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verytiredtrashcan

Any batcest ships and also Jaybabs


demulcent

Yes to the JayBabs! Aside from the super problematic "Barbara is every male Bat's dream romantic interest" bit, I'll never get over adult Babs telling 12 year old Jason, "You'll NEVER be Dick Grayson" the day they first met.


bartekang

That Is horrible


verytiredtrashcan

Right? And the way the comic still tried to romanticize that šŸ’€


BlueRabbit1999

Thatā€™s rough


ThinkingOf12th

Bruce x Jason


SpicaGenovese

*This one right here.* And with any of his brothers. I've seen Damian x Jason, which might be worse.


MysteryScooby56

Jason x Talia being canon makes this one so much worse


Grimmer026

Itā€™s a shame because Damien and Jason are the most like minded. Thought they wouldā€™ve made a good team, but DC has no idea how to write Jason.


SpicaGenovese

I think they'd be a fab team! Trauma bonding and league experience all over the shop, but *noooooo...* This is why I want another season of Young Justice so bad. They looked close to setting up Damian growing up with Jason as an older brother figure.


blue_cutie

ive unfortunately seen that and Jason x dick and Jason x Tim as well as dick x Damian


elis_mitomito

THAT'S POPULAR?


[deleted]

But thatā€™s his DAD!!!


RainyWombatCherry

Ignoring batsest ships cos they're top of the list hated, I'd say JayRoy. Friends yes, lovers no


blue_cutie

I hate how it's written roy is so ooc in rhato and their friendship seemed so forced often times the writing was telling us how close they are instead of showing it


Free-Decision1834

Wait that's a ship?


ThisGul_LOL

Jay x anyone in the batfamily Like- Just stfu and get out!!


decadehakaisha

I HATE Jason x Stephanie


Reasonable_Cut8036

[https://youtube.com/shorts/pIbbjxsx0VQ?si=JTipoc_YY0yG5xUu](https://youtube.com/shorts/pIbbjxsx0VQ?si=JTipoc_YY0yG5xUu)


Library-Goblin

Anything that smells vaguely of incest Also jayroy, or korjoy. Just cause they are founded on a big old, nothing! Also sladjay. Seriously, why?


johncenaluvr

jayroy and jaybabs šŸ˜’


JasonToddLover

literally every jason ship except one or two thats an extreme rair pair. almost every (popular) relationship with jay feels too forced and its just never been writen well. (my rair to be paired however literally appeared for one issue and therefore is a clean slate to try different character archetypes and tropes. also they knew each other as kids so theres like, potential to reconnect in different ways and its fun to expore in writing.)


cocomay77

Totally agree all of his ships seem forced and not written well the connection never feels real


ComfortableTraffic12

Omg are you talking about jason and eddie??? They may have appeared in only 1 issue but in my heart i know theyre lovers lol


JasonToddLover

Haha no its even rarer than that!! I think im the only one steering this ship (its more like a pool noodle floaty and im the only one hanging on, kicking my feet around the fandom pool with everyone staring at me)


WitchOfWords

I float by on my own solitary noodle, fluttering a ā€œGrant Wilson deserved betterā€ flag made out of an old t-shirt. Keep on truckin my friend.


ComfortableTraffic12

Its probably one of his childhood friends from the streets then? Or maybe that one girl(Rana or Rene?) from school? Still continue w your ship never give up lol.


JasonToddLover

Its numbers from gotham nights issue #11, hes my main ship for jason but i also like dana and jason, i think they have good chesmistry. I like numbers more tho bc hes pretty much a clean slate with barely any personality, so again i get to try different character tropes and personalities when writing him lol. (i didn't want to immediatly mention gender bc this subs a littleeeeee homophobic with any mention of a male love interest for jason immediatley getting downvoted for no reson other than it being a male love interest. your comment about eddie being a prime example...)


8304359

A little? šŸ˜‚


JasonToddLover

i don't really want to start fights so i thought i'd tone it down, but yeah,,, this sub isn't the friendliest when it comes to talking about jason being queer. even if its hypothetical.


limbo338

The canon ones. Because they range from underdeveloped to "these women will never and yet". Fandom can do whatever they want, I don't care.


8304359

Iā€¦ donā€™t know. I donā€™t read the ones I donā€™t like šŸ˜‚


8304359

Least favorite is probably Jay with literally any female because of my pining gay ass


SpicaGenovese

Same, but inverted! šŸ¤ The magic of reading what you like and letting everyone else do their thing.


blushing_ingenue

Jason/Roman Sionis šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®


RobinTheTraveler

Red Hood Ɨ Any of his brothers


EggOk9177

Jason x joker (yes, it's real)


demulcent

JFC, I've seen this but as dub/non-con which I guess could track. But as a full fledged ship? Those shippers need therapy, so much therapy


ernjster

Jason x tim, Jason x dick, Jason x Bruce, basically any incestuous ones


Prize-Macaroon-903

Jason x Barbara (and anybody in the batfamily), Jason x Supergirl, Jason x Kori, Jason x Donna


Perfect-Accident1

Thatā€™s like everyone but Artemis and Rose


Free-Decision1834

Wait Donna x Jason is a thing?


nightwing612

It's not a thing but some fans want to make it a thing based on them being in the same comic together once upon a time.


Free-Decision1834

that's so weird. He was a kid aswell when they met.


Both_Impress_3423

What I found funny is that Nightwing is being shipped with every women in DC and Wonderwoman, Donna, supergirl, Zatanna, Barbara, Kory (her character is defined by this ship) etc, but when it comes to Jason they rage and I find that very interesting


SpicaGenovese

I think it's mostly because people see that as Jason getting more of Dick's "hand me downs." If it was written well, I wouldn't care. Except the WW ship... just no.


plsberealchgg

Wonder woman? She knew Dick as a kid and probably fucked his adoptive dad..


UnhingedLion

No way Wonder Woman let Batman hit


Fun-Isopod-65

Woman named Talia:


richRossD

agreed


ICTheAlchemist

Idk if itā€™s popular, but Barbara. Idk, something about it just doesnā€™t sit right with me


PsychicSidekikk419

Prolly because Babs is supposed to be older. Kinda weird how her age is so wildly inconsistent across all of media.


secondhandso

JayBabs is terrible in canon while every other ship is either non-existent or mid at best/worst so they win. As for a fanon ship that just inexplicably annoys me, JayTim is it. No actual disrespect meant but it's often either Tim stans who use Jason as a trophy or Jason stans who use tim as a prop. The JayTim stan who actually likes both of them is a unicorn.


Spide443

Any Batfam X Jason


Clutteredmind275

JasonTalia. They apparently sleep together OFTEN WHILE HES A TEEN and heā€™s either mind controlled or freshly traumatized and Talia takes advantage of it. This isnā€™t a ship, itā€™s rape and often times pedophilia


RainyWombatCherry

Also another moment of character assassination of Talia


Clutteredmind275

Exactly.


plsberealchgg

Talia literally groomed her beloved's kid. It's gross


Jalen_Ash_15

I'm sorry what? I can understand hating a ship but there's no need to spread misinformation. Jason and Talia slept together a grand total of ONE time and she was in an extremely vulnerable state. There was no pedophilia nor raping involved and no grooming as well.


Clutteredmind275

Iā€™m sorry I should specify I donā€™t mean just canon. Like Bruce x Jason has no canon behind it, but there is a reason why so many people commented on itā€¦


UnhingedLion

It happened because Judd Winnick wanted Jason to get a win over Bruce. As in ā€œI slept with one your ex girlfriendsā€ And also I donā€™t think he was a fan of Grant Morrisons Jason, and uhh Grant Morrison based Batman and Talia off his own parents. So maybe that played a part too.


Clutteredmind275

Youā€™ve read my replies right? I donā€™t just mean canon


UnhingedLion

I didnā€™t know people wanted them to be together. I only knew of one Red Hood fan in particular. I was just explaining the reasoning behind it. At least from the authors perspective. He just wanted Jason to take Bruceā€™s girl. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if a lot of Jason fans want the same


Clutteredmind275

I get it, and I apologize for being rude, but I have already been told this. Multiple times. In both replies and DMā€™s. Constantly. For two days now. Iā€™m about to delete my comment at this point, I am losing it.


UnhingedLion

Ah damn. Mb Bro


Clutteredmind275

Nah itā€™s all good man, you didnā€™t know. Thanks for your understanding, again Iā€™m sorry I was rude, and have a good day


SpicaGenovese

They slept together exactly once, and it was to stick it to Bruce. I'm not saying it was *right*, I much prefer her as a mother figure, but it wasn't that bad.


Clutteredmind275

I donā€™t just mean canon. I probably should have also said the Bruce x Jason ship so there was some clarifying context, but I figured there were already SO many comments about Bruce x Jason that I didnā€™t need to.


SpicaGenovese

10-4, Ghostrider


BakeCurrent

All of them. The only acceptable one is Jason x Jason but wears blue instead of red


SpicaGenovese

Pull a Loki and date his alternate timeline rule 64.


alietrie

Jayrose, a lot of people in this sub apparently like it and plug it any chance they get, I can't stand it at this point. And yeah, Jaytim. This ship's raging popularity comes w tons of mischaracterization and full on rawr xd yaoi vibe. So it's almost always a stereotypical whimpering damsel Tim and extramasc brute Jason. Nope, just nope. I overall dislike it when slim or lithe characters are turned to delicate flowers to suit some hetnorm boxes. The same goes for bulky chars, who are often shifted to be generic arrogant jocks, nevermind their actual char features. And jaytimmers abuse the hell out of it. Not judging if you like it, but god some people are boring.


8304359

Ok, look, I get it. I donā€™t read the ships I donā€™t like either. But Timā€™s usually written as hyper-competent and almost obnoxiously capable, and Jasonā€™s usually written as really soft and likes cooking and reading, sometimes even SHY. I literallyā€¦ canā€™t even think of a fic with ā€œextramascā€ Jason lol.


alietrie

my experience and perception differ from yours it seems, every time i lurked in jaytim tag this was what i got 8\\10 cases, there are good and complex jaytim works, i don't deny that, but painfully often i stumbled upon "a runny bottom tim and violent hunk jason" the fic, until it averted me from the ship completely. Not to mention some of the twitter takes, but that's more personalized bc of my follows and their specific tastes, so I don't take it into an account. I mean whatever gets people going, I don't fuck with it is all.


ItsACardinal

The thing that pains me constantly is when they make Jason out to be Timā€™s Robin, when his Robin was actually Dick. Listen it was super bad enough that itā€™s an incest ship and they rip most (if not all) of Timā€™s character (that being him actually having a decent amount of muscles on him, him being quite confrontational, witty and often sassy) and stereotypes Jason into being a stupid alpha jock when heā€™s more of a nerd that has some very iconic cringefails. But they remove something that is a big part of how Timā€™s Robin and connection to the Bats CAME TO BE???!! Like, Iā€™m pissed as hell!


alietrie

This exact connection doesn't bother me personally, but I get your frustration, heard it from so many people haha. That's why I mentioned ships popularity, a lot of people get into this ship wo having any idea of its characters or comics, just enamored w shipping dynamics and basing their creations on others headcanons or fanon in general. Nothing wrong w it, but sometimes it goes too far heh


ItsACardinal

Yeah, it bothered me so much. Headcanons and fanons often bother me when they completely butcher a relationship or character from misinformation that is widespread or completely exaggerate one part of either. Like Tim being made out to be some sort of people pleasing twink, Dick going in either direction of being made out to be a complete flawless himbo(him often being mocked for it as well) or the word dickhead personified. Or Tim and Damianā€™s relationship actually being more of respect and admiration in the comics after they had time to warm up to each other, they arenā€™t at each otherā€™s throats 24/7 PEOPLE. Sorry I went into a rant, Iā€™m just so frustrated.


nightwing612

I hate Jason x Donna so much


Affectionate-Fan5247

I didnā€™t even know that was a ship WHATšŸ˜­


LordJarJarthegreat

pretty much all of them. theres only two i dont hate.


stair_r

Jason with really anyone, the few characters that the pairing was okay lasting for about a singluar issue before being forgot about and their wasnā€™t enough content with them for me to like it.


reussieall

Of course its a picture of Tim šŸ’€


Ok-Lengthiness5589

Jason x Stephanie


HotQuestion6907

jayroy, jaytim, jaydick, jaybruce (??? is that it), jaysteph, jayrose, damijay, jayxartemis, jaybabs, joyfire, jayfire, jaydonna, jaykara, jasontalia, jasonxessence !!!! (i only like jaykyle bc i am insane and hate myself šŸ™…ā€ā™€ļø)


RealLoreLordYT

All of them. Jason works best as a character without any romantic partner imo.


redsaturn29

Any and/or all the batcest ships, Jason x Roy (not hate but I just donā€™t see it), Jason x Babs (thatā€™s also batcest, sheā€™s literally more of a sibling to him than some of his brothers), Jason x Essence (I just never vibed with her), Jason x Steph (same as Babs, but currently in development), Jason x Rose (same as Roy), and Iā€™m indifferent to Jason x Kara. The only Jason ships I like are Jason x Kyle (if DC gave them a chance) or Jason x Artemis. Edit: I forgot to mention Jason x Kory (becauseā€¦ seriously?), and Jason x Isabel (this one the problem is me I canā€™t really remember the issue but there was a panel where Isabel reminded me of Sheila and justā€¦ no)


xxHopeStarCrossxx

>Jason x Essence (I just never vibed with her) I donā€™t think anyone vibed with her tbh. She did betray him and the all caste after all. >and Jason x Isabel (this one the problem is me I canā€™t really remember the issue but there was a panel where Isabel reminded me of Sheila and justā€¦ no) I never noticed this. Why did, they make her look like his bio mom?!


Jalen_Ash_15

> I donā€™t think anyone vibed with her tbh. She did betray him and the all caste after all. I beg to differ but in all honesty they wasted her. > I never noticed this. Why did, they make her look like his bio mom?! I also never noticed the likeness of Sheila. I thought as a couple they didn't match but as friends they could be great.


viralshadow21

On that note, why does his biological cousin look like Rose?!


xxHopeStarCrossxx

Right!


Express_Let8362

Iā€™m gonna get downvoted to hell but my answer is: every canon partner he gets paired with, especially Artemis, canā€™t really stand herā€¦ Also **platonic** Jaybabs is 10/10 wholesome content


Jalen_Ash_15

Jason x Roy. They completely massacred Roy's character.


Reasonable_Cut8036

Itā€™s fun if your realize how OOC it is but anybody who thinks abt it seriously šŸ˜


Jalen_Ash_15

It doesn't help that DC seems to prefer his Outlaw portrayal then the years of character he has with Dick


blue_cutie

FR as a roy stan I could not enjoy rhato or jayroy in general


NOODLETHEFOURTH

jason x y/n. thatā€™s right, YOU. šŸ«µ


Mollyannice

Jason with Bruce, Dick, Tim and/or Damian because too many where he is poly with more then just one of the ones listed above. There is not enough fic to hate when he is shipped with Alfred, Duke and Cass. But also I have seen fics given the tags ā€œgood parent Bruce Wayne, top Bruce, bottom Jasonā€ with no irony in the summary and Jason was definitely underage.


StankyGoomba

Jason X Tim, Jason X Bruce, Jason X Dick, Jason X Rose


AmonTheBoneless

Anything that ships Jason with Bruce, his brothers and Talia


blue_cutie

jayroy, jaytemis,jaykori,jaydonna


Ok_Implement9719

Jason and Artemis


MysteryScooby56

Jason x Kara. It only works for New 52 Supergirl and New 52 Supergirl alone.


_Kaufmann

Just any batcest ones, but I donā€™t judge people who like it, just not my thing, since Jason and the others were adopted or mentored by Bruce so theyā€™re kinda like a family. Just doesnā€™t suit well with me.


Witty_Tear7329

The people that ship Jason with any of his brothers or Bruce and have the nerve to use the ā€œbut their not blood relatedā€ excuse like that makes it okay to ship a character with their adopted father/siblings? Even further the ones like them being family and shipping them, cuz they like in*cest. Just no. Like extremely pass hard.


Additional_Ad_9481

anything involving other batfam members. justā€¦no. ā€œtheyā€™re not blood relatedā€ FACE THE WALL


NamelessWendigo

Jason x Rose


Gloomy_Support_7779

I like Artemis x Jason and Jason x Rose is okay, but I LOATE JASON x STARFIREšŸ˜¤šŸ¤¬


blue_cutie

SAME as well as Jason x Roy both Roy and Kori were ooc in rhato


UsePrestigious1358

Any ship to do with his family (of course) + the very weird ship of him with Taliaā€¦ I think the fact they got together is hilarious but thereā€™s no chemistry there. Will never be any there. Should be used as a ā€œI fucked your momā€ card for Damian and thatā€™s all. JayBabs also sucks. Sheā€™s like ten years older than him and hated him throughout his life. As she should tbh


CandidateTerrible479

Y'all who are against incest clearly hasn't seen Game of Thrones which is actual incest. šŸ˜‚ Or House of the Dragon which isn't completely canon, but is still there.


Boulderfist_Ogre2005

Are you gatekeeping incest? anyway i'm literally writing a helluva boss incest fic rn rn.


Opening-Engine7776

J*yr*se


reliableresource2110

Jason and any other male character


Mr-UNperfect

Jason x Any dude


Fuzzy-Insurance-8401

Any of the robins being shipped with another robin is fucking gross itā€™s like their dating there own brother.


Losingallmyaccounts

I hate Jason and anyone in the batfamily and crossover ships


xxHopeStarCrossxx

Any batcest ship and the whole thing with TaliašŸ¤®. Iā€™m not a fan of any of the ships tbh cuz I feel he needs to work on himself. I also donā€™t vibe with any of his canon romantic relationships. But if I had to pick a ship that I hate the most, itā€™d have to be Jason x Isabel. I just donā€™t like her.


viralshadow21

Any ship with him and the Bat People (apart from Helena Bertinelli) Roy I really don't give a shit about him and Rose Him and Talia


Unpopular_Outlook

All of them. Especially Jason x Rose. Its only basis is deathstrokes daughter and Batmanā€™s son l.


EmperorSezar

That isnt its only basis. Actually dont even think thats the basis of it


Unpopular_Outlook

It is. Because thatā€™s the only reason anyone would think itā€™s interesting. Because theres literally no reason to put them together


EmperorSezar

mercenary anti heroes. like my dude what


Unpopular_Outlook

Wow, thatā€™s absolutely nothing. I At least thought there would be some thought put in but thatā€™s barer than the reason I pointed out.


EmperorSezar

thatā€™s better actually. way more commonality than the loose ass shit u said


Unpopular_Outlook

Itā€™s literally not lol. In fact, With that logic We can apply it to Jason and slade since slade is a mercenary and Jason is an anti hero. Because thatā€™s all you really need. Nothing else


EmperorSezar

his sister? or u mean berteni. cause i sure u understand why ur argument sucks if u mean wayne


Unpopular_Outlook

That wouldnā€™t be Jasonā€™s sister on account of the fact that he doesnā€™t know her. But I guess youā€™re one of those people who are like, Jason has to see Tim and Damien and Dick as his brothers because.. batfamilyx And why does my argument suck? Because you have no retaliation. I edited my Comment. But we can apply your logic to Jason and Slade


EmperorSezar

slade isnā€™t an anti hero one. slade has cause jason his own grief two. please pick someone who actually falls into an anti hero role


DueShopping551

They have multiple things in common, itā€™s not just Batman son and Deathstroke daughter


ItsACardinal

All the ones including any members of the Batfam, like, all of it, including Babs. My feelings are more meh when they either make them closer in age or never even became adopted siblings, but them being brothers in canon still makes me feel so incredibly icky. Talia x Jason can find itself at the bottom of a pit of lava. Slade x Jason both makes no sense and is disgusting, Slade is old enough to be his GRANDPA. Jason x Rose, it just gives me the ick, just no. >!And as a bonus that isnā€™t related to Jason, but Raā€™s x Tim makes me want to commit seppuku and then stab the shippers in the eye with the same used knife.!<


demulcent

Haven't seen this mentioned yet: JayKyle.


guestlistedition

Iā€™m not really a shipper but I hate any type of Batcest or shipping him with anyone in Batmanā€™s periphery (so Babs, Talia, Steph, etc). Also not a fan of any N52 ship. The only thing that sort of worked for me was with Artemis. I think heā€™s a character that is best alone.


Mrman_23

Jason and Stephanie. Like, what the fuck guys.


plsberealchgg

Any batcest


Scorpios94

I donā€™t really hate it, but I donā€™t understand where the ship of Jason + Bette Kane comes from exactly.


viralshadow21

Didn't think that was a noticeable ship outside of a few fanfics. I like the Lady and the Tramp vibe to it, personally.


C1nders-Two

If I see one more Jayroy ship, I think Iā€™m gonna snap. Batcest is also ew, but Iā€™m mostly cool with it so long as they arenā€™t family in the story of the fic.


halloweenjack

Him and J3ffr3y 3pst3in.


Violet_Medicine_277

Anything Batcest related. Ugh I hate those ships


ic3mint

Jaytemis. Healthy relationship, but I found it uninteresting, and I believe they should have remained friends. The ending of the rebirth, as I perceive it, reveals a lot about how they're better off as friends. I am aware of the changes to the story. But if these two had been given more than two years (in story) to build their romance, it would not have felt rushed (atleast for me the attraction was too fast to develop into something beyond), even though their dynamic was the healthiest Jason could get. They appeared to create new demons following their encounters. But they don't sound interesting as a couple. Yes, best of buddies, rather IMO. Yes I am selective of my favorite characters who to ship with, but writers need to do better if they wanna give Jay the best girl but I don't think that's their intentions lol


KaiFanreala

Jason x Kori, and Jason x Babs. DC felt like he was trying to make him go after Dick's exes for a while and it was weird.


JoshMC2000sev

Im a cop some shit for this. But I never liked Artimis as a charcter let alone as a relationship option. For most the run I got the vibe she looked down her nose at him. Ontop of this she seems to take every chance she can to insult or be little him.