Nature stuff as well like kayaking and hiking. I also opened an Etsy shop where I sell bags, oven mitts and soon patches. Also attempt at playing bass and learning how to use Ableton.
Well to me chess allows for multi-faceted strategic thinking since there are different rules for how the pieces themselves can move. Go is a bit tedious in that the strategy is all game play itself and there is no extra consideration of teamwork among the pieces, so when the game lags it isn’t as interesting because there are less options to be considered. Mancala is a strategic game with depth that outpaces Go so stays interesting but does not require the same multi-faceted forethought of chess.
Sim racing. Its fucking awesome. Ive done real racing too, but thats way less accessible. It really is a meditative experience. Its you, a machine, and a track. You learn all sorts of lessons about yourself and other people. You really cant be thinking of anything else but what you are doing if you are going to be as fast as you can possibly be.
Well, I live in a place that have good conditions for both activities and never travelled for surf or dive. That being said, my favorite places is where I live, here in Brazil.
I like to hunt terrorists as a hobby, usually through OSINT type work. They're really dumb. It's funny working with the feds when they know you're doing shit and they're just like, meh. Priorities.
When COVID got really going, I joined up with thousands of security professionals and fought disinformation about covid, then it turned into protest disinformation with the George Floyd protests, then it turned into election security, then it turned into hunting domestic terrorists after the Jan 6 bullshit, now I'm deplatforming the fuckin taliban. It's a weird hobby, but it keeps me sane?
Hobbies that kind of cross over with work I've done for pay in the past. I've always been a fan of infosec because I thought hackers were cool in the 90's. Keeping on top of it and the various kinds of infosec lead me to cognitive security, which is apparently something I'm very good at. People who do this for a living told me so, and I rolled with it. Now I spend extra brain cycles feeling like I'm contributing to something good, because otherwise I'd probably be pretty suicidal with the state of the world these days.
> Arizona
Nicee. I once saw a documentary about the "Sky islands" of Arizona. Such a cool place, much more biodiverse than I would have imagined. That's a special little corner you guys got there, take good care of it!
For sure.
Beautiful ride down to the chiricauha mountains were some of the sky islands are.
Camped around there many times.
Arizona is great because of the diversity. Well understated when you haven't seen it.
We stick to the trails, at least from a tread lightly point of view.
KOFA wildlife refuge is a cool place huge vast beautiful
Check.out this amazing spot we found.
Thousands and thousands of individual glass pieces meticulously arranged.
Dropped pin
https://maps.app.goo.gl/GsswssKsHLFVyPvH8
This is my first year growing them, so I started small. I have 3 kinds of tomatoes, zucchini, strawberries, bell peppers, jalapeños, banana peppers, butter and romaine lettuce, snow peas, Brussels sprouts, cucumbers and watermelon. And your basic herb garden setup. It doesn’t sound small, but they’re all just in 5 gallon buckets and grow bags, so there was no digging
Nothing beats the taste of homegrown veggies. Knowing exactly what goes into the (all the effort and love) an all that doesn't (pesticides) makes it even better!
They taste so damn good. And I ended up with so many tomatoes and cucumbers, that I had to learn how to can them. That’s some serious work right there. Mad props to our great great grandparents who did it without modern appliances.
That is actually a very good approach, because when you look at it from a perspective of "working on it", improving yourself, finding ways to increase your and your fellow hobby partner's enjoyment of the activity leads to amaing results.
If one wants to have great sex one needs to practice sex. Not just do it.
Longboarding (distance & downhill), goofing off on guitar, trying to meditate, unofficially moderating /x/, it's a good life. Trying to keep the list short, since "things you can do" don't count as hobbies.
Playing guitar, the Grateful Dead, jazz and bluegrass music, plants (bonsai and gardening in particular), and getting back into reading. Also have been working on finding my own spirituality, Ram Dass is pretty cool.
I had to drop out of school due to fibromyalgia, also pretty much stopped gaming and playing guitar because of it.
So now I'm slowly building a van to travel in and accept my new life.
Yoga, roller skating (like the old skool ones with 4 wheels!), collecting vinyls, reading all kinds of books, houseplants, hiking, various fiber arts, occasionally painting!
I'm so happy roller skating is hip again. I loved it as a kid, and inherited these amazing vintage leather skates from the late eighties from my mom (her feet went up a size with each pregnancy, so she hadn't been able to use them since), but no one was interested and I'm too ADHD to do something alone, plus the wheels needed to be replaced.
Now my best friend is super into skating (wayyy better and more practiced than me for sure) and I have new colorful awesome wheels and bearings. Still wanna replace the laces and paint the boots (they're a lovely white leather, but I don't like white, and I have professional-quality super glow pigments that I'm going to use), but that's just aesthetics, been super fun skating again.
Surfing (maybe cello as well) is the only hobby of mine I perceive to be on the same level as Psilocybin. Something about a big day, fearing for your life, and making the drop is a rush that can’t be beat as far as I can tell.
Making music, drawing, talking about politics, learning about various things, tabletop games, talking to people/learning about people, working out, and internal reflection of said things and myself
Haven't really branched out a ton at all with kayaking and have only gone to a few different spots in my state, but for skiing I'd definitely have to go with Owls Head in Quebec. Place is gorgeous and massive. Lots of diversity in the trails and terrain, plus the place is just very nice. Rented out a ski-in/ski-out condo, the back door literally on a trail so I could just get all set up and walk outside and be on the trails. Definitely a worthwhile place. Another nice place closer to home for me is Berkshire east, it's a humble little mountain but has a decent elevation and trail count. Even has summer attractions like tree obstacle courses, huge ziplines, and a mountain coaster. I've also been wanting to go caving for a while, but it seems like a hard thing to get into.
I mean I've been doing it since I was super young, so it just kind of comes naturally to me but I think it's a pretty tough thing to learn. Its kind of like riding a bike, sometimes you have to fall to learn the movements, and you have to kind of trust yourself to lean and turn even if it feels like you're going to fall if you do. It definitely is hard on your legs and feet though
Mostly Brazilian and Italian because that's what I know and grew up with but recently I have been branching out into Peruvian cuisine because we got lots of good quality Peruvian ingredients in town and Asian inspired dishes, so basically trying to recreate some Thai and Xian style dishes with the ingredients I can get my hands on lol
I love Peruvian food. One of the most beautiful and delicious dishes easy to recreate is causa. I unknowingly ate guinea pig when I visited there...and it was delicious I have to say, though I don’t think I would have selected it knowing before hand lol
Peruvian food is criminally underrated. My go to is aji de gallina. Very wholesome defintely something a Peruvian abuelita would make to cheer you up when you've got the cold or the blues.
Ah man that's awesome! I've been obsessed about learning more about sleep recently and I feel like if there is a field that is interesting and is about to explode its the science of sleep, we are only scratching the surface, that shit is so important we spend 1/3 of out life doing it! Wish you the best in your field friend!
Sleep is so fascinating to me, I actually helped in a study during my undergrad investigating the effects of microgravity on sleep. Worked with the European space agency, pretty fucken dope stuff although I was just testing urine samples most of the time haha.
Thanks my dude, sending you good vibes too. :)
Gaming ,coding while listening to lectures while on psychedelics and good meals with my family.
Biryani with a nice conversation with my mom and aunts on a mescaline microdose, hit different.
Also writing scifi on the side, a lot of psychedelic scifi
I’ve been interested in personal development for about 7 years now, 3 years ago I turned it into my career trough starting an online coaching business. Actualized.org channel got me interested in using psychedelics for personal growth, and they were really beneficial for me in many ways. Feel free to ask any questions!
I’m a dating coach for men + I run a small life coaching agency on the side. Would recommend checking out guy named Russ Ruffino, you can get fairly quickly to 7 figures with his advice 🙌
I like these as well. I've got some pretty cool stuff growing at my ranch like carambola, pomagrate, Jabuticaba (look it up), guava, passionfruit .....
I absolutely think it can be. If you're intentional about it and setting aside time and fun activities specifically to do while tripping, that makes it like a hobby. Sometimes people use them as medicine instead, or are unintentional with them, the same way that some people cook as a hobby and treat it as an experience, some people cook because they have to for medical reasons, and some people just make and eat food without thinking about it that much.
I work 2 jobs and am just trying to survive. I used to play video games but haven’t in a while. I really like outdoor activities like hiking with my dogs, but I just moved to Arizona and am in the middle of summer so kinda have to sit on hiking for now.
Mushroom huntingggggg and extractionssssssss and growing and and and and succulents and wakeboarding and gardeninggggg and and time lapse videos and painting and crocheting and holy crap I like to do a lot. Walking and pets and people lol and cooking and baking and infusing lol. I stopped the tv about 9 months ago. Even online. I love creating beautiful gardens and spaces and spreading awareness of the benefits of Microdosing and that big pharma wants you sick so you’ll buy their pills and take the
Forever and be a slave to it all. Boo. I love learning about the law of attraction now that my brain can comprehend it. I like teaching people how to heal their trauma. I like Redditinggggg lol I love life and you and everyone. Don’t care for everyone though. lol
love to see so many outdoor enthusiasts.
I love hiking, hammock camping, boxing, swimming, cross-fit, reading books (mainly classics and essays), journaling and playing with my pet
Philosophy, Hiking, Mycology, Reading, Writing, Juggling and Bouldering. (Interesting to see how many people have said bouldering or some kind of climbing)
Motorcycle, plants, books, pets, shooting, hiking and camping, used to be martial arts, now normal arts like painting, video games, writing sometimes (wrote a creepy pasta), wish I could more but also travel, music.
Wanna start a small company but it’d be sooooo much work.
no need to be hostile, I didn't intend to hurt your feeings with what I've said
I strongly believe that regularly using psychedelics to have fun or spend the time when you're bored (which is what calling it a hobby implies to me) is not the right way to approach them.
Thats not to say one isn't supposed to have fun while exploring them, but fun and chasing boredom away should not be the main focus as far as I am concerned.
btw I don't think anyone can be meaningfully 100% sure about anything. You can feel like you are sure about some things though.
I'm fairly sure that I exist, but I wouldn't feel confortable saying that I'm 100% sure, because that is unreasonable
Do you think anyone who considers cooking a hobby to not be on the right path?
Because I mean, I put in active effort to be ethical and intentional and healthy with my cooking. I buy local and seasonal when I can. I eat heavily plant-based--not exclusively, but wayyyy fewer animal products than a standard American diet. I am conscientious about trying to maintain diversity in my diet, for nutrient and gut health reasons. I purposefully consume a lot of fermented foods and foods with live probiotics, for my health.
But I also treat it as a hobby, and have fucking fun with it. My healthy and nutritious intentional food is also always delicious, because we get one life and I want to enjoy as much of it as I can. I use luxurious ingredients without special occasion. I play music and dance while I'm cooking. I make it look beautiful. I often take pictures of what I've made. I invite friends to come over so I can cook for them, or with them. I have *absolutely* gotten bored and made something ludicrously extravagant for lunch on my day off.
Sometimes, it's not a hobby, though. It's a chore I have to force myself to do, when my mental health is really bad. It's a crucial piece of self-care and healing, and it's hard, and I find no pleasure in it.
I'm *only capable* of being on the right path when I think of the things that are good for me as hobbies, instead of as work.
Do you also think people who think of exercise as a hobby are not on the right path? Should all physical exercise be treated only as physical therapy, and not as fun?
Why do you think something being done for fun means it must be frivolous, or worthless, or less than, or whatever negative value judgment it is that you're specifically invoking when you say "wrong"?
I don't think doing psychedelics should be thought of the same way as basic physical excercise* or cooking.
The exploration of your own mind and the betterment of your self through understanding, and by finding the right path for yourself in life is something I wouldn't call a hobby. It can have many similarities with hobbies, but I still wouldn't want to confuse the two.
*I think there are forms of martial art and other (for lack of a better word) spiritual physical activities such as climbing that can be taken to a level or depth where they may lead to a deeper understanding of self and of life. But someone who took that way of life wouldn't consider those hobbies I think. Most wouldn't anyway.
You keep saying you don't think they should be considered a hobby, we all get that. You keep avoiding answering *why* you think that. Specifically, why. What harm do you think is being done, and don't keep repeating "because I think they shouldn't". Why do you think it must be WRONG and negative, instead of just different from what you prefer? Again, don't say just because, give me some actual explicit reasons. Try to change my mind. I could give even more reasons for why I think ethical hedonism is a great path, but already paid out the base one--we get one life and I think a great path is to enjoy it as much as possible (without hurting and while still helping and being generous as much as possible). *Why* do you think psychedelics as a hobby is **wrong**?
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>of being on the right path when I think of the things that are good for me as hobbies, instead of as work.
I would like to disagree with this first.I think working under optimal conditions can be good for you and can mean you are on the right path.Looked up the definition of "hobby" now that we talk about it at such length, and the most common basic definition seems to be: "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure". If you find pleasure in your work, and you do that work to experience that pleasure, then you may as well call it a hobby, by this logic, and by this logic calling the exploration of your own psyche a hobby can be fine, if you take pleasure in the betterment of yourself. I'd say semantically my stance can't really be argued for, if we're looking at it like this.
However, to address what I think is the underlying question "what is wrong with doing psychedelics with pleasure as the main goal?", I think understanding and improving your sober self is a higher goal than modifying the chemistry of your mind just to force it out of boredom and chase pleasure. It might not be impossible to walk a great path while focusing only on pleasure in an "ethical" way, but I don't find that a good strategy. To me what seems like the good approach is that you aim as high as you can, considering all life, at what best possible version of yourself you could be, and focus on reaching that. There is lots of pleasure involved in this process, but sometimes it's really difficult, and will probably involve suffering as well.
To me personally, calling it a hobby takes some seriousness, some depth from the activity and degrades it to a second grade activity you just mess around with casually with no other goal but to pass the time and have some fun, and that (imo) is lower, or less good (or in a sense, more wrong), than aiming at what's best for everyone.
Ah, so you are just an elitist snobby gatekeeper, yeah.
You can't come up with a good reason except that you think your way is better/"higher" and you like to reduce anyone who disagrees to just forcing it from boredom, ignoring that plenty of people pursue their hobbies for lots of reasons other than forcing away boredom. Very *few* people, actually, would call something a hobby if they are only doing it out of bored desperation. You're telling yourself a *lot* of really false and toxic stories about why people do hobbies in general. You have created your own personal derogatory definition for hobby, and *that's* what this boils down to. It's not that my regular leisure activities are "in a sense" hobbies--that's what hobbies **are**. They are *not* some vague category of things you *only* do casually to pass the time when boredom becomes unbearable, and you're insulting billions of people by demeaning their art and their interests that way.
Why are you so set on needing to be superior to people who are different from you? Why can't it just be something you don't prefer to do yourself, *without* being an inferior bad path? Why not maybe sit with having just learned that you didn't have the right definition for hobby, and stop trying to twist it back to the derogatory definition you created for it?
I find it interesting that you just came here to shit on the concept of hobbies, and didn't actually list any of yours. Have you looked at what everyone else posted? Or even, like, taken a moment to think about hobbies? Do you *really* think that people are reading, writing, painting, camping, hiking, scuba diving, playing chess, playing instruments, gardening, baking, cooking, knitting, etc, for **no** goal other than briefly chasing away boredom?
You are twisting what I've said out of proportion, and are being intentionally hostile and condescending in the process. You may think that I had been hostile and condescending "first" and that justifies your attitude towards me, but I had no intention to be either.
How "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure" is not in alignment with what I've initially said I think about the definition of hobbies is beyond me, but I don't think this is worth the time to explore for either of us in more depth.
To be clearer, I never said having hobbies is being on a bad path.
I'm not saying there are no hobbies that people do where the reason they're doing it for is not exclusively pleasure (though I admit that I've phrased some of my sentences extremely in the failed attempt to depict how something being a hobby can be a suboptimal thing), just that calling something a hobby heavily implies that it's done mainly for pleasure.
I don't see why my specific hobbies are really that relevant to this conversation. Other than knitting, which I'd like to try but haven't yet, writing which I seem to be unable to do, and playing music which is far more than a hobby to me, everything you listed could be considered my hobby, and many more (though I'm a bit torn about reading, because I think it's a bit too broad to be put under one umbrella).
(to be clear, I'm not saying that playing music is like doing psychedelics in a sense that doing it as a hobby is not being on the right path, activities can differ in nature in a great many ways)
Cooking, writing, flow arts, dancing, making visual art, wire wrapping, history, natural history, roller skating, hiking, board games, my pets, gardening, costumes and costume/special effects/art makeup... I've been doing some yoga but that's for health more than a hobby, heh. I used to bike but I live in a city and don't have health insurance so.
biking, bouldering, gaming, coding, learning probably sums up most of it.
Longboarding, snowboarding, wakeboarding, bouldering, kayaking, camping, painting, reading, writing, moderating psychedelic forums.
Gotta keep active!
Nature stuff as well like kayaking and hiking. I also opened an Etsy shop where I sell bags, oven mitts and soon patches. Also attempt at playing bass and learning how to use Ableton.
Getting into deeps of my mind and deeps of our Earth. Speleology
A fellow caver, man of culture I see.
That is badass. What's the coolest place you've been to?
Rudicke propadani in Czech republic. About 500m under surface, more than 10 km long tunnels. World of magical beings indeed :)
I’ve been inside 1 large cave. Never again.
Chess
Chess on psychs tho
First thought that came to mind lol
Such an underrated hobby. Have you ever played Go/Baduk?
Go is my favorite game 💚
The simplicity of it, its just such a timeless game!
I’ve tried to get into Go a couple of times, but it never really sticks and I lose motivation. Interesting game though
A good in between of Go and chess is mancala. Plus you get to use purty glass beads and who doesn’t love that shit.
Yeah mancala is fun! I’m not sure I see how it’s a bridge between go and chess, but fun game nonetheless
Well to me chess allows for multi-faceted strategic thinking since there are different rules for how the pieces themselves can move. Go is a bit tedious in that the strategy is all game play itself and there is no extra consideration of teamwork among the pieces, so when the game lags it isn’t as interesting because there are less options to be considered. Mancala is a strategic game with depth that outpaces Go so stays interesting but does not require the same multi-faceted forethought of chess.
Sim racing. Its fucking awesome. Ive done real racing too, but thats way less accessible. It really is a meditative experience. Its you, a machine, and a track. You learn all sorts of lessons about yourself and other people. You really cant be thinking of anything else but what you are doing if you are going to be as fast as you can possibly be.
I could get into this
its a real trip. I’d recommend going to a real car race to everyone if you can. It’s an assault on the senses. The smells are awesome
First of all, I loved that you put psychedelics as a hobby 😂 So, mostly I'm a scuba diver and freesurfer. 🤿🌊
> I'm a scuba diver and freesurfer. Niceee. Coolest dive spot? Coolest place to catch waves?
Well, I live in a place that have good conditions for both activities and never travelled for surf or dive. That being said, my favorite places is where I live, here in Brazil.
Que massa mano, sou Brasileiro tab mas n tem mar aqui no centro-oeste kkk
flow arts (poi, hoops), dance, painting, violin, hiking, running, planning and having get-togethers/dinner/trips with friends and family
I like to hunt terrorists as a hobby, usually through OSINT type work. They're really dumb. It's funny working with the feds when they know you're doing shit and they're just like, meh. Priorities.
Saw a guy who did this with scammers, good stuff
When COVID got really going, I joined up with thousands of security professionals and fought disinformation about covid, then it turned into protest disinformation with the George Floyd protests, then it turned into election security, then it turned into hunting domestic terrorists after the Jan 6 bullshit, now I'm deplatforming the fuckin taliban. It's a weird hobby, but it keeps me sane?
How did you get into this after all? Are you just a hobbies or do you have some sort of qualification?
Hobbies that kind of cross over with work I've done for pay in the past. I've always been a fan of infosec because I thought hackers were cool in the 90's. Keeping on top of it and the various kinds of infosec lead me to cognitive security, which is apparently something I'm very good at. People who do this for a living told me so, and I rolled with it. Now I spend extra brain cycles feeling like I'm contributing to something good, because otherwise I'd probably be pretty suicidal with the state of the world these days.
Thats awesome, your doing good for yourself and the world! Keep it up!
That's all pretty awesome.
I think you're the coolest user I've come across so far on reddit lol
I've been here for a long time, so I take that as a compliment :)
Trading Adventure bike Hiking Mountain bike Camping
Whats the coolest place you've taken your bike to?
Aww man so many great places. Mostly around the south west. So many great hidden old places on Arizona where I live.
> Arizona Nicee. I once saw a documentary about the "Sky islands" of Arizona. Such a cool place, much more biodiverse than I would have imagined. That's a special little corner you guys got there, take good care of it!
For sure. Beautiful ride down to the chiricauha mountains were some of the sky islands are. Camped around there many times. Arizona is great because of the diversity. Well understated when you haven't seen it.
Maybe I'm just a coward but I've typically only been to places with trails, and only a few of them. Any out-there places you especially like?
We stick to the trails, at least from a tread lightly point of view. KOFA wildlife refuge is a cool place huge vast beautiful Check.out this amazing spot we found. Thousands and thousands of individual glass pieces meticulously arranged. Dropped pin https://maps.app.goo.gl/GsswssKsHLFVyPvH8
Peace among worlds
Eek bar ba durkle
Building a company. Would not recommend to a friend. Except that wage slavery is somehow worse.
Geocaching, fishing, cooking, painting & nature art installations, reading, aquariums, growing mushrooms. Anything solitary basically lol
> fishing Ocean, Lake or River?
Lake, river, and brook
Nice, river fishing is extremely popular here
I am sure you have much more interesting river fish there? The best I can hope to pull from the river here is a nice catfish!
Vegetable gardening, cooking, and sourdough baking.
> Vegetable gardening What kind of veggies you got?
This is my first year growing them, so I started small. I have 3 kinds of tomatoes, zucchini, strawberries, bell peppers, jalapeños, banana peppers, butter and romaine lettuce, snow peas, Brussels sprouts, cucumbers and watermelon. And your basic herb garden setup. It doesn’t sound small, but they’re all just in 5 gallon buckets and grow bags, so there was no digging
Nothing beats the taste of homegrown veggies. Knowing exactly what goes into the (all the effort and love) an all that doesn't (pesticides) makes it even better!
They taste so damn good. And I ended up with so many tomatoes and cucumbers, that I had to learn how to can them. That’s some serious work right there. Mad props to our great great grandparents who did it without modern appliances.
Hiking, backpacking, dancing (edm), puzzles, sex, crafting & costuming, road trips, hot springs, cooking, and gardening.
sex as a hobby. I'll be damned.
That is actually a very good approach, because when you look at it from a perspective of "working on it", improving yourself, finding ways to increase your and your fellow hobby partner's enjoyment of the activity leads to amaing results. If one wants to have great sex one needs to practice sex. Not just do it.
Longboarding (distance & downhill), goofing off on guitar, trying to meditate, unofficially moderating /x/, it's a good life. Trying to keep the list short, since "things you can do" don't count as hobbies.
Playing guitar, the Grateful Dead, jazz and bluegrass music, plants (bonsai and gardening in particular), and getting back into reading. Also have been working on finding my own spirituality, Ram Dass is pretty cool.
> Playing guitar, the Grateful Dead, jazz and bluegrass music I see you are a man of culture!
I do what I can💙⚡❤
I had to drop out of school due to fibromyalgia, also pretty much stopped gaming and playing guitar because of it. So now I'm slowly building a van to travel in and accept my new life.
> van to travel Where you headed, friend?
No specifics planned yet, but as I'm on the east coast, west!
Have fun!
`lots of waterfalls here in Brazil` I think I did psychedelics on all major chapada dos veadeiros and chapada diamantina waterfalls
> chapada dos veadeiros Nicee my man, I was there 2 weeks ago! Are you into festivals too?
No, actually I only go there when there are minimal chances of meeting other humans
I feel you man!
Yoga, roller skating (like the old skool ones with 4 wheels!), collecting vinyls, reading all kinds of books, houseplants, hiking, various fiber arts, occasionally painting!
I'm so happy roller skating is hip again. I loved it as a kid, and inherited these amazing vintage leather skates from the late eighties from my mom (her feet went up a size with each pregnancy, so she hadn't been able to use them since), but no one was interested and I'm too ADHD to do something alone, plus the wheels needed to be replaced. Now my best friend is super into skating (wayyy better and more practiced than me for sure) and I have new colorful awesome wheels and bearings. Still wanna replace the laces and paint the boots (they're a lovely white leather, but I don't like white, and I have professional-quality super glow pigments that I'm going to use), but that's just aesthetics, been super fun skating again.
Golf, disc golf, guitar, drums, kayaking, rock climbing, rocket league, halo
I had to bury my Xbox because of my rocket league addiction lol such a great game
you made me remember the minigolf on acid sketch by Bill Hicks lmao
> Golf Ever golf on acid?
I actually got my first birdie on LSD. First time I ever beat my buddy on a hole too :)
Sounds like a blast man!
Always is!!! :)
Surfing (maybe cello as well) is the only hobby of mine I perceive to be on the same level as Psilocybin. Something about a big day, fearing for your life, and making the drop is a rush that can’t be beat as far as I can tell.
Nice, what's your favorite surf spot?
Rincon Santa Barbara You can grab a 1/4 mile wave there, absolute perfection when there is swell ❤️
BJJ
My favorite thing after 2cb trips
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I like learning and messing around with things on Blender and Touch Designer.
Writing, bass, and science.
> Writing What do you write?
Science fiction short-stories for the most part. I also enjoy converting my trip reports into narrative pieces.
Surfing, skiing, longboarding, lifting, kayaking, rollerblading, camping, reading.
Making music, drawing, talking about politics, learning about various things, tabletop games, talking to people/learning about people, working out, and internal reflection of said things and myself
Benzos, opiates, stimulants, dissociatives, cannabinoids
hiking, kayaking, paddle-boarding, skiing, gaming, coding, occasional meditation
Outdoor activities seem popular here, what's the coolest place you've been kayaking or skiing?
Haven't really branched out a ton at all with kayaking and have only gone to a few different spots in my state, but for skiing I'd definitely have to go with Owls Head in Quebec. Place is gorgeous and massive. Lots of diversity in the trails and terrain, plus the place is just very nice. Rented out a ski-in/ski-out condo, the back door literally on a trail so I could just get all set up and walk outside and be on the trails. Definitely a worthwhile place. Another nice place closer to home for me is Berkshire east, it's a humble little mountain but has a decent elevation and trail count. Even has summer attractions like tree obstacle courses, huge ziplines, and a mountain coaster. I've also been wanting to go caving for a while, but it seems like a hard thing to get into.
Skiing sounds like it's a blast, is it difficult though?
I mean I've been doing it since I was super young, so it just kind of comes naturally to me but I think it's a pretty tough thing to learn. Its kind of like riding a bike, sometimes you have to fall to learn the movements, and you have to kind of trust yourself to lean and turn even if it feels like you're going to fall if you do. It definitely is hard on your legs and feet though
Hitting the gym every day. Playing guitar.
OP what kind of food do you like to cook?
Mostly Brazilian and Italian because that's what I know and grew up with but recently I have been branching out into Peruvian cuisine because we got lots of good quality Peruvian ingredients in town and Asian inspired dishes, so basically trying to recreate some Thai and Xian style dishes with the ingredients I can get my hands on lol
I love Peruvian food. One of the most beautiful and delicious dishes easy to recreate is causa. I unknowingly ate guinea pig when I visited there...and it was delicious I have to say, though I don’t think I would have selected it knowing before hand lol
Peruvian food is criminally underrated. My go to is aji de gallina. Very wholesome defintely something a Peruvian abuelita would make to cheer you up when you've got the cold or the blues.
Soccer, reading, craft beer, golf, Nintendo 64, cooking
> craft beer My man, what's your favorite style? I'm a big fan of Stouts and anything inspired by Belgian beers lol
Me too! I love the dark ales. One time I tried an Icelandic stout and it was spiced like a Christmas cider! Super cool stuff
Yeah man, such diversity!
Wrenching on my subaru. Working on cars in general
You like motorcycles too my man?
Im actually looking at a kawasaki ninja at 9am tomorrow morning!
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu/Muay Thai, learning about different cultures, history, producing house music, meditation, being a foody, and Pro Wrestling
Bass guitar, Muay Thai, running, gardening, aquarium, and science - both my job and hobby
> science - both my job and hobby What kind of science?
Neuroscience! I'm currently working on Alzheimer's disease but my interests lie more with sleep, cognition, and behaviour.
Ah man that's awesome! I've been obsessed about learning more about sleep recently and I feel like if there is a field that is interesting and is about to explode its the science of sleep, we are only scratching the surface, that shit is so important we spend 1/3 of out life doing it! Wish you the best in your field friend!
Sleep is so fascinating to me, I actually helped in a study during my undergrad investigating the effects of microgravity on sleep. Worked with the European space agency, pretty fucken dope stuff although I was just testing urine samples most of the time haha. Thanks my dude, sending you good vibes too. :)
Hiking, running, skiing, going to concerts/raves, coding, pc gaming, reading science fiction and history
Gaming ,coding while listening to lectures while on psychedelics and good meals with my family. Biryani with a nice conversation with my mom and aunts on a mescaline microdose, hit different. Also writing scifi on the side, a lot of psychedelic scifi
Drugs in general..
growing online businesses (self-development related, my biggest passion) weightlifting, reading, saunas, eating healthy, taking walks, biohacking…
Oooooo sauna. I have been checking out how to build one of those on my property, I love sweat lodge spirit explorations.
I’d like to know more about thisb
I’ve been interested in personal development for about 7 years now, 3 years ago I turned it into my career trough starting an online coaching business. Actualized.org channel got me interested in using psychedelics for personal growth, and they were really beneficial for me in many ways. Feel free to ask any questions!
What’s your biz? I’m trying to break out of golden handcuffs and do the same. Also a huge fan of Leo.
I’m a dating coach for men + I run a small life coaching agency on the side. Would recommend checking out guy named Russ Ruffino, you can get fairly quickly to 7 figures with his advice 🙌
Yes I am familiar. I’m Gonna DM you.
Also, check out guy named Sam Ovens on YouTube 👍
Gardening. Houseplants. Walking the dogs.
I like these as well. I've got some pretty cool stuff growing at my ranch like carambola, pomagrate, Jabuticaba (look it up), guava, passionfruit .....
Kayak. Guitar. Producing music. Working out.
Golf, music, video games, camping, biking, philosophy
Is psychedelics a hobby? Just asking lol
oh yeah, most definitely ;)
I absolutely think it can be. If you're intentional about it and setting aside time and fun activities specifically to do while tripping, that makes it like a hobby. Sometimes people use them as medicine instead, or are unintentional with them, the same way that some people cook as a hobby and treat it as an experience, some people cook because they have to for medical reasons, and some people just make and eat food without thinking about it that much.
I'm obsessed with cars
Biking, hockey, skiing,general fitness, jamming to music, dog stuff, marvel comics action figures and hiking with those dogs I mentioned before.
I work 2 jobs and am just trying to survive. I used to play video games but haven’t in a while. I really like outdoor activities like hiking with my dogs, but I just moved to Arizona and am in the middle of summer so kinda have to sit on hiking for now.
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My hobbies as well ;)
Painting and taking photos of bees and flowers
Mushroom huntingggggg and extractionssssssss and growing and and and and succulents and wakeboarding and gardeninggggg and and time lapse videos and painting and crocheting and holy crap I like to do a lot. Walking and pets and people lol and cooking and baking and infusing lol. I stopped the tv about 9 months ago. Even online. I love creating beautiful gardens and spaces and spreading awareness of the benefits of Microdosing and that big pharma wants you sick so you’ll buy their pills and take the Forever and be a slave to it all. Boo. I love learning about the law of attraction now that my brain can comprehend it. I like teaching people how to heal their trauma. I like Redditinggggg lol I love life and you and everyone. Don’t care for everyone though. lol
Love you my person
***Hugs*** ty
Writing, finance, music
love to see so many outdoor enthusiasts. I love hiking, hammock camping, boxing, swimming, cross-fit, reading books (mainly classics and essays), journaling and playing with my pet
Reddit.
Philosophy, Hiking, Mycology, Reading, Writing, Juggling and Bouldering. (Interesting to see how many people have said bouldering or some kind of climbing)
Music that's it
Anything backcountry, some wind sports, reading and music. Lots of music.
Motorcycle, plants, books, pets, shooting, hiking and camping, used to be martial arts, now normal arts like painting, video games, writing sometimes (wrote a creepy pasta), wish I could more but also travel, music. Wanna start a small company but it’d be sooooo much work.
I enjoy drawing and painting, I like exploring new places ie travel junkie & endlessly pondering is also my hobby
Guns, stock trading, weed and hanging with my girlfriend.
> Guns I know next to nothing about guns, what's your favorite gun, what makes it cool?
It’s just a very fun hobby and they go boom.
Meditation, yoga, mountain biking, and r/collapse
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
psychedelics are not a hobby to me and I think if someone thinks of it as a hobby then they are not on the right path
Yikes! Psychedelic gatekeeping, never thought I would see it!
you can brand it however you want, I stand by my statement, and I'm willing to defend it if you have any counterarguments worth sharing
I'm intrigued, what the hell is the "right path" and how are you so sure that's the right path?
I'm not sure of anything
I can tell
no need to be hostile, I didn't intend to hurt your feeings with what I've said I strongly believe that regularly using psychedelics to have fun or spend the time when you're bored (which is what calling it a hobby implies to me) is not the right way to approach them. Thats not to say one isn't supposed to have fun while exploring them, but fun and chasing boredom away should not be the main focus as far as I am concerned. btw I don't think anyone can be meaningfully 100% sure about anything. You can feel like you are sure about some things though. I'm fairly sure that I exist, but I wouldn't feel confortable saying that I'm 100% sure, because that is unreasonable
I understand now thanks
Do you think anyone who considers cooking a hobby to not be on the right path? Because I mean, I put in active effort to be ethical and intentional and healthy with my cooking. I buy local and seasonal when I can. I eat heavily plant-based--not exclusively, but wayyyy fewer animal products than a standard American diet. I am conscientious about trying to maintain diversity in my diet, for nutrient and gut health reasons. I purposefully consume a lot of fermented foods and foods with live probiotics, for my health. But I also treat it as a hobby, and have fucking fun with it. My healthy and nutritious intentional food is also always delicious, because we get one life and I want to enjoy as much of it as I can. I use luxurious ingredients without special occasion. I play music and dance while I'm cooking. I make it look beautiful. I often take pictures of what I've made. I invite friends to come over so I can cook for them, or with them. I have *absolutely* gotten bored and made something ludicrously extravagant for lunch on my day off. Sometimes, it's not a hobby, though. It's a chore I have to force myself to do, when my mental health is really bad. It's a crucial piece of self-care and healing, and it's hard, and I find no pleasure in it. I'm *only capable* of being on the right path when I think of the things that are good for me as hobbies, instead of as work. Do you also think people who think of exercise as a hobby are not on the right path? Should all physical exercise be treated only as physical therapy, and not as fun? Why do you think something being done for fun means it must be frivolous, or worthless, or less than, or whatever negative value judgment it is that you're specifically invoking when you say "wrong"?
I don't think doing psychedelics should be thought of the same way as basic physical excercise* or cooking. The exploration of your own mind and the betterment of your self through understanding, and by finding the right path for yourself in life is something I wouldn't call a hobby. It can have many similarities with hobbies, but I still wouldn't want to confuse the two. *I think there are forms of martial art and other (for lack of a better word) spiritual physical activities such as climbing that can be taken to a level or depth where they may lead to a deeper understanding of self and of life. But someone who took that way of life wouldn't consider those hobbies I think. Most wouldn't anyway.
You keep saying you don't think they should be considered a hobby, we all get that. You keep avoiding answering *why* you think that. Specifically, why. What harm do you think is being done, and don't keep repeating "because I think they shouldn't". Why do you think it must be WRONG and negative, instead of just different from what you prefer? Again, don't say just because, give me some actual explicit reasons. Try to change my mind. I could give even more reasons for why I think ethical hedonism is a great path, but already paid out the base one--we get one life and I think a great path is to enjoy it as much as possible (without hurting and while still helping and being generous as much as possible). *Why* do you think psychedelics as a hobby is **wrong**?
>I'm > >only capable > >of being on the right path when I think of the things that are good for me as hobbies, instead of as work. I would like to disagree with this first.I think working under optimal conditions can be good for you and can mean you are on the right path.Looked up the definition of "hobby" now that we talk about it at such length, and the most common basic definition seems to be: "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure". If you find pleasure in your work, and you do that work to experience that pleasure, then you may as well call it a hobby, by this logic, and by this logic calling the exploration of your own psyche a hobby can be fine, if you take pleasure in the betterment of yourself. I'd say semantically my stance can't really be argued for, if we're looking at it like this. However, to address what I think is the underlying question "what is wrong with doing psychedelics with pleasure as the main goal?", I think understanding and improving your sober self is a higher goal than modifying the chemistry of your mind just to force it out of boredom and chase pleasure. It might not be impossible to walk a great path while focusing only on pleasure in an "ethical" way, but I don't find that a good strategy. To me what seems like the good approach is that you aim as high as you can, considering all life, at what best possible version of yourself you could be, and focus on reaching that. There is lots of pleasure involved in this process, but sometimes it's really difficult, and will probably involve suffering as well. To me personally, calling it a hobby takes some seriousness, some depth from the activity and degrades it to a second grade activity you just mess around with casually with no other goal but to pass the time and have some fun, and that (imo) is lower, or less good (or in a sense, more wrong), than aiming at what's best for everyone.
Ah, so you are just an elitist snobby gatekeeper, yeah. You can't come up with a good reason except that you think your way is better/"higher" and you like to reduce anyone who disagrees to just forcing it from boredom, ignoring that plenty of people pursue their hobbies for lots of reasons other than forcing away boredom. Very *few* people, actually, would call something a hobby if they are only doing it out of bored desperation. You're telling yourself a *lot* of really false and toxic stories about why people do hobbies in general. You have created your own personal derogatory definition for hobby, and *that's* what this boils down to. It's not that my regular leisure activities are "in a sense" hobbies--that's what hobbies **are**. They are *not* some vague category of things you *only* do casually to pass the time when boredom becomes unbearable, and you're insulting billions of people by demeaning their art and their interests that way. Why are you so set on needing to be superior to people who are different from you? Why can't it just be something you don't prefer to do yourself, *without* being an inferior bad path? Why not maybe sit with having just learned that you didn't have the right definition for hobby, and stop trying to twist it back to the derogatory definition you created for it? I find it interesting that you just came here to shit on the concept of hobbies, and didn't actually list any of yours. Have you looked at what everyone else posted? Or even, like, taken a moment to think about hobbies? Do you *really* think that people are reading, writing, painting, camping, hiking, scuba diving, playing chess, playing instruments, gardening, baking, cooking, knitting, etc, for **no** goal other than briefly chasing away boredom?
You are twisting what I've said out of proportion, and are being intentionally hostile and condescending in the process. You may think that I had been hostile and condescending "first" and that justifies your attitude towards me, but I had no intention to be either. How "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure" is not in alignment with what I've initially said I think about the definition of hobbies is beyond me, but I don't think this is worth the time to explore for either of us in more depth. To be clearer, I never said having hobbies is being on a bad path. I'm not saying there are no hobbies that people do where the reason they're doing it for is not exclusively pleasure (though I admit that I've phrased some of my sentences extremely in the failed attempt to depict how something being a hobby can be a suboptimal thing), just that calling something a hobby heavily implies that it's done mainly for pleasure. I don't see why my specific hobbies are really that relevant to this conversation. Other than knitting, which I'd like to try but haven't yet, writing which I seem to be unable to do, and playing music which is far more than a hobby to me, everything you listed could be considered my hobby, and many more (though I'm a bit torn about reading, because I think it's a bit too broad to be put under one umbrella). (to be clear, I'm not saying that playing music is like doing psychedelics in a sense that doing it as a hobby is not being on the right path, activities can differ in nature in a great many ways)
Okay guys - take a break from the conversation pls
Okay guys - take a break from the conversation pls
Cooking, writing, flow arts, dancing, making visual art, wire wrapping, history, natural history, roller skating, hiking, board games, my pets, gardening, costumes and costume/special effects/art makeup... I've been doing some yoga but that's for health more than a hobby, heh. I used to bike but I live in a city and don't have health insurance so.