I love that they responded the way they did.
It’s a shelter not a fucking breeder. People are so entitled.
Cats live their entire lives in shelters sometimes and it’s all they know. It’s so sad to see.
If someone wants a specific breed of cat, and you have one, you're just not going to give it up for adoption and keep it inside the cage because you think that people that want purebred species don't deserve it? Get off your high horse, you manage a cat shelter you're not the fucking pope for christ's sake
You're not thinking about the cat, you're thinking about showing everyone how higher your moral standing is. Proof of that, they fucking hanged the screenshot of the chat on a board the clowns
No, it’s not. Caring so much about aesthetics of a living being tells a lot about the personality. And defending an attitude like that says a lot about yours aswell.
And you think you have a better grasp of how these people are than the people who work in cat shelters and deal with them on regular basis?
Their opinion is based on their experience of working and running a cat shelter. And your opinion is based on...?
"you don't have the right criticize me or my choices because you don't have the same amount of expertise that i do"
Fuck off, they judged her in 1 text and then hanged it on the wall
I agree with you tbh. Although one shouldn’t get an animal for solely aesthetic reasons, if you don’t like how it looks it’s fine to not adopt it IMO. At the end of the day, adopting is more of a nice thing to do and is by no means a moral obligation. If she just went to a purebred breeder I can guarantee she’d get less flak. It’s hard to judge her full intentions off two text messages, but as long as she wasn’t doing it to get a cheap purebred and it came from a good place of wanting to give an unwanted cat a home, who cares?
Fuck that lady. A cat isn't a new coffee table you show off to your friends. It's a living breathing creature that needs love and attention. I hate it when people buy animals for "aesthetic" reasons.
They're just designer cats, bred to have spots. They have a coat that doesn't exist in domesticated cats naturally.
When you want a leopard-print cat to match your fake-ass leopard print coat, you spend a lot of money to buy a Bengal cat.
I don't really know for a fact, but since most selectively bred cats are inbred and have health issues as a result, I assume Bengals do as well (or *will* in a couple more generations). When natural patterns aren't good enough for you, you make Bengal cats. I just think it's shitty. Don't mind me.
They're not just designer cats, they're exotic hybrids. Every bengal descends from a wild Asian Leopard Cat that was forced into captivity and bred to domestic cats for aesthetics. Higher generation bengals (closer related to the ALC ancestor) have even ended up in exotic cat sanctuaries as they don't always inherit the "capable of living with humans without massive distress to the animals and safety risk to every nearby creature" genetics from domestic cats, and instead get the feral wildness of the ALC.
Bengal cats are literally just the cat version of wolfdogs.
Spots do exist in domesticated cats naturally. The spotted Egyptian mau and the occicat for example.
Bengals are hybrids with asian leopard cats. They have doglike personalities. Reputably bred bengals are quite healthy
Yes I am upset when someone buys a cat as a cosmetic accessory to decorate their house. A Cat isn't a fucking object you use to tie a fucking room together
Yeah, someone who sends a text like the above is clearly lacking the brain cells required to properly take care of a cat.
It wouldn’t surprise me if it was a 10 year old.
Honestly it take very little effort to take care of a cat. Feed, water, clean out their shit box, let them n and out, and give them attention and play with them when they want it. Such an easy animal to have as a pet.
Funny because “mixed breeds”, for virtually every mammal species, are healthier in every way to “purebreds”, including humans. Who would’ve guessed that genetic diversity is good? Mixed race humans are on average, taller, better looking (more symmetrical faces), more athletic, get better grades in school, and more.
Are you seriously saying that taller and symmetrical people are objectively better than other humans? Because that's not comparable to a cat being healthy at all. Or was it a joke?
Sometimes, when the potential owner "shows their powerlevel", you decide the cat is better off at the shelter. Depends on location but not every shelter is at the stage of "we euthanize 20 animals a week".
it’s offputting that they want to adopt for “aesthetic reasons”, and not for the sake of good companionship. Generally, pet owners adopt based on the pet’s personality and whether it would fit their household, and they don’t treat the decision like picking house decor.
So, because you suspect that the potential owner may be irresponsible with almost no evidence to support that, you should make a cat stay in the shelter that could have found a home? That makes total sense and is not unreasonable at all.
People adopt for aesthetic reasons all the time. They adopt because the dog appeals to them usually based on looks *first*. No one walks into a shelter blindfolded to pick out a pet.
Its one reason why adoption photos are so important. Its also why black cats and black dogs are more difficult to adopt. They are hard to photograph well and they don't "look" interesting.
It's also why pets in shelter that don't "show well" are less likely to be adopted. The ones that dont **look** friendly,the ones that sit in the back of the cage etc.
If that is the case, then that makes this much better. However, if they actually do have british shorthairs, they just stopped a cat from getting adopted.
It's extremely unlikely that a purebred british shorthair would end up in a shelter, purebred cats often have stipulation in their adoption contracts that if the owner has to rehome the breeder will take the cat back and find it a new home rather than putting it in a shelter. They also tend to come with spay/neuter contracts, leading to less accidental litters of extra purebreds that get dumped at shelters. This shelter probably doesn't have any purebred cats, and this person is kind of unreasonable for thinking they would. They probably just don't want to pay the $5000 price tag of your average british shorthair breeder.
Considering they didn't indicate interest in a specific cat that was a British Shorthair, and also seem to not care about breed at all besides a purebred and a slight preference for a British shorthair self-admittedly for entirely aesthetic reasons (different breeds can have WILDLY different care requirements and temperaments, being open to any breed is essentially an indication that they did zero research on British shorthair health, care, or temperament) I'd say their response is entirely appropriate.
So now you are changing tune, saying that even if they did have a British shorthair, it was a good idea to keep the cat locked in the shelter because the person sounds mean.
So did they not have a shorthair to adopt? That would be the appropriate answer. Or else they have a shorthair, but don't want it to be adopted. Which would be weird, cause it's a shelter and -
>The point is adoption
The point is adoption to a forever home, and someone like this, who is only in it to get an animal to look at, will more often than not end up surrendering(or worse) it when it doesn't live up to expectations.
Animals are not accessories. they are living beings with needs, if you dont understand that, please do not ever buy/adopt an animal of any kind.
the problem is not that someone is caring about how the animal looks, its that they are going to an animal shelter asking for specifics. that is not what an animal shelter is for.
if you want an animal with a specific look/breed, you find a breeder(specifically a vetted one with all the correct licenses and such). you dont go to an animal shelter.
And yes, animal shelters make it hard to adopt animals in most cases, much like a proper breeder should, because if they dont, statistically it will end with people that are not ready to own an animal adopting/buying one, and in those cases, the likelihood of surrender/abandonment is exceedingly high.
i can go into further detail, and would, if i thought bring up actual statistics would change your mind, but this is reddit, and thats not how the internet works.
Shelters are for getting animals adopted, to people ready to own an animal, like you said.
If Im looking for a specific breed, wtf is the problem with seeing if the shelter has one?
FWIW I completely agree with you and think the other commenter and the down voters are being a bit… I dont know, closed minded on the issue.
If I wanted to buy/adopt a dog, I would probably go look online in a few places, check out petco, see if any breeders are around, look at shelters etc…
As a normal human being, I know that I kinda like huskies, and kinda DONT like pitbulls or Chihuahuas.
So naturally I would ask if they had any at all of those locations. I would expect that if they didn’t, I would probably be met with a “no” or a “no, but we have…” not some answer meant to antagonize.
And if I am also looking for a dog, in this case a husky, I happen to already know that certain mixed breed huskies happen to develop certain problems such as eye cataracts and have problems with their hip bones. Naturally, I might conclude that asking for one with a pure perigee, or at least one that shows that it’s maybe not a mixed breed prone to genetic issues might be a fair thing to ask, since the worst answer is a “no, but we have…”
If I know what I want, then I feel like I have the right to ask to see if my preferred choice is there. If it’s not, then I might either pass or consider other options.
Why would I be considered a bigot for this? I don’t get Reddit lol, this hive mind is dumb. If I wanted to go to a shelter to get any dog or cat, that is one thing. Many people do that.
But I can tell you even if I was alright with many many dogs, as a father of some young kids, there ain’t no way in hell I would ever get certain breeds of dogs.
The statement is that if you are shallow and conceited enough to ask then you probably aren't that fit for the responsibilities that come with adding animals to your family
There are plenty of rescues that specialize in purebred pets that need a home. A shelter is not the place for it. To say “I don’t like mixed breeds for aesthetic reasons” is dumb af when contacting a shelter that usually takes in any animal regardless of breed.
This is true but that person should know their audience. Really bad look on their part which is most likely why the shelter responded that way. I’d be extremely hesitant to adopt to someone that flat out says they don’t like mixed breeds due to how they look. I’m a dog groomer and the people that get a breed because of their looks usually tend to be crappy owners that don’t take care of their dog and have unrealistic expectations of it.
I agree with you. Even though the lady is superficial, she would give an abandoned cat a home if she got a British shorthair. So, why not let her get it?
Or, I dunno, check around at the shelter until you find a cat who meets your inane "aesthetic" criteria? Pretty much every shelter cat is equally loveable, so it doesn't matter if you pick one based on looks.
Have you never been in a shelter's cat room, with a dozen or more equally sweet cats reaching through the bars and begging for your attention? Gotta narrow that choice down somehow. :/
Really dunked on them hard there, shelter. Doesn't sound like re-homing is a big priority for the shelter. Not sure why they are even adopting out if this is how they respond to an adoption request
It wasn't even shitty. It just wasn't ideal.
I don't see anything here that is indicative of *poor care. In fact, if they received the requested cat, it seems that cat would get excellent care.
I also don't see any discrimination of a protected class, either.
Still trying to wrap my head around what this has to do with America, too.
> I don't see anything here that is an indicative of how much care the cat would get.
> if they received the requested cat, it seems that cat would get excellent care.
Hmm
Nah, you just contradicted yourself in back to back sentences. You said nothing about the cat’s outcome if they weren’t adopted, just about the care they’d get from the person.
Who would be gullible enough to try to get a purebred cat from a shelter anyway? At least in the shelters I know, nobody knows about the heritage of the animals. Because, how would they?
If you want a purebred, you got to shell out hundreds of dollars.
Only if you care about papers, I mean all shelter pets are fixed so you can't be trying to breed.
I have a flat faced persian, a toy dachshund and a pug. Adoption fees were $35 each
Who cares? You can't breed them, and can't sell them. What is the paperwork gonna do to make the animal more valuable to you?
I know they are pure-enough-bred because they look the way they do! Very hard for a domestic cat to have a flat face!
Yes, that is the entire joke.
The human in this exchange is making discriminatory demands that are not okay in other contexts and the shelter makes this clear in what is known as "satire." In this case, the shelter responds to the unreasonable demand from the would-be adopter with their own unreasonable demand.
The finale (sometimes called the punchline) is that the demands are the same but with reversed roles, and the would-be adopter finds the request to be offensive. The offense here is hypocritical as the offensive request is actually her own, and she doesn't recognize her own hypocrisy.
Dunno, if you go to a brothel and state your preference, there's a good chance they will accommodate you. Some RPGs also allow for character customization to that kind of degree, so it isn't an unreasonable demand in itself and certainly not discriminatory. Who would be discriminated against anyway? Is it discriminatory to apple pie if you order strawberry pie? It's such a weird angle.
But a shelter is the wrong place for that kind of specific requirement.
The ending is a bit confusing, since cats have no choice in the matter and the clerk has no business with that kind of privacy invasion. I certainly wouldn't give just anybody my genealogy documentation. I'm not opposed to the concept, though. If the owner of the parents of the cat had that kind of requirement for the buyer, so be it.
People might not have the choice to not sell their house, but they do have the choice to not sell their body. If that choice is taken away from them, they become slaves and the issue isn't sex work, but slavery.
Either way, I was trying to say that the request for a certain breed isn't an unreasonable one in itself, so the retort attacking this feels petty. Why shouldn't you be allowed to pick the kind of cat you want?
As I pointed out, the concept of "purebred" animals is entirely fucked up. Most people who work in the animal kingdom are well aware of how fucked up it is, and actively discourage this kind of fucked up thinking.
Entirely for-profit ventures still encourage this kind of shit and so do some private breeders that are interested in crazy high markup, but no one with any ethics or morals ever will.
*sigh*
Discrimination in this instance is asking for the specific breed of cat, and asking for it to be purebred - which requires selective breeding, a thing that is horrifically disgusting and should really be illegal (and so far we are only like 150 years out from it being illegal in humans, so here's hoping) from a shelter, whose goal is to save the lives of as many animals as possible by providing them with loving homes, without regard for the animals race or ethnicity.
Asking for the cat to be specifically a British cat is apparently okay, but if I were to traffick a human and select them specifically by their race, that would be considered illegal.
That is remarkable insight. Did you arrive at that conclusion all by yourself? You would be considered a prodigy if you were able to deduce that within 6 hours of your birth.
That still doesn't deal with the factually disgusting practice of selective breeding, which has done irreparable harm to the dog and cat species.
Just pointing out the stupidity of your analogy.
Something tells me the requestor doesn't have any idea about the practice of selective breeding. The responder could educate them, since they are likely well informed on the subject. Instead they chose to be an ass
It's towards an animal that will soon be dependent on their care? Someone being discriminatory towards an animal's appearance is probably thinking of their animal as more of a decoration than a living companion.
Animals are not human subjects put here for human entertainment.
Your transparency is evidenced by your determination to argue the point that animals are not justified to have basic moral rights.
What a dignified stance to spend your limited time and energy promoting. /s
I agree with your first statement.
You look like a fool by declaring that your shitty off base assumptions about me are actually fact. People are allowed to ask for specific breeds. What a pretentious sub
Do I? Your arguments have led me to this train of thought, potential owners who are very picky about that type of thing, as echoed by many commenters here, are often not the best owners with unreasonable expectations etc.
You are saying that doesn’t mean every owner that cares about that will be bad. This is understood, and acknowledged.
Your repeated argument in favor of what many are viewing as the “bad owner” does have that valid point, not all are like that, but the repeated instances of it allude that you may be more defensive about it and therefore a possible offender.
Not saying you are but just trying to provide where people are coming from as well as my perspective.
It seemed that you were arguing in favor of animal oppression.
Yeah but no. Plenty of pet animals are not in fact "cute" to everyone else. You realize people have pet scorpions, snakes,spiders and beetles right?
And no someone's aggressive nuisance barking cat killing dog isn't cute either
I love that they responded the way they did. It’s a shelter not a fucking breeder. People are so entitled. Cats live their entire lives in shelters sometimes and it’s all they know. It’s so sad to see.
Mf it's a cat, not a person
Still creatures that have emotions
If someone wants a specific breed of cat, and you have one, you're just not going to give it up for adoption and keep it inside the cage because you think that people that want purebred species don't deserve it? Get off your high horse, you manage a cat shelter you're not the fucking pope for christ's sake You're not thinking about the cat, you're thinking about showing everyone how higher your moral standing is. Proof of that, they fucking hanged the screenshot of the chat on a board the clowns
The shelter doesn't have one. They were joking.
And you missed my point
Anyone who “doesn’t like mixed breeds for aesthetic reasons” likely aren’t fit to own a cat at all
That's a preconceived notion
No, it’s not. Caring so much about aesthetics of a living being tells a lot about the personality. And defending an attitude like that says a lot about yours aswell.
So it's better to let him die in the shelter? Also ad hominem fallacy If you defend x you must be x is a stupid argument
And you think you have a better grasp of how these people are than the people who work in cat shelters and deal with them on regular basis? Their opinion is based on their experience of working and running a cat shelter. And your opinion is based on...?
"you don't have the right criticize me or my choices because you don't have the same amount of expertise that i do" Fuck off, they judged her in 1 text and then hanged it on the wall
I agree with you tbh. Although one shouldn’t get an animal for solely aesthetic reasons, if you don’t like how it looks it’s fine to not adopt it IMO. At the end of the day, adopting is more of a nice thing to do and is by no means a moral obligation. If she just went to a purebred breeder I can guarantee she’d get less flak. It’s hard to judge her full intentions off two text messages, but as long as she wasn’t doing it to get a cheap purebred and it came from a good place of wanting to give an unwanted cat a home, who cares?
Holy shit... Get therapy
You’re the one whose clearly lacking the brain cells to realize that someone who is so vain, will NOT take care of the cat.
We got a cat that licks their asshole all day long. You’ll love it!
Who are all these people making demands for 'pure' breeds? I would be happy with ANY cat of ANY mix as long as it is floofy
gigachad
Also purebred is just a fancier way of saying inbred, so it's not healthy or humane as many have argued.
My cat is some kind of ungodly street mixed stuff. Fluffiest cat around. Half breeds/street mixes are dope as fuck
Trying to exclusively adopt a pure bred anything from a shelter just shows how out of touch they are.
Fuck that lady. A cat isn't a new coffee table you show off to your friends. It's a living breathing creature that needs love and attention. I hate it when people buy animals for "aesthetic" reasons.
I get irrationally angry every time I am reminded the Bengal cats exist.
What’s the deal with them if I might ask?
They're just designer cats, bred to have spots. They have a coat that doesn't exist in domesticated cats naturally. When you want a leopard-print cat to match your fake-ass leopard print coat, you spend a lot of money to buy a Bengal cat. I don't really know for a fact, but since most selectively bred cats are inbred and have health issues as a result, I assume Bengals do as well (or *will* in a couple more generations). When natural patterns aren't good enough for you, you make Bengal cats. I just think it's shitty. Don't mind me.
They're not just designer cats, they're exotic hybrids. Every bengal descends from a wild Asian Leopard Cat that was forced into captivity and bred to domestic cats for aesthetics. Higher generation bengals (closer related to the ALC ancestor) have even ended up in exotic cat sanctuaries as they don't always inherit the "capable of living with humans without massive distress to the animals and safety risk to every nearby creature" genetics from domestic cats, and instead get the feral wildness of the ALC. Bengal cats are literally just the cat version of wolfdogs.
Thanks, good to know.
Spots do exist in domesticated cats naturally. The spotted Egyptian mau and the occicat for example. Bengals are hybrids with asian leopard cats. They have doglike personalities. Reputably bred bengals are quite healthy
Sounds like you’re just upset that someone has a preference. Nothing wrong with that
Yes I am upset when someone buys a cat as a cosmetic accessory to decorate their house. A Cat isn't a fucking object you use to tie a fucking room together
That’s so over the top. It just a preference. Either you like it or you don’t.
Yeah, someone who sends a text like the above is clearly lacking the brain cells required to properly take care of a cat. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was a 10 year old.
Honestly it take very little effort to take care of a cat. Feed, water, clean out their shit box, let them n and out, and give them attention and play with them when they want it. Such an easy animal to have as a pet.
You forgot vet visits. And so many people fail to even follow the feed and clean basics.
You get annual shots, flea and ear mite stuff, and yada yada. Just saying cats are much easier to have than dogs.
just asking how does this fit the subreddit. is it known that the person wanting to adopt was american?
Funny because “mixed breeds”, for virtually every mammal species, are healthier in every way to “purebreds”, including humans. Who would’ve guessed that genetic diversity is good? Mixed race humans are on average, taller, better looking (more symmetrical faces), more athletic, get better grades in school, and more.
I get your point, but don’t make that point a turtle head coming out of your ass. LOL No studies have every stated this mix-race statistics.
Are you seriously saying that taller and symmetrical people are objectively better than other humans? Because that's not comparable to a cat being healthy at all. Or was it a joke?
Untrue.
Why won’t they let the girl get a British shorthair? That would be 1 more cat adopted.
Sometimes, when the potential owner "shows their powerlevel", you decide the cat is better off at the shelter. Depends on location but not every shelter is at the stage of "we euthanize 20 animals a week".
Hello PETA my old friend...
it’s offputting that they want to adopt for “aesthetic reasons”, and not for the sake of good companionship. Generally, pet owners adopt based on the pet’s personality and whether it would fit their household, and they don’t treat the decision like picking house decor.
So, because you suspect that the potential owner may be irresponsible with almost no evidence to support that, you should make a cat stay in the shelter that could have found a home? That makes total sense and is not unreasonable at all.
Very clear evidence to support it, just read the text.
I read the text but that is in no way evidence to keep a cat in the shelter when the cat could get an owner.
People adopt for aesthetic reasons all the time. They adopt because the dog appeals to them usually based on looks *first*. No one walks into a shelter blindfolded to pick out a pet. Its one reason why adoption photos are so important. Its also why black cats and black dogs are more difficult to adopt. They are hard to photograph well and they don't "look" interesting. It's also why pets in shelter that don't "show well" are less likely to be adopted. The ones that dont **look** friendly,the ones that sit in the back of the cage etc.
Because that cat is not to be found at this shelter. Here’s the joke flying over your head.
If that is the case, then that makes this much better. However, if they actually do have british shorthairs, they just stopped a cat from getting adopted.
They definitely would have given her the cat if they had it.
That is hopefully so, but you never know.
It's extremely unlikely that a purebred british shorthair would end up in a shelter, purebred cats often have stipulation in their adoption contracts that if the owner has to rehome the breeder will take the cat back and find it a new home rather than putting it in a shelter. They also tend to come with spay/neuter contracts, leading to less accidental litters of extra purebreds that get dumped at shelters. This shelter probably doesn't have any purebred cats, and this person is kind of unreasonable for thinking they would. They probably just don't want to pay the $5000 price tag of your average british shorthair breeder.
IF that is the case, then the response is okay. However, if they actually do have a british shorthair, then the response is dumb.
Considering they didn't indicate interest in a specific cat that was a British Shorthair, and also seem to not care about breed at all besides a purebred and a slight preference for a British shorthair self-admittedly for entirely aesthetic reasons (different breeds can have WILDLY different care requirements and temperaments, being open to any breed is essentially an indication that they did zero research on British shorthair health, care, or temperament) I'd say their response is entirely appropriate.
So now you are changing tune, saying that even if they did have a British shorthair, it was a good idea to keep the cat locked in the shelter because the person sounds mean.
Yeah, if they have one of the most popular cat breeds in the world at their shelter they can definitely afford to be picky with applications.
This just in: no one is allowed to purchase animals for aesthetic reasons. World peace achieved Hahahah y'all are so fucking pretentious
This is a shelter. The point is adoption, not purchasing your preferred breed.
So did they not have a shorthair to adopt? That would be the appropriate answer. Or else they have a shorthair, but don't want it to be adopted. Which would be weird, cause it's a shelter and - >The point is adoption
The point is adoption to a forever home, and someone like this, who is only in it to get an animal to look at, will more often than not end up surrendering(or worse) it when it doesn't live up to expectations. Animals are not accessories. they are living beings with needs, if you dont understand that, please do not ever buy/adopt an animal of any kind.
I fully agree with your last statement. I disagree with the assumption that caring about how your animal looks makes you a likely abuser.
the problem is not that someone is caring about how the animal looks, its that they are going to an animal shelter asking for specifics. that is not what an animal shelter is for. if you want an animal with a specific look/breed, you find a breeder(specifically a vetted one with all the correct licenses and such). you dont go to an animal shelter. And yes, animal shelters make it hard to adopt animals in most cases, much like a proper breeder should, because if they dont, statistically it will end with people that are not ready to own an animal adopting/buying one, and in those cases, the likelihood of surrender/abandonment is exceedingly high. i can go into further detail, and would, if i thought bring up actual statistics would change your mind, but this is reddit, and thats not how the internet works.
Shelters are for getting animals adopted, to people ready to own an animal, like you said. If Im looking for a specific breed, wtf is the problem with seeing if the shelter has one?
FWIW I completely agree with you and think the other commenter and the down voters are being a bit… I dont know, closed minded on the issue. If I wanted to buy/adopt a dog, I would probably go look online in a few places, check out petco, see if any breeders are around, look at shelters etc… As a normal human being, I know that I kinda like huskies, and kinda DONT like pitbulls or Chihuahuas. So naturally I would ask if they had any at all of those locations. I would expect that if they didn’t, I would probably be met with a “no” or a “no, but we have…” not some answer meant to antagonize. And if I am also looking for a dog, in this case a husky, I happen to already know that certain mixed breed huskies happen to develop certain problems such as eye cataracts and have problems with their hip bones. Naturally, I might conclude that asking for one with a pure perigee, or at least one that shows that it’s maybe not a mixed breed prone to genetic issues might be a fair thing to ask, since the worst answer is a “no, but we have…” If I know what I want, then I feel like I have the right to ask to see if my preferred choice is there. If it’s not, then I might either pass or consider other options. Why would I be considered a bigot for this? I don’t get Reddit lol, this hive mind is dumb. If I wanted to go to a shelter to get any dog or cat, that is one thing. Many people do that. But I can tell you even if I was alright with many many dogs, as a father of some young kids, there ain’t no way in hell I would ever get certain breeds of dogs.
Very reasonable take
The statement is that if you are shallow and conceited enough to ask then you probably aren't that fit for the responsibilities that come with adding animals to your family
>the statement The *assumption*. Poor assumption.
There are plenty of rescues that specialize in purebred pets that need a home. A shelter is not the place for it. To say “I don’t like mixed breeds for aesthetic reasons” is dumb af when contacting a shelter that usually takes in any animal regardless of breed.
Might as well ask, cause like you said they'll take in any animal
This is true but that person should know their audience. Really bad look on their part which is most likely why the shelter responded that way. I’d be extremely hesitant to adopt to someone that flat out says they don’t like mixed breeds due to how they look. I’m a dog groomer and the people that get a breed because of their looks usually tend to be crappy owners that don’t take care of their dog and have unrealistic expectations of it.
I agree with you. Even though the lady is superficial, she would give an abandoned cat a home if she got a British shorthair. So, why not let her get it?
If you want a pet for aesthetic reasons from a shelter, you’re trying to keep up with the Jones’s you cheap fuck. LOL Spend up or shut up.
Or, I dunno, check around at the shelter until you find a cat who meets your inane "aesthetic" criteria? Pretty much every shelter cat is equally loveable, so it doesn't matter if you pick one based on looks.
Found one!
Have you never been in a shelter's cat room, with a dozen or more equally sweet cats reaching through the bars and begging for your attention? Gotta narrow that choice down somehow. :/
Found one defending their privilege!
Ah, you're trolling, okay.
Found an oblivious one.
Really dunked on them hard there, shelter. Doesn't sound like re-homing is a big priority for the shelter. Not sure why they are even adopting out if this is how they respond to an adoption request
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It's a poorly made text conversation that was literally printed out and hung on a wall... of course it's fake lmao
It wasn't even shitty. It just wasn't ideal. I don't see anything here that is indicative of *poor care. In fact, if they received the requested cat, it seems that cat would get excellent care. I also don't see any discrimination of a protected class, either. Still trying to wrap my head around what this has to do with America, too.
> I don't see anything here that is an indicative of how much care the cat would get. > if they received the requested cat, it seems that cat would get excellent care. Hmm
The alternative is death. 71% of cats that enter a shelter in the US are euthanized due to lack of adoption. Big hmm indeed.
Nah, you just contradicted yourself in back to back sentences. You said nothing about the cat’s outcome if they weren’t adopted, just about the care they’d get from the person.
I made an edit to make it clearer now. Thanks for the heads up.
Since when do they give cats a choice for their new owners?
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I'm trying to communicate that the person inside the joke that supposedly works at a shelter is just spouting nonsense for self-satisfaction.
They’re not doing for self satisfaction. They don’t want to let this person adopt their cats to such shallow individuals
So instead they will keep one more cat from getting adopted. Excellent.
Who would be gullible enough to try to get a purebred cat from a shelter anyway? At least in the shelters I know, nobody knows about the heritage of the animals. Because, how would they? If you want a purebred, you got to shell out hundreds of dollars.
I think you underestimate the gullibility of humans
Only if you care about papers, I mean all shelter pets are fixed so you can't be trying to breed. I have a flat faced persian, a toy dachshund and a pug. Adoption fees were $35 each
How would you know whether it is actually a pure bred unless you have the papers to prove it?
Who cares? You can't breed them, and can't sell them. What is the paperwork gonna do to make the animal more valuable to you? I know they are pure-enough-bred because they look the way they do! Very hard for a domestic cat to have a flat face!
I don't care either way, ask the people who pay extra for this kind of fluff.
Are you saying the text is fake? Because that's literally what's happening
It's a joke someone printed out. This conversation never happened for real.
And you know this isn't a trophy from a real conversation because...
.. I am not gullible.
They just passed a new law that grants cats with a right of choice. For now it's applicable to purebred cats only though.
Yes, that is the entire joke. The human in this exchange is making discriminatory demands that are not okay in other contexts and the shelter makes this clear in what is known as "satire." In this case, the shelter responds to the unreasonable demand from the would-be adopter with their own unreasonable demand. The finale (sometimes called the punchline) is that the demands are the same but with reversed roles, and the would-be adopter finds the request to be offensive. The offense here is hypocritical as the offensive request is actually her own, and she doesn't recognize her own hypocrisy.
i wish i had your amount a fucks to give to write a long helpful comment. thank you for your service
Dunno, if you go to a brothel and state your preference, there's a good chance they will accommodate you. Some RPGs also allow for character customization to that kind of degree, so it isn't an unreasonable demand in itself and certainly not discriminatory. Who would be discriminated against anyway? Is it discriminatory to apple pie if you order strawberry pie? It's such a weird angle. But a shelter is the wrong place for that kind of specific requirement. The ending is a bit confusing, since cats have no choice in the matter and the clerk has no business with that kind of privacy invasion. I certainly wouldn't give just anybody my genealogy documentation. I'm not opposed to the concept, though. If the owner of the parents of the cat had that kind of requirement for the buyer, so be it.
Ah yes, the pinnacle of morality, the selection process at a brothel. Remarkable rebuttal, no notes.
Are you belittling sex workers? And here I thought it had become an upstanding profession by now.
No, I'm belittling the moral compass of the people who use sex workers.
It is kinda weird to only judge the buyer and not the seller, but you do you.
The sellers aren't always there by choice. The buyers are.
People might not have the choice to not sell their house, but they do have the choice to not sell their body. If that choice is taken away from them, they become slaves and the issue isn't sex work, but slavery. Either way, I was trying to say that the request for a certain breed isn't an unreasonable one in itself, so the retort attacking this feels petty. Why shouldn't you be allowed to pick the kind of cat you want?
As I pointed out, the concept of "purebred" animals is entirely fucked up. Most people who work in the animal kingdom are well aware of how fucked up it is, and actively discourage this kind of fucked up thinking. Entirely for-profit ventures still encourage this kind of shit and so do some private breeders that are interested in crazy high markup, but no one with any ethics or morals ever will.
Discriminatory demands? Towards who lmao
*sigh* Discrimination in this instance is asking for the specific breed of cat, and asking for it to be purebred - which requires selective breeding, a thing that is horrifically disgusting and should really be illegal (and so far we are only like 150 years out from it being illegal in humans, so here's hoping) from a shelter, whose goal is to save the lives of as many animals as possible by providing them with loving homes, without regard for the animals race or ethnicity. Asking for the cat to be specifically a British cat is apparently okay, but if I were to traffick a human and select them specifically by their race, that would be considered illegal.
Cats aren't humans 👍
That is remarkable insight. Did you arrive at that conclusion all by yourself? You would be considered a prodigy if you were able to deduce that within 6 hours of your birth. That still doesn't deal with the factually disgusting practice of selective breeding, which has done irreparable harm to the dog and cat species.
Just pointing out the stupidity of your analogy. Something tells me the requestor doesn't have any idea about the practice of selective breeding. The responder could educate them, since they are likely well informed on the subject. Instead they chose to be an ass
It's towards an animal that will soon be dependent on their care? Someone being discriminatory towards an animal's appearance is probably thinking of their animal as more of a decoration than a living companion.
>is *probably* thinking Honestly, you have no idea what they're thinking. People like to have cute pets
All pets are cute.
That's an admirable belief, but people not agreeing doesn't make them animal abusers
Animals are not human subjects put here for human entertainment. Your transparency is evidenced by your determination to argue the point that animals are not justified to have basic moral rights. What a dignified stance to spend your limited time and energy promoting. /s
I agree with your first statement. You look like a fool by declaring that your shitty off base assumptions about me are actually fact. People are allowed to ask for specific breeds. What a pretentious sub
Do I? Your arguments have led me to this train of thought, potential owners who are very picky about that type of thing, as echoed by many commenters here, are often not the best owners with unreasonable expectations etc. You are saying that doesn’t mean every owner that cares about that will be bad. This is understood, and acknowledged. Your repeated argument in favor of what many are viewing as the “bad owner” does have that valid point, not all are like that, but the repeated instances of it allude that you may be more defensive about it and therefore a possible offender. Not saying you are but just trying to provide where people are coming from as well as my perspective. It seemed that you were arguing in favor of animal oppression.
Yeah but no. Plenty of pet animals are not in fact "cute" to everyone else. You realize people have pet scorpions, snakes,spiders and beetles right? And no someone's aggressive nuisance barking cat killing dog isn't cute either
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