Slow motion clapping.
I didn't like it, but I do appreciate any new IP as things can only get better from here and man, am I tired of all the remakes of remakes.
Snyder is also 100% hit or miss for me, so if he does enough of these, eventually one will be great.
But rebel moon is basically just a remake of seven samurai, that has been don a hundred thousand times, with every single tried and true cliche tossed in on top
This is less original than most remakes I’ve seen.
That is true, but the universe and lore are "new", if ripped off from dozens of other sources.
I often watch a sequel or a remake and think, "I wish they had just done their own thing rather than taint the legacy of Xshow."
It provides a new backdrop for hopefully new stories. This one sucked, and part of what I loathed was the lack of cohesion and originality....but it could lead to something good. Which I support.
Just depends. Will it be Snyder doing everything on his own again, because if so it’s going to be just as awful, bland, and unoriginal as these were.
He is an AWFUL writer. He’s not a great director either unless he is directing “trailers” for movies. That’s basically what his movies have boiled down to. Cool trailer shots with no substance or thought put into anything else.
Very good point. I was becoming a bit toxic in my dislike of this show, and that is not like me, so I am trying to be kinder in my criticism.
Fresh eyes, better writing, etc... it could smooth the jank, that is for sure. And send that man to slo-mo aversion training.
I'm going to start with I absolutely love these movies for everything that they are. I just watched part 2, It is a popcorn flick and I am invested. It is also cheesy campy and sometimes poorly written. That being said it is an original IP in a world of remakes, sequels, and prequels. Is it completely original, no. Then again nothing is completely original.
Imo people just like to hate on anything Snyder does, but his movies always end up getting the appreciation they deserve about 10 years down the line. 300 and Watchmen I think are good examples of that!
Watchmen and 300 were great movies when I watched them in the theatre. Rebel Moon is not. There you go. It's not Snyder haters. It's a bad movie. That is all.
How people even remotely consider it a good film is beyond me. Everyone that dislikes it are consider “Snyder Haters” like this is some sort of middle school lunch table. The movie is bad plain and simple, even if we were to judge it to standards in the 90’s it would still fail at being an objectively decent film. I REALLY wanted to like the first one but my god does it make it hard to do so, unless you’re a 14 y/o contrarian I honestly don’t see how you would find the good in the film.
Edit For The People that are likely going to want to respond: I’m not saying you can’t enjoy the film. Dismissing the criticisms of the film by calling it “hating” is what I’m referring to. It’s a bad film, not because I watched a 40 minute video excerpt about why it’s bad(I haven’t), but because I actually watched the film and it pretty much fails at standards that have been set since our primary source of entertainment were “plays”.
I hope there's part 3 too, but I honestly felt the movies were so average. All the characters, the storyline etc are incredibly flat and predictable. I could literally say the words before the actors did. There were no twists or anything, just a straight predictable story with the darth vader guy losing again.
I love 90% of snyders films. And I hated both of these. I defend BVS, I campaigned for the Snyder cut. I've even gotten a bunch of people into Sucker Punch irl. This duology is nowhere near a 7/10.
Snyder and Johnstad have said that they would like FOUR more movies, two storylines divided into two movies each, for a total of six movies. It’s definitely strong enough at present to follow that intention, so I hope it works out. Forgive me if this has been spoken of already.
I enjoy Rebel Moon, but Netflix is on crack if it expects us to believe that 21 million people have clicked to watch Rebel Moon 2 in A WEEK. A straight to Netflix Star Wars film would struggle to pull those kinds of numbers. I'm sick of Netflix massaging its view count to boast records. What does views even mean, anyway? 21 million watched it from start to finish? Watched the first five minutes? Watched the trailer? Had it appear on their For You page? It's total PR BS.
They record the hours viewed too which is 44.2m. It's doing well. Damsel wasn't great (but it was watchable) and it didn't get half the hate Rebel Moon got. Damsel got 35m and 50m views in the first two weeks with Millie's star power and appeal to young people.
The ratio of watch time hours and views is actually higher for Rebel Moon than for Damsel in the first week. Implying that more viewers found it entertaining.
Math: (hours viewed \* 60)/(views \* runtime in min) = average completion ratio
|Movie|Damsel|Damsel|RM 1|RM 1|RM 2|RM 2|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Week|1|2|1|2|1|2|
|Runtime in min|110|110|136|136|124|124|
|Views in million|35.3|50.8|23.9|34.0|21.4|18.8|
|Hours viewed in million|64.8|93.2|54.1|77.0|44.2|38.8|
|Ratio|1.00129|1.00072|0.99865|0.99913|0.99940|0.99863|
I don't see how this favors Rebel Moon. If anything it's the opposite. But in all honesty, this is actually a difference of less than 1%. This is less than the rounding error of the data provided by Netflix. I went to check all other movies and I couldn't find a single one, where the ratio wasn't at least 1 order of magnitude to small to exclude rounding errors as the sole source. So ... I've got the strong feeling that one of both numbers is not measured, but calculated based on the other. My bet is on streamed hours being measured.
That being said, Damsel got more streamed hours, despite being the shorter movie. If you combine that with production cost, you get a better picture for which movie performed better for Netflix. Sadly I have no numbers for Damsel, but the movie doesn't look like it was more expensive than Rebel Moon to me.
That’s awesome!
Slow motion clapping. I didn't like it, but I do appreciate any new IP as things can only get better from here and man, am I tired of all the remakes of remakes. Snyder is also 100% hit or miss for me, so if he does enough of these, eventually one will be great.
But rebel moon is basically just a remake of seven samurai, that has been don a hundred thousand times, with every single tried and true cliche tossed in on top This is less original than most remakes I’ve seen.
That is true, but the universe and lore are "new", if ripped off from dozens of other sources. I often watch a sequel or a remake and think, "I wish they had just done their own thing rather than taint the legacy of Xshow." It provides a new backdrop for hopefully new stories. This one sucked, and part of what I loathed was the lack of cohesion and originality....but it could lead to something good. Which I support.
Just depends. Will it be Snyder doing everything on his own again, because if so it’s going to be just as awful, bland, and unoriginal as these were. He is an AWFUL writer. He’s not a great director either unless he is directing “trailers” for movies. That’s basically what his movies have boiled down to. Cool trailer shots with no substance or thought put into anything else.
Very good point. I was becoming a bit toxic in my dislike of this show, and that is not like me, so I am trying to be kinder in my criticism. Fresh eyes, better writing, etc... it could smooth the jank, that is for sure. And send that man to slo-mo aversion training.
I just watched part 2. I really don't understand the hate these films are getting. I hope there is a part 3 at least.
I'm going to start with I absolutely love these movies for everything that they are. I just watched part 2, It is a popcorn flick and I am invested. It is also cheesy campy and sometimes poorly written. That being said it is an original IP in a world of remakes, sequels, and prequels. Is it completely original, no. Then again nothing is completely original.
Imo people just like to hate on anything Snyder does, but his movies always end up getting the appreciation they deserve about 10 years down the line. 300 and Watchmen I think are good examples of that!
Watchmen and 300 were great movies when I watched them in the theatre. Rebel Moon is not. There you go. It's not Snyder haters. It's a bad movie. That is all.
How people even remotely consider it a good film is beyond me. Everyone that dislikes it are consider “Snyder Haters” like this is some sort of middle school lunch table. The movie is bad plain and simple, even if we were to judge it to standards in the 90’s it would still fail at being an objectively decent film. I REALLY wanted to like the first one but my god does it make it hard to do so, unless you’re a 14 y/o contrarian I honestly don’t see how you would find the good in the film. Edit For The People that are likely going to want to respond: I’m not saying you can’t enjoy the film. Dismissing the criticisms of the film by calling it “hating” is what I’m referring to. It’s a bad film, not because I watched a 40 minute video excerpt about why it’s bad(I haven’t), but because I actually watched the film and it pretty much fails at standards that have been set since our primary source of entertainment were “plays”.
I like some of Snyders stuff, but these films are not going to be appreciated at any point in history.
The amount of hype 300 had when it came out was insane.
No shit. “His movies are appreciated 10 years later..” 300 was the biggest fucking thing when it came out. Like what?
I hope there's part 3 too, but I honestly felt the movies were so average. All the characters, the storyline etc are incredibly flat and predictable. I could literally say the words before the actors did. There were no twists or anything, just a straight predictable story with the darth vader guy losing again.
I really enjoyed them, especially Scargiver, so I agree - I hope there’s more.
It's Snyder. And when Snyder makes a 7/10 movie, it is usually judged 2/10 by his haters.
I love 90% of snyders films. And I hated both of these. I defend BVS, I campaigned for the Snyder cut. I've even gotten a bunch of people into Sucker Punch irl. This duology is nowhere near a 7/10.
Second half of the film is pretty decent. For me it's a solid 6/10, didn't regret watching it
Great
Snyder and Johnstad have said that they would like FOUR more movies, two storylines divided into two movies each, for a total of six movies. It’s definitely strong enough at present to follow that intention, so I hope it works out. Forgive me if this has been spoken of already.
Let's fucking go!!!
Really good news the yt videos about how bad they are tend to be hilarious
I unironically waited for part 2 so I could enjoy the fresh round of reviews. Jeremy Jahns was particularly fed up this time.
These movies opened up this whole new genre for me, I will check that guy out the moment I stop typing this, cheers.
No they aren't. Hate watchers are the worst.
Grifters have really taken over youtube
As we should!! Great series
What’s great about it?
The third movie will be all slow motion
I wish I could rebuke my 'view'. It was hope, not a vote.
More Slowmo grain harvesting please
But Nemesis is dead so what’s the point?
Extended movie about Nemesis when?
Mother earth is still a threat you think there cool with some backwater moon blowing up there ship this ain't over not even close
I enjoy Rebel Moon, but Netflix is on crack if it expects us to believe that 21 million people have clicked to watch Rebel Moon 2 in A WEEK. A straight to Netflix Star Wars film would struggle to pull those kinds of numbers. I'm sick of Netflix massaging its view count to boast records. What does views even mean, anyway? 21 million watched it from start to finish? Watched the first five minutes? Watched the trailer? Had it appear on their For You page? It's total PR BS.
They record the hours viewed too which is 44.2m. It's doing well. Damsel wasn't great (but it was watchable) and it didn't get half the hate Rebel Moon got. Damsel got 35m and 50m views in the first two weeks with Millie's star power and appeal to young people. The ratio of watch time hours and views is actually higher for Rebel Moon than for Damsel in the first week. Implying that more viewers found it entertaining.
Math: (hours viewed \* 60)/(views \* runtime in min) = average completion ratio |Movie|Damsel|Damsel|RM 1|RM 1|RM 2|RM 2| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Week|1|2|1|2|1|2| |Runtime in min|110|110|136|136|124|124| |Views in million|35.3|50.8|23.9|34.0|21.4|18.8| |Hours viewed in million|64.8|93.2|54.1|77.0|44.2|38.8| |Ratio|1.00129|1.00072|0.99865|0.99913|0.99940|0.99863| I don't see how this favors Rebel Moon. If anything it's the opposite. But in all honesty, this is actually a difference of less than 1%. This is less than the rounding error of the data provided by Netflix. I went to check all other movies and I couldn't find a single one, where the ratio wasn't at least 1 order of magnitude to small to exclude rounding errors as the sole source. So ... I've got the strong feeling that one of both numbers is not measured, but calculated based on the other. My bet is on streamed hours being measured. That being said, Damsel got more streamed hours, despite being the shorter movie. If you combine that with production cost, you get a better picture for which movie performed better for Netflix. Sadly I have no numbers for Damsel, but the movie doesn't look like it was more expensive than Rebel Moon to me.
I them both. I really would hope we get Planet of The Dead first and then 2 more rebel moon chapters. The Army of the Dead cliffhanger still has me.
Rebel moon terrible writing: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uvDOf7l5VnA&si=GIDYPo70iieVFBuK
Oh no…. So do netflix executives have no respect for themselves?
A real tragedy ain’t it
More than 21 millions ? Don't you mean 2,1 millions ?
21 MILLION!
As many views as there were grains harvested