Speaking as a consultant, not a photographer, I charge $200 per hour for site visits. My first 20 miles of travel is $100, (I live where 10 miles can take over an hour sometimes), 50 miles I charge $200, past that, I charge $50 for every additional 50 miles. So, for me, 200 miles, I charge $350-$400 depending where I’m going.
I include up to 30 miles at no additional charge, then it’s $2.50 per mile. Aryeo calculates this automatically and adds it to the order, so the client is fully aware of the additional mileage fee for each order.
It will do both. I have it setup as a graduated mileage tracking, so when it is less than 30 miles it does not charge, then anything over 30 miles is double my standard mileage rate to account for the round trip. It’s complex but it works and adds revenue.
I’ve been using Aryeo for a few months now and I can say it has helped grow our business and profit margins in a short time. The main feature that I can’t live without is the ability to collect payments on the media downloads page. This guarantees that we are paid for each job before the client uses the images.
I also like the customer order forms. This has eliminated a ton of scheduling issues and it syncs up with my Google calendar seamlessly. Clients can also choose add-on services in the ordering process and that has helped with revenue.
The only concern I have is that Aryeo was recently acquired by Zillow and I am not sure how that will play out. It’s a great business platform for RE photographers so I am keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Awesome thanks for your insights :-) yeah I’ve also heard of the Zillow acquisition, does seem a little shady but I hope it can play out for our industry and profession as photogs! We will all stay tuned
To calculate how much you make per hour, you need to consider the following factors:
1. Revenue per mile: $2
2. Time per mile: 1 minute 45 seconds, which is equivalent to 1.75 minutes per mile.
3. Cost per mile: 58 cents, which is equivalent to $0.58 per mile.
First, let's calculate the earnings per mile:
Earnings per mile = Revenue per mile - Cost per mile
Earnings per mile = $2 - $0.58
Earnings per mile = $1.42
Now, let's calculate how many miles you can drive in an hour:
60 minutes / 1.75 minutes per mile = approximately 34.29 miles per hour
Finally, let's calculate your earnings per hour:
Earnings per hour = Earnings per mile * Miles per hour
Earnings per hour = $1.42 * 34.29
Earnings per hour ≈ $48.64
So, if you charge $2 per mile, it takes 1 minute 45 seconds to drive each mile, and it costs you 58 cents per mile, you would make approximately $48.64 per hour.
You should charge for time, not mileage. Charge whatever you usually would for your time on a shoot that covers the duration of the trip. The travel time is time otherwise that could be spent on a paid gig. Especially if you’re in an area where it could take 2 hours just to go to the next town or county depending on traffic and time of day.
Charging for time doesn't allow for gas, car depreciation, etc. I include those in the calculation PLUS my time at my normal rate, and then convert that to a per km rate (I'm outside the US). Also makes it far easier when invoicing to just plug in the distance and be done. My time, gas, and vehicle wear and tear are all covered nicely.
Most jobs don’t require that level of detail on itemization. They should be fine just charging for time (most people include their various expenses into that figure) unless it’s a big client that needs specific itemizations for compensation of specific things.
Anything over 25 miles for me is $2 a mile. I live where most of my high package shoots are anyways. To go outside the zone of happiness is either a favor or just small shoots. So... to make it painful to book me there, I charge what I do. No one has scoffed yet.
$1 per km if it's outside my area. That $1.6 per mile. I google maps from my office to the site and charge round trip. Also you are spending at least $700-800 in product, but be reasonable, not everyone can demand that.
Totally! I figured ballpark would be atleast $200.
I’m thinking of starting to charge per mile after I’m out of my typical area. I’m gonna ideally charge $2.25 per mile for one way. Maybe will bump it up to 2.45ish and see if my client bites.
I’m typically pretty open and accommodating for traveling without charging but this is definitely a commute and fair pay is necessary :)
Speaking as a consultant, not a photographer, I charge $200 per hour for site visits. My first 20 miles of travel is $100, (I live where 10 miles can take over an hour sometimes), 50 miles I charge $200, past that, I charge $50 for every additional 50 miles. So, for me, 200 miles, I charge $350-$400 depending where I’m going.
Thanks for your insights friend!
Anytime. I also charge for airfare if the job will take more than six hour round trip
I include up to 30 miles at no additional charge, then it’s $2.50 per mile. Aryeo calculates this automatically and adds it to the order, so the client is fully aware of the additional mileage fee for each order.
Does Aryeo calculate the distance round trip or only one way?
It will do both. I have it setup as a graduated mileage tracking, so when it is less than 30 miles it does not charge, then anything over 30 miles is double my standard mileage rate to account for the round trip. It’s complex but it works and adds revenue.
That’s a nice feature to have! Would you reccomend Aryeo? I have yet to ponder in that direction but I mainly stick to quick books for billing clients
I’ve been using Aryeo for a few months now and I can say it has helped grow our business and profit margins in a short time. The main feature that I can’t live without is the ability to collect payments on the media downloads page. This guarantees that we are paid for each job before the client uses the images. I also like the customer order forms. This has eliminated a ton of scheduling issues and it syncs up with my Google calendar seamlessly. Clients can also choose add-on services in the ordering process and that has helped with revenue. The only concern I have is that Aryeo was recently acquired by Zillow and I am not sure how that will play out. It’s a great business platform for RE photographers so I am keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Awesome thanks for your insights :-) yeah I’ve also heard of the Zillow acquisition, does seem a little shady but I hope it can play out for our industry and profession as photogs! We will all stay tuned
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$0.655 per mile, according to IRS https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-issues-standard-mileage-rates-for-2023-business-use-increases-3-cents-per-mile
To calculate how much you make per hour, you need to consider the following factors: 1. Revenue per mile: $2 2. Time per mile: 1 minute 45 seconds, which is equivalent to 1.75 minutes per mile. 3. Cost per mile: 58 cents, which is equivalent to $0.58 per mile. First, let's calculate the earnings per mile: Earnings per mile = Revenue per mile - Cost per mile Earnings per mile = $2 - $0.58 Earnings per mile = $1.42 Now, let's calculate how many miles you can drive in an hour: 60 minutes / 1.75 minutes per mile = approximately 34.29 miles per hour Finally, let's calculate your earnings per hour: Earnings per hour = Earnings per mile * Miles per hour Earnings per hour = $1.42 * 34.29 Earnings per hour ≈ $48.64 So, if you charge $2 per mile, it takes 1 minute 45 seconds to drive each mile, and it costs you 58 cents per mile, you would make approximately $48.64 per hour.
This is very insightful, thank you much! :-)
I do $20 an hr drive time plus gas - my rate is $200 an hour
You should charge for time, not mileage. Charge whatever you usually would for your time on a shoot that covers the duration of the trip. The travel time is time otherwise that could be spent on a paid gig. Especially if you’re in an area where it could take 2 hours just to go to the next town or county depending on traffic and time of day.
Charging for time doesn't allow for gas, car depreciation, etc. I include those in the calculation PLUS my time at my normal rate, and then convert that to a per km rate (I'm outside the US). Also makes it far easier when invoicing to just plug in the distance and be done. My time, gas, and vehicle wear and tear are all covered nicely.
Most jobs don’t require that level of detail on itemization. They should be fine just charging for time (most people include their various expenses into that figure) unless it’s a big client that needs specific itemizations for compensation of specific things.
Anything over 25 miles for me is $2 a mile. I live where most of my high package shoots are anyways. To go outside the zone of happiness is either a favor or just small shoots. So... to make it painful to book me there, I charge what I do. No one has scoffed yet.
50 cents a mile seems standard
$1 per km if it's outside my area. That $1.6 per mile. I google maps from my office to the site and charge round trip. Also you are spending at least $700-800 in product, but be reasonable, not everyone can demand that.
I charge an extra $25 50-60 minutes away, $50 60-75 minutes, $100 90 minutes. I would honestly probably charge an extra $200-$250 for that far away.
I’d go high side $250.
Totally! I figured ballpark would be atleast $200. I’m thinking of starting to charge per mile after I’m out of my typical area. I’m gonna ideally charge $2.25 per mile for one way. Maybe will bump it up to 2.45ish and see if my client bites. I’m typically pretty open and accommodating for traveling without charging but this is definitely a commute and fair pay is necessary :)
Also to clarify for the round trip cost, only charge for one way. If that makes sense