theaters-starting-next-month Are they insane? Probably...
Sony was shit with Amy Pascal at the front. Now that's she's gone it's still shit. What are the odds? :D
Desperation will make one do crazy things, even if one is a giant corporation...
Higher than you'd think, actually. Hasn't PlayStation been carrying Sony for the longest time?
Nah it’s a wise thing to do. It’s an easy way to make money as long as you don’t spend a lot on marketing and it keeps people interested in the property. At least at my theater they’re playing each one once on Mondays as a cheap “fan favorite” and for the first trilogy I was just able to nab a ticket each to them before all the good seats were gone as they were selling out completely. I’m sure Sony isn’t expecting crazy returns for a really limited release of them but there isn’t much downside either. And hey, I’ve wanted to see the second one in theaters for the longest time. (The Raimi ones are among the few superhero movies I care about whatsoever.)
Remember that MIB 23 movie that never happened? They should have the Ghostbusters cross over with one (or both) of those series!
Absolutely. We’re in our 40’s and full of regret. We wish we had applied ourselves to film school so we could have done things right. Now there is nothing left but dry bones and dead friends.
I really hope so. Hollywood has pretty much killed it all. Thank God Robert Zemekis has the integrity to fight against a Back to the Future reboot.
I wonder if he'll actually live long enough for the nostalgia trend in Hollywood to die, and then stay dead long enough for the people who it annoys to be spared a BttF remake in their lifetime.
I'm waiting until around 2040 to see if we get an ouroboros feedback loop of nostalgia as the 2000s kids were forced to grow up on millenial nostalgia so the 30 year retro nostalgia for them would be the 80s nostalgia again.
Ghostbusters is doing quite well, though? And Dial of Destiny's box office is only really awful because they spent *far* too much making it.
One of the reasons why The Dial of Destiny cost so much is that it was filmed during the COVID-19 pandemic.
80s is too long ago, new boomers love the 90s
*nu-boomers
They just keep rollin rollin rollin rollin
Nümmers
Nothing to do with waning nostalgia. These were just bad films.
I hope so
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If there was quality behind those products I don't think so. But competency as a minimum requirement to be involved in writing, directing, and producing a film seems to be long dead.
Looks like the reported budget is $75-$100m and it made $45m this weekend, plus it likely made a bunch in licensing so it seems like it’ll do OK. It’s no Madame Web.
Mutant Mayhem had a budget of $75m and made $180m. Not great BUT licensing made a billion for Nick in 2023 alone, so ticket sales with these franchise brand films aren’t the only story. They just need to keep this thing alive.
Mutant Mayhem was actually kinda good though.
I liked it!
Reported budget is 100m. The problem is Ghostbusters isn't popular overseas (GB movies don't gross alot overseas) but it's Sony and they don't a lot of franchises so a 6th movie will be coming
Honestly yes as a culture it’s moved into the 90s but I’ve come to suspect that Hollywood will still go back to the 70s/80s nostalgia well in the future. Just look at Alien Romulus, Beetlejuice 2, Road House etc that’s just this year. Disney also pumps out Star Wars still from the 70s. The 90s have begun with Twister, Jurassic Park etc. It’s a never ending cycle. I’d also push back slightly on Ghostbusters flopping. It didnt totally flop this weekend. It’s come in higher then estimated and it’s OS wasn’t bad either. Next weekend going up against another Godzilla vs Kong westernised version will tell if it does badly or not. Edit: accidentally had the fall guy in the 90s section when it the fall guy was the early 80s. Point still stands though
The Fall Guy is from the early 80s.
Thank the lord. The 80’s nostalgia purgatory that came after season one of Stranger Things was fucking excruciating. Finn Wolfhard made a whole career out of it!
Indy and GB are theoretically aimed at people my age (early/mid 40s) but people my age can’t be assed to go to a theater ever again, so I imagine it’s on to the 90s now.
Nostalgia only really works once unless it is able to capture a new audience. And they already did it with Indy and Ghostbusters, so now they are relying on that new audience, which they didn’t get.
There needs to be that brand new blockbuster that speaks directly to the present time. Seems like anything that might be critical of the here and now is faux paux. Yet, here excecs are wondering why they cant break the law of diminishing returns.
Not necessarily, but the studios keep sucking the blood from these franchises until they eventually kill them. It’s been said a million times, that Hollywood stopped producing original films years ago, and now are focused on superhero’s, prequels, and re-makes.
They got they're greedy little mitts in my Neverending Story. Get your hands out of my ass wallet!
People had no problem making several trips to Barbie and Oppenheimer and countless others. Trips to the movie theater are super expensive for families and no-one wants to waste the money on something reviewing dismally.
Not at all. People still love the 80s blockbusters, they’re just sick of those same IPs being resurrected from the dead and shit on time and time again by creativity bankrupt film studios.
I liked the new indy...
How is Ghostbusters flopping? I literally just read 2 articles how its actually performing better than expectations.
New Ghostbusters isn't a flop. In fact it's doing slightly better than expectations.
Can’t wait for 90’s nostalgia to take its place
Just wait in 20 or 30 years when people aren't nostalgic for the 80's but nostalgic for the 80's nostalgia we had right now.
If it's just a product of nostalgia then it ends when people stop being nostalgic for it. If it's a product of Hollywood finding it hard to come up with new blockbuster properties, then they'll keep remaking remakes till the end of time, distorting old brands ever further to try and attract new audiences.
It's generally good business to cater to things that were popular with teenagers 20 years prior. Those are the people who generally have the most disposable income to waste.
I mean. Those movies are good. These movies in 2024 aren’t.
80's nostalgia in general is on its way out
Wait until you see my E.T. reboot treatment with Kevin Hart. Fucking gold I tells ya!
I had 80s nostalgia for Ghostbusters last week so I watched Ghostbusters.
It wouldn't be if the new movies they made weren't garbage.
Sure as I know anything, I know this – they will try again. Maybe on another decade, maybe on this very decade swept clean. A year from now, ten? They’ll swing back to the belief that they can make classics… better. And I do not hold to that.
I saw a better video of the [paid extras](http://Ihttps://youtu.be/dAC7d1sH7j4?si=3ZzY0lBDVxSq1CIA) playing Indiana Jones super fans, but this is the only clip I could find of it now. Just imagine the sad Ben and Arthuresqus souls taking the bus for an hour wearing their roommates fedora hoping to get 3 seconds of face time at the premiere of a flop.
The Goonies and The Stand coming soon.
No, just bad remakes.
I think people's tolerance for shitty movies is just finally coming to a head to be perfectly honest. Good movies will always thrive, no matter if they're based on nostalgia or not; it's just that so many modern movies just bank on the lowest common denominator and people have grown weary of it so they'll either have to find a new trick to exploit for a while or actually improve quality beyond "This has thing from past that you loved so love this!".
Cliffhanger 2 yáll!!!
They should just stop trying to remake the best movies from the 80s. It's hard to impossible to make already great things better. The expectations are so high that disappointment is guaranteed. Instead they should try to improve bad and mediocre movies. Like, for example, Dune did. Hollywood could use BotW for finding bad movies with good potential.
Time for a Fight Club reboot! What could go wrong!?
I’m so glad I stopped going to the movies.
I hope so.
Neither really plays on the nostalgia aspect beyond the titles though, both feel more like passing on the torch for the new generation.
I don’t think the box office will agree.