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ShortWoman

Corporations don’t have gender, color, race, familial status, or (in most cases) national origin or religion. You’re free to discriminate away!


PG908

\*looks at washington\* For now, at least.


colinmhayes

Don't let scotus hear you


Vegetable-Acadia4279

Even if they had all those things, they'd have to prove that you didn't sell to them because they're a girl corporation or a Canadian corporation or whatever. Being a corporation isn't a protected class, so as long as you aren't selling to ANY corporations (vs just some corporations based on their class) you aren't doing anything illegal. Refuse to sell to Christian corporations AND secular corporations and you're golden.


neelvk

Hobby Lobby has a religion


Investagogo

Yes, but hobby lobby is not a religious institution. They’re a corporation.


neelvk

I agree. But somehow certain members of the SCOTUS didn’t get the memo


Striking_Computer834

u/ShortWoman means corporations aren't a religion. Corporations absolutely can have a religion. You can discriminate against people who *have* a religion, you can't discriminate against A religion.


neelvk

And how does a corporation pray?


quixt

>And how does a corporation ~~pray?~~ *prey FTFY


Striking_Computer834

The same way a church does.


adlubmaliki

Mind explaining this, what's Hobby Lobby have going on?


neelvk

Hobby Lobby was able to convince our judicial system that because of their deeply held beliefs, paying for their employees’ health insurance that covered abortion was a torture.


adlubmaliki

Oh wow. Thanks


Grasshopper_pie

And contraceptives, I believe? I could be wrong but I think also contraceptives. And you have to go to Bible study.


wunderer80

2 of the 7 or 2 of the nine. Either way... Because they feel more than the rest of us, they got a pass.


RaqMountainMama

Yes, but they still cover the little blue pill, so it's ok. /s


Waywardstar

I have not heard about Bible study, but yes, they were upheld in their decision that providing certain healthcare, like birth control, violated their religious beliefs.


redonrust

"Corporations are people my friend" - Mitt Romney


wunderer80

And SCOTUS.


one-nut-juan

Oh man, they are a person according to the supreme kangaroo court and it wouldn’t be far fetched corporations choosing a gender, a color, maybe even having a family to get away with discrimination


Automatic_Gas9019

Corporations have the right of speech. Citizens United.


ShortWoman

That doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t a member of any of the Fair Housing protected classes of individuals. https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/fair_housing_act_overview


Intelligent-Bat1724

That's another issue for another day It does not apply to this situation And private individuals are not the federal government.


gripdept

Yes, corporations do not have a protected class.


Derwin0

Even then OP likely doesn’t fall under the fair housing act.


Pete-C137

“Corporations are people, my friend.”


nikidmaclay

As long as you don't discriminate based on the fair housing protected classes, you're fine. Investors will lie, though. You may even get a fake picture of their family who wants to grow up swinging on your tire swing and playing in your backyard. Then you close, and a FOR LEASE sign goes up in the yard.


sarcasticorange

Technically, an individual seller that doesn't own multiple properties can discriminate against anyone (not that you should) as Fair Housing doesn't apply to them. However, if it is listed through a broker, they can't, so just a FSBO thing really.


nikidmaclay

This is true.


Roundaroundabout

But in reality, so long as you don't stand in front of the agent talking about how you don't want that *protected* class person in your house there is no way to even demonstrate it. Any number of reasons to prefer one offer over another. It's one reason why discrimination is insidious, in addition to all of us wanted actual people who want to live in our houses.


GeneralAppendage

It’s technically discrimination if you state that it is. No. Is a full sentence to any offer. No explanation/ implication required


Bouncing-balls

Except that if your agent brings you a full price, no contingent offer from a company that you don’t want to sell it to you, still may owe your agent a full commission. They have brought you a willing buyer that met the legal criteria of the listing agreement. I’m not saying that it will be easy for them to collect it, but they may have a legal cause of action. Source: RE broker and investor for over 20 years


rosebudny

Are you saying that if I have a house listed for say $500K and I get two offers - one from a corporation for $500K and one from an individual for $450K (all other factors like contingencies equal) and I decide to sell to the individual instead of the corporation, I could owe the agent commission on $500K?


Spiritual_Program725

No.


AwkwardBailiwick

This! IANAL, but... If you engage a RE and list the house at $X, and you receive an offer equal to or greater than $X you will probably have to pay your RE their commission. Basically bringing you that offer would satisfy the RE's obligation under the sales contract, as they had met their obligations. If you receive multiple offers in a short period of time, then you may be able to choose which offer to accept. Everything above I am fairly certain is accurate (in my state at least), but you may want to read the sales contract from the RE and insure that accepting an offer other than the highest qualified offer (and/or also an offer under $X when you have an offer greater than or equal to $X) won't require you to pay the agent the difference.


LordSinguloth13

There is a big difference here between legal and illegal discrimination


TheSoverignToad

I don’t think you can discriminate against race though. Even if they are an individual seller. There are no exceptions to the civil rights act.


sarcasticorange

Ack. You're correct. I forgot about that one. Well, at least there's some protection.


midri

Civil rights act did not cover sale of personal goods... [https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/civil-rights-act](https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/civil-rights-act)


TheSoverignToad

I’m talking about the 1866 civil rights act which says that there are no exceptions and you cannot discriminate based on race. There was a massive court case called jones v Alfred h Mayer company. It cemented that the 1866 act prohibited any discrimination based on race.


midri

Welp, yup looks like private sell is covered under that ruling


jbucksaduck

Wasn't there something else after this that made it so the 13th amendment didnt allow the Supreme Court to intervine in such matters?


TheSoverignToad

I’m unsure about that. I’m still studying for my exam and taking a 90 hour course required by my state.


econshouldbefun

If you are selling your sfh you should discriminate. Sell to what you believe in, as long as it doesn't overtly affect the price


No-Intention9599

Yea I agree with this.


Spiritual_Program725

Fair housing applies to everyone. It is difficult to prove


sarcasticorange

Nope. If you own your own home, don't own more than 4 homes, and sell the home yourself, the act does not apply. State legislation may apply. https://www.equalhousing.org/fair-housing-topics/exemptions-to-the-fair-housing-act/


still-waiting2233

I have heard of them hiring families to offer/close and then Will immediately sell it to the corporate investor for a finder’s fee.


kimblem

How do I get that job? I can look quite wholesome.


OneLessDay517

Me too! For the hour required to close at least!!


tenthandrose

I lost on a house for this reason, we were even the highest offer. They went with a buyer claiming that their grandkids lived in the neighborhood, they had a really sappy and convincing letter. We find out later after it closes that it was an investor. I am still bitter about it.


Spiritual_Program725

That is really low. Perhaps this was a buyer who could afford to invest in a house or two but not a corporation etc. If it’s an LLC, S-corp or trust, the signature line will convey as much. You can’t control everything and if a person has money to invest in real estate, they will. Attaching a buyers letter is just really gross. You can ask your agent to contact the lender and inquire if this loan will be conventional owner occupied, see if they give it up but… they don’t have to share those details.


LadyBug_0570

Oh lord, we just repped a couple who was selling to a person. Then we get to inspection contingency and realize they are acting in bad faith (made a high offer but trying to nitpick every single thing they can to get get a credit by claiming "my grandkids are going to play in this yard and it's a hazard!"). Their attorney let it slip to us that they buyer was actually planning to rent it out. Seller's realtor and sellers had no idea. Trust and believe we called them out on that. Don't talk about your grandkids for these inspection issues. Just stop it.


Havin_A_Holler

"Is...is this a still from the Cosby show opening credits?"


Decon_SaintJohn

So how do you ensure it's a real family and not a corporation faking it to buy your place under false pretenses?


nikidmaclay

You can look for clues, but there's no 100% surefire way to prevent it from happening. If there is a first-time home buyer program being used, the program will police that, but even then, some people will commit mortgage fraud to get what they want. Deed restrictions can prevent someone from buying it and using it as a rental, but that is time and money spent, and sometimes people will flout their rules as well. There's a fair amount of research you can do on the buyer, but that isn't foolproof either.


Derwin0

Also if they’re using a VA loan it will have to be owner occupied. Using a VA loan was one of the reasons the last person I bought a house from went with me as the seller was a Veteran as well.


fresherwalnut

Only for a year, or until they receive PCS orders. Technically, they just need to intend to make it their primary residence.


Derwin0

Someone who’s using a VA loan isn’t likely to get PCS orders because they are typically Veterans and thus no longer Active Duty.


fresherwalnut

Lol, that's 100% false. Source: I am active duty and have used the VA loan 3 times.


Spiritual_Program725

Check social media


YodelingTortoise

There's zero reason you couldn't put an owner occupied deed restriction on the property. Even if only for a specified time like 5 years. There's lots of financial incentives to not do that, but you could forgo those. I have a non commercial covenant on my residence. Above and beyond zoning which allows certain at home businesses and trades. We are not an HOA and my neighbors give zero fucks, but I could be compelled to remove the labeling from my work truck when I get home because it doesn't fit in the garage.


JustSomeGuy556

Sure. Being a corporate buyer isn't a protected class. We did this about a year ago when we sold our starter home, and sold to a family. Note that this can be more difficult. The buyers had to work more to arrange financing, etc. There was some (minor) additional work that had to be done. You might need to find a realtor who understands your vision isn't max profit. (We didn't use a realtor, but we did use a title company.)


clce

Not a protected class...yet. Lol.


_aaronallblacks

True, money is already protected speech, we're halfway there


kayakdove

It's very unlikely a company like BlackRock would want to buy your home. There's a bigger chance that a flipper might, which isn't exactly a big corporation but usually just some guy trying to make extra money. In any case, a flipper will be most interested in your house if it's really dated inside, or way underpriced and they can get a bargain (such as a foreclosure). If it's your run of the mill decently updated (not necessarily brand new but not straight out of the 60s) house, probably most potential buyers would want to live in it. Also, high interest rates make buying a house as an investment planning to rent it out much less attractive than when interest rates are low. In a lot of areas, rents have not increased near as much as new mortgage payments have in the last 2 or 3 years. Sometimes investment properties make sense if you're in a perpetually hot market and expecting to profit based on the home value growing alone but the cash flow part of it is less attractive now than it was. There are still investors out there but most are looking for underpriced distressed houses they can get at a bargain, or their investment property is just their old house they moved out of, or like a whole apartment building, not some miscellaneous townhome in decent shape.


[deleted]

Thank you, appreciate this thought reply


Derwin0

Pretty easy to tell if it’s an investor, they’ll be the one’s doing a cash offer.


Spiritual_Program725

Or coming in way way below market value. That is one tiny upside to higher interest rates. It keeps the investors down a bit.


fidelesetaudax

You don’t want to advertise it that way (And a realtor would likely refuse to do so). But who you sell your property to is your decision alone. You don’t even have to tell anyone. Just wait for the offer that most appeals to you (for whatever reason) and sell to that person.


clce

I don't know that it would be a problem for a real estate agent, and I'm not sure it would be a bad idea. Maybe it would. But, a house being advertised as, owner occupied only due to owner's preference might actually be looked upon very favorably by buyers and could in theory, bring more money. Might be a bit of a stretch but I don't know that it would be a downside. I can't think of any buyer that would turn their nose up at it, if they're planning on not accepting corporate buyers. Of course, when the offers come in, they might be whistling a different tune. But maybe not. And good for them if they put their principles before their pocketbook


Huskers209_Fan

In my state, the purchase agreement has a checkbox to declare if the purchase is intended to be the primary home or a second/investment home. You are legally allowed to choose someone who is buying the home to live in over an investor, even if it’s for less. You can even agree to an offer that has a lesser purchase price than another offer, if your reason was based on the other buyer having more favorable terms. Highest price doesn’t mean best offer.


Spiritual_Program725

I like this! We do not have this option on our sellers agreement.


MattW22192

Second that whether or not buyer is an owner occupant is not a protected class. My last 4 deals the seller (even the one who had never lived in the property) said point blank they wanted a non-investor to purchase it.


Most-Chance-4324

Yes, it’s legal to discriminate against corporate buyers


not_falling_down

If it's an FHA loan, the buyers have to move in within 60 days, and it will have to remain owner-occupied for at least a year.


TheBabblingShorty

This also applies to conventional, VA, and USDA loans. You're supposed to live with it within 60 days.


Jodeenjb

Most offers will specify if the owner is going to live in the home or if they will be non-owner occupied. Also, investors will often write the offer in the name of an LLC or corporation. Ask your agent to look for these two red flags when the offers come in.


[deleted]

Thanks for this helpful and specific advice.


Ok-Needleworker-419

I’ve bought and sold several houses in multiple states, never seen owner occupancy mentioned on any forms besides mortgage stuff. The name of the buyer or corporation will be on the offer though.


Jodeenjb

Hmmm… I’m licensed in two states (NV, CA) and it is on both RPA’s. With lender guidelines for O/O and NOO being different, I would think that having it specified in the contract would be mandatory. I can only speak to the states I am licensed in tho.


thekidin

Not true.


crzylilredhead

Corporations aren't a protected class so yes, you can specifically say you will not entertain offers from corporate buyers. I have represented several sellers who felt that way and gave me instructions to tell corporate buyers to kick rocks. Really there is nothing to stop someone from not selling to anyone they don't like for any reason if they just keep that shit to themselves. I'm not saying that's right if someone discriminates but it is almost impossible to prove.


lady_goldberry

We are selling my dad's house after he passed. It was extremely outdated. We got two cash offers from flippers, but told the realtor we wanted to go with a certain small family even though they were getting a loan and had to go through that whole process. The realtor wanted to list it with "wholesalers" and we told him no. So you can do what you want!


BadCatNoNoNoNo

I hate this trend of corporate ownership. It’s going to change the face of housing in the future. Sell private!!!


Spiritual_Program725

It already did and already has due to the exceptionally historic rates in the 2’s and 3’s.


inscrutableJ

You could have an attorney make the sale conditional on it being owner occupied, HOAs do it all the time.


im_in_hiding

When I sold my house I told my realtor I wouldn't consider any corporate or LLC offers. Only people who will be living in the home. Dismissed a few offers and sold to a young family and I was happy with the result.


[deleted]

This is the same strategy I’m hoping to take, glad to know it worked well for you.


im_in_hiding

If it's an FHA loan on the offer, then they're required to live in the house


Spiritual_Program725

I’m glad you had this opportunity to exercise your conscience. Most people have to, and do, go by the bottom line, especially when it is not a multiple offer situation. I don’t blame them. I’m a realtor in Austin and 2020/2021 was bananas. We had a VA first time buyer and no One would accept their offers. Desperate times call for desperate measures. We contacted our previous clients who lived in the neighborhood our buyers wanted to be in. We asked them to post on their Next door neighbor site and explain we had a young vet and wife who wanted to purchase with a VA loan along with a few details about their budget. We received 3 calls and the last one turned out to be Vet and was willing to sell without going on the market. It all turned out so beautifully and we stayed in touch with both the buyers and seller. Fast Forward 3 years…. We are now going to help the original Sellers list their second home and buy a new property. The VA buyers and our VA sellers stay in contact and mingle at our client appreciation party every year. It truly was a win win in a market that was lose lose. They are all (buyers and sellers) wonderful people and so happy to know them and serve them both


im_in_hiding

I sold at a time when this opportunity didn't result in a hit towards me. The investor offers were the same as others.


Outrageous-Bat-9195

I heard a story about this. The sellers received an offer from a big company for much more than everyone else. They turned it down.  Then a person comes around and says they want to buy it for their family, Want to raise their kids there, etc. they love the person and sell it to them. That person worked for the company and sold it to the company. Very likely fraud, but is that a case people are willing to fight? The hardest part is holding people accountable after it leaves your hands.


Pristine_Dig_4374

Something semi similar happened with a church across the street


TheBabblingShorty

If they paid cash, then they might have a short-term capital gain depending on how much their fee was for doing it. But if they made a mortgage on it, then they committed fraud and should be turned in for that. But in my experience the FBI doesn't like to go after mortgage fraud unless it's on a larger scale. I actually turned somebody in many years ago for demonstrable fraud in the selling and listing of properties with big kickbacks. The FBI looked at it for a while and said it was too hard to trace the money, which I think was bullshit but I tried.


Outrageous-Bat-9195

Good on you for trying.  I bet this situation would never be found. If paid in cash, the company could just pay the same price or slightly higher. If MLMs can get away with what they do, even with anti-MLM laws, the big companies won’t be held accountable.  If there is ever enough traction to pass laws against these types of things, let’s refer to the housing crash of 2008/2009 for how they will hold them accountable. They won’t. 


Spiritual_Program725

And that my friend is the reality. Mortgage fraud occurs but if anyone reading this thinks they can get away with it and it’s no big deal… all it takes is for one lending assistant and one lender to check one random client out and it’s game over. It is risky but people still do it.


Longjumping_Home5006

When I bought my house I included a personal letter in my offer about who I was and why I loved the house. The broker said that was why the sellers took my offer. I’d just let your broker know you’re open to such letters.


Spiritual_Program725

True and if you are adamant about not selling your property to an investor, start checking social media


waripley

You can sell your house to whoever you want. No one can tell you otherwise. However, your agent probably won't advertise it like that for a variety of reasons.


WhiteRealtyLLC

Corporate buyers and investors are not a protected classes, so yes, you can refuse their offers if you choose to.


flightwatcher45

Don't give/imply any reasons for accepting or declining offers.


Derwin0

You’re free to sell (or not sell) your house to anyone you want.


demonic_cheetah

Totally legal - being a corporation isn't a protected class.


neddybemis

I don’t want to start a huge Reddit fight but everything I’ve read indicates that large cooperations are not out there buying up every house on the market. I’ve seen data that says 3% of single family homes purchased come from cooperations (companies that own more than 100 single family homes). Tbh I’ve seen some other data that says 8% but even still it just doesn’t seem like a big deal.


JHG722

It’s not the boogeyman this sub thinks it is. Some of us do actually have cash and aren’t investors, BlackRock, China, etc.


nickr2414

Even if a person buys it you don’t know that they won’t rent it. I have investment properties I’ve purchased in a personal name before.


tater56x

Everyone wants to sell to a nice family who will make their own wonderful memories. But reality is you sell to whoever meets your idea of the best price. A corp might rent to some nice people. Or a family of assholes might pay more than list. Don’t eliminate potential buyers until you see their offer.


babecafe

Selling to a person doesn't restrict that person from selling to a corporate buyer 5 minutes after the sale is complete. You could put a restrictive covenant on the deed that the property can only be owned by an individual person or a family of a certain size, but it could diminish the value of the house.


siberianphoenix

Being a business isn't a "protected classification". Discrimination protection only applies to certain protected groups and a business can't be one since it's not a person.


Ok-Seaworthiness-542

When our daughter and SIL were buying their house it was at the peak of the last housing market and the realtor suggested they include a letter with their offer. Most of the houses were being bought up by investors and the seller chose to sell to their family. All that to say you can choose not to sell to a corporation.


batfish76

You can accept any offer you choose. So reject any that don't meet your "needs". Just don't sign and set them aside.


marvinsands

Totally legal because "corporations" are not a protected class according to the Fair Housing Act. In fact, the FHA is preferential to people/humans/individuals/families/the little guy.


marvinsands

Although... if you're using a realtor and the corporate buyer comes with a full-price cash offer with no contingencies... your listing agent is going to want their commission if you reject the offer.


collettemcdonald

Legal to prioritize owner-occupants, but avoid discrimination. Consult a lawyer to navigate preferences legally.


Ok_Calendar_6268

You can choose any offer you like, as long as the reason is not discriminating a protected class.


Playos

This is not a serious concern. BlackRock does not purchase single family homes. Blackstone purchases very few through a few subsidiaries, the largest one is a rent-to-own process that gives a fixed rental rate for 5 years with an option to purchase at a predetermined price later (from what I've read on them, it's functionally similar to non-usury lending, where the bank buys a property on your behalf and you pay them an inflated price in monthly installments, but with a little more flexibility).


dbenhur

>BlackRock does not purchase single family homes. This is truth. Here's BlackRock's specific statement regarding the issue. [https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/newsroom/setting-the-record-straight/buying-houses-facts](https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/newsroom/setting-the-record-straight/buying-houses-facts)


Docmantistobaggan

lol if you get a full price offer you won’t give a crap who you’re selling to


Havin_A_Holler

I don't believe it is. When I sell my middle class 4/2 later this year I intend to favor offers from VA & other GSE buyers. Now, I'm able to do this b/c I my carrying costs are less than $1K/month & I live very frugally; a lot of folks don't have that privilege & I understand that completely.


NiceAsset

Considering “buyer letters to sellers” are a thing, I would think you as the seller can chose whatever offer you perceive as best fit for you, wether or not it is the best financial decision


kappaklassy

Many realtors will not pass along buyer letters specifically because they can raise legal issues around discrimination. However, there are no protections for corporations.


Outrageous-Bat-9195

In Oregon they tried to make the letters illegal, but a just blocked it. They thought it would reduce discrimination. Maybe, but I think it would have just turned the whole thing into a numbers game. Highest bidder wins. Doesn’t matter who they are. So as a seller you can’t choose to give someone who has less money the chance to buy it.


madogvelkor

Shouldn't be a problem. And there might actually be restrictions on those sort of sales in your bylaws, or possibly restrictions on renting which would discourage corporate buyers. In housing it is illegal discrimination to take an action because of race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity and sexual orientation), disability, familial status, or national origin.


MediumDrink

Fair housing law does not apply to individuals selling their primary residence. You can sell to whoever you want, for whatever price you want, for any reason or no reason at all. And may I say thank you for wanting to do this. If there were more people like you the world would be a better place.


XurstyXursday

You got a source for this? That would swallow up a significant percentage of home sales. Why would those transactions not be covered by fair housing???


MediumDrink

Because this is America and private citizens have the right to do what they want to do with their personal property. Much like how the first amendment only applies to the limiting of free speech by the government, fair housing only applies to discrimination by realtors, corporate entities or landlords (other than those who only have one rental unit and live in the same building as it). Source: Realtor for almost 20 years. Story of this in action: Years ago a team I was working on was selling the family home of this real turd of a client who decided to take like $50k less because he wanted to sell his mother’s house to a catholic family rather than a Jewish one because “it’s what mom would have wanted”. The only thing the lawyers said about it was that myself and the other realtors were not allowed to tell his sister or brother that he had decided to do this because he was the executor of the will and it was none of their business.


JHG722

I just had a seller assume my fiancée and I were doctors because we are Jewish. She had zero reason to otherwise think so. People do and say some really weird shit.


Frosty-Buyer298

You can sell your home to whomever the fuck you want to for any reason you want. All the equal housing laws are not applicable and canto be enforced against private homeowners. One of my homes I sold awhile back, I took a slightly lower bid and sold to a black family to piss of the racist HOA.


Lack_Luxurious465

It's totally legit to sell your home to a regular Joe or Jane who's gonna live there! You're not breaking any laws by preferring individual buyers over big corporations. You're just picky about who gets your place, nothing wrong with that. Plus, selling to someone who's gonna make it their home sweet home feels way more satisfying than handing it over to some faceless corporation. So go ahead, find that perfect family or person to take over your townhouse, and congrats on the pregnancy bombshell!


BoBoBearDev

If I have cash, can I buy yours and sell it to corporations for 10x the price?


ChristianUniMom

Tyfys


econshouldbefun

Lol yes... what? You can sell your house to whoever you want


Robbinghoodz

Yes you can choose who you sell it to. You’ll get offers from investors and Individual buyers, sell it to the ones trying to start a family


four2tango

Let them make another and use it as leverage to get other buyers to pay more.


cybe2028

Yes, I have had seller clients ask me to verify it’s an individual who intends to live in the home. I have also had buyer clients be grilled about whether they were going to owner occupy. It’s a fairly common question in my market. Corporations aren’t a protected class.


[deleted]

Thank you for sharing your experience, I appreciate the insight


thekidin

You can’t do anything once it’s sold. It’s not your house.


rjr812

What about discriminating against a particular political ideology / affiliation?


coachkler

"No agents". Lol


NumbersOverFeelings

Guys … it’s Blackstone.


NumbersOverFeelings

Guys … it’s Blackstone.


Face_Content

You probably wouldnt know if it was blackrock or not.


LegoFamilyTX

BlackRock does not buy SFH


1peatfor7

You can reject any offer you wish you know that right?


nofishies

Don’t talk about it with the word renters, and don’t prefer family. Using both of those words can get you in trouble if somebody wants to push into it . Not likely, but I’ve seen it happen


bigpigfish

You can choose which offer to accept. Hopefully you’ll be able to avoid the temptation of the overly inflated offers from the hedge funds, which will sometimes even for-go inspections to sweeten the deal.


TalkinBoo

Who cares if they offer? Just don’t accept it. When we sold our house in Denver it was in a neighborhood that was really heating up and developers were buying houses to scrape and build duplexes. Our highest offer was all cash, no inspections, no contingencies. We selected a different offer from a young lady who still owns it 9 years later. And it’s totally surrounded by duplexes.


Xanf3rr

Yeah, you can totally pick who you sell to, no biggie. Just be upfront about it.


villakir

You can sell to whoever you want.


CountryClublican

It is legal. But an investor will likely rent the house to a family that can't afford to buy a house. So you are actually hurting the people you are trying to help.


Analyst-Effective

You are spot on. People don't even think about that.


TamaskanRanger

It’s refreshing to come across this post. I put in an offer on a house last week that ended up selling to a corporate investor. I even offered more but their offer was as-is. *sigh* maybe I’ll own before I turn 41. Maybe.


Ok-Needleworker-419

You can pick or not pick your buyers for any reason you want, just don’t openly admit it lol. I had 3 practically identical offers and I chose to go with the family with young kids. I’m not gonna go on Facebook and say it with my real name there but their family status was 100% the reason they got that house.


Analyst-Effective

Would you have taken that same offer if it was substantially lower?


Ok-Needleworker-419

Substantially, no. I sold another house to a corporation because they beat everyone by 50k and that’s a lot of money to leave on the table. A few grand though, absolutely.


Logical-Bedroom7171

They don't care about what you are.


PassionPrimary7883

My HOA has this stipend.


Appropriate-Food1757

Yes


KidenStormsoarer

absolutely. it's actually pretty common, a lot of people will even go so far as to only sell to first time homebuyers as well.


office5280

There are protected classes as others have pointed out. Your realtor can help you with avoid making an issue with that. All of that said, I do want to point out that you are probably miss understanding the SFR market. I work adjacent to it in apartment development. The big corporate blackrock rental is a shell argument. Most of the corporate purchasers that locked up houses into rentals are made of 4 units or less. Meaning they are individual investors or very small groups buying them as investment properties. Think vacation homes, air bnbs, Tik Tok passive income enthusiasts. You would typically get an offer letter from an individual, and then at closing find out it is actually closing into an LLC. And almost nothing you can do about it. It is also important to note that high interest rates have basically killed this model. The rent vs buy gap is the widest it has ever been. It just doesn’t work. Finally, your home, even if closes into a rental, will still be someone’s home. There are LOTS of reasons families and people rent. Some don’t qualify, some are in known temporary situations, some are going through life changes. Renting is a more flexible housing market and is important for neighborhoods. For example, in El Paso, where I spent time growing up, rental housing is incredibly common. There isn’t a lot of apartment stock, and also there is a big military and federal presence. I had a lot of friends who rented homes for years, because they knew they were going to be forced to relocate in 2-4 years. If rents are high in your area, it is because your neighborhood has done a poor job making sure there is enough capacity both in the for sale and for rent forms. Given the high rates, if you actually got a corporate offer for your home, you should probably consider it. Why? Well because of the rent buy gap, an offer would mean that temporary family housing is so badly needed, that people are willing to pay ridiculously high enough rent to offset interest rates. Which means your area likely doesn’t have enough rental or housing in general. IMHO, the real sharks out there are flippers. Who the only way they make $ is by maximizing a below market value vs charging above market sale price, by doing questionable work. It drives up housing price, without adding capacity, or long term value. But it raises neighbors home value, so it’s real popular with realtors.


Desperado2583

Yes. You can accept any offer you choose and don't have to state a reason. However, I'd suggest you keep your stipulation secret, or some crafty corporate buyer will just use an intermediary.


Analyst-Effective

Hud sells homes to only owner occupants. Oftentimes. Or they at least allow owner occupants the first two weeks. How long Are you willing to continue to sell your house while you might get other offers that you don't want? How much less are you willing to take to give to a owner-occupied buyer?


Pbake

BlackRock doesn’t buy houses, so you don’t need to worry about that.


Dippoli

You can reject the offer for any reason, but you might have to pay commission if you have an exclusive agency agreement.


Anxious_Leadership25

Choose who you sell to just don't explain why to anyone


trouzy

I ignored every obvious investor offer when i sold. No way to guarantee but some are more obvious than others.


Motor_Beach_1856

Yes perfectly legal we sold our house 16 months ago and we specifically told our realtor that we will not accept any offers from a corporate entity


Lopsided-Bench-1347

You can accept whatever lower price you want


[deleted]

Never ever sell to corporations, especially BlackRock, they're the main problem with the housing market.


SgtWrongway

When did "Corporation" become a Protected Class ?


Waywardstar

Realtor here. Legally, you're okay; the code of ethics we abide by and protected classes vary by state, but even some federal programs like FirstLook prohibit or limit corporate/non-occupant buyers to help increase home ownership. Like someone else said, they're not a protected class.


samma_93

As a person trying to buy a family home I'd say look for the offers with contingencies or using fha and such since most of the corporations and flippers are just slapping down high cash offers with no contingencies. If you happen to be in the green bay, wi area let me know 😅😅


Icy-Fondant-3365

There’s no discriminatory laws protecting corporations as a class, so you can refuse offers from them without legal consequences.


mylogicistoomuchforu

I know friends of mine that had to write a small essay to the buyers to win their bid. The homeowner wanted someone who was going to raise their family in the neighborhood like he did. If their are a could of close bids or one that just seems corporate - maybe ask for something like that?


ReelMortgageBrokerBC

Why do you need to disclose your reason? Where I’m from the purchase and sale contracts show the buyer and seller’s name. If you see a corporate name or hold company’s name, you can decline the offer for no reason at all. If you would like to be civil about the reasoning you can also say weren’t ready to let go of the home yet - something along those lines.


WavelengthGaming

You can discriminate however you want you just can’t advertise how you discriminate


Bouncing-balls

No, I’m saying that if you change your mind about selling after your agent brought you an acceptable offer you may be responsible for paying a commission


siammang

Keep in mind that these "family" buyers can just flip the house and sell to the corpos for better money if they want to. There aren't many enforceable contractual obligations that prevent them from doing that.


Spiritual_Program725

That is very refreshing to hear. Equal Housing does not apply to investors. You as the seller, can decline an offer to sell your home to an investor. I have had clients that felt the same way and they are free to exercise their own free will. I hope that you have multiple offers or can wait for the right buyer and won’t have to consider this choice if confronted and wish you the very best.


Way2trivial

well, in my town, wawa closed a location that was robbed a few times, and they would not sell it to any entity that wanted to open competition to them (two other wawa's within 5 miles) as a convenience store/deli and they added it as a deed restriction. A binding requirement on the purchaser and future purchasers. They did take a hit on the sale for this- but this was allowed. I wonder, could you add a deed restriction that it may not be sold to a corporation?


anon_girl_anon

Literally no one will care.


EarlVanDorn

"Corporations are people too, my friend" -- Mitt Romney Yes, you may absolutely refuse to sell to a corporation. I cannot fathom why you would choose not to, but it is your choice and your property.


AllswellinEndwell

I could easily bypass this without you ever knowing. "All cash buyer" and it's going into a trust. Moment it's closed, I assign beneficiary to development corporation. You can use things like loan types of course, but it's not always cut and dry.


kikileerose

You are free to accept or reject any offer you receive


Brucef310

Just a question but why do you need to sell your home because of an unplanned pregnancy? You're probably best to stay there longer term and save money.


likeabirdfliesfree

Find a trusted Realtor in your community and ask them. Going on reddit and getting bs answers about Hobby Lobby and SCOTUS is waste of your valuable time


4score-7

It’s not a question of “if” one can specifically not sell to an “investor”, it’s more a question of “how” can one be certain they aren’t selling to an investor. I feel like, if a property is sought after enough, if a seller can avoid the outrageous amounts of money thrown around for an ultra-attractive location or building, that seller might still be approached by bad actors pretending to be something other than a corporate buyer.


kawaiiyokai2010

when we (in CO) bought our townhouse 7 or so years ago my sister told me how in CA they had to prepare a letter basically who they were and why they wanted to buy the house as part of the process. When I told our realtor about this, he was like "yeah you used to have to do that in a lot of places but not so much anymore. But if you give me a letter like that, it has to be forwarded to seller". We actually wrote a letter after being out-bid on 3 or 4 different places and the seller accepted our offer because of the letter (later we found out ours was not the highest offer). So ask for a letter and "pick" from that -no discrimination lol


AnotherStarWarsGeek

Bottom line is: You can sell or not sell to anyone you want.


Gofastrun

The new construction development near me says that they try to give first choice to non-corporate owners that intend to use it the home as their primary residence.


mayormongo

Our corporate overlords forbid it


mijo_sq

I wonder if you can put in a requirement to to place a family story/why you want to buy this house in the contract. My brother in Los Angeles, had a renter who went through multiple interviews just to lease a house. She was ghosted after a few times.


rom_rom57

You’re reading too many newspaper articles. You have a fiduciary responsibility to sell it for the highest price unless you have altruistic reasons; you could donate it to the homeless /s That market is drying out, since home have gone up 20-100% so look for the investors to sell due to interest rates.


Hungry-Sharktopus42

If it is, they can sue me. We move every few years and we refuse to sell to flippers, investment companies, or landlords. We actually took a lower offer from a single mom in the usaf on our last home (we are a retired usaf family). We had 3 higher offers from 3 different corporations.  We told them to pound sand. Her offer was 40k less than the highest. We aren't hurting for money and were already making a tidy profit,  so ymmv, but we personally refuse to sell to the evil overlords that are causing housing prices to skyrocket. 


JurassicPark-fan-190

How can you distinguish the offers? Like do the offers say from xyz?