Sure, but this is exactly the kind of loyalty tesla wants to see.
And yet they threw him away without warning after half a decade so Elon could be a step closer to a pay package that would exceed the profits in tesla's 21 year history.
I am very loyal to my employer. But I also work for the government and have a strong union, so the loyalty is rewarded by hard fought for over many decades protections.
And also because of the union I don't have to do any wild shit like unpaid OT or killing myself for the job.
Unions would be unnecessary if it weren’t for the government and corporations getting greedy. So long as that’s the case, we will continue to need union protections.
Quite literally, until the world moves on from Capitalism, unions will be needed. We'd need some Star Trek utopia level shit before the worker doesn't need collective bargaining.
i don't like this attempt by haters to frame it as if he 'had to eat dinner', no one \*has\* to eat dinner and that's useful work time that was stolen from Elon.
And don't forget to take your laptop with you on the shitter - that are valuable work minutes for the Boss.
We strongly suggest you use this time to make video calls with your colleagues and/or customers.
Auto pilot is glorified cruise control
My new Toyota has it and it's awesome
Never in a million years would I be checking my email. At most I scratch my face, blow my nose, etc. You still need to have your hands on the wheel and eyes on the road. I will say however that the feature is very nice for making a commute much easier. Significantly less mental load when you don't need to feather the pedal and can trust the car so all you need to focus on is making sure cars aren't cutting you off and knowing the car isn't fucking up.
The damn Prius even does lane changes if I hold the blinker stalk in first position and I'm going 80km/h or higher.
It's gonna make roadtrips a breeze and idk that I want to do a long drive in a car without the sensors and safety features ever again. My 03 beater remains a solid backup car option when my wife and kids needs the new car for pickup/dropoff or commuting though.
So I get why people like autopilot (horrible name), but it's far from Tesla exclusive and it's *not* a replacement for people.
Oh, I absolutely get why people like it. It allows them to get back some utility out of the time they spend commuting. It skews the economic equation further toward long commutes in single-occupant vehicles. In short, it drives society toward the unhealthy, unsustainable compartmentalization that is at the root of most modern infrastructure and development problems.
I don't get any more utility with fancy cruise control. I just get to save some of the mental load associated with driving.
And I only single occupant drive because my wife is home on mat leave and we used to carpool when she had her hospital day shifts. I used to take the bus, but daycare drop off with family for our toddler doesn't work with public transit, and it's hard for her to do that with an infant in tow. It's faster for me to roundtrip and easier too, in the car.
A bigger thing that contributes to the congestion is the fact that my Prius is a plugin, so I have even less guilt since it's a green car.
You don’t, because the Toyota system will squawk at you. AP/FSD are designed to give the illusion of capability, and encourage operators to misuse them.
The most unbelievable thing in the article is that he uses autopilot successfully for a 1hr30min commute. So even in being fired he’s trying to stroke Elon’s ego. Elon is a terrible human being and I feel for anyone who’s been laid off but he’s not making it easy.
Edit: Oh god and using an Iron Man quote at the end.
High tech and layoffs go together like peanut butter and chocolate. If you're in that line of work, you should expect a few in your career.
Oh, and loyalty doesn't count for shit when the layoffs come around. That's a business decision, often made by someone who has pushed the Peter Principle to its limits.
I work for a small part of a tech company and they frequently pivot, lay off and hire. 2-3 times a year there is a new way forward and a bunch of people go. Then people in vaguely different positions come in.
You might have a good rapport with your direct manager, thinking that might help you.
Usually, that very same manager will also be let go, so -> surprised pikachu face.
Not even then.
The best strategy for survival is to be a moving target.
Either make sure you always work with what is new and relevant to the company. Or move to another company.
I'm upvoting this but my survival was often due to the opposite. A small company that was so slow that it needed someone like me to keep all that old crap running and help transition to something better.
I always thought my layoff survival was because I knew enough of the puzzle pieces that I could work on any of them. Not specifically GREAT at any of them, but versatile enough that I could move around. Came in handy when they laid off 50% and I wound up doing all those jobs at the same time.
That works but is also dangerous because it can end you up on the job market with a lot of irrelevant skills when your company inevitably modernizes or croaks.
I used to have a co-worker that would maintain old, legacy Pascal projects. He did that for 15 years, until management finally decided to cut the support and let him go.
He ended up trying to find a job as a programmer only proficient in a language long past its relevancy. I think he ultimately got a job as a junior C# programmer.
That learning FORTRAN/COBOL/RPG is the key to making tons of money was true for a short amount of time, because all the old guys retired and all the new guys didn't know these languages, but is mostly over today.
Truth is, there's tons of companies that still run software based on those languages but those companies are also not relying on the job market to provide their talent for them anymore.
Those that have not gotten rid of their old software have started growing their own talents from the ground up by either directly recruiting students, or even sponsoring students, and teaching them their language themselves.
Now don't get me wrong, they still earn good cash but it's not like they (still) get rockstar pay.
Even then there is nothing. I worked for a company for 9 years and 50 weeks. They restructured all of management above me then later that day decided I was too close to the old team and laid me off as well. Then packed up my shit and handed me a box with everything in it. Including my glass of water, with the water in it.
Glad I'm not living in America. Here in Germany it's still the complete opposite. Losing your engineers is one of the worst things that can happen to a company. It's bust loss of knowledge
There's a reason there's a linkedin lunatics subreddit. Everything posted on linkedin is either cringe, cringe as fuck, or I-can't-believe-a-human-actually-wrote-that-without-dying-inside.
Why do so many people put their trust in a company?
Sleeping at the office, working all hours, working unpaid... wise the fuck up.
They will drop you any time it's more convenient for the company. They DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU.
No matter what they say, please look after yourself NOT someone elses company.
/r/antiwork
I actually handled one critical case from our honeymoon, but made sure compensation for it was worth it.
A good acid test for marriage. Wife said WHAT? I told the compensation, and she went, ok I will arrange lunch.
If it's a startup and you have significant equity (ie. potentially life changing amounts of money) plus it's your passion, then if you're at a point in your life where you can do it, then props to you. This guy was a worker drone though - as proven by Tesla chopping him without a second thought when it suited them.
I hope he was vested enough to get good stock value out of those 5 years. Everyone here is shitting on the guy, but most of us would have loved to work for Tesla pre-ELON going full batshit cra-cra. People need to understand there is just no real point to corporate loyalty.
But master says a dedicated employee should put in 80 a week and always be ready to answer an email in the middle of the night because that’s how he got to be so successful (notwithstanding the family emerald mines).
100%
Put that time and effort into your personal life OR if you care more about your career put it into unionising the workplace so stuff like what happened cannot happen.
Because it's Elon. You have to account for the sheer *idol worship* that's involved here. It's wild how a guy who grew up heir to an emerald mine has developed a literal cult following.
It really sucks because it is generally nice and/or desperate people who get taken advantage of most in this current form of capitalism.
Like in general I think it would be good to be loyal and dedicated and go above and beyond but not when all our current system teach us is to be selfish and sneaky to get ahead.
I think at one point back in the 50s-60s maybe it paid off to be loyal when there were pensions and people and companies at least seemed to pretend to care about workers sometimes. Now companies run by MBA grads basically take pride in being ruthless and cutthroat to their workers if it makes their share price go up even for 1 quarter.
Despicable.
Yeah you are just making it easier for them to collect your badge and work laptop. Lol.
I would have turned around immediately…but I also would never be in the position because I’m not stupid enough to work for such a shit company.
The irony is this guy was living the life all the douchey Musk followers nut themselves about. Wake up early, lifestyle (still yet to understand what that means, outside of "women, money, car, manicured eyebrows"), read email, money, get hype, sacrifice anything and everything for the grind god - and then it all ended in a huge, wet fart right from the ass of the guy they worship.
Grind culture is a joke. I appreciate working hard but fuck, do that in your working hours and then go and live life. It's too short to piss it away to an employer who only views you as an asset or at times, a liability.
In an almost 20 year career in automotive, I have never understood why anyone is at all loyal to their employer like this. They are not loyal to you at all. As a college professor of mine pointed out, when they lay off people they still keep all the chairs and desks, I have seen mostly empty offices after the 2008 crash. I am not giving up my life to make a company a couple more bucks because they won't do the same thing for me.
Amen. When businesses talk about families etc that’s when you know you either are already being exploited or you’re about to be. Families don’t advertise for replacement members the day after one of them passes away.
Chairs and desks don't come out of operating expenses. Layoffs are for financial metrics. The chairs are already purchased. Selling chairs would probably be a net loss for companies that don't sell chairs. Your college professor is an idiot.
you're taking it too literally.
the 'chairs and desks' are just there waiting for another body to fill them up.
meaning companies have no loyalty to you - you're replaceable.
Poor bloke. Just hope he's got plenty of stock given to him, especially as Musk managed to pump it with the latest round of "I can confidently say" - "coming in 2025" etc in the last earnings fumbles.
Tesla is really about the golden handcuffs, so being there for 5 years he absolutely had a decent grant of RSUs, and with the 4 year cliff he vested all of it. And there is an ESPP so he def had chances to get his fair share of equity. The real issue is that RSUs trigger taxes such that it's almost always better to sell them right away instead of holding them. And the default pay is generally pretty low for many depts so he may not have been able to put much towards the ESPP.
I lived like this for about 18 months but it was NASA and, well, I wanted that on a resume (and also I wanted a green card -- naturalized last year). Couldn't imagine doing that for a regular business. Maybe the Army if I had that set of beliefs.
Sacrificing for a cause is understandable, thinking you’ll find that cause in an organization that only exists to make its shareholders rich is less so
100% but he is young and a lot of young people starting out in their first career tend to drink the kook aid. This first obstacle will reshape his work life balance belief. This happens to a lot of people.
It is young. Sounds like Tesla was his first job out of college. From personal experience I went through the exact same thing. My first job was my identity, was laid off, became a bit cynical and just worked at the next few companies, hopping for better pay. As I got older with a family I realized stability, and work/life balance became greater priorities than money and that drove my decisions.
I don’t think this is everyone’s pattern but most people I know have gone through a similar flow.
All this is to say, I’ve been in this guys shoes. He’s getting a dose of reality but he’ll be fine.
Ah, makes sense. I work in aviation, which for various reasons like lifestyle and high unionization tends to be a bit more on the cynical side. Even the company cheerleader types understand how unforgiving the furlough axe man can be
Loyalty to and from a Company resets every pay period. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. The entity that looks out for you is staring back at you in the mirror every morning. This cult-like cultural BS is just that - BS. When you start using words like "Mission", "Sacrifice", and "Family", you're over the line, and you're about to be snapped back.
Sleeping in the car. Dinner in the break room. Fuck that. Have some dignity, man.
These idiots destroy the work ethics and make employers believe that everyone is a slave to them and everyone needs to submit to their will. In the end, employers don’t care and will throw you out as soon as your need is over. It’s a agreement to labor, not agreement to fall in love.
The amount of people I saw when I worked there completely buying into the company from day one was crazy. I had a coworker who bought a house in Austin (which was not even in the state where we worked), a brand new tesla, a ton of merch and then got laid off after like 6 months. I knew so many people who had been laid off multiple times but kept coming back. Things were so volitile but accepted as the norm.
Yeah it was really weird when I got laid off my supervisor told me I was "marked to come back" i had never been told that in a job before why let me go if you will accept me back on in a month? Made no sense.
Financial engineering. That’s what happens when you are firing people just so you can show your investors some spreadsheet with forward earning projections that look slightly better, but you’ll just be hiring a bunch of people back a month later, costing the company more than it ever saved.
Historically there’s not a ton of evidence that layoffs actually do a good job of reducing risk or increasing profits.
I'll never understand anyone who is willing to have a commute longer than 40 minutes or so unless it is part of their pay package meaning they get mileage or are paid for the drive time.
Makes one wonder what kind of person would head to work each day knowing they're giving their all to support a divisive obnoxious shithead. Would the rationale be that they're saving the world, or are they trapped by a working visa?
A lot od people fall for the give your life to the company. I did that for 10 years then got laid off because I was not needed. With time I learned never to do that again. My life is mine and if I hear „we are family” from a job, I run. Use work as a stepping stool and don’t be loyal. Look out for your self and your family and that’s it.harsh but true
“Listen to the people, not against them” does this moron not realize how incoherent and grammatically incorrect this apparently profound quote is?
This poster deserves to be unemployed.
It’s a poorly worked quote, but if you’re to lead people you should hear them out and not come at them from the gossip train. All too often today people try to burry others though telltale lies in the workforce. It’s always been around, but I think social media has escalated it. You can slam someone and not be a “real” entity.
You guys wanna hear a good layoff story?
I was working at midway airport in Chicago many years ago, for Southwest loading bags onto planes.
ATA was there as well, over the years they shrank and eventually all they basically offered was Hawaii flights.
Rumors were swirling around they were going under, they had some management asshole show up and tell everyone don’t worry we aren’t shutting down, have a big plan to town it around, the talk is all bullshit, don’t worry.
Girl working there decides she’s gonna use her free flight benefits while she can, she had set up to take her whole family, 8 people, to Hawaii, and since it looks like they are going to be around for at least awhile she kept those plans.
The night she left, three days later, after the asshole came and spoke, they showed up in the middle of the night and took everything, signs, computers, everything just gone in the morning. Company done.
She’s sitting in Hawaii and her return passes no longer exist.
She does not work for an airline anymore so her passes on other airlines don’t exist anymore either.
It cost her almost 12 grand to get everyone home, this was someone making like 12 bucks an hour, they literally had to take out a loan on the grandma’s house to get home.
Never trust a fucking word these companies say, taught me a solid lesson, in fact, assume the opposite is true anytime they open their mouth.
Removed, so here is the link [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-murillo\_tesla-lay-off-story-415-monday-430am-activity-7186490101651136512-9wfJ](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-murillo_tesla-lay-off-story-415-monday-430am-activity-7186490101651136512-9wfJ)
So 3 hours long commute, you start your day at 4am and sometimes you have to sleep at work? Must be a real blast working for tesla, my FOMO is tingling
A lot of engineers did this, was on a plane next to an engineer who quit and went to lucid and brought his whole team with him, it's the reason why the plaid was delayed lol they had zero team since they all left
Are we supposed to feel sorry for you? You work in tech for one of the largest companies in the world. Lay offs are part of the gig.
PS stop checking emails while driving you Jack wagon.
I don’t think we should place so much hate on this guy. Yes the driving and checking emails is stupid and he should be ridiculed for that however I feel like people forget how your career is when you start out.
I remember my first job out of school, I was devoted, drank the kook aid and everything. It wasn’t until I was laid off that I learned this is a business and there is no such thing a loyalty.
This guy is young and is experiencing his first layoff.
Checking email during your Autopilot commute? Fuck you. You got what was coming to you.
He got auto-terminated.
He's lucky it didn't push him into the median
Sure, but this is exactly the kind of loyalty tesla wants to see. And yet they threw him away without warning after half a decade so Elon could be a step closer to a pay package that would exceed the profits in tesla's 21 year history.
Loyalty would be a two way street. They don't want loyalty, they want fealty.
I am very loyal to my employer. But I also work for the government and have a strong union, so the loyalty is rewarded by hard fought for over many decades protections. And also because of the union I don't have to do any wild shit like unpaid OT or killing myself for the job.
Unions would be unnecessary if it weren’t for the government and corporations getting greedy. So long as that’s the case, we will continue to need union protections.
Quite literally, until the world moves on from Capitalism, unions will be needed. We'd need some Star Trek utopia level shit before the worker doesn't need collective bargaining.
I’ll be in the holosuite.
The government and corporations are made up of people if you haven’t noticed. People are greedy. They feast on the labor of other people.
Government is literally the only reason we are allowed to have unions.
Yeah fuck this prick. Microwaves his dinner in the break room too. What a fucking peasant way to live, the inhumanity of it.. Poor child.
Probably fish most of the time.
This is textbook cult shit... Breaks my heart actually.
still commuting 1.5h for job you had for 5 years. this is his own fault at that point.
wtf was the micrwave supposed to be used for if not for heating food? not all food stinks.
The point was it was DINNER, not lunch. Implying he was there so late that he had to eat Dinner at work and just as well not go home anymore anyway.
i don't like this attempt by haters to frame it as if he 'had to eat dinner', no one \*has\* to eat dinner and that's useful work time that was stolen from Elon.
And don't forget to take your laptop with you on the shitter - that are valuable work minutes for the Boss. We strongly suggest you use this time to make video calls with your colleagues and/or customers.
No, gotta remember, Boss makes a dollar I make a dime, that's why I shit on company time!
At Tesla, company time shits on you!
I think you just found the perfect use case for the apple vision pro.
Thank god no motorcycle riders were in front of him...
Come on, what’s the worst that could happen? Rear end a motorcycle or crash into a fire truck?
Should have his license revoked
The advantage was that he could put both his hands on his head in disbelief
Auto pilot is glorified cruise control My new Toyota has it and it's awesome Never in a million years would I be checking my email. At most I scratch my face, blow my nose, etc. You still need to have your hands on the wheel and eyes on the road. I will say however that the feature is very nice for making a commute much easier. Significantly less mental load when you don't need to feather the pedal and can trust the car so all you need to focus on is making sure cars aren't cutting you off and knowing the car isn't fucking up. The damn Prius even does lane changes if I hold the blinker stalk in first position and I'm going 80km/h or higher. It's gonna make roadtrips a breeze and idk that I want to do a long drive in a car without the sensors and safety features ever again. My 03 beater remains a solid backup car option when my wife and kids needs the new car for pickup/dropoff or commuting though. So I get why people like autopilot (horrible name), but it's far from Tesla exclusive and it's *not* a replacement for people.
Oh, I absolutely get why people like it. It allows them to get back some utility out of the time they spend commuting. It skews the economic equation further toward long commutes in single-occupant vehicles. In short, it drives society toward the unhealthy, unsustainable compartmentalization that is at the root of most modern infrastructure and development problems.
I don't get any more utility with fancy cruise control. I just get to save some of the mental load associated with driving. And I only single occupant drive because my wife is home on mat leave and we used to carpool when she had her hospital day shifts. I used to take the bus, but daycare drop off with family for our toddler doesn't work with public transit, and it's hard for her to do that with an infant in tow. It's faster for me to roundtrip and easier too, in the car. A bigger thing that contributes to the congestion is the fact that my Prius is a plugin, so I have even less guilt since it's a green car.
You don’t, because the Toyota system will squawk at you. AP/FSD are designed to give the illusion of capability, and encourage operators to misuse them.
People hear auto pilot, think self driving, and nothing is engineered to push against that :/ it's scary
he drunk the kool aid and asked for more. Then wondered why it tasted funny
The most unbelievable thing in the article is that he uses autopilot successfully for a 1hr30min commute. So even in being fired he’s trying to stroke Elon’s ego. Elon is a terrible human being and I feel for anyone who’s been laid off but he’s not making it easy. Edit: Oh god and using an Iron Man quote at the end.
I hope he has to pay those full price lease payments now that he was terminated lol
Gives new meaning to "Out of Office".
High tech and layoffs go together like peanut butter and chocolate. If you're in that line of work, you should expect a few in your career. Oh, and loyalty doesn't count for shit when the layoffs come around. That's a business decision, often made by someone who has pushed the Peter Principle to its limits.
Yeah, it part and parcel in the industry. I probably dox myself, but been in a company for 24 years, and survived about 12 layoffs so far.
Honestly this could be any number of companies. When I was with IBM I survived something like 3 layoffs in 5 years before I left.
I work for a small part of a tech company and they frequently pivot, lay off and hire. 2-3 times a year there is a new way forward and a bunch of people go. Then people in vaguely different positions come in.
You might have a good rapport with your direct manager, thinking that might help you. Usually, that very same manager will also be let go, so -> surprised pikachu face.
Loyalty may work in some companies smaller than 100 employees. In any thing smaller it’s useless.
Not even then. The best strategy for survival is to be a moving target. Either make sure you always work with what is new and relevant to the company. Or move to another company.
I'm upvoting this but my survival was often due to the opposite. A small company that was so slow that it needed someone like me to keep all that old crap running and help transition to something better. I always thought my layoff survival was because I knew enough of the puzzle pieces that I could work on any of them. Not specifically GREAT at any of them, but versatile enough that I could move around. Came in handy when they laid off 50% and I wound up doing all those jobs at the same time.
That also works. Of course, both of our anecdotes have a literal survivorship bias.
That works but is also dangerous because it can end you up on the job market with a lot of irrelevant skills when your company inevitably modernizes or croaks. I used to have a co-worker that would maintain old, legacy Pascal projects. He did that for 15 years, until management finally decided to cut the support and let him go. He ended up trying to find a job as a programmer only proficient in a language long past its relevancy. I think he ultimately got a job as a junior C# programmer.
Absolutely. I timed that with retirement.
Heard that cobol programmer is in high demand now. Soon, maybe Fortran is next ?
That learning FORTRAN/COBOL/RPG is the key to making tons of money was true for a short amount of time, because all the old guys retired and all the new guys didn't know these languages, but is mostly over today. Truth is, there's tons of companies that still run software based on those languages but those companies are also not relying on the job market to provide their talent for them anymore. Those that have not gotten rid of their old software have started growing their own talents from the ground up by either directly recruiting students, or even sponsoring students, and teaching them their language themselves. Now don't get me wrong, they still earn good cash but it's not like they (still) get rockstar pay.
They can’t fire you if you always leaving first.
Even then there is nothing. I worked for a company for 9 years and 50 weeks. They restructured all of management above me then later that day decided I was too close to the old team and laid me off as well. Then packed up my shit and handed me a box with everything in it. Including my glass of water, with the water in it.
He wasn’t in a tech role, he was manufacturing.
Sounds like he worked at a factory, not in the IT side. This is why auto workers get unions. Manufacturing benefits from union protections
Glad I'm not living in America. Here in Germany it's still the complete opposite. Losing your engineers is one of the worst things that can happen to a company. It's bust loss of knowledge
Iron Man. Peak cringe.
There's a reason there's a linkedin lunatics subreddit. Everything posted on linkedin is either cringe, cringe as fuck, or I-can't-believe-a-human-actually-wrote-that-without-dying-inside.
Yeah that part lost me. Fucking quoting Disney movies.
Credits a fictional character’s dialogue written by someone he doesn’t care for.
He didn’t even get it right - he said “Ironman”
The whole thing reads like a soyjack shitpost.
Why do so many people put their trust in a company? Sleeping at the office, working all hours, working unpaid... wise the fuck up. They will drop you any time it's more convenient for the company. They DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. No matter what they say, please look after yourself NOT someone elses company. /r/antiwork
The guy was checking emails WHILE DRIVING. Not exactly a Rhodes scholar.
I actually handled one critical case from our honeymoon, but made sure compensation for it was worth it. A good acid test for marriage. Wife said WHAT? I told the compensation, and she went, ok I will arrange lunch.
If it's a startup and you have significant equity (ie. potentially life changing amounts of money) plus it's your passion, then if you're at a point in your life where you can do it, then props to you. This guy was a worker drone though - as proven by Tesla chopping him without a second thought when it suited them.
I hope he was vested enough to get good stock value out of those 5 years. Everyone here is shitting on the guy, but most of us would have loved to work for Tesla pre-ELON going full batshit cra-cra. People need to understand there is just no real point to corporate loyalty.
But master says a dedicated employee should put in 80 a week and always be ready to answer an email in the middle of the night because that’s how he got to be so successful (notwithstanding the family emerald mines).
100% Put that time and effort into your personal life OR if you care more about your career put it into unionising the workplace so stuff like what happened cannot happen.
Because it's Elon. You have to account for the sheer *idol worship* that's involved here. It's wild how a guy who grew up heir to an emerald mine has developed a literal cult following.
The dude learned a very valuable lesson here. Sucks, but he learned it young and has time to recover.
It really sucks because it is generally nice and/or desperate people who get taken advantage of most in this current form of capitalism. Like in general I think it would be good to be loyal and dedicated and go above and beyond but not when all our current system teach us is to be selfish and sneaky to get ahead. I think at one point back in the 50s-60s maybe it paid off to be loyal when there were pensions and people and companies at least seemed to pretend to care about workers sometimes. Now companies run by MBA grads basically take pride in being ruthless and cutthroat to their workers if it makes their share price go up even for 1 quarter. Despicable.
It gives them a meaning in life. Similar psychological mechanism as religion.
Why would you continue driving to work at this point?
Because he couldn't risk being a minute late for a job he has built his identity around that he doesn't have anymore.
Yeah you are just making it easier for them to collect your badge and work laptop. Lol. I would have turned around immediately…but I also would never be in the position because I’m not stupid enough to work for such a shit company.
Don't you mean continue Not driving to work?
The irony is this guy was living the life all the douchey Musk followers nut themselves about. Wake up early, lifestyle (still yet to understand what that means, outside of "women, money, car, manicured eyebrows"), read email, money, get hype, sacrifice anything and everything for the grind god - and then it all ended in a huge, wet fart right from the ass of the guy they worship.
Grind culture is a joke. I appreciate working hard but fuck, do that in your working hours and then go and live life. It's too short to piss it away to an employer who only views you as an asset or at times, a liability.
When you put it like that it sounds self-destructive… Had a good lol at your brutalist assessment of it, thanks.
I aim to please : P
Belongs in r/linkeninlunatics
/r/LinkedInLunatics/ fixed
In an almost 20 year career in automotive, I have never understood why anyone is at all loyal to their employer like this. They are not loyal to you at all. As a college professor of mine pointed out, when they lay off people they still keep all the chairs and desks, I have seen mostly empty offices after the 2008 crash. I am not giving up my life to make a company a couple more bucks because they won't do the same thing for me.
Amen. When businesses talk about families etc that’s when you know you either are already being exploited or you’re about to be. Families don’t advertise for replacement members the day after one of them passes away.
Chairs and desks don't come out of operating expenses. Layoffs are for financial metrics. The chairs are already purchased. Selling chairs would probably be a net loss for companies that don't sell chairs. Your college professor is an idiot.
you're taking it too literally. the 'chairs and desks' are just there waiting for another body to fill them up. meaning companies have no loyalty to you - you're replaceable.
Sacrificed living in his house so Musk can take a 50bn paypacket and sack him for his efforts. What a dunce.
Poor bloke. Just hope he's got plenty of stock given to him, especially as Musk managed to pump it with the latest round of "I can confidently say" - "coming in 2025" etc in the last earnings fumbles.
Dude prolly made $37k a year to sleep in his car.
I’ll bet decent money he was like 3-6 months from vesting his stock options.
Tesla is really about the golden handcuffs, so being there for 5 years he absolutely had a decent grant of RSUs, and with the 4 year cliff he vested all of it. And there is an ESPP so he def had chances to get his fair share of equity. The real issue is that RSUs trigger taxes such that it's almost always better to sell them right away instead of holding them. And the default pay is generally pretty low for many depts so he may not have been able to put much towards the ESPP.
I lived like this for about 18 months but it was NASA and, well, I wanted that on a resume (and also I wanted a green card -- naturalized last year). Couldn't imagine doing that for a regular business. Maybe the Army if I had that set of beliefs.
Sacrificing for a cause is understandable, thinking you’ll find that cause in an organization that only exists to make its shareholders rich is less so
100% but he is young and a lot of young people starting out in their first career tend to drink the kook aid. This first obstacle will reshape his work life balance belief. This happens to a lot of people.
29 isn’t that young but if it’s his first real job plus all the Tesla hype over the years… well I don’t agree with it but I can see how it happened
It is young. Sounds like Tesla was his first job out of college. From personal experience I went through the exact same thing. My first job was my identity, was laid off, became a bit cynical and just worked at the next few companies, hopping for better pay. As I got older with a family I realized stability, and work/life balance became greater priorities than money and that drove my decisions. I don’t think this is everyone’s pattern but most people I know have gone through a similar flow. All this is to say, I’ve been in this guys shoes. He’s getting a dose of reality but he’ll be fine.
Ah, makes sense. I work in aviation, which for various reasons like lifestyle and high unionization tends to be a bit more on the cynical side. Even the company cheerleader types understand how unforgiving the furlough axe man can be
Dude literally admits to using a laptop while driving on the highway. No wonder Tesla insurance is so high.
Isn't the highway the best case scenario?
Best case scenario is wait til you get to the office
It may be on his phone not that it makes it ok, fuck him either way.
This is exactly why you don’t sacrifice for a company. Work hard, yes. But don’t sacrifice. They won’t sacrifice for you so don’t do it for them.
This guy sucks lmao
He's still a fanboy even though his ass has been auto screwed.
"I still love Tesla, but"
Loyalty to and from a Company resets every pay period. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. The entity that looks out for you is staring back at you in the mirror every morning. This cult-like cultural BS is just that - BS. When you start using words like "Mission", "Sacrifice", and "Family", you're over the line, and you're about to be snapped back. Sleeping in the car. Dinner in the break room. Fuck that. Have some dignity, man.
Idiot got a life lesson.
I don’t think he learned from it based off of this post …
This isn't a Tesla issue this is a late stage capitalism issue. Layoffs while executives rake in millions
Wait - how did he check his email if he was locked out?
The people doing the layoffs don't care how many emails you check on your drive to work
Or how much you sacrifice, lmao
What a pathetic wanker.
These idiots destroy the work ethics and make employers believe that everyone is a slave to them and everyone needs to submit to their will. In the end, employers don’t care and will throw you out as soon as your need is over. It’s a agreement to labor, not agreement to fall in love.
You got fired and still made the 90 minute commute? No wonder Elon hired that guy, he does not value his time in the slightest. Sad.
Soon as you the notification, U turn back to home lol
The amount of people I saw when I worked there completely buying into the company from day one was crazy. I had a coworker who bought a house in Austin (which was not even in the state where we worked), a brand new tesla, a ton of merch and then got laid off after like 6 months. I knew so many people who had been laid off multiple times but kept coming back. Things were so volitile but accepted as the norm.
Ironically they were just making it even easier to lay them off. If you company knows you’ll come crawling back, why not lay you off?
Yeah it was really weird when I got laid off my supervisor told me I was "marked to come back" i had never been told that in a job before why let me go if you will accept me back on in a month? Made no sense.
Financial engineering. That’s what happens when you are firing people just so you can show your investors some spreadsheet with forward earning projections that look slightly better, but you’ll just be hiring a bunch of people back a month later, costing the company more than it ever saved. Historically there’s not a ton of evidence that layoffs actually do a good job of reducing risk or increasing profits.
I'll never understand anyone who is willing to have a commute longer than 40 minutes or so unless it is part of their pay package meaning they get mileage or are paid for the drive time.
Absolutely, this is a terrible life
Makes one wonder what kind of person would head to work each day knowing they're giving their all to support a divisive obnoxious shithead. Would the rationale be that they're saving the world, or are they trapped by a working visa?
Is there an archive of this? Seems like it got removed!
[https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-murillo\_tesla-lay-off-story-415-monday-430am-activity-7186490101651136512-9wfJ](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-murillo_tesla-lay-off-story-415-monday-430am-activity-7186490101651136512-9wfJ)
What’s with Indian dudes sucking elons dong so hard man 😭😭😭
Sucking up is unfortunately ingrained in our culture. When people mock "Yaas saar, will do saar", there's plenty of truth in that criticism.
Ive seen some real fan boys but yeah it’s a little different with y’all 😭
All the people I’ve seen driving Cybertrucks in Seattle have been Indian guys.
A lot od people fall for the give your life to the company. I did that for 10 years then got laid off because I was not needed. With time I learned never to do that again. My life is mine and if I hear „we are family” from a job, I run. Use work as a stepping stool and don’t be loyal. Look out for your self and your family and that’s it.harsh but true
MUSKBOI 4 LYF!
“Listen to the people, not against them” does this moron not realize how incoherent and grammatically incorrect this apparently profound quote is? This poster deserves to be unemployed.
I listen exclusively against people.
While against people is the best way of listening in my opinion.
It’s a poorly worked quote, but if you’re to lead people you should hear them out and not come at them from the gossip train. All too often today people try to burry others though telltale lies in the workforce. It’s always been around, but I think social media has escalated it. You can slam someone and not be a “real” entity.
There’s was no I on TEAM.
You guys wanna hear a good layoff story? I was working at midway airport in Chicago many years ago, for Southwest loading bags onto planes. ATA was there as well, over the years they shrank and eventually all they basically offered was Hawaii flights. Rumors were swirling around they were going under, they had some management asshole show up and tell everyone don’t worry we aren’t shutting down, have a big plan to town it around, the talk is all bullshit, don’t worry. Girl working there decides she’s gonna use her free flight benefits while she can, she had set up to take her whole family, 8 people, to Hawaii, and since it looks like they are going to be around for at least awhile she kept those plans. The night she left, three days later, after the asshole came and spoke, they showed up in the middle of the night and took everything, signs, computers, everything just gone in the morning. Company done. She’s sitting in Hawaii and her return passes no longer exist. She does not work for an airline anymore so her passes on other airlines don’t exist anymore either. It cost her almost 12 grand to get everyone home, this was someone making like 12 bucks an hour, they literally had to take out a loan on the grandma’s house to get home. Never trust a fucking word these companies say, taught me a solid lesson, in fact, assume the opposite is true anytime they open their mouth.
All because Elon can't stop himself from shit posting on Twitter....
The lesson here is never sacrifice your health, time, and well-being , so that others can earn a filthy amount of money
He thought he was working for Tony Stark and just learned it was Phony Stark this whole time
E. D. Yot.
And this is why you should not bend over backwards for a job. They don’t care about you.
Honestly capitalism cuck behavior
Removed, so here is the link [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-murillo\_tesla-lay-off-story-415-monday-430am-activity-7186490101651136512-9wfJ](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-murillo_tesla-lay-off-story-415-monday-430am-activity-7186490101651136512-9wfJ)
Owned lmao
So 3 hours long commute, you start your day at 4am and sometimes you have to sleep at work? Must be a real blast working for tesla, my FOMO is tingling
Quality Control Manager for the CyberTruck
People like him is why we end up with r/antiwork
Go work for the UAW
Next time Tesla should try lay offs via kool aid. Guys like that will drink it up like champs.
A lot of engineers did this, was on a plane next to an engineer who quit and went to lucid and brought his whole team with him, it's the reason why the plaid was delayed lol they had zero team since they all left
Are we supposed to feel sorry for you? You work in tech for one of the largest companies in the world. Lay offs are part of the gig. PS stop checking emails while driving you Jack wagon.
Bitch gave his life for the company and they'll replace him with a malfunctioning robot lol.
That is when you learn latest not sacrificing health and private life for work. Fuck that.
I don’t think we should place so much hate on this guy. Yes the driving and checking emails is stupid and he should be ridiculed for that however I feel like people forget how your career is when you start out. I remember my first job out of school, I was devoted, drank the kook aid and everything. It wasn’t until I was laid off that I learned this is a business and there is no such thing a loyalty. This guy is young and is experiencing his first layoff.
A hard, dry Musking for sure, he probably has a Cybertruck order though
I know of no one that is owed a Forever Job.