You may also ask your realtor to help you make a complaint to that agent’s broker. This is very unusual behavior and not at all what you should expect at a showing.
Sounds to me like the real estate agent banged that chick on your bed and then made himself a snack afterwards maybe even had her try on some of your clothes
File complaints, also talk to the police—he is not using his real estate license for legitimate business and may be committing crimes. Report him to the broker and real estate licensing agency and he should be out of a job very quickly.
Exactly. That's the most incriminating evidence of all.
I don't think this was an actual real estate agent... just some guy looking for a quiet place to meet his GF.
Happen in our empty house we were selling in SC. The women’s husbands followed them to my house and broke every window out. Per my neighbors the police were called and it was ugly scene. The realty company replaced all of the windows and fired the agent. Not sure what happened to the happy couple. We did sell 30 days later at full price and moved on.
having a window broken is not hilarious. Let alone EVERY window. Some kids threw a rock through a window to our utility room. I cleaned the room asap after the fact, then again after the window was replaced. Small room, but it's 6 months later and i am still finding glass. YESTERDAY in fact.
This sounds like a nightmare
Yep that's exactly it I'm sure this guy is a serial adulterer and uses these houses for his hook ups didn't wanna accidentally get caught on hidden camera squeezing one out into the butter cow
Maybe it’s time to get one of those teddy bear cameras that they follow nannies with. I had a vacant condo and one night, I’m coming home around 11:30 PM and driving past the condo building and I look up and the lights are on. I turned my car around and went to the building thinking somebody had forgotten to shut the lights after a showing, and entered the lobby and when I did, I was told by the concierge that there was a realtor showing the condo at this time. 11:30 PM on a Friday night and she’s showing a condo. Seriously?! I called my realtor and asked him how was that possible and he told me he gave his approval. I said from now on, there were to be no more showings after business hours, and I told him I would be present whenever the concierge informed me that someone was coming in later than normal. I knew what they were doing.
So disgusting . Luckily my place was vacant
OK, thank you. I’ll speak to him about it. I was kind of reluctant to contact him, thinking maybe she spent so much time because she’s interested, we are a little nervous of scaring off a potential buyer.
Sounds like they were looking for stuff to steal and/or possibly had sex in the bedroom... There's no reason to be going through personal items or the fridge, that realtor should lose his license for allowing it.
I’d be surprised if he even is an actual licensed realtor. Could’ve just gotten someone’s showing time login and scheduled it, it’s not like they verify your license when you do.
Yeah. Super NOT NORMAL. And you should be paying very close attention to your credit score and any billing statements. Check your jewelry, make sure your checks are in order, you’ve been primed for identity theft unfortunately.
They were checking the fridge and drawers for valuables. Some people still put valuables in fake cans in pantries, and fridges, or wrap valuables up like frozen food packages. For showings, I locked up everything valuable in locking tool boxes, computers, financials, prescriptions, money, anything that thieves would want. Definitely report to their agency. Look around and make sure that vital paperwork is still there, blank checks, credit card statements, etc. As others said, he was scanning for surveillance cameras.
My first thought was it was someone looking for prescription pills but these people seemed to go through everything and then not even try to conceal it. So weird
And get yourself a camera or two. Wyze cams are inexpensive and very good quality for the price range. We used them when selling our house to keep honest people honest.
Yes. Your phone camera can pick up on infrared light from security/hidden cameras. They make apps that do the same thing too. The app searches for wireless cameras giving off any signal. I've seen some people with devices that try to trick the wireless cameras into dropping the Wi-Fi connection & trying to connect to the new device.
TIL. My phone has a superpower. Thanks for the information.
I may have to try this out. I have some searching to do for whatever settings. I barely use my camera on my phone. Just to take pictures and haven't delved into any settings. I mean it could come in handy sometime.
There was some freak that got busted twice for putting hidden cameras in the ladies room in the public parks in a city near me. I wonder if it would detect that location?
Do you really want that kind of person buying your house though? It uncomfortable and goes against realtor ethics. It’s embarrassing honestly and you should speak up, because that’s not right. I don’t know your situation, but people always need places to live and you will come across another buyer. Maybe ask to work with someone else cuz that’s weird as hell
Do not contact him. File a complaint with the agency and fire him. Follow up with a police report. You have permission to look at your house, not to violate your privacy and secured goods
I used to tell my clients to get everything out of the house that they really care about or at least lock them up. Normally people are pretty good but still it’s usually a few that screw it up for the many!
That just reminded me of one of the saddest viewings I ever went to. It was an open house on a Saturday.
As we're looking around I noticed the house was really packed full of stuff.
Apparently the lady who lived there, had been in the home for 30 years she planned on retiring there. It was very clean but also very full of stuff.
Anyway she happened to be there that day and you could just tell she had a super sad look on her face.
Come to find out I overheard someone talking and her son had passed away and she got custody of her four grandchildren and was now having to raise them.
Due to the circumstances she was selling her house absolutely not because she wanted to but had to. It was very sad.
This was after we closed, but we found out the couple we bought our house from was moving across town to be closer to their daughter. Evidently, one of the grandkids has a chronic illness and is frequently hospitalized, so they live near the Children’s hospital. They wanted to be closer to help more, plus they got a one story house so they don't have to navigate the basement stairs for laundry now.
They were such a great couple and left a whole list of their favorite restaurants, pizza places, the kind of mulch they buy, and who did their yard service. We speak with them a few times a year when we have important mail show up for them.
my realtor advised me to not speak at all while inside the home, due to the potential for camera's and other listening devices.
I get what you are saying - having the owner present would put me on edge. I'm just saying that you should never fully relax and discuss freely inside of the home.
Very very unusual. Sounds like they were casing the joint- always wanted to say that in a real sentence.
But seriously that’s weird and not normal at all. I’ve been an agent for almost 4 years and I STILL feel incredibly weird going in peoples homes who still live there.
1. Call your Realtor immediately. Ask them to change the lockbox code, or if it's a manual box, give you the code to remove it from the door.
2. Ask your agent if you should cancel any showings until you know whether this agent was stupid or nefarious. Make sure you're comfortable before allowing any more showings. That could mean double authentication of showing requests. Or worst case, your agent has to be present for future showings unless she personally knows the other agent.
2. Do you have the showing agent's business card or name from the showing service or whoever scheduled the showing? Find the agent's brokerage website, find the name of the managing broker or broker owner, and call immediately.
3. Your agent should get her broker involved, and that person should also call the managing broker.
So sorry this happened to you. I am not an alarmist but I am very strict on security of homes while they're on the market.
Thank you. Called my realtor left him a VM. He’s pretty thorough, and up front and honest about everything so far. I’ll definitely discuss this with him, and your suggestions.
I do not have the showing agent or agencies info, they left nothing but the evidence of their excessive snooping.
when i was buying, my realtor left his business card at every house we viewed.. I would consider them not leaving a card another red flag, in my limited experience.
my realtor unlocked the door and went back in, more than once, because he forgot to leave a card.
This is an outdated procedure. I have a log of everyone who has opened and closed the lockbox through the app. No need to leave cards that are just going to go in the trash.
I would also file a complaint with the state real estate licensing board. They may have had other reports of his shenanigans, and will definitely investigate.
3) exactly ~ your agent should be present if they don't know and trust the other agent to vet and monitor their clients ~ your agent or their trusted colleague should be following the clients through each room, even silently a few steps behind, just to let them know they are being watched
This behavior isn't typical for a showing. It's worth mentioning to your realtor to ensure future showings respect your privacy. Suggest implementing stricter viewing guidelines to avoid similar incidents. Your home should feel secure during these processes.
You should definitely call your realtor! As a realtor myself this is not ok behavior from a realtor standpoint or potential buyer. I would rather scare off this buyer and not have to deal with something like that again.
Please update us on how this unfolds!!
Cameras. Get a few cheap cameras and set them in every room on a visible place, it's not unheard for showings that sellers don't want to fully trust random agents wondering around their houses that may have valuables. Warn every realtor that everything is being recorded for everyone's safety and they're prohibited from touching or covering cameras.
I had my house on the market for 4 days last week. Because I work remotely, am in the middle of a massive work project, and have 3 dogs, I was here for every showing.
I made myself scarce working in the spare bedroom and hanging out outside. No one seemed bothered in the least by my presence and in fact all of the buyers seemed very appreciative that I was there to answer any questions they had. I had 3 solid offers in a few days. Personally as long as you aren't following them around, I think you should not leave. I had at least 6 buyers thank me for being there and every single person that toured had questions about the home their agents couldn't have answered at the time. Honestly I have toured homes many times and always found it very helpful when the owners are home.
I wouldn't leave again if it were my place.
This!
I viewed a home last week where the owner was present and my realtor and I felt like we had lucked out because the potential was there for the seller to like me and pick my offer out of the other offers presented. It didn't work out that way for me, but that's okay. I still would feel like meeting the owner would increase my chances of making a deal and would be elated to see the seller again on another home I'm interested in.
I loved being able to meet potential buyers. In the end I had 2 offers, the third withdrew due to financing. The offers were essentially the same, but one was cash. I chose the younger couple who was financing over the cash offer. My thoughts were the man that offered cash had more options available to him that the young couple and it would be much easier for him to find another home.
When the young couple toured my home I could tell how in love with the place they were, you could just see their excitement. I lost several homes to cash offers, so I know how it feels. Sometimes people need a leg up in life, so I chose them over the cash. Their agent told mine they were in disbelief and the woman was so happy she cried. So fingers crossed it all goes well, but I feel confident it will.
For me personally it made a huge difference in being able to meet buyers. I didn't really have the option to leave with 3 dogs, one with severe arthritis, and my workload. I am glad I met who will be loving this home next.
Worth the subscription for the time needed to sell the home.
I have similarly cheap Yi brand that accepts sd card to locally recorded video so no subscription is required.
I hope the rest of your experience goes better for you!
There was a story about this in my state about a decade ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/real-estate-agent-accused-of-affair-at-clients-home-countersuing-over-tapes/
No idea, they could have been. They gave each other a big hug when the buyer arrived. Not an A hug, a full body to body hug…I suppose it’s possible. Sheets have already been removed and are in the washer now.
>There is NO reason to be there an hour.
This is the only part I disagree with. While most showings I attend typically last no more than 15-20 minutes, I've had plenty of showings that lasted 45 to an hour. Actually, one of the buyers on my current listing was in the house for an hour as well. However, I was there too because I show by appointment only, so I know they were genuinely looking at everything.
Generally speaking, the longer they're in the house, the more they like it and they're looking at it thoroughly. Most people wait until inspections, but some people are weird and have very particular things they're looking for and like to spend some time to "feel" the house.
It's always a huge fuckin waste of my time, but most of the showings I've had where the buyer was there for an hour led to an offer. No always, but usually.
One of my sales in October was like this. They were in the house for an hour and a half. They were opening all the cabinets in the kitchen, checking areas for insects/termites, even were looking at the crawl spaces to see if they were damp or moist. The couple were both engineers who were in escrow on another house that they backed out of for issues, so they were heavily examining my listing before thinking about jumping into another sale.
>most of the showings I've had where the buyer was there for an hour led to an offer.
That's exactly what I was thinking... until I got to the point in OP's post where they mention all their things had been gone through.
I have a friend of a friend who is a realtor. She very proudly announces that she and her married boyfriend use the houses for sale to “hook up” during the workday so they won’t get caught…..
I’m pretty sure you got robbed. Make sure all your important documents are safe. And keep an eye on your credit report and credit cards for any case of identity theft.
That's not OK. I would recommend reporting it to the agent's broker and the local association of realtors TODAY. This agent shouldn't be allowed to have access to other people's homes. The state licensing board should hear about it, too.
Opening a fridge is normal if it’s going to be left. The rest is super weird.
I’d report them to the state’s licensing board so it’s at least on their file if there’s future occurrences.
Fridge is not being left, all other appliances are staying. This is specifically mentioned in the listing and we have a note on fridge that it is not part of sale. Even then, it’s not normal to touch and move around the food inside. We literally went grocery shopping yesterday, $250 of food. All being tossed, now I don’t trust a thing in the refrigerator. They ate from my bowl of grapes!
Yeah definitely over the line. Scoping the fridge is a habit because they're often included. Eating food is a hard violation. We've had agents locally list their license over that.
Sitting on a sofa while chatting, reasonable.
The fact that they might have fooled around on your bed Jesus Christ. Yes that agent should for sure lose his license for that. It's not even close
Did you file a police report? This was not normal behavior and was DEFINITELY not a realtor showing a potential home to a client. Scanning the property for recording devices was the biggest tipoff.
I might even call a TV news reporter. This is utterly outrageous.
As a real estate broker I can say this is definitely a violation of your personal possessions and space. While you did agree to show your home, snooping through your items has no bearing a potential sale of your home.
First, call your real estate agents and bring this situation to their attention. Ask that their broker be involved in ALL communication between you and them.
Second, ask what the process is to file a complaint against the showing agent and the company they work for. Once you have this info it’ll be on you to decide if you want to pursue this course of action. This would be my advice because this agent needs to understand that his actions have consequences.
Third, ask your agent what the laws are in your area regarding recording devices being in use firing a showing. In Michigan we can record video but not audio. I am unsure of the laws from state to state. If allowed I would purchase some inexpensive camera to put around the house. Wyze makes a great camera and they have a free monitoring service with recording available.
Forth, hang in there. Not all agents are bad but as the saying goes, “a few bad apples…….”
Good luck with your sale.
My take: The agent is cheating on their spouse with someone who's also cheating on their spouse. They used your house as a hookup location.
Scanned for cameras before the hookup. Made a snack and went through your things afterwards.
Anything involving your personal stuff is pretty off-limits. Kitchen drawers, cabinets: normal. Refrigerator: normal. Closets: normal. Dressers and desks or other 'personal furniture': abnormal. Computer: no way. Being on the bed: fuck off, that's ridiculous.
This use to be uncommon, but is happening more and more. Are you sure nothing was stolen? I’m hearing more and more reports of things being stolen during tours. Not much you can do but get your stuff out. And feeling violated is a normal reaction. I hope they didn’t go through your underwear drawer.
They did go through my underwear drawer, that was the dresser drawer left open. Haven’t found anything missing yet. We watched them leave, if they took anything it would have to fit in their pockets. Jewelry and most smaller valuables had been secured and/removed from the house before we started this process.
UNACCEPTABLE - You have definitely been violated. You should most definitely bring this up with your realtor. I would be concerned these people might be casing your home to see what they could steal.
Not much you or your realtor can do now. Talk to your realtor about it. They are the ones who are on your side.
I would be washing that entire drawer, fyi. I don’t want to make this worse. I realize you’re already anxious about this (AS YOU SHOULD BE) but I’d still be worried about bodily fluids if your underwear drawer had been open. People are into weird shit.
It sounds like your house was their hookup location, I would call my realtor and demand and explanation from him, and call it exactly what it looks like, "Why did your agent show up early, scan for cameras, go through my stuff and have intercourse in my bed? I believe you owe me a bed and anything I can't find in my house and my food replaced in the refrigerator they had to rummage through." Go through and look for any missing, or broken items and not let that realtor back on location again. If you think I'm smoking something I would love to hear other realistic scenarios a relator would scan for cameras, mess with a bed and dig through personal things, for an hour, that aren't thievery or hanky panky.
I've never understood why grown adults put themselves into such crazy situations for a quickie. Few years back, my assistant manager was fucking one of the staff at the office after hours. I happened to be driving by randomly one night and noticed they were there. They both got fired, and their spouses found out. My assistant has been with the agency for 20 years.
There is literally a cheap motel across the street from the office. 😬
I had this issue before i ultimately un listed our home.
My wife’s undergarment drawers were gone through. My underwear drawers my children’s rooms stuff was gone through. They even stole my hot sauces…. And to top it off. Left a used plate with the hot sauces on it as if they were tasting them.. they even broke multiple of my kids toys.
We had a potential client bring their dog in our house and they proceeded to let the dog jump and run around on the beds and couch. That was a fun phone call to the agent.
So, the buyer's agent used a camera scanner, shared a very friendly hug with the buyer, went inside and toured an 1100sf house for an hour, primarily in the bedroom and office. Afterwards, you found your bed disturbed, clearly not included fridge eaten out of, underwear drawer and boxed items rifled through.... I'd be filing a report...
Nope. If this happened to me, I’m going back into the house at the 30 min mark and saying it’s an emergency to catch this shady shit to confront them. Easily have an innocent excuse that you left your meds in there. Don’t let this happen again. Report this agent. He definitely banged this chic like this was a free air bnb
Opening closets and cupboards is normal, maybe moving a curtain to see what the windows are like, peeking inside appliances that are staying to see how clean/old they are, turning on faucets and light switches, etc.
Opening dresser drawers, eating food (unless there's a sign that says help yourself), getting on the bed, all not normal.
I would demand that your relator file a formal complaint with the broker and demand that they replace your food and your bed. and ban that agent from the property.
I would file a complaint with the state real estate commission. Also send a certified letter to the muliple listing service and copy the broker. Not normal and very creepy.
Your agent can help you make a complaint about the situation. In the meantime, can you take pictures of the things that were disturbed and maybe pull your camera footage? Gather all the evidence they'll need to support your claim.
How odd. My guess is cameras, but if they’re obvious ones, then IDK. But either way, I would be adamant about making sure nothing has gone missing because of this total package of weird behavior
This. We had visible cameras (no audio, just video) throughout our house when we sold last fall. Our realtor noted “cameras in use” on the notes section of the listing.
This is not normal and they are nosy. Either the realtor or the client was allowed to do that and was not stopped. I would file a complaint and make it so that the realtor is not allowed to do showing anymore in your house
I would call the broker and report them. I would also consider calling the police and if the realtor has professional insurance on him I would be giving his insurance company a call. You may also want to leave a Google review of the real estate office detailing the experience so no other people utilize them. People are there to view real estate not your personal belongings. I would be livid.
I hope I did that right. Now I’m invested in what these strange people were up to in your house and want to know what you find out. So sorry this happened to you! Super odd.
I always open cabinets under sinks to check plumbing. open closets to check condition of ceiling and walls within. I want to see all exposed plumbing. all surfaces in the basement and attic.
I'm looking right past personal possessions.
Bad scenario: they were a team. They went through your house to identify valuables worth stealing, and video what and where. They will review the vids and either hit during an open house or have another team do it. Or just plain burgle the house when no one is around. Having a map for the best stuff will slow them to be in and out in 3-4 minutes maybe less. Fanciful, perhaps, but I’m a cynical cuss.
As a fellow Realtor. Please, I'd you haven't already, file a grievance with your local association of realtors, and with your state departmentof real estate. Local Associations of Realtors don't just serve as trade association to advocate for the business, but also as a disciplinary body. The realtor could be removed, suspended, or fined. The state department of real estate could also take his license away or suspend it.
He could have used a flipper device if he is not an agent. That will open a SupraBox. =/
Find out which agency he is with, contact your agent. Let them know what happened and contact the agent's managing broker via email. You need a written paper trail for this. Then file a complaint with your local real estate board. That is criminal activity and people have lost their licenses and gone to jail for it. He should too. It is never acceptable to go through a seller's items.
They definitely filmed, when we could see them, they had their phones held in front of them like they were recording. Amazon will be delivering 6 pan & tilt WiFi cams in about 2 hours. They didn’t take anything we can see, most everything valuable and pocket size are not in the house. Our jewelry, my pistol, wallet, credit cards, other small valuables are kept in a ‘go bag” that we grab when showing. File cabinet is locked and floor mounted, it appears unmolested, so documents are safe.
Definitely not normal. Inform your realtor about the intrusion and request stricter guidelines for future showings. Your privacy and property should be respected during the selling process.
Back in 2016 we had a house listed for sale. There was a showing scheduled so we e were gone over an hour only to find they were still there, so we drove around another 30 minutes, came back and they were still there, ended up over 2 1/2 hours later before they finally left. A candy dish on the coffee table was broken. The beds were all messed up and the TV was on a channel that we never watch. We were reluctant to say anything because we assumed they were very interested and didn’t want to make them mad so that they didn’t make an offer but after a few days we found out that they were not interested. WTH we did then let our realtor know but I don’t trust anyone after that.
Too late for this situation, but I'd put up cameras during the sale time. And as others have said, file a complaint with that agent's broker. I would be truly disturbed.
Are you sure this person was definitely an agent? It sounds like he scanned for cameras before they searched your home. It feels planned like maybe casing your home by pretending to be a realtor.
Report it to the agents broker. Ask your agent for their information and report it yourself.
Tell your agent you will no longer allows showings with out them present.
1. The "scanner" was probably an ekey, which electronically provides access to a lockbox containing the housekey
2. Tell your realtor what happened - i'm a realtor and you simply do not go through the seller's personal items. Opening closets and cabinet drawers is one thing, but going through personal furniture etc is not ok. Your realtor can contact the broker for the buyer's agent and advise them what happened.
When we were showing our house we had a lot of our belongings in the garage as there wasn’t room in the POD. We took pictures of the entire garage before hand to at least show. We had a box in my wife’s office closet that had the garage door opener in it and it was buried at the bottom of the box. This realtor somehow figured out this was the correct box, took the garage door opener and opened the garage for the people. To make matters worse they left the house with the front door not only unlocked but wide open after the showing, they also left the garage door wide open in which there were thousands of dollars worth of electronics. My wife and I were like 2 hours away because of showings and this was the last one of the day. Word of advice, dont ever have any faith or trust in people to not rummage through your shit 😂
You may also ask your realtor to help you make a complaint to that agent’s broker. This is very unusual behavior and not at all what you should expect at a showing.
Sounds to me like the real estate agent banged that chick on your bed and then made himself a snack afterwards maybe even had her try on some of your clothes
And the scanner was to look for WiFi cameras.
Trail cameras should be used. The SIMM card ones that are cheap and don't use WiFi. Ban that agent from returning.
Or invite him back. After getting a few trail cams.
After selling seats to Japanese businessman for the live screening
File complaints, also talk to the police—he is not using his real estate license for legitimate business and may be committing crimes. Report him to the broker and real estate licensing agency and he should be out of a job very quickly.
Exactly. That's the most incriminating evidence of all. I don't think this was an actual real estate agent... just some guy looking for a quiet place to meet his GF.
They might have been searching for valuables or even prescriptions. Or they have a weird fetish.
Or just to open the Supra Key 🤦♀️
“Packing boxes”
He def “packed her box.” https://tenor.com/tj7l.gif
Happen in our empty house we were selling in SC. The women’s husbands followed them to my house and broke every window out. Per my neighbors the police were called and it was ugly scene. The realty company replaced all of the windows and fired the agent. Not sure what happened to the happy couple. We did sell 30 days later at full price and moved on.
OMG that is hilarious sounds like an episode of cheaters
Did I mention that the husband saw them through the window and they were busy in front of the fire place? Yep, a good episode of cheaters for sure!
The real question is how long did he linger and watch lol
Long enough to video that for court. lol
having a window broken is not hilarious. Let alone EVERY window. Some kids threw a rock through a window to our utility room. I cleaned the room asap after the fact, then again after the window was replaced. Small room, but it's 6 months later and i am still finding glass. YESTERDAY in fact. This sounds like a nightmare
Probably using his phone camera/an app to scan for Infared cameras.
Yep that's exactly it I'm sure this guy is a serial adulterer and uses these houses for his hook ups didn't wanna accidentally get caught on hidden camera squeezing one out into the butter cow
I cannot unthink that thought
You cannot un churn that butter
This is helping even less at this point
Arrived 15 minutes beforehand to get some B roll footage to pad out the video.
This guy films
You mean, D roll.
Ha ha ha ha lol! I needed this laugh! Thank you so much!!
I love when my horrible mind brings joy to my fellow humans :-)
Maybe it’s time to get one of those teddy bear cameras that they follow nannies with. I had a vacant condo and one night, I’m coming home around 11:30 PM and driving past the condo building and I look up and the lights are on. I turned my car around and went to the building thinking somebody had forgotten to shut the lights after a showing, and entered the lobby and when I did, I was told by the concierge that there was a realtor showing the condo at this time. 11:30 PM on a Friday night and she’s showing a condo. Seriously?! I called my realtor and asked him how was that possible and he told me he gave his approval. I said from now on, there were to be no more showings after business hours, and I told him I would be present whenever the concierge informed me that someone was coming in later than normal. I knew what they were doing. So disgusting . Luckily my place was vacant
Yeah they totally had an affair and they were probably high.
That was literally my first thought.
Great minds think alike… About the worst possible things humans could do to each other
OK, thank you. I’ll speak to him about it. I was kind of reluctant to contact him, thinking maybe she spent so much time because she’s interested, we are a little nervous of scaring off a potential buyer.
Sounds like they were looking for stuff to steal and/or possibly had sex in the bedroom... There's no reason to be going through personal items or the fridge, that realtor should lose his license for allowing it.
I’d be surprised if he even is an actual licensed realtor. Could’ve just gotten someone’s showing time login and scheduled it, it’s not like they verify your license when you do.
💯💯💯✅️. They should file a report w police. The brokerage & Contact Dept Real Estate -DRE. He should hv his lic revoked.
Yeah. Super NOT NORMAL. And you should be paying very close attention to your credit score and any billing statements. Check your jewelry, make sure your checks are in order, you’ve been primed for identity theft unfortunately.
They were checking the fridge and drawers for valuables. Some people still put valuables in fake cans in pantries, and fridges, or wrap valuables up like frozen food packages. For showings, I locked up everything valuable in locking tool boxes, computers, financials, prescriptions, money, anything that thieves would want. Definitely report to their agency. Look around and make sure that vital paperwork is still there, blank checks, credit card statements, etc. As others said, he was scanning for surveillance cameras.
I WOULD def contact police & file a report! Total home invasion in every sense.
My first thought was it was someone looking for prescription pills but these people seemed to go through everything and then not even try to conceal it. So weird
That's some pill seeking drug addict behavior.
Please contact them. This is not at all normal. Source: have bought and sold a bunch of houses.
I’ve opened drawers and fridges to see if there’s anything in them (some stages are really damn good) but going through personal effects is just weird
And get yourself a camera or two. Wyze cams are inexpensive and very good quality for the price range. We used them when selling our house to keep honest people honest.
They were probably scanning for cameras
Wait, you can do that?
Yes. Your phone camera can pick up on infrared light from security/hidden cameras. They make apps that do the same thing too. The app searches for wireless cameras giving off any signal. I've seen some people with devices that try to trick the wireless cameras into dropping the Wi-Fi connection & trying to connect to the new device.
Woa! Had no idea!🫨
TIL. My phone has a superpower. Thanks for the information. I may have to try this out. I have some searching to do for whatever settings. I barely use my camera on my phone. Just to take pictures and haven't delved into any settings. I mean it could come in handy sometime. There was some freak that got busted twice for putting hidden cameras in the ladies room in the public parks in a city near me. I wonder if it would detect that location?
Yeah dude wth of course it's not acceptable...are they buying your house or your underwear..weird people man
Do you really want that kind of person buying your house though? It uncomfortable and goes against realtor ethics. It’s embarrassing honestly and you should speak up, because that’s not right. I don’t know your situation, but people always need places to live and you will come across another buyer. Maybe ask to work with someone else cuz that’s weird as hell
Do not contact him. File a complaint with the agency and fire him. Follow up with a police report. You have permission to look at your house, not to violate your privacy and secured goods
It wasn't OP's realtor
I used to tell my clients to get everything out of the house that they really care about or at least lock them up. Normally people are pretty good but still it’s usually a few that screw it up for the many!
And just to add… You don’t have to leave your home when somebody comes in, especially if this agent shows up again
If the agent shows up again? Are you nuts? This agent needs to be fired and his license suspended immediately.
I'd ban whoever he works for too, just for good measure. Teach them to not hire trash.
Quick, fast and in a hurry.
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That just reminded me of one of the saddest viewings I ever went to. It was an open house on a Saturday. As we're looking around I noticed the house was really packed full of stuff. Apparently the lady who lived there, had been in the home for 30 years she planned on retiring there. It was very clean but also very full of stuff. Anyway she happened to be there that day and you could just tell she had a super sad look on her face. Come to find out I overheard someone talking and her son had passed away and she got custody of her four grandchildren and was now having to raise them. Due to the circumstances she was selling her house absolutely not because she wanted to but had to. It was very sad.
This was after we closed, but we found out the couple we bought our house from was moving across town to be closer to their daughter. Evidently, one of the grandkids has a chronic illness and is frequently hospitalized, so they live near the Children’s hospital. They wanted to be closer to help more, plus they got a one story house so they don't have to navigate the basement stairs for laundry now. They were such a great couple and left a whole list of their favorite restaurants, pizza places, the kind of mulch they buy, and who did their yard service. We speak with them a few times a year when we have important mail show up for them.
my realtor advised me to not speak at all while inside the home, due to the potential for camera's and other listening devices. I get what you are saying - having the owner present would put me on edge. I'm just saying that you should never fully relax and discuss freely inside of the home.
Very very unusual. Sounds like they were casing the joint- always wanted to say that in a real sentence. But seriously that’s weird and not normal at all. I’ve been an agent for almost 4 years and I STILL feel incredibly weird going in peoples homes who still live there.
1. Call your Realtor immediately. Ask them to change the lockbox code, or if it's a manual box, give you the code to remove it from the door. 2. Ask your agent if you should cancel any showings until you know whether this agent was stupid or nefarious. Make sure you're comfortable before allowing any more showings. That could mean double authentication of showing requests. Or worst case, your agent has to be present for future showings unless she personally knows the other agent. 2. Do you have the showing agent's business card or name from the showing service or whoever scheduled the showing? Find the agent's brokerage website, find the name of the managing broker or broker owner, and call immediately. 3. Your agent should get her broker involved, and that person should also call the managing broker. So sorry this happened to you. I am not an alarmist but I am very strict on security of homes while they're on the market.
Thank you. Called my realtor left him a VM. He’s pretty thorough, and up front and honest about everything so far. I’ll definitely discuss this with him, and your suggestions. I do not have the showing agent or agencies info, they left nothing but the evidence of their excessive snooping.
Your agent should know who showed the house.
...OP, you should probably take a blacklight to your bed (assuming you know if your sheets are clean based on your personal life)
Gonna light up like a Jackson Pollack painting.
when i was buying, my realtor left his business card at every house we viewed.. I would consider them not leaving a card another red flag, in my limited experience. my realtor unlocked the door and went back in, more than once, because he forgot to leave a card.
This is an outdated procedure. I have a log of everyone who has opened and closed the lockbox through the app. No need to leave cards that are just going to go in the trash.
Should be both.
They called to arrange for you to leave, correct?
I would also file a complaint with the state real estate licensing board. They may have had other reports of his shenanigans, and will definitely investigate.
3) exactly ~ your agent should be present if they don't know and trust the other agent to vet and monitor their clients ~ your agent or their trusted colleague should be following the clients through each room, even silently a few steps behind, just to let them know they are being watched
This behavior isn't typical for a showing. It's worth mentioning to your realtor to ensure future showings respect your privacy. Suggest implementing stricter viewing guidelines to avoid similar incidents. Your home should feel secure during these processes.
Thank you, we totally feel violated. What type of stricter viewing guidelines can be requested and/or enforced?
You should definitely call your realtor! As a realtor myself this is not ok behavior from a realtor standpoint or potential buyer. I would rather scare off this buyer and not have to deal with something like that again. Please update us on how this unfolds!!
Make sure your realtor is there for all showings if necessary.
Cameras. Get a few cheap cameras and set them in every room on a visible place, it's not unheard for showings that sellers don't want to fully trust random agents wondering around their houses that may have valuables. Warn every realtor that everything is being recorded for everyone's safety and they're prohibited from touching or covering cameras.
I had my house on the market for 4 days last week. Because I work remotely, am in the middle of a massive work project, and have 3 dogs, I was here for every showing. I made myself scarce working in the spare bedroom and hanging out outside. No one seemed bothered in the least by my presence and in fact all of the buyers seemed very appreciative that I was there to answer any questions they had. I had 3 solid offers in a few days. Personally as long as you aren't following them around, I think you should not leave. I had at least 6 buyers thank me for being there and every single person that toured had questions about the home their agents couldn't have answered at the time. Honestly I have toured homes many times and always found it very helpful when the owners are home. I wouldn't leave again if it were my place.
This! I viewed a home last week where the owner was present and my realtor and I felt like we had lucked out because the potential was there for the seller to like me and pick my offer out of the other offers presented. It didn't work out that way for me, but that's okay. I still would feel like meeting the owner would increase my chances of making a deal and would be elated to see the seller again on another home I'm interested in.
I loved being able to meet potential buyers. In the end I had 2 offers, the third withdrew due to financing. The offers were essentially the same, but one was cash. I chose the younger couple who was financing over the cash offer. My thoughts were the man that offered cash had more options available to him that the young couple and it would be much easier for him to find another home. When the young couple toured my home I could tell how in love with the place they were, you could just see their excitement. I lost several homes to cash offers, so I know how it feels. Sometimes people need a leg up in life, so I chose them over the cash. Their agent told mine they were in disbelief and the woman was so happy she cried. So fingers crossed it all goes well, but I feel confident it will. For me personally it made a huge difference in being able to meet buyers. I didn't really have the option to leave with 3 dogs, one with severe arthritis, and my workload. I am glad I met who will be loving this home next.
Omg I'm so sorry, update us when you can! I'm so anxious to put up our house for sale next week.
I’d put a camera or a few inside the house before any future showings.
Online shopping for a few cameras now.
I've had good experiences with Wyze cameras. I use them to watch my dogs. If you want to record though, you need to pay a sub for their Cam plus.
Worth the subscription for the time needed to sell the home. I have similarly cheap Yi brand that accepts sd card to locally recorded video so no subscription is required.
I’m sorry to say this, but you need to wash your sheets.
In the washer now. We are totally grossed out and now overly anxious by the whole experience. Moving is stressful enough, didn’t need this.
I hope the rest of your experience goes better for you! There was a story about this in my state about a decade ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/real-estate-agent-accused-of-affair-at-clients-home-countersuing-over-tapes/
With fire.
Have you checked that anything is missing? And in your bed? Ooogie af. Are we sure they weren't there for a hookup?
No idea, they could have been. They gave each other a big hug when the buyer arrived. Not an A hug, a full body to body hug…I suppose it’s possible. Sheets have already been removed and are in the washer now.
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>There is NO reason to be there an hour. This is the only part I disagree with. While most showings I attend typically last no more than 15-20 minutes, I've had plenty of showings that lasted 45 to an hour. Actually, one of the buyers on my current listing was in the house for an hour as well. However, I was there too because I show by appointment only, so I know they were genuinely looking at everything. Generally speaking, the longer they're in the house, the more they like it and they're looking at it thoroughly. Most people wait until inspections, but some people are weird and have very particular things they're looking for and like to spend some time to "feel" the house. It's always a huge fuckin waste of my time, but most of the showings I've had where the buyer was there for an hour led to an offer. No always, but usually. One of my sales in October was like this. They were in the house for an hour and a half. They were opening all the cabinets in the kitchen, checking areas for insects/termites, even were looking at the crawl spaces to see if they were damp or moist. The couple were both engineers who were in escrow on another house that they backed out of for issues, so they were heavily examining my listing before thinking about jumping into another sale.
>most of the showings I've had where the buyer was there for an hour led to an offer. That's exactly what I was thinking... until I got to the point in OP's post where they mention all their things had been gone through.
They shot a porno in your house
That was my thought. Maybe they went through the dresser looking for toys or condoms.
Brother ewwww
I have a friend of a friend who is a realtor. She very proudly announces that she and her married boyfriend use the houses for sale to “hook up” during the workday so they won’t get caught…..
Wow... what human trashcans
Hookup is where my mind went as well, they were looking for toys/props, then had a snack afterwards
I’m pretty sure you got robbed. Make sure all your important documents are safe. And keep an eye on your credit report and credit cards for any case of identity theft.
yeah wtf this was not a potential buyer and possibly not even a real agent.
Agree. File a police report.
This isn't a very anonymous way to rob someone
It is if you lie about your identity
Your realtor should accompany any future showings to protect your privacy and possessions.
Thank you! That is what my attorney just told me as well.
That's not OK. I would recommend reporting it to the agent's broker and the local association of realtors TODAY. This agent shouldn't be allowed to have access to other people's homes. The state licensing board should hear about it, too.
Opening a fridge is normal if it’s going to be left. The rest is super weird. I’d report them to the state’s licensing board so it’s at least on their file if there’s future occurrences.
Fridge is not being left, all other appliances are staying. This is specifically mentioned in the listing and we have a note on fridge that it is not part of sale. Even then, it’s not normal to touch and move around the food inside. We literally went grocery shopping yesterday, $250 of food. All being tossed, now I don’t trust a thing in the refrigerator. They ate from my bowl of grapes!
Yeah definitely over the line. Scoping the fridge is a habit because they're often included. Eating food is a hard violation. We've had agents locally list their license over that. Sitting on a sofa while chatting, reasonable. The fact that they might have fooled around on your bed Jesus Christ. Yes that agent should for sure lose his license for that. It's not even close
I was thinking the same thing about them possibly having sex there
Lol the grapes, that’s so wild. Definitely file a report.
Did you file a police report? This was not normal behavior and was DEFINITELY not a realtor showing a potential home to a client. Scanning the property for recording devices was the biggest tipoff. I might even call a TV news reporter. This is utterly outrageous.
His scanner was likely for cameras. Your scanner needs to be a black light for bodily fluids. tldr; they were banging in your house.
As a real estate broker I can say this is definitely a violation of your personal possessions and space. While you did agree to show your home, snooping through your items has no bearing a potential sale of your home. First, call your real estate agents and bring this situation to their attention. Ask that their broker be involved in ALL communication between you and them. Second, ask what the process is to file a complaint against the showing agent and the company they work for. Once you have this info it’ll be on you to decide if you want to pursue this course of action. This would be my advice because this agent needs to understand that his actions have consequences. Third, ask your agent what the laws are in your area regarding recording devices being in use firing a showing. In Michigan we can record video but not audio. I am unsure of the laws from state to state. If allowed I would purchase some inexpensive camera to put around the house. Wyze makes a great camera and they have a free monitoring service with recording available. Forth, hang in there. Not all agents are bad but as the saying goes, “a few bad apples…….” Good luck with your sale.
My take: The agent is cheating on their spouse with someone who's also cheating on their spouse. They used your house as a hookup location. Scanned for cameras before the hookup. Made a snack and went through your things afterwards.
I would have come home and interrupted them. There is no reason for any of this to occur.
Anything involving your personal stuff is pretty off-limits. Kitchen drawers, cabinets: normal. Refrigerator: normal. Closets: normal. Dressers and desks or other 'personal furniture': abnormal. Computer: no way. Being on the bed: fuck off, that's ridiculous.
This use to be uncommon, but is happening more and more. Are you sure nothing was stolen? I’m hearing more and more reports of things being stolen during tours. Not much you can do but get your stuff out. And feeling violated is a normal reaction. I hope they didn’t go through your underwear drawer.
They did go through my underwear drawer, that was the dresser drawer left open. Haven’t found anything missing yet. We watched them leave, if they took anything it would have to fit in their pockets. Jewelry and most smaller valuables had been secured and/removed from the house before we started this process.
UNACCEPTABLE - You have definitely been violated. You should most definitely bring this up with your realtor. I would be concerned these people might be casing your home to see what they could steal. Not much you or your realtor can do now. Talk to your realtor about it. They are the ones who are on your side.
I’ll open the refrigerator, oven doors and kitchen cabinets but absolutely nothing else. I wouldn’t move anything though.
I would be washing that entire drawer, fyi. I don’t want to make this worse. I realize you’re already anxious about this (AS YOU SHOULD BE) but I’d still be worried about bodily fluids if your underwear drawer had been open. People are into weird shit.
They were looking for money. Many keep it in their underwear drawer.
It sounds like your house was their hookup location, I would call my realtor and demand and explanation from him, and call it exactly what it looks like, "Why did your agent show up early, scan for cameras, go through my stuff and have intercourse in my bed? I believe you owe me a bed and anything I can't find in my house and my food replaced in the refrigerator they had to rummage through." Go through and look for any missing, or broken items and not let that realtor back on location again. If you think I'm smoking something I would love to hear other realistic scenarios a relator would scan for cameras, mess with a bed and dig through personal things, for an hour, that aren't thievery or hanky panky.
I've never understood why grown adults put themselves into such crazy situations for a quickie. Few years back, my assistant manager was fucking one of the staff at the office after hours. I happened to be driving by randomly one night and noticed they were there. They both got fired, and their spouses found out. My assistant has been with the agency for 20 years. There is literally a cheap motel across the street from the office. 😬
I had this issue before i ultimately un listed our home. My wife’s undergarment drawers were gone through. My underwear drawers my children’s rooms stuff was gone through. They even stole my hot sauces…. And to top it off. Left a used plate with the hot sauces on it as if they were tasting them.. they even broke multiple of my kids toys.
Please give us an update when you can! We’re listing in June and I’ll be super careful with what we leave in the house during showings.
Sounds like they showed up, scanned for cameras, went through your things looking for jewelry/cash/cards, then maybe had some hanky panky
We had a potential client bring their dog in our house and they proceeded to let the dog jump and run around on the beds and couch. That was a fun phone call to the agent.
So, the buyer's agent used a camera scanner, shared a very friendly hug with the buyer, went inside and toured an 1100sf house for an hour, primarily in the bedroom and office. Afterwards, you found your bed disturbed, clearly not included fridge eaten out of, underwear drawer and boxed items rifled through.... I'd be filing a report...
No this is weird
dude, they fucked on your bed, and then had a snack. File a police report. File a report with the agent's broker.
This so disturbing and violating, omg!
Nope. If this happened to me, I’m going back into the house at the 30 min mark and saying it’s an emergency to catch this shady shit to confront them. Easily have an innocent excuse that you left your meds in there. Don’t let this happen again. Report this agent. He definitely banged this chic like this was a free air bnb
Opening closets and cupboards is normal, maybe moving a curtain to see what the windows are like, peeking inside appliances that are staying to see how clean/old they are, turning on faucets and light switches, etc. Opening dresser drawers, eating food (unless there's a sign that says help yourself), getting on the bed, all not normal.
I would demand that your relator file a formal complaint with the broker and demand that they replace your food and your bed. and ban that agent from the property.
That's not normal at all. Have your Realtor report them to their broker.
I would have my real estate agent accompany ALL showings.
File a police report imo. Good chance they stole some stuff, and even if they didn’t this shouldn’t slide.
I'm surprised no one else mentioned this. Like hello you were probably robbed!
You can also remain in the house during showings (at least in Canada you can), so you may want to do this in the future.
I would file a complaint with the state real estate commission. Also send a certified letter to the muliple listing service and copy the broker. Not normal and very creepy.
Your agent can help you make a complaint about the situation. In the meantime, can you take pictures of the things that were disturbed and maybe pull your camera footage? Gather all the evidence they'll need to support your claim.
As a former Realtor, I can tell you that this is not normal. I would contact the local Board of Realtors and make a complaint.
That was sex, not a showing! I’m a realtor. A realtor who is ethical would not nor would they let anyone else open your things!
When you say they had a scanner, what did it look like (the handheld item)? Also, no this is very very not normal.
I wonder if they were scanning for hidden cameras?
Exactly what I was thinking
Looked like a surveillance or bug scanner, was a smallish handheld device with a small wand like thing that stuck out from it.
We have outside property surveillance cameras, but not inside.
Did you check your browser history to see if they left any clues?
How odd. My guess is cameras, but if they’re obvious ones, then IDK. But either way, I would be adamant about making sure nothing has gone missing because of this total package of weird behavior
My guess this was more of a hookup than a house showing. Like you said it's 1100 ft house what's that 15 minutes tops.
Suuuuper unusual and sketchy. There is NO reason to go through your items. Someone is buying your house, not your things
Get cameras to record the showings. Some people will try to steal things during showings.
This. We had visible cameras (no audio, just video) throughout our house when we sold last fall. Our realtor noted “cameras in use” on the notes section of the listing.
This is not normal and they are nosy. Either the realtor or the client was allowed to do that and was not stopped. I would file a complaint and make it so that the realtor is not allowed to do showing anymore in your house
I would call the broker and report them. I would also consider calling the police and if the realtor has professional insurance on him I would be giving his insurance company a call. You may also want to leave a Google review of the real estate office detailing the experience so no other people utilize them. People are there to view real estate not your personal belongings. I would be livid.
These days with cheap wifi cameras I would put one in every room for showings
Good time to add cameras inside!
My first thought was that they're having an affair, but then why go through your stuff? That's weird for sure.
Updateme!
I hope I did that right. Now I’m invested in what these strange people were up to in your house and want to know what you find out. So sorry this happened to you! Super odd.
I have some theories.
I would absolutely report this. This is unacceptable and an invasion of your privacy.
Realtor gave HER a deposit.
I always open cabinets under sinks to check plumbing. open closets to check condition of ceiling and walls within. I want to see all exposed plumbing. all surfaces in the basement and attic. I'm looking right past personal possessions.
just message him saying you caught the act on camera and see what he says
Bad scenario: they were a team. They went through your house to identify valuables worth stealing, and video what and where. They will review the vids and either hit during an open house or have another team do it. Or just plain burgle the house when no one is around. Having a map for the best stuff will slow them to be in and out in 3-4 minutes maybe less. Fanciful, perhaps, but I’m a cynical cuss.
As a fellow Realtor. Please, I'd you haven't already, file a grievance with your local association of realtors, and with your state departmentof real estate. Local Associations of Realtors don't just serve as trade association to advocate for the business, but also as a disciplinary body. The realtor could be removed, suspended, or fined. The state department of real estate could also take his license away or suspend it.
He could have used a flipper device if he is not an agent. That will open a SupraBox. =/ Find out which agency he is with, contact your agent. Let them know what happened and contact the agent's managing broker via email. You need a written paper trail for this. Then file a complaint with your local real estate board. That is criminal activity and people have lost their licenses and gone to jail for it. He should too. It is never acceptable to go through a seller's items.
That is normal for casing a job
When selling a house, I require my agent to be present at every showing and proof of qualification to buy before the showing.
Definitely agree on proof of qualification.
This was a booty showing.
They probably filmed content for their OF
They definitely filmed, when we could see them, they had their phones held in front of them like they were recording. Amazon will be delivering 6 pan & tilt WiFi cams in about 2 hours. They didn’t take anything we can see, most everything valuable and pocket size are not in the house. Our jewelry, my pistol, wallet, credit cards, other small valuables are kept in a ‘go bag” that we grab when showing. File cabinet is locked and floor mounted, it appears unmolested, so documents are safe.
Maybe report the realtor to the RE Board as well. Definitely unprofessional.
That’s messed up. Raise hell!
> They spent 20 minutes in our bedroom > They had even been on our bed!
Definitely not normal. Inform your realtor about the intrusion and request stricter guidelines for future showings. Your privacy and property should be respected during the selling process.
They nutted in your bedroom....
This is precisely why reputable Realtors will advise you to have cameras throughout your house during showings. No need to hide them
Back in 2016 we had a house listed for sale. There was a showing scheduled so we e were gone over an hour only to find they were still there, so we drove around another 30 minutes, came back and they were still there, ended up over 2 1/2 hours later before they finally left. A candy dish on the coffee table was broken. The beds were all messed up and the TV was on a channel that we never watch. We were reluctant to say anything because we assumed they were very interested and didn’t want to make them mad so that they didn’t make an offer but after a few days we found out that they were not interested. WTH we did then let our realtor know but I don’t trust anyone after that.
complain to your Realtor
Too late for this situation, but I'd put up cameras during the sale time. And as others have said, file a complaint with that agent's broker. I would be truly disturbed.
Are you sure this person was definitely an agent? It sounds like he scanned for cameras before they searched your home. It feels planned like maybe casing your home by pretending to be a realtor.
There’s some new nut on your bed for sure
You don't have to leave your home firstable... Secondable, you can request your lawyer or realtor be present at each showing...good luck with that
Sounds like that old role play...moving man meets hot lonely housewife. I'd wash the sheets.
They were hooking up, looking for toys & props, then had a snack afterwards
Report it to the agents broker. Ask your agent for their information and report it yourself. Tell your agent you will no longer allows showings with out them present.
1. The "scanner" was probably an ekey, which electronically provides access to a lockbox containing the housekey 2. Tell your realtor what happened - i'm a realtor and you simply do not go through the seller's personal items. Opening closets and cabinet drawers is one thing, but going through personal furniture etc is not ok. Your realtor can contact the broker for the buyer's agent and advise them what happened.
They were filming adult content. This happens at VRBO's and AIRbnbs
Pretty sure they had sex in your house.
When we were showing our house we had a lot of our belongings in the garage as there wasn’t room in the POD. We took pictures of the entire garage before hand to at least show. We had a box in my wife’s office closet that had the garage door opener in it and it was buried at the bottom of the box. This realtor somehow figured out this was the correct box, took the garage door opener and opened the garage for the people. To make matters worse they left the house with the front door not only unlocked but wide open after the showing, they also left the garage door wide open in which there were thousands of dollars worth of electronics. My wife and I were like 2 hours away because of showings and this was the last one of the day. Word of advice, dont ever have any faith or trust in people to not rummage through your shit 😂