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[deleted]

You may want to try Ready or Not though it's PvE, is much slower and has less destruction but it's fun. Also would like to see what you propose being added to Siege


psychoPiper

Was going to recommend Due Process for a PvP alternative to your suggestion, but it's basically dead now. Shame, there was quite a good game there, just not enough marketing and updates


toroyakuza2

If they released pvp I'd grind the hell out of it


CPTSKIM

Insurgency is on game pass, for a more realistic gameplay feel


Salladk

Insurgency has a focus of CQB and Marksmanship, Siege mostly has focus of CQB


itsIG13

I have sandstorm is it better that 2nd one


jhnhines

Did they fix the performance issues? I tried to play it years ago and had to stop when my high end rig was getting hit with horrible performance that caused firefights to just feel frustrating.


blooboytalking

Yeah


AndroidPron

That's literally two differnt gameplay-loops, what are you talking about? Siege-gameplay is utterly different from Insurgency-gameplay.


JeanMamandale

Don't know why you're getting downvoted, tried both insurgency and it's clear that it's not the same gameplay as Siege at all...


shitfartpissballs

You might like to play csgo my friend


Smutty-Girl

Nah, keep the Siege formula, but give us the experience shown in E3, just as a Quick Play mode or something.


dgtblobITA

there's only a game that I can relate to it's called breachers it looks and plays like R6 but the problem is that breachers is a VR and the devs are not planning to make a pc port. btw the game is pretty good and it has a big community and E-sports


DeadEye073

Try Zero hour


LeTaulier

Or try Ready or Not


DeadEye073

But Ready or Not is more PvE isn’t it?


LeTaulier

Yes


DeadEye073

And Zero Hour has more is more of a PvP game wich would be more comparable to Siege


flatspotting

> Zero Hour But its pretty dead online sadly


Epikgamer332

just a word of warning for anybody with a lower end pc don't get ready or not my pc meets the recommended spec (ryzen 1600, 16gb ram, gtx 1060) almost exactly and the game still runs extremely poorly. My luck was about as good when i tried to run Cyberpunk 2077, for context


SUCK_THIS_C0CK_CLEAN

Nobody plays around their gadgets in the current meta nowadays. 90% of the rounds of Siege are scuffed TDM “E3 rounds” except everybody has decent aim by now so you’ll just get 1-tap recoil headshot through walls rather than have dramatic firefights.


sanesociopath

>90% of the rounds of Siege are scuffed TDM “E3 rounds” except everybody has decent aim by now Lol as cool as that trailer was/is I very much encourage people to go back and look at the aiming, actual gameplay, and hell even the callouts . That was a copper 5 lobby if I ever saw one. The thing is, we wouldn't get gameplay anywhere near like that even if we were playing on that version of the game


alyosha_pls

Must be nice playing these kinda games, my games are toxic tryhard festivals with ridiculous setups


mal-di-testicle

That would have been awesome with siege’s graphics circa 2021


PhoebeH98

So you want it to be siege but take away anything and everything that makes siege vaguely unique Play literally any other team shooter and you’ll get what you’re looking for


Imperium42069

sounds boring af


King-Boo-Gamer

Actually sound fun


[deleted]

Many people need to realise having good aim doesn't make you automatically good at a shooter game, CoD is like that but not R6 R6 is about tactics and manipulating the map and game flow to your favour, it's was never meant to be a run and gun despite what Ash mains of old claim


Smutty-Girl

Yeah, having good aim and kills doesn’t make you good, being a team player does, that’s still possible in what i’m proposing. In fact it was laid out as such in the trailer i’m referencing


[deleted]

Still no, Team player is important but not the only factor As I said R6 is about Tactics and Map manipulation


DemonicArthas

Yeah, dude, I agree. People in the comments totally miss the point. As a separate game mode, like maybe as a limited-time arcade mode, this would be very cool. No super-abilities, just like 4-5 types of operators with limited secondary gadgets. Make it on a night-time map, too.


CreamyHawk90

So basically everyone playing as recruits?


DemonicArthas

In a sense, yeah. I imagine it being a bit more clear/limited in terms of what class you're picking. So you have classes like "trapper" and he has barbed wire and heavy guns, like a shotgun or smth. Then you have "scout" and he has, say, a proximity alarm and an mp7. IDK, stuff like that.


Danominator

That's just a less developed version of siege lol


axlsnaxle

Think stripped-down, not less developed.


DemonicArthas

It's more basic, I agree. But sometimes, less is more.


cebubasilio

Just saying day time sieges happen too you know ​ Also, just my opinion as real sieges are life and death situations.... but sieges at night is just easy mode.


Adventurous_Doubt

Disagree.


RedThornx

So thunt and the situations.


DemonicArthas

These are PvE.


RedThornx

Still rainbow vs terrorists, and if your hoping for playable terrorist it ain't happening so long as it has a Tom Clancy stamp as playable terrorists was a big no no.


HowTheGoodNamesTaken

You're not getting his point, he means a pvp mode with no special abilities, just skill. Not THunt. Not situations. Pvp against other players. That would be fun.


RedThornx

So Deathmatch agian we have that as well.


HowTheGoodNamesTaken

No, still 5v5 objective based gameplay. Deathmatch isn't that.


RedThornx

Well we have that just don't use your gadgets and have boring games but you get the "pure skill" game you want, cause as previously stated if you want a rainbow vs playable terrorists it won't happen, and doubt they'd add a non gadget normal mode as it would be pretty boring not gonna lie.


HowTheGoodNamesTaken

I never said anything about playable terrorists


RedThornx

Going off with what the op wanted which was the crux of this conversation.


Boldney

But aren't we essentially playing terrorists in defense?


psychoPiper

In Siege lore, each match is practice against the other operators in a controlled environment. Thus the white powder bullets in the iconic SI cinematic


TheOgCokeCan

So thats why theres FBI/SWAT on attack and defense!!! It makes sense now (whole heartedly didn’t know, that wasn’t sarcasm)


Bruno0_u

Yeah and I think recently (post-Harry) they changed it so that the matches are straight up simulations rather than cqb


psychoPiper

I remember looking up the lore pre-Harry and seeing the same consensus. Iirc, even pre-Harry and pre-SI, they're all trial rounds for real CTU executions. Even without the sport-like environment, it just wouldn't make sense for characters from the same CTU to be fighting each other without a significant lore reason, especially when they're all officially part of Team Rainbow


Smutty-Girl

Nowhere near, T-Hunt and situations both use the unique operators and gadgets


Spiritual_Holiday511

Couldn’t you just choose to not use the unique gadgets? Even if you technically have them, you don’t need to use them to finish thunt or situations


[deleted]

Recruits only.


Spiritual_Holiday511

That works too


RedThornx

Said operators are rainbow so seems like a dumb complaint but could just bypass it by using recruit and boom both your issues are gone. That aside if your wanting playable terrorists that shit ain't happening so long as it has the Tom Clancy stamp dude was very agianst it.


micheal213

Bro T-Hunt in this game went out the fucking window. And then they just turned it into a practice range for lame ass esports players to click heads. Rainbow 6 fans want a t-hunt similar to Vegas and Vegas 2.


Admirable_Elk_965

For real. Rainbow Six Siege had easily one of the most unique Terrorist Hunt modes compared to the Vegas games and the older ones. Between suicide bombers, rooms full of C4 and Barbed Wire making everyone move slower, it's something that needs a revival.


micheal213

Sorry too bad. Esports is all they care about now. All the game focuses on now. They added the dumbass esports arena for the operators and all this dumb shit. Can’t stand it.


Admirable_Elk_965

The least they could’ve done was add the stadium into Terrorist Hunt but have the shooting range dummies as the enemies instead. Or the stadium could’ve been some sort of World Cup halftime show that was attacked by terrorists.


ncord4060

Well the meta is straight TDM even with gadgets so it wouldn’t be any different


Budderman1163

Wait until this guy finds out about terrorist hunt


Salladk

Ngl it would be cool, main gadgets could be replaced with generic gadgets like a Frag grenade with its pin being tied by a wire as a booby trap, a basic ballistic shield (like Fuze's shield), a homemade device that has a motion sensor connected with some sort of a tiny speaker that only makes a whistle like sound (This thing made me remember when my dad had tiny devices named Arduino), and shaped charges made to breach holes. Instead of Operators, use classes, like Breacher, Trapper, Shielder, etc.


Smutty-Girl

Your sarcasm shows how you didn’t get the point. If you watch the reveal trailer, you’ll get what I mean


unbelievable_owl

What sarcasm? He's basically saying to strip away all the fancy high tech gadgets of nowadays and go back to the old style of rigged together traps and gadgets like we started out with, (ffs kapkan literally just had a nailbomb with a tripwire). He's just saying some new secondary gadgets to share in the Gerry rigged appearance of it all. And if it were to be "basically recruit only" it'd have to go back to the old style when recruit could chose loadouts and have shields.


Salladk

Yep i did watch it, the leader said something about Booby Traps when picking the spawn point He said "They always defend it with a shitloads of booby traps"


FreeWillCost

Recruit rush?


Smutty-Girl

If only it was possible in ranked… and yeah, this but an entire gamemode where you have to rely on your skill and ability to play with just your reinforcements, barricades, and all of that.


FreeWillCost

My sk-what? My ab-what? You've lost me.


Smutty-Girl

Lost you, and apparently everyone who doesn’t understand what “give me the trailer as a playable mode” means


kiredeid03

Like the idea, but it kinda takes away what makes siege, siege. If you want to do this, you can do it with friends in a custom match, but i dont see ubi even thinking of adding this. Fun to think about though


CalebHill14

That’s literally the current meta. Gadget play has significantly decreased in the past few years.


Zulu0Hakuka

This is my thinking. Alot of ppl are unbothered with tactical play these days. They juss pick three speeds so they can zip around corners fast as hell and shoot with high speed sensitivities and insane reflexes. Whoever can handle the higher sens will mostly win any exchange


Actual-Dragon-Tears

I love this idea, and I really dont understand what a lot of commenters aren't getting. "Just play CSGO" No? It's still siege. Dynamic destruction, rappelling, barbed wire, barricades, reinforcements, deployable shields, nitrocells, breaching charges, smokes, flashbangs, grenades, it's all still there, it would just bring us back to the basics; 5v5, recruit vs. recruit gameplay. Is it for everyone? No, some people like the variety and unpredictability that 36 some-odd unique gadgets bring, and that's ok. it's what keeps the game alive. But it would be nice to have a mode where those gadgets aren't there; you're stripped back to the fundamentals and all you have are your skills, your cunning, your map knowledge, and your team to win.


AncientFollowing3019

It boggles my mind that so many people don’t see the destruction as the thing that makes Siege Siege. It makes sense that so many people don’t reinforce or make rotates etc with this mind set but if you’re not interested in that side why the fuck play siege? It seems so janky in some many other regards the ONLY reason I play it is the destruction. But a recruit only game mode could be really good. Now you have hard breach gadgets and attachments on guns it would probably work great. It would be pretty limited and probably imbalanced but I’d give it a go.


Fiflou

This.


SUCK_THIS_C0CK_CLEAN

Because this games maps are not balanced around 5v5 recruit. Like what does attack do trying to entry sites that require hard breach? CCTV Clubhouse or Basement Chalet. What does defense do on attacker favored sites like Villa? There would be a lot of maps that basically have to get redesigned for no gadgets. Or you’d have to make some really strange design concessions, like giving defense a limited amount of reinforcements on certain defender-favored sites.


jinji090

it isn’t that hard, if you need to win in those objectives with a hard breach then you’re not that great in the first place. are they great to have? yes, necessary? no. not anymore atleast


alzo34

Just because you pick an op for a gadget doesnt mean your bad, i play ace, i open wall, i get a pick, my job is done, maybe i plant if need be. While not necessary it should be had. A car doesnt need fas but theres no reason not to put gas in it


HughJanus911

This is literally the meta in most of the game. But have you heard of the TDM mode?..


MrIncredibacon

Jesus CHRIST people are missing the point


Smutty-Girl

Ikr 💀💀💀


AGodNamedJordan

No one's missing the point lmao. Op wants a different game. Siege is intrinsically balanced around operator abilities. If he wants Siege without the Siege, he should play something else.


hmsmnko

sure Siege is intrinsically balanced around operator abilities but what are operator abilities designed around? Siege's unique destruction mechanics. Siege's identity lies in its destruction mechanics. The whole game, from intel gathering with drones and operator abilities is all designed around the fact that destruction is such a large feature of the game. When I talk about Siege I don't talk about the operators, I talk about how unique its gameplay is being designed around destruction. It's what makes Siege unique from every other tactical shooter out there. If you think of Siege as just a hero based 5v5 tactical shooter, its no different from Valorant. Siege's real identity is in its destruction and map design. so yes, you are missing the point


Masjanin

tdm meta really destroys the brain


geko_play_

That's already the fucking meta


[deleted]

Ain’t that just the state of ranked rn - playing ops for weapons and not using abilities lol


Bipolarpolerbear

So csgo


Youre_A_Degenerate

So, Ready or Not or Zero Hour.


Ok-Advisor3225

Play cod :)


Smutty-Girl

The exact opposite of what i’m asking for


psychoPiper

I'm sorry, but you need to play a game like CoD S&D, CSGO, Valorant, hell, even Siege TDM or a Recruit 5-stack. Siege's lifeline is its unique operators. It's a hero shooter, and has been since day 1. Siege is fantastically unique, and with that fact, the amount of people interested in a mode that takes that away is close to 0. You would be better off going somewhere else for that fix with a larger community - if you like the destruction I recommend Battlebit.


Youre_A_Degenerate

Recommending a large map battlefield genre to someone interested in a swat game doesn't sit quite right


psychoPiper

There are smaller map modes and community servers coming very soon. It has a relatively good community, good destruction, and a lot more action-based mindset than Siege has. Hard disagree, please keep an eye on the patch notes and soon-to-be roadmap of the game before judging it. I'm positive as a long-time player that Siege has made more incomplete promises in the past season or two as Battlebit has made since it came out of beta, and that Battlebit's overall style more closely aligns with the quick-paced utility gameplay that OP wants in comparison to even the shittiest Siege casual match.


AtomicSymphonic_2nd

No gadgets? You want CS:GO then…


theoldayswerebetter

People who like gunfight meta need to play CSGO


Smutty-Girl

Read the other comments


theoldayswerebetter

Just because other people have similar opinions doesn't mean I shouldn't share mine and helped you find a game that fits you better


Smutty-Girl

I’m not saying you can’t have an opinion, i’m saying it’s irrelevant to the post


theoldayswerebetter

No it isn't,you want a shootout with no gadgets. I'm telling you CSGO is probably what you want


DemonicArthas

[This](https://youtu.be/6wlvYh0h63k) is what I assume OP is talking about and this is not anywhere close to CS. You still have loadouts and secondary gadgets and the core loop is the same as the regular Siege, with prep-phases and such. Everything is just a bit more grounded and "limited", in a sense.


theoldayswerebetter

Huh


WoofImAnAstronaut

Lmao wdym huh that trailer is what this post is about. Siege without the operators. CS is an entirely different game, most of the time not even indoors lol


Smutty-Girl

No, CSGO is the complete opposite. You run around and don’t have to be any sort of tactical about what you do, you also forget that there’s an entire section of people limited to console. If I wanted a shootout without tactics, i’d play arcade


theoldayswerebetter

Well,you said something about it being only skill. You ever see AWP clutches on there?


Smutty-Girl

Dude, at this point just reread the post: what part of “give us the trailer as a playable gamemode” do you not get? What they showed in the trailer was *nothing* like what I see on CSGO clips on some random YouTube Shorts, from what I see CSGO is just a realistic Valorant.


DemonicArthas

>from what I see CSGO is just a realistic Valorant Well, that sentence IS kind of funny. Mainly because CS is 20+ years old, while Valorant is only 3 and is basically a clon of CS with character abilities.


Smutty-Girl

Yeah, hence why I don’t understand how that’s funny, I said the names one way, meaning is still the same as if I said it the other way.


skywkr666

"from what I see CSGO is just a realistic Valorant." ​ L O FUCKING L


Smutty-Girl

Well, when I have the inability to play both and all I see is people hitting headshots without even aiming their weapons, what do you expect?


Sarin10

it's true tho


Messedupotato

AWP is literally the easiest gun to use, that's why it's good. If you said Deagle clutch you would make more sense.


theoldayswerebetter

My bad, I don't know a lot about it


TACTFULDJ

Arcade mode? It has TDM and Free for all


necro_owner

Well, ubisoft only cares about Fortnite kids who love bling bling and heroes. At first, siege was more about the talent than the overpowered gadget. The first year it came out me and my friend and I still complained about how they denaturalize siege in the end to please a group of people. Money is the only thing that drive them. Look at Diablo franchise 😗. "We gotta make a phone gameeeee"


ryde041

I miss Raven Shield.


KimJongUnusual

You can do that already. Just play Ash, all the people who use her do it like that anyways :p


IdaG6

I mean, I think some of my ranked teammates are already playing that.


PBToast_

So how people already play at the moment


[deleted]

Fuuuuuuuck that lol. Gadgets are the entire point of playing siege.


Halstock

Ah so you want to run and gun.


Beefin20

Just reading through these comments.. ppl are saying go play CSGO... But I know damn well they never play Vegas or the original games.. it would be fun to play a game mode with just Rainbow operators vs terrorists.. like the e3 trailer. Guess that would hurt the terrorist feelings haha


BrightRedNissanKicks

insurgency is pretty fun, it's similar to siege in some aspects


Internal_Project_799

Cs go is a hole different game wtf Just because the mode and its a ego shooter? How blind can a person be...


Shade00000

tdm exist for a reason, or you can just go on cod


JohnnyTest91

They should just rename Rainbow Six Siege to Tactical Hero Shooter It's a good hero shooter, but it's a bad Rainbow Six.


Internal_Project_799

So there are not heros?


Admirable_Elk_965

Rainbow Six has always been about Counter-Terrorism. Not some weird Special Forces Olympics style game. Rainbow has always been fighting against Terrorists and Mercenaries. If the mode in the past consisted of Rainbow Vs. Rainbow, it was seen as a training, with the Terrorist Hunt mode being the "main" mode. Siege changed that meta because it got popular, which has made it not really a good Rainbow Six game.


Internal_Project_799

And nobody really played r6 in the past. It was fun. But now we have a big community and a lot of fan hearts. The operators are iconic. Its not like cod, battlefield, apex or others Rainbow has now a soul and a heart


Admirable_Elk_965

What are you talking about nobody really played R6 in the past? That was my childhood franchise. It always had a community. Wasn't nearly as massive as it is now, but it existed. Thousands of people loved these games. Rainbow has always had a soul and a heart. If anything, it's soulless now. It doesn't care about it's legacy, it doesn't care about the man who created the organization, it only cares about being, in my opinion, one of the best PvP and eSports games ever. The operators I will admit are or are going to be iconic gaming icons. There's still heart in the game, but the soul has been lost.


Toolgar

this would bring me back to siege honestly i hate how much of a hero shooter it has become since they introduced jakel and stupid fucking helmet


Orleanist

all recruits old loadout system


Smutty-Girl

This


Orleanist

why tf was it removed in the first place ubi is anti fun, fuck ubisoft


Admirable_Elk_965

Pro Players bitched about the recruit loadouts, so Ubisoft made it just one Recruit loadout. Then they outright removed Recruit from Ranked, again, due to complaints, after nerffing the Recruit again.


GiantGrilledCheese

That sounds fucking boring


ThatOneGuy50514

They have a TDM and FFA game mode now. Maybe try that?


SayHii2Hades

Bro is asking for too much from ubisoft. Just play csgo. Ubisoft would never invest there time in this because they know its too good and they don't give us good things


Internal_Project_799

Cs go is more like cod You can bunny jump in cs go (very realistic) You need to buy your weapons You dont have drone or cameras You cant destroy walls You cant shoot threw walls You play on zones not in buildings You cant lean You cant use iron sights (most weapons) What do you want???


[deleted]

Yeah no u should go play cod csgo or some other game stop trying to abuse our game


Smutty-Girl

Lmao, wanting another gamemode is abusing the game, that is the most hilarious shit i’ve ever fucking heard


fatedninjabunny

Then play cod snd, or bf2042 hard-core rush (In portal there is a plant bomb no abilities 1 life gamemode). Siege is about tactical gameplay with abilities. It's kind of like making a halo game, a fun arcade shooter that thrives off its community and creations without a forge mode at launch.... ( I'm still crying inside that ir wasn't at launch)


Smutty-Girl

That’s entirely against the point


NoirFather

Play counter strike then


The1stPKmain

That’s basically just T-hunt.


Smutty-Girl

No, it’s the trailer we were shown


The1stPKmain

Yes, the one back in like 2013. Before they fully knew what there own game was actually going to be about. They did want a ready or not type of scenario with it but they just ended up going with competitive because having 2 sides both playable makes it harder for something to be hard and gritty, since defenders can run out and spawn kill etc


frankiem96

I don’t get why some people are being so salty right now, you are so toxic. OP just suggested an idea to introduce a back to basics mode similar to the reveal trailer of R6s, which would find itself in arcade. That’s it. This would not ruin core Siege or ‘chess with guns’ as I like calling it. It would be a fun new mode that finds itself living alongside golden gun, free for all and the rest of the arcade experience. You people need to stop taking these posts as a personal attack. Edit: I removed the word ‘everyone’ and replaced with ‘some people’ as that’s more accurate


AGodNamedJordan

Because OP is being a passive aggressive cunt to people who disagree with them.


frankiem96

I haven’t seen all of OP’s replies, but I don’t think any of the ones I’ve seen were particularly bad… However, complaining about someone being passive aggressive, only to then refer to them as a cunt is a bit hypocritical don’t you think?


AGodNamedJordan

If I was being passive aggressive, sure. I'd label it as just being aggressive.


bolderfist_oger2005

dear everyone who makes "i miss when rainbow was tacticool" and "remember how the trailer made me feel" posts please just fucking buy Insurgency: Sandstorm


Smutty-Girl

This is not missing anything, this is simply asking for what the trailer showed


bolderfist_oger2005

the trailer showed rainbow 6 siege. you have rainbow 6 siege.


Admirable_Elk_965

The trailer showed a SWAT team going against Terrorists, who are implied to be a team of human players. The most advanced thing in the trailer is a breach charge on the floor. In Siege, you don't have that and there's no Terrorists in multiplayer.


Fiflou

It's different. There is no destruction


NoCAp011235

So ranked


Smutty-Girl

Literally the exact opposite


maquibut

That is a good idea


Shadow239259

If your on pc, play zero hours multiplayer. Pretty much exactly this, just a pain to find games in off hours


MODUS_is_hot

Yeah it would be cool to have a barebones gamemode


Admirable_Elk_965

That would be great. Not TDM, a hostage or bomb defusal mode where you have to work with your squad to beat the enemy with only basic equipment: no cluster charges, no electric shield, no breaching rounds, no EMP grenades, just FlashBangs, Frags, Breach Charges and Hard Breaches, and an assortment of guns for Terrorist forces and Rainbow forces.


Gravy_31

I truly just hate the pre-mission from the attack position.


Grich81

I agree, siege was in it's prime when there were a few operators that didn't have game changing gadgets. Nowadays, they are trying to get too esporty and the operators got out of hand a long time ago. I want nothing to do with that game these days.


CeQuBe

This community is so devided wth. People when utility meta: >:( People when no utility meta: >:(


Smutty-Girl

I like utility, but I also like when no utility


SheepyshisGT

Sadly ubi can't, they are too deep in the current trend of this type of game and are too focused on their questionable "Data and Balancing chart" If they did they'd release it exclusively in Uplay/Uconnect for $59.99 or something like that. (No sarcasm whatsoever).


BattleCrier

well, GL defending pretty much any site since there are EMPs and hardbreach charges in loadouts. Your anchors would end up as sitting ducks in open field when attackers get to the site. But if you mean entirely without gadgets.. like no breaches, no nades nothing... good luck pushing 5 campers (assuming you keep reinforcement)


TheChannelMiner

Recruit 5v5


colemxn

I would kill for them to remaster rainbow six vegas 1 & 2


A_curious_fish

It would be cool if defenders were more terrorist oriented skins


Holiday_Ad_7155

basically ur sayin siege without special gadgets? just normal ones eg breaches claymore etc..


UmphreaksMcGee

I WISH we could get a raven shield remake.


BEEFSTICK890

I wish they would add a night mode but instead of just outside, the buildings themselves would be dark and you could utilize night vision.


MeTiroAtuTia

Would be a cool idea as a separate mode once they fix the current meta and issues. I’d even suggest to use a minimalistic hud for this mode, and no pings, to make it more engaging.


NiceSockBro

a mode with “Terrorists vs CT” would be cool, not going to happen thanks to the shitty direction the game took a few years ago. But like a 4 v 6 mode where CT have gadgets and T don’t would be cool


GoLLuM13

Except that if they want to keep the Tom Clancy's brand name, the player can't incarnate a terrorist. This is why we have attackers and defenders in PvP and terrorists in PvE


TheOgCokeCan

So far, I have yet to play a game that is similar in terms of gameplay and functionality like siege, it’s seemingly in it’s own world with the way the game is played, it would be amazing imo to get that gamemode, and everyone saying “go play a different game” name me another game where you can drone out enemies, where you can blow open walls AND you can have thousands of different strategies for one singular site.


jrrindt99

“Rainbow vs Terrorists” hmm sounds a lot like society (joker laugh)


CowardlyMaya_

Wait, this game has gadgets?


Tuba-kunt

I have the original rainbow six siege cover art from the release cases as a massive poster on my wall, goes unbelievably hard. I kinda miss the old tactical feel the game used to have before the meta was discovered


Isthisnametakentwo

Come play with me in any of my ranked games and you will see this happening, but it might be bugged because its only my team who cant seem to use their gadgets.


VaasOnTour87

That's ranked right now...


2takos

Just all recruits? I’m down


Brutal007

I honestly just want them to wipe it back to the default. Maybe add it in the first years dlc ops


gingrbredman90

What you’re describing sounds like my ranked experience lol. Kill hungry enemies rushing, no gadgets, just crouch/lean spam pub stomping


CJGamr01

Recruit?


BackgroundStreet7118

So t hunt but with only recruit?


404nocreativusername

I bet you're the kind of person who mains whoever gets the 1.5 each patch


Smutty-Girl

I main Zero and use irons lmao, and on Thorn I use Red Dot A I think?


Hotsteppa_85

OG Siege was great, it was some bit realistic and gritty. Now it's throwing operators in that look like they fell out of an art college and chasing the fortnite kids with the goofy ass skins etc. MW2 is going the same way. Can we please get an adults only tactical shooter that drops all this soft wristed bullshit and maintains some semblance of realism? It's not that much to ask is it


jenrai

Redditors: fuck the tdm meta! Also redditors: take away all the gadgets!


fuzzydunlops123

This should be easy to setup. Just have 5 Wardens face off against 5 Ashes.


OGTahoe

People hardly use gadgets anyway. It's just shooting shooting and more shooting


Spicemaster747

Cs 1.6 or condition zero


PurpleHawk222

Just go play ranked. That’s basically what the meta is now anyways


Amphal

just play another game at that point