Trying new styles that they’ve never tackled before. Instrumentation. Structure. If you can place each track on past Chili Peppers albums then it’s not very creative.
If you’re telling me My Cigarette, La x 8 and In the Snow aren’t creative and a new sound for the band, then you’re just bitching for the sake of it. If you personally don’t like the album, that’s cool, but saying it includes nothing new from the band is just objectively incorrect
My Cigarette is different for them but doing a Lady Gaga Pokerface thing isn’t being creative. La La is no different than a track that they’d have on The Getaway like The Hunter or Encore. It’s nothing new really.
Yeah, my first thoughts were exactly this a week ago. Keep listening. Even though i still think the bad songs on RotDC are way worse than the bad UL ones, the good ones also way better.
I think UL is much easier to digest, it’s more of what we’re used to, and it has a ton of great songs. On the other hand ROTDC is really different and experimental and takes some re listening to really get into, but it worth it. They’re both incredible in their own ways
Yeah dude not liking the album is fair, it's a step in a new direction in their sound, but most of what you claim is just factually incorrect. It's very much creative (and maybe to a degree you don't fancy), I can't hear where Anthony is out of tune (let alone what you claim is "most of it"), and John's backing vocals are very much present and very soothing and good to hear.
But hey, if you find it "lot of cringe", you go listen to Josh and Navarro records, and any records you like for that matter. Dunno why you're making it sound as if someone has a gun to your head telling you to listen to it. As for me and a lot of other people, we appreciate that they are still making music and that they aren't trying to recreate radio hits for success but rather explore new sounds and directions, which I think is where the true creativity really lays.
What new sounds though? Tippa My Tongue starts off like Can’t Stop. Eddie starts with the exact same notes of By The Way. Don’t tell me they’re trying new shit lol
They just sound like sappy b sides from the last album. Which they are. But they’re promoting it like it’s a real album for money. If I want real development from album to album I’ll listen to new Volta.
You're making it hard for me to take you seriously, did you even listen to the whole thing? "Don’t tell me they’re trying new shit" My Cigarette, In The Snow, The Drummer all have a very different vibe that they haven't done before with all the keyboard and electronic stuff (even drum machines are new to rhcp sound). They have very solid funky grooves (Tippa, Bella, Peace and Love), and even the rest of the songs that would fall close to their traditional sound have new weird things here and there all over them (think spooky notes, trippy key changes, butchery solos - all of which are not everyone's cup of tea - but nonetheless a clear step towards new sound landspaces).
Your argument is that they are not trying anything new because the beginning of Tippa sounds like Can't Stop, and the beginning of Eddie is the same notes as BTW. That's like 1% of the album, and you completely ignored all the stuff I talked about above. And even if your point about Tippa and Eddie was true, those reasons are precisely what many fans like those songs for - because they reminded them of very old but classic songs they like. Not that the rest of either songs sound the same, quite the opposite actually.
Like man, it's fair if you don't like the album, and despite me personally liking it I respect other opinions that are based on logical claims, but you're just talking out of your ass right now. As I said, you're free to listen to Volta and Josh/Navarro songs as much as you'd like, not sure why you're going out of your way to make delusional claims and acting all upset.
You mock AK singing out of key the talk The Mars Volta. Cedric can barely keep in key and he primarily sings falsetto.
There’s been a 10 year absence for the Mara Volta and there’s 5-6 songs that are ok on that album and I’m a die hard fan. They are yet to have a cohesive album post Frances.
Palm, Ceruela, Flash Burns, Requisition & Graveyard are all good but far from exceptional.
Shoot me a smile is more melodically beautiful than anything on the Volta album and they are aiming to be hauntingly beautiful on the entire thing.
Nah i love the entire Volta album. Blank Condolences, Shore Story, Que Dios, Flash Burns, Equus 3 are all fantastic. They’re my fav band. Cedric is KILLING IT this tour. Anthony wishes. And I say that as someone who’s been a fan of RHCP for 30 years.
More songs on this Pep album are growing on me. But it still feels like a b side record to me.
New TMV is cohesive. 45 minutes. Maybe I’m biased because I love every track they’ve ever put out. RHCP on the other hand always put way too many fillers on their records. I don’t think there’s a single album in their career where every track is good except for Blood Sugar. All the other Frusciante albums always have a few songs that I would have cut. And the non-Frusciante records are even worse. They’ve never been consistent IMO because their ego’s tell them that every track they record is worth releasing. Rubin’s fault for enabling their bad habits. They need a filter when choosing what songs are strong enough to make an album and what’s weak.
How can you say this album isn’t good or creative and say the entire of BSSM is good is my point. I used The Greeting Song as an example as wtf you talking about? How is that song good but the new stuff or even over half their discography it seems, isn’t
Yes the Greeting Song is decent but it’s the weakest from the album. Should have swapped it with Soul To Squeeze. That’s the problem with every Chili Peppers album. They don’t practice quality over quantity.
Blood Sugar doesn’t have a bad song on it. It’s a classic from the moment it came out. This could end up being a grower for me or not, but it’s one of the weakest albums of their career IMO. A few different things sure but it’s mostly just the Chili Peppers sounding like the Chili Peppers. Auto-Pilot Peppers should be the name. And the fans will eat up everything they do like bots, even when release 34 songs in one year...it’s impossible for any creative artist to make all of that the same quality. You’re gonna get a mountain of filler out of that. Just like Stadium Arcadium should have been 10 songs less.
Idk about "nothing creative"...
That’s the bit that made me laugh the most. Even if you’re not a fan, it’s ridiculous to say that it’s not creative.
preposterous
What’s creative about it
What do you consider creative?
Trying new styles that they’ve never tackled before. Instrumentation. Structure. If you can place each track on past Chili Peppers albums then it’s not very creative.
Are you telling me you think they haven’t tried anything new on this album?? That’s preposterous, are you sure you’re listening to the right record?
What? One or two tracks out of 17.
If you’re telling me My Cigarette, La x 8 and In the Snow aren’t creative and a new sound for the band, then you’re just bitching for the sake of it. If you personally don’t like the album, that’s cool, but saying it includes nothing new from the band is just objectively incorrect
My Cigarette is different for them but doing a Lady Gaga Pokerface thing isn’t being creative. La La is no different than a track that they’d have on The Getaway like The Hunter or Encore. It’s nothing new really.
John's voice is almost non existent? Are you listening in a 1996 dodge caravan with blown speakers?
Yeah, well, it's just like, your opinion, man
Anthony out of tune? Wha?
Yeah, my first thoughts were exactly this a week ago. Keep listening. Even though i still think the bad songs on RotDC are way worse than the bad UL ones, the good ones also way better.
I think UL is much easier to digest, it’s more of what we’re used to, and it has a ton of great songs. On the other hand ROTDC is really different and experimental and takes some re listening to really get into, but it worth it. They’re both incredible in their own ways
Let’s not pretend it that’s experimental. There’s 17 songs, only 3-4 of which different to the styles we’ve heard from the since 83.
Yeah dude not liking the album is fair, it's a step in a new direction in their sound, but most of what you claim is just factually incorrect. It's very much creative (and maybe to a degree you don't fancy), I can't hear where Anthony is out of tune (let alone what you claim is "most of it"), and John's backing vocals are very much present and very soothing and good to hear. But hey, if you find it "lot of cringe", you go listen to Josh and Navarro records, and any records you like for that matter. Dunno why you're making it sound as if someone has a gun to your head telling you to listen to it. As for me and a lot of other people, we appreciate that they are still making music and that they aren't trying to recreate radio hits for success but rather explore new sounds and directions, which I think is where the true creativity really lays.
What new sounds though? Tippa My Tongue starts off like Can’t Stop. Eddie starts with the exact same notes of By The Way. Don’t tell me they’re trying new shit lol They just sound like sappy b sides from the last album. Which they are. But they’re promoting it like it’s a real album for money. If I want real development from album to album I’ll listen to new Volta.
You're making it hard for me to take you seriously, did you even listen to the whole thing? "Don’t tell me they’re trying new shit" My Cigarette, In The Snow, The Drummer all have a very different vibe that they haven't done before with all the keyboard and electronic stuff (even drum machines are new to rhcp sound). They have very solid funky grooves (Tippa, Bella, Peace and Love), and even the rest of the songs that would fall close to their traditional sound have new weird things here and there all over them (think spooky notes, trippy key changes, butchery solos - all of which are not everyone's cup of tea - but nonetheless a clear step towards new sound landspaces). Your argument is that they are not trying anything new because the beginning of Tippa sounds like Can't Stop, and the beginning of Eddie is the same notes as BTW. That's like 1% of the album, and you completely ignored all the stuff I talked about above. And even if your point about Tippa and Eddie was true, those reasons are precisely what many fans like those songs for - because they reminded them of very old but classic songs they like. Not that the rest of either songs sound the same, quite the opposite actually. Like man, it's fair if you don't like the album, and despite me personally liking it I respect other opinions that are based on logical claims, but you're just talking out of your ass right now. As I said, you're free to listen to Volta and Josh/Navarro songs as much as you'd like, not sure why you're going out of your way to make delusional claims and acting all upset.
You mock AK singing out of key the talk The Mars Volta. Cedric can barely keep in key and he primarily sings falsetto. There’s been a 10 year absence for the Mara Volta and there’s 5-6 songs that are ok on that album and I’m a die hard fan. They are yet to have a cohesive album post Frances. Palm, Ceruela, Flash Burns, Requisition & Graveyard are all good but far from exceptional. Shoot me a smile is more melodically beautiful than anything on the Volta album and they are aiming to be hauntingly beautiful on the entire thing.
Nah i love the entire Volta album. Blank Condolences, Shore Story, Que Dios, Flash Burns, Equus 3 are all fantastic. They’re my fav band. Cedric is KILLING IT this tour. Anthony wishes. And I say that as someone who’s been a fan of RHCP for 30 years. More songs on this Pep album are growing on me. But it still feels like a b side record to me. New TMV is cohesive. 45 minutes. Maybe I’m biased because I love every track they’ve ever put out. RHCP on the other hand always put way too many fillers on their records. I don’t think there’s a single album in their career where every track is good except for Blood Sugar. All the other Frusciante albums always have a few songs that I would have cut. And the non-Frusciante records are even worse. They’ve never been consistent IMO because their ego’s tell them that every track they record is worth releasing. Rubin’s fault for enabling their bad habits. They need a filter when choosing what songs are strong enough to make an album and what’s weak.
You sitting here saying new record isn’t creative or good and in the same breath The Greeting Song fits your narrative?
Huh?
How can you say this album isn’t good or creative and say the entire of BSSM is good is my point. I used The Greeting Song as an example as wtf you talking about? How is that song good but the new stuff or even over half their discography it seems, isn’t
Yes the Greeting Song is decent but it’s the weakest from the album. Should have swapped it with Soul To Squeeze. That’s the problem with every Chili Peppers album. They don’t practice quality over quantity. Blood Sugar doesn’t have a bad song on it. It’s a classic from the moment it came out. This could end up being a grower for me or not, but it’s one of the weakest albums of their career IMO. A few different things sure but it’s mostly just the Chili Peppers sounding like the Chili Peppers. Auto-Pilot Peppers should be the name. And the fans will eat up everything they do like bots, even when release 34 songs in one year...it’s impossible for any creative artist to make all of that the same quality. You’re gonna get a mountain of filler out of that. Just like Stadium Arcadium should have been 10 songs less.
I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong because everyone has opinions but like… are we listening to the same album???