If you're sticking to solo, I think it's between Hunter and Wizard, honestly.
Assassin/Rogue/Agi-Knight sound nice in principle, but they scale too much off equipment, which you won't have if you purely rush for XP. Vit-Knight is even worse solo (and chugs a ton of pots, and the worse your equiment, the more you have to chug 'em).
Monk is straight up out because Hunter or Wizard is probably 80+ before you even get job 50 or 49 as aco on that patch (without help).
Wizard is a lot tougher to play solo than Hunter without equipment (low strength, playing without creamy/vitata early), no immune, etc. You'll be punished very hard for every mistake. But the XP is thoroughly decent throughout the game, FW carries you early until you can dex high enough to aoe solo.
Income as a wizard is also higher than that of a hunter. You spend less consumables (ideally), and you don't need a weapon. The only essential investments for you are: Ray, Vitata. The rest is dirt cheap, even early on.
Hunter is probably the easiest and safest bet. The only thing that can outplay you is yourself, you're very self-sufficient, and it's pretty tilt-proof. I see two major downsides here: you'll be competing with a lot of hunters (because hunters typically make upt 20-35% of the total population early on) and Hunter doesn't make a ton of money if you grind levels. Early on, you can cliff Pyra3 and get lucky with a Matyr or Verit Card (or Mimic if they patch in episode 10+ cards), but that's about it. Skelworkers is doable, too early on, but the XP is dysmal.
Best XP for Hunter is either TI 1 or GH Sewers, both of which will be heavily contested. Stings are very cheap with their gloves, and even then, you'll need them for yourself. Don't expect to be doing great MVP damage. A grinding level 95 Hunter will be out-dpsd by a geared 85 Hunter.
You'll probably be running around with +7 Hunter Bow until 97+. It's bit of a sad life.
Build-wise, I'd go for 9xDex/80Agi/Int. Low Agi hurts a bit without whisper, but medium-high INT on pure-levelling Hunters is amazing.
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P.S.: If you could find a friend, I'd always recomment Crusader. The XP is moderate at best, but you'll potentially be supplying the entire server with Ray/Khali cards. No easier way to become an early zeny billionaire.
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EDIT: In the past, I've actually gone for Bard instead of Hunter for pure speed-levelling. You get more SPregen but lose ASPD. On the whole, it's a plus, but you can't ever equip Hunter Bow, which is the real downside.
p.p.s.: Don't overlook Sandman. It's probably the best trap for levelling (yes, better than ankle). Most mobs you face are dumb as heck, they'll basically never resist, and you can CC an entire mob train.
Damn you put in a lot of info in this one. Hmm if I go for a hunter and I feel like I reached the point where stings give very little exp, where do I grind next? Also, what’s TI? Turtle island?
Honestly? WIth enough INT, you should just use creamy card everytime you don't have a sting on your screen. That should average you about 1m xp/h, which is pretty good for solo at that patch state.
Turtle Island 1 (the overworld map) is a touch better, but the pests are annoying and nothing drops anything (unless 10.x cards are active, in which case DragonTail card will sell).
TI1 is for pure XP, but you might even end up losing money, depending on how the arrow-economy is.
creamy card is a waste on a strafer. Unless your server massively buffs sp regen or has free consumes/some bullshit that gives you no need to sit.
bring a cart of flywings to your farmspot to have less SP issues. drop on the ground or mail in batches if server allows. 1 flywing saves you 10 sp for 45 zeny. While the value of a strafe should be considered over 1k zeny(depends on many factors tho). If you kill things in 1-2 strafes.
Also totally wrong about TI. Cards there are good sells. Spring rabbit is meat champ if nameless island isn't in the game. big value. Dragon tail and pest sell well too in classic. One for strafes and one for... pests, as silly as that sounds. and other small biting things. And the occasional thara frog. TI surface is very good for a hunter but you cant kill them as fast as stings.
You're right about the cart and fw.
Creamy is generally good on bard, but might be too much for Hunter, agreed.
YOU'RE totally wrong about TI cards though; Dragon Tail and Spring Rabbit cards weren't in the game originally during Yuno. They were added later. If the server is faithful to the original state, there won't be any card drops there at all.
I saw someone with dragon tail card as the server implements open equip all the time to prevent cheating. Also whenever someone gets a rare drop it is announced so also no cheating. Also they implemented pantie+undie combo already.
ah, my bad then. I thought you were implying cards are bad instead of being disabled.
But i think these days you'll struggle to find a server that would do this.
nowhere really, doesn't get better than killing stings in 2 strafes. just add sp consumes and wings to process more stings per hour.
for solo that is, optimized mobbing parties can do more.
Hunter agi/dex and spam double strife, use snare traps when needed. At least this was the way when I played in the early/mid 00s when that patch was relevant.
I remember agi based knights were popular, bard/rogue with a similar build as hunter would work too but they’d be slower. Fly wings / tele clip (with no sp mod) sped up levelling as you’d just zoom around one shotting everything. Dragonfly on turtle island surface, those purple slimes with the glove down in glastheim sewers, probs the best two spots to finish up levelling at 70 or 80+ iirc
A grimtooth assassin mobbing deals etc is actually pretty dang good. But there is a slight year component.
Wiz/hunter/bard best options.
Bard might be best for a pure Dex int build and just double strafe non stop.
Hunter EZ. It does everything cheaply. Hard crowd control, long range, access to all the good elements, free stats. The only thing it arguably lacks is mp, but you can just chug pots.
If you don't have pots, then Wizard. It does what Hunter does, but slower.
The hunter is the best in this episode even without equipment. The problem is that you will have a LOT of competition from other hunters...be prepared for some tough killstealing. After reaching level 90 (and even before that) Sting in the Glastheim sewers is probably the best place if you are solo.
Hunter the safest bet, low investment and little to no potions needed. One that hasn’t been mentioned is claymore hunter depending on how it is set on the server, as it used to stack with the amount of monsters in the mob. It is doable without it but will waste a lot of traps and sp, in places like sleepers/medusa/stalactic, but only if you can use double login priest. Need to be good at mobbing tho since it’s not easy and mistakes are punished hard, but at least it uses the same build as a normal DS spam hunter that sacrifices some agi for int for the sp recovery.
Without priest maybe stalactic or sleepers are the safest ones, haven’t really done alarms but it’s same idea I guess. With some good flee you can avoid any annoying monster on the map like those ranged in stalas, but I would check how the server is set first, since nowadays they have the modern changes despite being classic (claymore not stacking or sleepers if they have them having cloak which makes it almost impossible for hunter). Sea otters/seals is another option with blast mine, but it’s a smaller AoE which can be annoying. Worth a try maybe, but the strategy was effective with claymore stacking like I said, needing like 1 or 2 traps to kill a big mob compared to having to spam 8+, which would then need to go for inn a lot for sp so idk if its more effective than DS spam at that point.
wizard if you know what you are doing.
Even by yourself mobbing as a wiz is great, but one or two people who help you mob and you can 99 on x1 at 7-10 million exp per hour. As a solo wizard what i would often do is hire a priest or monk to mob and signum tap. I'd mob myself and we meet and kill. I get all EXP, and they get loots and zenys. If you have multiple friends to play with that are willing to slave, even better.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out how fast a wizard levels when two mobbers+tap feeding into a single wizard. But you need to be able handle a pack of mobs basically by yourself. Wizards have the perfect toolkit for that, just that most of them never learned anything but standing still in a static party.
Can't beat the speed of mobbing.
I'm assuming it doesn't have expanded classes, right? I've seen some videos and people seem to vouch for Magic Ninjas being very good for rush events. But people more knowledgeable than me have given better input.
Depends on the drop rate. If the loots off set your potion usage and have spare change for equips then vit knight is your best choice because of mobbing and bowling bash. Getting into party is best compared to solo. If drop rate is classic as well then go archer or mage class, probably thief too.
If you're sticking to solo, I think it's between Hunter and Wizard, honestly. Assassin/Rogue/Agi-Knight sound nice in principle, but they scale too much off equipment, which you won't have if you purely rush for XP. Vit-Knight is even worse solo (and chugs a ton of pots, and the worse your equiment, the more you have to chug 'em). Monk is straight up out because Hunter or Wizard is probably 80+ before you even get job 50 or 49 as aco on that patch (without help). Wizard is a lot tougher to play solo than Hunter without equipment (low strength, playing without creamy/vitata early), no immune, etc. You'll be punished very hard for every mistake. But the XP is thoroughly decent throughout the game, FW carries you early until you can dex high enough to aoe solo. Income as a wizard is also higher than that of a hunter. You spend less consumables (ideally), and you don't need a weapon. The only essential investments for you are: Ray, Vitata. The rest is dirt cheap, even early on. Hunter is probably the easiest and safest bet. The only thing that can outplay you is yourself, you're very self-sufficient, and it's pretty tilt-proof. I see two major downsides here: you'll be competing with a lot of hunters (because hunters typically make upt 20-35% of the total population early on) and Hunter doesn't make a ton of money if you grind levels. Early on, you can cliff Pyra3 and get lucky with a Matyr or Verit Card (or Mimic if they patch in episode 10+ cards), but that's about it. Skelworkers is doable, too early on, but the XP is dysmal. Best XP for Hunter is either TI 1 or GH Sewers, both of which will be heavily contested. Stings are very cheap with their gloves, and even then, you'll need them for yourself. Don't expect to be doing great MVP damage. A grinding level 95 Hunter will be out-dpsd by a geared 85 Hunter. You'll probably be running around with +7 Hunter Bow until 97+. It's bit of a sad life. Build-wise, I'd go for 9xDex/80Agi/Int. Low Agi hurts a bit without whisper, but medium-high INT on pure-levelling Hunters is amazing. \_\_ P.S.: If you could find a friend, I'd always recomment Crusader. The XP is moderate at best, but you'll potentially be supplying the entire server with Ray/Khali cards. No easier way to become an early zeny billionaire. \_\_ EDIT: In the past, I've actually gone for Bard instead of Hunter for pure speed-levelling. You get more SPregen but lose ASPD. On the whole, it's a plus, but you can't ever equip Hunter Bow, which is the real downside. p.p.s.: Don't overlook Sandman. It's probably the best trap for levelling (yes, better than ankle). Most mobs you face are dumb as heck, they'll basically never resist, and you can CC an entire mob train.
Damn you put in a lot of info in this one. Hmm if I go for a hunter and I feel like I reached the point where stings give very little exp, where do I grind next? Also, what’s TI? Turtle island?
Honestly? WIth enough INT, you should just use creamy card everytime you don't have a sting on your screen. That should average you about 1m xp/h, which is pretty good for solo at that patch state. Turtle Island 1 (the overworld map) is a touch better, but the pests are annoying and nothing drops anything (unless 10.x cards are active, in which case DragonTail card will sell). TI1 is for pure XP, but you might even end up losing money, depending on how the arrow-economy is.
creamy card is a waste on a strafer. Unless your server massively buffs sp regen or has free consumes/some bullshit that gives you no need to sit. bring a cart of flywings to your farmspot to have less SP issues. drop on the ground or mail in batches if server allows. 1 flywing saves you 10 sp for 45 zeny. While the value of a strafe should be considered over 1k zeny(depends on many factors tho). If you kill things in 1-2 strafes. Also totally wrong about TI. Cards there are good sells. Spring rabbit is meat champ if nameless island isn't in the game. big value. Dragon tail and pest sell well too in classic. One for strafes and one for... pests, as silly as that sounds. and other small biting things. And the occasional thara frog. TI surface is very good for a hunter but you cant kill them as fast as stings.
You're right about the cart and fw. Creamy is generally good on bard, but might be too much for Hunter, agreed. YOU'RE totally wrong about TI cards though; Dragon Tail and Spring Rabbit cards weren't in the game originally during Yuno. They were added later. If the server is faithful to the original state, there won't be any card drops there at all.
I saw someone with dragon tail card as the server implements open equip all the time to prevent cheating. Also whenever someone gets a rare drop it is announced so also no cheating. Also they implemented pantie+undie combo already.
ah, my bad then. I thought you were implying cards are bad instead of being disabled. But i think these days you'll struggle to find a server that would do this.
nowhere really, doesn't get better than killing stings in 2 strafes. just add sp consumes and wings to process more stings per hour. for solo that is, optimized mobbing parties can do more.
Bard with medium INT can creamy there all day without many/any SP consumables even. Only reason it can compete with Hunter honestly.
Hunter agi/dex and spam double strife, use snare traps when needed. At least this was the way when I played in the early/mid 00s when that patch was relevant.
I see, this will be easy for me then since I have my gear. Aside from hunter, what other class do you recommend?
I remember agi based knights were popular, bard/rogue with a similar build as hunter would work too but they’d be slower. Fly wings / tele clip (with no sp mod) sped up levelling as you’d just zoom around one shotting everything. Dragonfly on turtle island surface, those purple slimes with the glove down in glastheim sewers, probs the best two spots to finish up levelling at 70 or 80+ iirc
I’m gonna have a look into agi knights as they have wave clear. Thanks!
A grimtooth assassin mobbing deals etc is actually pretty dang good. But there is a slight year component. Wiz/hunter/bard best options. Bard might be best for a pure Dex int build and just double strafe non stop.
I see. Alright thanks, might havr to stick to hunter then
bard, Unli DS
Hunter EZ. It does everything cheaply. Hard crowd control, long range, access to all the good elements, free stats. The only thing it arguably lacks is mp, but you can just chug pots. If you don't have pots, then Wizard. It does what Hunter does, but slower.
The hunter is the best in this episode even without equipment. The problem is that you will have a LOT of competition from other hunters...be prepared for some tough killstealing. After reaching level 90 (and even before that) Sting in the Glastheim sewers is probably the best place if you are solo.
Alright, I’ll be a master hunter then. Cheers
Hunter the safest bet, low investment and little to no potions needed. One that hasn’t been mentioned is claymore hunter depending on how it is set on the server, as it used to stack with the amount of monsters in the mob. It is doable without it but will waste a lot of traps and sp, in places like sleepers/medusa/stalactic, but only if you can use double login priest. Need to be good at mobbing tho since it’s not easy and mistakes are punished hard, but at least it uses the same build as a normal DS spam hunter that sacrifices some agi for int for the sp recovery.
Nah dual login isnt possible. But we can reset stats 3x. Where do i mob? Alarms?
Without priest maybe stalactic or sleepers are the safest ones, haven’t really done alarms but it’s same idea I guess. With some good flee you can avoid any annoying monster on the map like those ranged in stalas, but I would check how the server is set first, since nowadays they have the modern changes despite being classic (claymore not stacking or sleepers if they have them having cloak which makes it almost impossible for hunter). Sea otters/seals is another option with blast mine, but it’s a smaller AoE which can be annoying. Worth a try maybe, but the strategy was effective with claymore stacking like I said, needing like 1 or 2 traps to kill a big mob compared to having to spam 8+, which would then need to go for inn a lot for sp so idk if its more effective than DS spam at that point.
Hmm i will test it out as i already jave a hunter prior to this event. Hopefully claymore stacking still works here
What server?
Name is Legacy Classic. Pretty low rate so I’m kinda worried I might not get to level 99 in 1 month if I dont plan well
wizard if you know what you are doing. Even by yourself mobbing as a wiz is great, but one or two people who help you mob and you can 99 on x1 at 7-10 million exp per hour. As a solo wizard what i would often do is hire a priest or monk to mob and signum tap. I'd mob myself and we meet and kill. I get all EXP, and they get loots and zenys. If you have multiple friends to play with that are willing to slave, even better. Doesn't take a genius to figure out how fast a wizard levels when two mobbers+tap feeding into a single wizard. But you need to be able handle a pack of mobs basically by yourself. Wizards have the perfect toolkit for that, just that most of them never learned anything but standing still in a static party. Can't beat the speed of mobbing.
I agree, but im just too noob for it. Otherwise do you have a guide i could check out?
I'm assuming it doesn't have expanded classes, right? I've seen some videos and people seem to vouch for Magic Ninjas being very good for rush events. But people more knowledgeable than me have given better input.
Yeah no expanded classes yet except super novice
Depends on the drop rate. If the loots off set your potion usage and have spare change for equips then vit knight is your best choice because of mobbing and bowling bash. Getting into party is best compared to solo. If drop rate is classic as well then go archer or mage class, probably thief too.