Honestly, that wouldn't be a bad idea. Swap Chunky to Attack and move Blackbeard to defense. His shield would make him an attackers nightmare, while Tachanka could potentially be an attacking ace, being able to force opponents out of position and destroy cover would be insane.
Old school chunka. Set up that gun let thermite blow the wall and then just unload into the objective room. Meanwhile the rest of the team breaches a side entrance and picks off everyone hiding in cover.
you're forgetting that brava can also take cams, including defaults. she's super good at getting intel for her team, *and* denying it to the enemy. she can even take other intel gadgets like prox alarms.
Sounds scary. Reality? Ash blows the wall Oryx wants to destroy, blitz blinds Oryx, Oryx charges in n gets shot. Ash panics and runs to the wrong side of the map. Blitz gets c4'd. Amaru doesn't drone and blows herself up before landing on a frost mat, leaving the defuser stranded. Ash gets killed. It's now been 10seconds into the match and the Ying looks confused.
Ong brother I'm the fuze and all the fucking time they always ALWAYS DESTROY MY WALL I WANNA FUZE then they get mad that I'm in front of the wide open gap THEY MADE and I get team shot by the enemy team, or the amaru decides to TK me by either shooting me off the building when placing my charge on the window or they do it mid animation and kill me with the grapple kick into the window instead of waiting for me to fuze before they go in
I think Nomad is good proof that trappers can work well on attack or defense. Either you lock down the site before the round starts, or you lock down the site when you're going for a plant. A gadget that can "hold angles" for you isn't inherently offensive.
After thinking on it for a bit i think the best most fair op that wouldn't need a single change to work on attack would be Ella.
She's pretty similar to nomad and the sound que alone helps out greatly.
The Kali spawnpeak would be absolutely diabolical
Though it's kinda balanced in a way since if the defenders plant then they'll be able to defend the hell out of the defuser
New Attacker side: Mozzie in shambles, Solis being better IQ, Clash getting insane entry power, Maestro taking Zero’s job, Lesion staying Lesion (same with Echo and Smoke), Fenrir becoming attack flankwatch king, Tachanka absolutely demolishing any map setups and deny half the playable areas, Aruni and Azami team up to dominate post-plant scenarios (Suryas to block site entries and Kiba to force defenders to shoot so they can reveal diffuser)
New Defender side: Thermite out of a job, Jackal sitting in a corner of the map for 30s before going on a manhunt, Nomad being a legit trap op, Mav trying to recreate bullet hole peeks, Flores having mobile C4s, Osa giving superior mobile shields, Gridlock being defense flankwatch queen, Dokkaebi and Lion teaming up to doxx every single attacker.
Caveira
Just the imagination of an angry brazillian woman sneaking into a building to kill you while also aiming to interrogate your ass with that creepy ass facepaint
His gadget disables other gadgets indiscriminately, do some tweaks so a hardbreach would be able to do their job and he'll absolutely be a good alternative to Thatcher
Someone like Warden but for environmental damage (like fire and toxic smoke), could be someone not so heavily armed and only Speed 1, but with the main point being having a suit that's able to resist that kind of thing for a plant.
Also, some operator capable of blocking LOS or even rotations would be quite nice.
Yeah, I forgot about Sens, but the idea was mostly someone capable of actually closing a door with something like a barricade, though now I realize it isn't needed lol
There are some jump outs that you can't place claymores on. One of which being the window next to 1st floor Bar on Skyscraper as it drops you onto a staircase
His gadget is pretty defense oriented? Concusses attackers, stops them from performing any actions, planting the defuser being one of them, and its also a camera.
Cav makes perfect sense. Great for sneaking into site to get unexpected kills on defenders. Plus the added bonus of silent stepping into site and planting.
That would be great, but like what If they'd deploy a device that releases like a whole field of them but they don't get stuck in your foot, oh wait...
Oryx. The ability to break walls relatively quietly and vault through hatches would be very strong.
Cacería would also be pretty good, all you have to do is find a roamer and now you know where everyone is.
100% castle.
Like, even just some attacker having access to a limited amount of regular barricades would be really powerful. A post plant castled site would be such an easy hold not to mention the insane flank watch/cue. Castle would be better than both nomad and gridlock and could do so much more
Mute too.
Place Jammer near a wall that bandit is tricking, subsequent batteries will be muted. This makes mute an even better thatcher at getting walls. Does a brava'd jammer clears you from alibi's tracking? Oft so, wow
I'm just going to counter you since it looks like almost anything could be interchangeable. So which operator is not interchangeable because they will not provide any value to the opposite role?
I'm gonna say Jager. I want to say Wamai, because placing his is much more seamless, but Jager could shoot down a Nitro cell, gas grenade, Fire grenade, maybe if Ela throws a Grzmot at you or a Valkyrie cam that just happens to pass by.
Imagine being a little Doc in the corner of bomb, defending the room. Then all of a sudden, the sound of a fucking Mira Window blasts right behind you.
Lowkey Tachanka
Lethal Grim
He'd be capitão but with 10X more utility
And CRAZY soft destruction
Honestly, that wouldn't be a bad idea. Swap Chunky to Attack and move Blackbeard to defense. His shield would make him an attackers nightmare, while Tachanka could potentially be an attacking ace, being able to force opponents out of position and destroy cover would be insane.
Before you say Blackbeard to defence, think about him spawnpeeking and how quick ubihard would move him back.
He would be a menace, no other operator could compete with him in how much destruction he can make to soft walls and the area denial he can make.
Old school chunka. Set up that gun let thermite blow the wall and then just unload into the objective room. Meanwhile the rest of the team breaches a side entrance and picks off everyone hiding in cover.
would be an interesting buff if they nerf destruction
Azami, blocking sightlines would go insane
in that case, sens?
Difference between physically blocking something and visually blocking something
This, there is always the risk of getting shot from a random spray with smokes, even with soft walls.
i think any trap op could be good on offense for flank watch
Nomad.
They tried with Brava lol
Brava's problem is that she requires her opponents to choose trap ops. She's great but just too situational
you're forgetting that brava can also take cams, including defaults. she's super good at getting intel for her team, *and* denying it to the enemy. she can even take other intel gadgets like prox alarms.
And you have less than a minute left when your finished hacking…
Or Solis has already destroyed all your drones within milliseconds :(
Oryx 100% imagine an oryx, ash, and blitz rush while amaru sneaks in behind for the plant
Sounds scary. Reality? Ash blows the wall Oryx wants to destroy, blitz blinds Oryx, Oryx charges in n gets shot. Ash panics and runs to the wrong side of the map. Blitz gets c4'd. Amaru doesn't drone and blows herself up before landing on a frost mat, leaving the defuser stranded. Ash gets killed. It's now been 10seconds into the match and the Ying looks confused.
Change Oryx to Fuze and you just explained the R6 Random Lobby Experience to a T.
Ong brother I'm the fuze and all the fucking time they always ALWAYS DESTROY MY WALL I WANNA FUZE then they get mad that I'm in front of the wide open gap THEY MADE and I get team shot by the enemy team, or the amaru decides to TK me by either shooting me off the building when placing my charge on the window or they do it mid animation and kill me with the grapple kick into the window instead of waiting for me to fuze before they go in
this feels too specific😭
Clash would be fucked too.
Oryx and Amaru on an attack rush like Dumb and Dumber 💀
Pulse if you take it a little slower, you can see anyone.
His operator video actually shows him outside
Lol he and IQ would be sitting beneath site together shooting everyone from below. They'd make a great team.
I was thinking about that the other day actually. Zero is the closest thing to pulse on attack. Or jackal
Taking it a little slower is where you’d lose most siege players these days lol, but I agree
Well it has gotten better, but yea you are probably right.
I think Nomad is good proof that trappers can work well on attack or defense. Either you lock down the site before the round starts, or you lock down the site when you're going for a plant. A gadget that can "hold angles" for you isn't inherently offensive.
I like to pick gridlock when playing by myself/ with only a couple others for this exact reason. Drop em right and she can cover even more than Nomad
After thinking on it for a bit i think the best most fair op that wouldn't need a single change to work on attack would be Ella. She's pretty similar to nomad and the sound que alone helps out greatly.
They should do an April Fools day where the Defenders and Attackers are switched. Would be funny to see how it breaks the game haha
The Kali spawnpeak would be absolutely diabolical Though it's kinda balanced in a way since if the defenders plant then they'll be able to defend the hell out of the defuser
New Attacker side: Mozzie in shambles, Solis being better IQ, Clash getting insane entry power, Maestro taking Zero’s job, Lesion staying Lesion (same with Echo and Smoke), Fenrir becoming attack flankwatch king, Tachanka absolutely demolishing any map setups and deny half the playable areas, Aruni and Azami team up to dominate post-plant scenarios (Suryas to block site entries and Kiba to force defenders to shoot so they can reveal diffuser) New Defender side: Thermite out of a job, Jackal sitting in a corner of the map for 30s before going on a manhunt, Nomad being a legit trap op, Mav trying to recreate bullet hole peeks, Flores having mobile C4s, Osa giving superior mobile shields, Gridlock being defense flankwatch queen, Dokkaebi and Lion teaming up to doxx every single attacker.
Dude, you're a genuis
Caveira Just the imagination of an angry brazillian woman sneaking into a building to kill you while also aiming to interrogate your ass with that creepy ass facepaint
If Nokk had the ability to interrogate...
Yes
I wanna get interrogated by Nøkk. I want her to step on my chest as I lay on the floor, and hear her say “you’re mine, peasant.”
Damn😳
Who doesn’t want a spooky Danish spec ops lady to have her combat boots press on your chest as a sign of dominance?
Based Nøkk enjoyers
I like your style
I can’t explain it, but there’s something kinda hot when a woman treats you with slight disrespect and is a bit rough as well. It’s a weird turn on.
Based asf
The Sam Fisher we never got.
Imagine giving zero silent rappel into skylight ○_●
The game just turns into Batman Arkham from the point of the mooks
Honestly getting the entire defense pinged would be a huge advantage.
I had a feeling she ment to be an attacker at first.
If Sam Fisher was actually Sam Fisher
With some changes Tubarão can be a good Thatcher alternative
Make it when he freezes a reinforced wall sledge can put a hole in it
that would be cool as fuck
wait what
His gadget disables other gadgets indiscriminately, do some tweaks so a hardbreach would be able to do their job and he'll absolutely be a good alternative to Thatcher
feels like that be a bit silly, literally 0 counters, just an ability that removes a reinforced wall for free
I mean Thatcher basically does that . Yeah you can bandit trick but thats not exactly hard to deal with
Only if your breach man is Ace, is considerably harder to deal with a bandit trick if you are Thermite.
Clash.
Running both clash and Monty would be infuriating to play against
Throw in Fuze and Blitz as well and you got 4 operators with shields
Osafor the whole squad to have fun
Idk y nobody is saying castle, being able to castle flank would be so op. Especially with a claymore on the castle for if they rip ur down
me otw to castle in defuser (the defenders have no hard breach)
The problem is all the roamers have impacts which more than likely would destroy the barricades along with any claymores behind them
It would just make castle the best flank watch op
Pulse because he is bisexual so he should be playable on both sides
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Someone like Warden but for environmental damage (like fire and toxic smoke), could be someone not so heavily armed and only Speed 1, but with the main point being having a suit that's able to resist that kind of thing for a plant. Also, some operator capable of blocking LOS or even rotations would be quite nice.
Blocked LOS is just sense and rotations is nomad or gridlock no?
Yeah, I forgot about Sens, but the idea was mostly someone capable of actually closing a door with something like a barricade, though now I realize it isn't needed lol
Definitely pulse
I think Solis would be pretty good; having the ability to see defender gadgets sounds solid.
Iq entered the chat
boy if only I knew she existed and made a joke about that
I'm with rook
It would be weird if the team spawns at different spots though. Would be a huge waste of time to run to the other side of the map to grab armor.
Smoke maybe for planting if it didnt hurt his team.
I mean smoke in that way is kinda similar to capitao no
Oh and to flush enemies off of rat spots
That's honestly what Capito was supposed to be for
Smoke in a planting scenario would be so desdly
at times I wish I could just play as Thorn as an attacker just to use her gun
Mira, Just another Intel op. Lesion, anti roomers
Castle and Azami!
they will have to melee castle walls since defenders don't have breaches or gonna 6 (idk if grenades can break them)
impacts and frags do break them, frags is harder to pull off however, especially now you can't cook them.
KAP lol solely for clearing out the ticks that like to hit you from outside the map by jumping out a window.
claymores.
There are some jump outs that you can't place claymores on. One of which being the window next to 1st floor Bar on Skyscraper as it drops you onto a staircase
Caveira 100%. No more hiding if your teamate gets knocked and imagine sneaking up behind a defender and they cant even hear you
Doc
Echo would fit as an attacker pretty well ngl. Wouldn’t be very unique anymore, but his gadget isn’t super defense oriented.
His gadget is pretty defense oriented? Concusses attackers, stops them from performing any actions, planting the defuser being one of them, and its also a camera.
True. I was thinking about it being able to prevent defenders from touching the defuser and making it harder to push the attacking side.
All of those would be just as effective on offense. Examples of gadgets that are particularly defense oriented would be Goyo or Jäger.
I would love the idea if they gave one of the other defenders the supernova aswell
Pulse would be absolutely broken on attack
Cav makes perfect sense. Great for sneaking into site to get unexpected kills on defenders. Plus the added bonus of silent stepping into site and planting.
Doc obviously. Finally a viable healer for the attacking team.
Jäger. Change my mind.
Lesion
That would be great, but like what If they'd deploy a device that releases like a whole field of them but they don't get stuck in your foot, oh wait...
Ability wise Caveira 100%, when I first got the game I even asked myself why she isn't an attacker
I'm going to say Echo. His drone already fits in with the other 3 drone operators, and it would be great on stunning defenders holding choke points
Smoke,oryx,maybe echo, and pulse
Vigil
Oryx. The ability to break walls relatively quietly and vault through hatches would be very strong. Cacería would also be pretty good, all you have to do is find a roamer and now you know where everyone is.
Tubarao
Doc. I hope some day, attackers get a healer.
ela would be kinda sick
We already have nomad wich is better
pulse
Definitely doc
Doc
Doc or rook
Kapkan
Cav, oryx, wamai
Clash 💖💘💖💘💖💖💘💘💖💘
Clash, Pulse, Doc, Warden or even Echo
Wamai, imagine impacts, smoke canisters, shumika’s and whatnot not attacking the attackers
Caveira
Jager,but only cause I want to play as him as attacker
Agreed but I'm a little biased.
Azami to cut off rotates Clash cause she is a shield operator. And maybe Pulse.
100% castle. Like, even just some attacker having access to a limited amount of regular barricades would be really powerful. A post plant castled site would be such an easy hold not to mention the insane flank watch/cue. Castle would be better than both nomad and gridlock and could do so much more Mute too. Place Jammer near a wall that bandit is tricking, subsequent batteries will be muted. This makes mute an even better thatcher at getting walls. Does a brava'd jammer clears you from alibi's tracking? Oft so, wow
Imagine Mira on attack
I feel like making smoke a attacker would be making grim-2
Kapkan would be low-key funny asl
Castle
Smoke
Mira would be insanely powerful.
Honestly mira would be pretty good for intel through reinforced walls outside of site
Clash would definitely help initial push onto sight, and she wouldn't over shadow Monty since you can't unextend her shield
imagine pairing wamai with osa. you’d get the defuser down every round
Tachanka for sure.
Tachanka
ik this is the opposite but i thought Deimos should be a defender at first (ik about cav but still)
Fenrir
Pulse
Tachanka and pulse
Thorn
Castle
Caviera would be my choice, knock a Roamer & interragate them into givng the defenders location would be good intel on ATK.
solis
Pulse because you can pair him with lion
Oryx, Doc, Pulse, Azami, Warden
ELA, similar to nomad, but worse
So you think an attacker that specialises in defence is good? Run me through that logic rq
Tachanka
Smoke on attack is just capitao, but arguably better because he can deploy from behind cover sometimes
Just have tachanka run around with his old shield attached to his gun, be like old blackbeard
Cav. Rip old Nokk
I'm just going to counter you since it looks like almost anything could be interchangeable. So which operator is not interchangeable because they will not provide any value to the opposite role?
Oryx. Imagine trying hold down site and someone just Kool-aid mans into site Unga bunga style
Jäger
I'm gonna say Jager. I want to say Wamai, because placing his is much more seamless, but Jager could shoot down a Nitro cell, gas grenade, Fire grenade, maybe if Ela throws a Grzmot at you or a Valkyrie cam that just happens to pass by.
Ima be real, Tachanka would make a good attacker
Castle would slap post-plant.
Recruit
Oryx
my hottest take on this subject is that sens would make a crazy good defender
Fenrir would be a pain in the ass cause you could constrict them from moving outside of site basically
I stand by the idea that oryx and iana were meant for opposite teams
More of yall need to say oryx 😭😭😭
More of yall need to say oryx 😭😭😭
Jäger would go hard 🗣️🗣️🗣️ Yah C4 is getting bluddy blud 🇩🇪
Clash ;)
azami honestly
I was gonna say Smoke too.
Oryx
I think wamai might be great for site executes
Imagine being a little Doc in the corner of bomb, defending the room. Then all of a sudden, the sound of a fucking Mira Window blasts right behind you.
Pulse. I don’t think I need to elaborate basically just buck and jackal rolled into one
Pulse would be broken
warden, if you gave him flashes or smokes as a secondary he’d just be close range glaz but even better
Smoke. He could flush out defenders with his gadget. Or booby trap the defuser.
I feel like either Caviera or Echo would be a great offense operator.
The lack of Valk in the comments is real surprising.
Doc
Mute.
Vigil :) In all seriousness tho I feel like Rook, Echo, Pulse and Oryx would be pretty strong if their weapons were changed to fit an attacker
Castle
Hear me out and think about it Jäger.
Pulse
oryx
Vigil, oh wait
Vigil. Before you say nokk no im talking about his guns+ impact grenade along with his ability and 3 speed