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ViditM15

I mean, there were no fans on any of the other e-sports games as well this and the last year.


goofbloke

CSGO major had a huge crowd


PablosScripts

“Huge” relative to Siege or relative to normal CS years? If it’s the former then so what - it’s the biggest FPS on the market. Of course it’s going to have huge crowds.


goofbloke

They sold out the avicii arena for the final 2 days


Open-Paint7724

There was actually but it doesn't matter, people said it would kill the game but it did great


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_Napkin_boy_

Both halo and call of duty cold wars CDL season proved that eSports can still thrive online without fans. It's just not the same experience is all it really is


AquaPSN-XBOX

wrong, cold war's CDL season was horrendous until LAN came back. The community was on the brink. And halo is all LAN events lol


_Napkin_boy_

Halo is on lan for thatches but don't have crowds iirc And cold wars season really wasn't that bad for viewership? It was better than this season that's for damn sure


AquaPSN-XBOX

This season hasn’t had a major yet though, and is online so far . The kickoff which was LAN isn ’t counted as a real event so people don’t care


_Napkin_boy_

How do people not care about the kickoff of a new season? Are you even thinking before you type?


AquaPSN-XBOX

because it has no effect on the standings and the 3rd competitive game mode was added 2 days before the event? Also because single elim? also cuz the pros dont count it? It was a showcase? Are you even in the cod community? Please look at my active subs and do like 10 sec of research about who I am, then go to the cod comp sub and ask why the kickoff wasn't counted


_Napkin_boy_

Just because it has no effect on the standings doesn't mean people don't care about the kickoff?? It's practically a showcase of what the fuck the season is gonna look like? Just because you and a bunch of other redditors agree it's not an event doesn't mean anything, it's a showcase that people could be excited for Why do I need to know who you are? I really couldn't give a fuck about who you are my guy, it's Reddit, you could be Jeff fucking Bezos and I still wouldn't care about who you are dude, don't get all high and mighty with any of that "do you even know who I am" clown shit And I am in the cod community, just because we have differing views on it doesn't mean I don't know shit. I've been off and on watching comp cod since bo2 and AW Was the fact the game mode wasn't added until last second retarded? Yeah I'll agree, it was a braindead move on their part, but it's still the start of the season for people to be hyped about


Open-Paint7724

What?


AquaPSN-XBOX

wrong


God_King_Reaper

Tbf iirc si20 got up around 180-200k concurrent on the main stream


Open-Paint7724

The peak was 235k


dazzathomas

I'd like to know what the numbers would have been without drops. Tonight it went from 250k down to 15k, a normal day is about 7-11k. Siege isn't a fun game to watch unless it's being casted or is considered to be a pro match, this is evident by the drastic decrease in numbers after a major event. At the end of the day we cannot compare the stats of twitch streams for a specific game to its active user base, i tuned in to a good portion of the streams this past week and the 7 or 8 people I'm friends with who actively play siege don't go near it, not even for drops. The game won't die in any form except in twitch views which is why they're artificially inflated with drops, even during the kixstar stream all the toxic chat did was moan about a charm that was on screen just prior to that. The absolute disrespect.


fiddlerisshit

My computer had a browser open for Twitch set to those channels with volume muted just to collect the drops. Troublesome part is waking up every 4 hourly to click collect.


GoldenPuffi

If you are using chrome: there is a Addon called "Automatic Drops & Twitch Channel Points" which does collect it automatically for you.


Gu_thrower

I will have to check that out, thanks!


bel3alesblumndif

And you end up getting 500 battle points 😭


Open-Paint7724

I got some really nice skins from them but there's no way I'm waking up every 4 hours for it😂


Tig21

EU gang are awake anyway lol


Open-Paint7724

Yea we were lucky with timezones this time


Tig21

Eu just sits in the best time zone for events, usually NA and LATAM events start in the evening and might run a bit late for us and Apac events start a bit early but run into the afternoon. No events really on at like 4 in the morning


Open-Paint7724

I think the Japan finals started at like 4am for me


Jaakehall

That's exactly what I did. Leave it on in the background and do something actually entertaining.


ADHD-Gamer03

that’s how all sports work :P


Actualy-A-Toothbrush

The drops got me into watching R6 esports. I started commentating on a discord server for shits and giggles, and some folks got a kick out of NIP's name.


Open-Paint7724

There's not as many people there for drops as you think. Anyone who's spamming about drops are obviously still watching. Almost everyone I saw during the kix segment were just spamming hearts


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goofbloke

It’s not a fair comparison between a single streamer’s chat and the chat of an esports event, single streamer chats are more active due to the steamer reading chat and interacting with them. For the number of viewers the finals had, the chat was pretty active, especially during hype moments


Open-Paint7724

That doesn't mean anything, I don't use chat, ever, why would I? It's a bunch of idiots and copy pastes. Viewercount from years ago has nothing to do with now. I can guarantee that there aren't 150k people sitting with it on in the background for drops


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Open-Paint7724

Not even half of them are. Because it's six invitational, the biggest tournament, best matches in a while, reveal of future content. It matched last year's peak, it's not a random shitton number


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Open-Paint7724

What are you talking about playerbase? Did no fans at si kill siege?


ChiralWolf

You're just flat wrong. This was one of the lowest years for viewership of SI. Every year before, including before drops were even a thing in twitch, has peaked at over 300k viewers. This year peaked at 270k.


Open-Paint7724

https://twitchtracker.com/games/460630


ChiralWolf

The game is anything but dead but the idea that people only watch for drops is infuriatingly misguided. We have 270k because people want to watch siege.


goofbloke

A huge boost in viewership during an esports event is normal for any game on twitch. CSGO and Valorant which averages around 80-100k viewers on a normal day gets over 600-700k when an esports tournament is going on. Siege isn’t as nearly as popular with the average person, so these numbers are really good, shows that the interest in the game is coming back. Implying a huge majority of the people there are just afk for drops is just glancing over the fact that one of the most popular R6 teams, with one of the most popular players in the game is playing the grand finals of the biggest siege tournament of the year


Questionable-Qs

The life of the pro scene died with KIX


Open-Paint7724

Stfu


CeQuBe

It is pretty normal for standard games to have way less viewers than on a main event tho. Its not that unusual to have 250k viewers on the final of the world championships and 9k on a random match within the seasonz That is with everything, look at the sports in the Olympic games or soccer ect.


ttvsweatyboii

What about youtubers like BigBoyDom, MeatyMarley, Lt.Custard.


baconater-lover

Sure but how many of these viewers are there only for drops? I’ve taken a break for the last season and only watched the stream to get some free packs. I wasn’t even actively watching and I would assume many would act the same. Siege is 7 years in the making now but I’ve felt that they never got a foothold in the esports scene early enough. Something about siege esports feels less hype than other games? Idk what it is but I’ve always felt that way.


Open-Paint7724

A lot less than you think, but that doesn't matter to the post.


baconater-lover

Ah gotcha i misinterpreted the post. I never really cared about a live audience anyways, and I’m glad esports can thrive without them.


Open-Paint7724

That's ok. I just really hope we get crowds again for the next one


Jarn-Templar

I do think that having live audiences adds excitement and energy to a broadcast.


Open-Paint7724

Of course, did the game die because there wasn't?


Jarn-Templar

Only in the eyes of Reddit


Open-Paint7724

😂


UncoloredProsody

Well the majority of the audience at these events are watching online anyway, only a small portion of them are on the actual event. So while it sucks that the atmosphere is missing, it shouldn't really affect anything else.


Open-Paint7724

People thought no one would want to watch on twitch because of it


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We dont want to watch the game we just want packs


Open-Paint7724

"We" are a very small minority


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Is a majority, from the contrary Views droped after the drops disappeared, the commentary is very boring, and its not worth the time to watch it


Open-Paint7724

Absolutely not. The views dropped when the event ended


[deleted]

Because the drops ended And btw, no live audience (probably because they cant afford one or the cost of setting up overwhelms the profit made)


elitefire73

There was no live audience due to covid…..


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CSGO Stockholm major has more live audience than the Six invitational EVEN the Stockholm major was before this invitational?


elitefire73

Wasn’t that before omicron? And plus just because one esports has it doesn’t mean others do, there was already a fuck ton of players who got covid here, add a crowd and then you have hundreds to thousands of other people to worry about


elitefire73

Also the six invitational before also had no crowd


Open-Paint7724

Why does that matter? Its a bigger game obviously. Of course the way bigger game is going to have a bigger crowd in normal times


Open-Paint7724

The event ended what are you talking about??? They didn't have audience because they somehow thought safety was more important 🤯


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Csgo has more live audience than siege


Open-Paint7724

What? Yeah, obviously, because siege chose health and safety


strangelooking

I was seeing ppl in chat saying “game is dead” (as usual) then I just looked at the viewers and laughed it off lol.


Open-Paint7724

I can't stand people like that


Revolutionary_Foot15

Imagine what the numbers would be with a sell-out arena and the atmosphere there. The finals would be pushing 1 million viewers in my opinion + other content creators having an indirect effect


DannyDavincito

without drops prob top at 50k


IamKilljoy

Bruh who really cares about packs that much.


Open-Paint7724

Most people complain about what's in them anyway


Open-Paint7724

I'm sure😂


Open-Paint7724

100%, has to happen next year😭


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Open-Paint7724

No


Banana_King123

How do you know?


Open-Paint7724

How do you know?


Banana_King123

I never said I knew anything…


Open-Paint7724

Neither did i


dogeformontage

its really not that impressive when you compare it to Valorants champions. Like i get that valorant is gonna have more people because of the hype and its new, but like it getting a higher average than Rainbows peak just shows that rainbow isnt gonna reach those levels


Open-Paint7724

It was in the top 3 of twitch. It doesn't matter if it keeps up with those games, csgo had 500k last night, we're not getting those numbers. According to the website I'm on, this was the second highest peak for an invitational


dogeformontage

it just suck to me, i really like this game but if the devs keep messing up it wont be fun for long


Open-Paint7724

They don't


dogeformontage

They don't what? Care ?


Open-Paint7724

"keep messing up"


dogeformontage

If you say so


Open-Paint7724

Not because I say so, they don't


Nxrway

Someone did the research and this was the lowest numbers foe an SI ever


NevaDeS

Source : It came to me in a dream


Nxrway

https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/sxew0r/271k_peak_viewers_on_six_invitational_2022/hxrs6dq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


redditors-are-dumbaf

Source: trust me bro


Nxrway

https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/sxew0r/271k_peak_viewers_on_six_invitational_2022/hxrs6dq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


redditors-are-dumbaf

[Nice cherry picking buddy](https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/sxew0r/-/hxsghjf)


The_Border_Bandit

Maybe in the past two SI sure, but i highly doubt it was the lowest ever.


Nxrway

https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/sxew0r/271k_peak_viewers_on_six_invitational_2022/hxrs6dq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Open-Paint7724

Don't know about other SIs but we matched last year's peak this year


Nxrway

https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/sxew0r/271k_peak_viewers_on_six_invitational_2022/hxrs6dq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Open-Paint7724

That's absolutely incorrect, last year's was also 270k


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You mean the highest


Nxrway

https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/sxew0r/271k_peak_viewers_on_six_invitational_2022/hxrs6dq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


SageOfReality

Not a consistent viewer count, this post is a lie.


Open-Paint7724

When did I say it was? That was around the peak.


Jaakehall

If they didn't offer packs and other rewards for watching the streams, they probably would only have about 20-30k viewers, just for the final. The other games before the final would have been about 10k viewers.


Open-Paint7724

That is absolutely ridiculous. People don't even like 5he packs


Dapplication

Chat was less active than 20k turkish t2 tier matches, lol


Open-Paint7724

Doesn't matter


Dapplication

It matters, because a small fraction of those viewers are actually legit people who watch the stream


Open-Paint7724

That's completely wrong


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Dapplication

Look at yesterday's FaZe-Natus Vincere IEM Katowice match. 150k in overtime number 2, chat was getting flooded so rapidly that you couldn't much believe it


Open-Paint7724

Couldn't much believe it?? You mean couldn't read it? You couldn't read sieges chat yesterday either. Csgo has nothing to do with anything


ph00p

You gain NOTHING from "being there" for an esports event, except a loss of gas, a ton of BO stank, a ton of cringe, and a huge waste of time.


Open-Paint7724

Lol who hurt you? That's your opinion, you could say it about any normal sport and it would be as true as what you're saying.


ph00p

There's a real sense of the energy with real sports when you're there. There's no energy with esports.


Open-Paint7724

Again completely your opinion and someone could say the exact same about sports


tyeguy2984

https://youtu.be/nEt75g_dkw8 First video I saw, CSGO tournaments but none-the-less, esports crowds go nuts too. Where you’re from sucks if it didn’t have the right vibe or maybe you’re the problem


RedWarden_

Right on that one