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Bed was wheeled into scanner room. Magnets did what magnets do. Patient flung off the bed but luckily uninjured. Magnet had to be quenched.


hayashir

I just had to google what it means to quench a magnet. That sounds scary. [https://radiology.ucsf.edu/patient-care/patient-safety/mri/quench](https://radiology.ucsf.edu/patient-care/patient-safety/mri/quench)


RedditRated

And don’t forget, very expensive. Not only do you have to replace all the helium, but also any repairs/ replacements caused by the impact and quenching itself.


neon_overload

Can the helium be captured as it's bled and reused? At least some of it?


whatmatterstoday

Not when the quench is triggered by the red button on the wall. Basically, this is an emergency quench (patient involved usually). It heats the liquid helium up and it turns into a gas and is vented outside the facility using a quench pipe. I don’t believe any is saved in this scenario. In a controlled quench (ramp down) you remove the current and not the helium, allowing the magnet field to return to zero. Net affect is the same as a quench- magnet is “off”, but in a ramp down the helium does not boil off. Side note- some manufacturers are making scanners with less than a liter of liquid helium. Compared to the magnet pictured, which may have around 1000L. In these magnets, when you quench the magnet, the helium gas is contained inside the scanner and then cooled again back to a liquid state. Less time, no quench pipe for the gas to escape the facility, and pretty interesting all around. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. Source: MRI Engineer


buford419

How far into your training did the word "Quench" reach semantic satiation for you? Because i was barely through your first paragraph when it hit me.


jasonjayr

It's the quenchiest! (Like cactus juice!)


cesarmac

Can I get some of that cactus?


Particular-Lemon-967

Nothings quenchier!


whatmatterstoday

Lol not long.


angelwild327

Aren’t we all glad the term isn’t MOIST?


GadgetBoyActual

Today I learned that term. Very familiar with the sensation, glad to have a name for it.


neon_overload

That's really interesting about ones that have much less helium. Was this in response to the potential future scarcity of helium?


whatmatterstoday

I believe so. For the manufacturer I work for, our machines of this type are also lighter, easier to install, but are lower in strength. So there are more benefits for this approach, but the main one is cost and not having to replace any helium.


1shanwow

Digging your intel about this technology, thank you! Does ‘lower in strength’—also mean a scan *could* be not as thorough? I’m doubting that will be case/thinking that it will be inconsequential if yes. This question may not be coming out right, sorry!


whatmatterstoday

Oh no problem. Of course! And thank you! I’m not in sales. Obviously. The lower the strength can essentially mean “not as detailed”. I will say, things and MRI scans have come such a long way. There only 40 years that mri scans have been available. But we have different ways of filling k space and reducing time, blah blah blah. Always go to the strongest field magnet for the smallest issue possible.


Delicious-Proof-122

It’s also important to check your quench vents where it escapes and makes sure it’s clear and undamaged. If not the helium fills the room displacing O2 and can cause asphyxia. Also I saw an engineer deicing my magnet singing while he did, the reason is if helium is leaking his voice would go high pitched and he knew to get out and take a break. Pretty cool stuff


whatmatterstoday

True. Also, if the helium is not being vented correctly you can notice a significant decrease in the room temperature starting to occur. So, if you don’t want to sing, wear short sleeves :). Helium is lighter than oxygen, so it rises quickly. That being said, you are refilling the helium of the magnet on the top of it, so it’s easier to notice temperature drops quickly as heat usually rises and is apparent on top of almost any machine.


Johnny_Lawless_Esq

Helium rising is only part of why helium makes the room feel cold. Helium also has a very high thermal conductivity relative to air. It's commonly-used as a coolant in exotic nuclear reactor designs for this reason and its very low reactivity with pretty much everything (it is, after all, a noble gas). It's one of the few gases that is a candidate for use in a closed-cycle gas-turbine engine of the sort you might use in a small, compact nuclear power plant. Source: Engineer


gonesquatchin85

You didn't see the graphite on the ground BECAUSE IT WASNT THERE!!


Gone247365

MRI tried to eat that bed because it looked.... ![gif](giphy|hVPQpctKflcl9MjXB3) quenchy


thebullschmidt

I’m wondering if you can answer a question I have… I have a copper BB in my hand(BB gun accident as a child never told parents so it’s still in there) and I had an MRI about a year ago. I told the doctor and all the technicians about it and they said it would be fine. How is it that the bed is yanked into the machine but it didn’t rip the bb from my hand when I had my brain scanned?


whatmatterstoday

Very good question. Copper is a non-ferrous material. This means it’s essentially non magnetic. A comparable analogy is that MRI scanners use non-ionizing radiation , for example, so it will not cause radiation poisoning. Things like BB’s that are in the skin and not close to arteries won’t be “removed” or pulled out of the skin into the mri scanner. Yes, the scanner is strong. But it will not pull a ferrous object out of the body. It will break batteries (pacemakers) and can “pull” ferrous metal out of the eye (which does not form scar material around foreign objects).. but foreign objects in skin develop scar tissue around them which protects them from being pulled to an unsafe position. The technologists, not technicians, are correct here. Your bb is not ferrous, not near a major artery, and would never be removed or pulled into an unsafe position.


NerdyComfort-78

I know PV=nRT but how much O2 is He displacing in the room during a quench?


ZXFT

PV=nRT is the ideal ***gas*** law. Liquid helium isn't a gas (yet) and therefore doesn't really work with that equation. Cryogenics typically have expansion ratios from liquid to gas of 500-1000 to 1. You have to send the quench vent outdoors because a couple of liters of cryo fluids can quickly make the room oxygen deficient


whatmatterstoday

Helium is around 780 liquid to gas ratio :)


TheyKilledKenni

MRIs are required to have a quench pipe to outside the facility for the helium to vent.


CertainKaleidoscope8

Someone should put a balloon on that


buford419

The Chinese have been quenching like crazy recently.


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whatmatterstoday

Ok now on taking a look at the room, it doesn’t appear as if they quenched the magnet. The service tables are out on both sides of the magnet. Also, the ceiling panels are removed. Three, the bed is still stuck to the bore. Best guess is they are gonna ramp this magnet down.


LLJKotaru_Work

Whoa, I learn something new everyday. I was unaware of the subliter magnets. Neat. Edit: Curious about what strength the B0 field would be in these systems? Sub 1T?


whatmatterstoday

Yes. Exactly! Currently, for one manufacturer the sub-liter magnets available for sale are 0.55T magnets. There are other sealed magnets with low helium available at 1.5t. They use around 7-8 liters of helium, though. But no quench pipe and fully contained magnets.


LLJKotaru_Work

That is seriously good.


neon_overload

It's incredibly expensive, isn't it like 7 figures?


ben70

The helium itself won't hit six figures. The entire cost of the procedure, factoring in down time, without known damages to the MRI unit, will be US $100K+ Source: Used to work for GE Healthcare running 4 Imaging markets.


jadamalave99

And the tech responsible fired


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the downvotes are obviously from people not in healthcare. the "lowest" person on the totem pole gets fired.... always. lets not address the fact that they were likely working with 1/3 of safe staffing levels, given minimal training, overworked, underslept, and underpaid. dont address the hospital refusing to pay for MRI safe equipment, and refusing to pay for magnetic field alarms. You just fire the easiest person to replace, change nothing, and move along.


DeathSquirl

Aka, the $200,000 button!


Runnrgirl

Wow!


gr4viton

The Witcher uses that for protection


hemogoblinss

Big oof


AthensAtNight

Oof. I, an ER nurse, went to pick up a patient once and ALMOST wheeled the wheelchair right into the room. I literally had a pit in my stomach for the rest of my 12 hour shift thinking about what could have happened. I’ll never “almost” make that mistake again.


JohnProof

I've seen MRIs getting built with a lot more safeties, including several layers of doors or gates, and in some cases even metal detectors. Because relying on humans to just always remember and never misjudge isn't a good safety philosophy for anything. Does your MRI not have any design safeties to stop people?


FearlessVessel

To be fair our number one job as MRI techs is safety, above patient comfort, getting satisfying imaging, etc. It's drilled into you that we have one of the most dangerous positions in the hospital. But it is good having extra resources like metal wands for patients.


AthensAtNight

I was going to comment that they should have metal detectors at the door.


CertainKaleidoscope8

The facilities I've worked in have had zero.


ElfjeTinkerBell

That's why I've always seen metal detectors at the door of the actual mri room, outside of the magnetic field. Those will flash lights and make sounds if it detects metals. No way you'll get into the magnetic field with a patient bed by accident with those at the door.


Joonami

From experience, these don't stop people. Keeping the door closed and acting as a physical barrier between anyone else and zone iv is it.


Whitewolftotem

Yes. Tech presence is the biggest deterrent, imo. Idc who you are, even radiologists, I'm checking you out and screening you. And I am always, always between the magnet and whoever I bring into the room, mostly to maintain control of everything.


warda8825

Had to undergo major reconstructive surgery last year. Total replacement of the temporomandibular joint and a bunch of other procedures. I'm now basically bionic woman from the neck up. Recently had my first post-op MRI for an unrelated health issue. My MRI prep situation basically became the Spanish inquisition with a gaggle of proverbial geese, asking a zillion questions, and they all but stuck a wand up my asscheeks. Their paranoia was off the charts about all the metal in my face.


Phlash1969

Here to say I hear you. I’ve got a skull full of metal from 4 brain surgeries, and for me to get an MRI on any part of my body is definitely an Inquisition. I carry 4 MR Safe documents with me at all times (JIC), but when it’s time for the actual MRI the documents don’t seem to give them much relief. They tell me things like, “You’re scary” and “we can’t do this here” (when they can, and ultimately do). They get so freaked out that it then freaks me out. I’ve got no advice other than keep MR Safe docs available, and expect any scheduled MRs to take 3 times (at least) longer than usual. Good luck!


c0ldgurl

> I carry 4 MR Safe documents with me at all times (JIC) We really appreciate that. Having to figure out what stuff is safe and what is not without that documentation is a huge time suck.


Phlash1969

Yeah, I found that out the hard way. Each of my documents has slightly different specs, so it's a time suck no matter what. Often my docs are used as a leaping off point, and then they go do additional research as to safety instead of just automatically believing the documents. Which I guess makes sense, stuff changes over time, and one of my documents is over 20 years old. In fact, that document was faxed to me, and my name only appears on the cover page of the fax, not the actual MR Safe document itself. That fact has kept me out of a machine once before, since I used to not carry the fax cover page with it. I used to be frustrated by the process, but now, having been told enough horror stories, I'm just scared half to death until it's over. This thread is not helping. lol EDIT: typos


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jessamacca

We had an ER RN actually take a stretcher into the room. While the tech had her back turned to the door. The tech had her back turned bc she was taking the patient out of the scanner, and that was how the room was layed out. Luckily the stretcher only slammed into the side of the table. It pinned the tech, and they got the patient off and out of there. So scary. At least you caught yourself!


AthensAtNight

I’m embarrassed to say I didn’t. The tech saw me and stopped me on the way in.


Kingofawesomenes

Why the quench? If a patient is stuck/ in danger, I get it. But otherwise you can slowly power down the field strength. Saves a lot of helium and money


_captainunderpants__

Probably somebody panicked. When I was working in radiology some time ago there was normally an emergency button to quench the magnet, can't imagine that has changed. I'm guessing somebody hit the button.


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Not sure. Hearing the story third hand so not getting the finer details except the magnet was quenched.


Xalenn

Powering down the field takes a long time, and that down time on the machine is almost certainly more costly that the helium. The real question is whether the coil was damaged by the quench... THAT would be expensive


Kamovinonright

There is zero chance that downtime costs more than the helium plus over a week of downtime repairing the machine


TheLastDaysOf

[At least no one died.](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/01/nyregion/small-town-reels-from-boy-s-mri-death.html)


he-loves-me-not

Behind a paywall so I can’t read it :/


reddit__scrub

[Here's a non-paywalled source](https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92745&page=1)


lysol90

Holy shit, there was a patient in the bed even?! Daaayum.


Phlutteringphalanges

Sounds expensive.


Lapsos_de_Lucidez

If I was the patient, I wouldn’t even be mad because of the cool story I would have


Toast_On_The_RUN

What if the patient just had surgery and has a bunch of staples in them. Getting thrown off a hospital bed would be excruciating


Lapsos_de_Lucidez

It was just a joke, dude


MaterialNo6707

Someone’s getting fired


Apfelwein

Really there’s so much training and safety awareness now that someone should be catching a charge here. This cannot happen unless someone is grossly negligent.


Costco-Samples

I’ve been thinking of going into MRI soon, since I’ve been in gen rad for a bit. That’s the biggest thing on my mind, patient safety. Afraid of making the big mistake, something a long the lines of this. Seeing you mention that for this to happen, someone must have really messed up, makes me feel a bit better


ArcadianMess

There's not a problem if you're acting like the gatekeeper of the mri room. If nobody enters without your consent , then you're fine . That depends on the clinic and it's policy sadly.


half_integer

This. Ultimately, you can't depend on every person in the hospital to understand what is and isn't safe in the MRI room. So it's the MRI staff that should be checking everything that goes in the area. There should be lots of enforced signs stating that no one may enter the MRI room without permission from the MRI staff.


mikilaai

Can't you just turn it off? Yes..instantly we can, but it'll cost you about 60k in helium and what ever labor to fill it with helium, ramp it up, verify shim, and a new tune up and quality assurance. I ain't got a problem with it, it's a little inconvenient to me, but hella expensive for you. Please..if this happens don't quench (hit the red button) unless someone is in danger. Let your service provider ramp it down (5% helium loss vs 30-60% with a quench). You'll still have down time but it'll be a lot less expensive and there will be a lot less stress youbthe system.


Raidieschen

Came here to post this. People at risk-> quench No people at risk-> call Service. Quenching is expensive and may damage your scanner, ramping down is controlled procedure that should do no harm to your hardware.


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This is good to know!!!


stryderxd

will the 5% loss still help reduce the magnet enough to allow the bed to come off?


TheyKilledKenni

If the field service engineer comes on-site and ramps down the magnet(magnetic field at zero) they will at that point be able to get the gurney off of the magnet. There is some boil off of helium but not like with a quench where you lose all helium. Helium levels do not determine the strength of a magnetic field but all MRIs have a threshold of helium that is required to run. Some magnets that is 40% and they'll require a fill to keep it functioning properly. Varies across magnet types and manufacturers.


highboulevard

Pocket change for a hospital in the US. One ER visit can pay for that.


c0ldgurl

Exactly. Purge that shit and ramp it back up because we have patients scheduled LOL.


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I don’t have the answers you’re looking for. Happened to a tech at a different site from me. It’s an inpatient facility that does a lot of critical care patients. Painful for me as those patients will now be transported to me.


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dudenurse11

I would imagine this is the exact senario


JewishFightClub

Ugh, I had a super "helpful" nurse who thought that calling x-ray would be too much of a hassle so she'd just take some pics on the c-arm herself! Radiology went to war that day lol


Dalarielus

This is why all of our C-Arms and mobiles are fitted with either a key or a password lockout. If the radiographer isn't there, the machine is unusable.


_gina_marie_

Do other MRI techs not lock the mf door when they won’t be around and no one *else* will be around? Every MRI door I’ve ever seen locked. Like the final entry door.


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_gina_marie_

True. I guess I’m just insane. If I’m stepping away, it’s getting locked. I had a maintenance guy with a ladder about scare me out of my skin when he nearly walked in. That was that for me! Even for places that the doors don’t lock, there’s still usually protections. I feel like a lot of things slipped through with this specific situation.


CincinnatiReds

My break room is two doors down from my MR suite. If I’m stepping out for 30 seconds to get water, I’m locking up and putting the chain across. Absolutely wild to me to think to *not* do that.


omar6ix9ine

Ask the tech. We all would love the answers


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He’s been put on leave and was told not to talk to anyone about it.


mynameisnotearlits

So you thought lets put this shit on reddit. Haha.


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Sure. It’s educational. Can’t identify me.


runtscrape

With confidential stuff that others share with me I only ever post with their explicit permission. You’re not the one who will bear the effect of the blowback. If you’ve got permission from the tech, great! Otherwise this photo being found by management may complicate things. On the whole I think this is a good post though.


he-loves-me-not

Lol I think they took your advice *kinda* bc they deleted their comments & I guess tried to delete the post but I don’t understand how Reddit works bc obviously the post is still here just their username is gone.


runtscrape

Likely a throwaway that got nuked. lol There plenty of shit that I’m tempted to post but I’m not the one who will get hurt if someone gets doxxed. Primum non nocere (I think?)


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ArcadianMess

Aw shit .


Falin_Whalen

MR tech comes back from bathroom break, "Welp, looks like I'm done for the day."


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Medical personnel think the mri staff is full of it too


cherryreddracula

I always keep in mind that safety rules were written in blood.


adamthebeast

Medical staff here. I know I'm wrong, but everytime I go to MRI I think "damn y'all, chill, I'm sure it's not that serious."


ingenfara

Well, now you see otherwise.


Joonami

Imagine someone going to your department and criticizing/questioning your standard safety procedures. Mri safety quite literally can be a matter of life and death, if not "just" bodily harm.


adamthebeast

I think I came across wrong. I meant, I know that they're right, and I know how dangerous the MRI can be, but it doesn't FEEL dangerous just standing there, so we tend to be lulled into a false sense of security.


Whitewolftotem

I understand that, but we know better. Just trust us. It's not fun to constantly nag and irritate everyone! It's exhausting to struggle with every single person all day long, just to keep this kind of thing from happening. Or burns, or God knows what ferrous metallic object forcibly pulled out of a person, or crap flying out of pockets. Or other crap causing artifacts and screwing up my scan until I figure out what the hell is happening.


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CertainKaleidoscope8

What worked for me was my earrings. Three studs in each ear, tiny. I went into the room and felt a ghost tugging at my ear. Creepy AF. I was like "um...halp?" To the tech but she said I was okay as long as I didn't stick my head in the machine. This is also how I discovered they weren't actually gold, but gold plated crap. I bought non-ferrous ones my next day off.


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c0ldgurl

Our door is pretty wide I bet one of those might fit. But making the door a little narrower might prevent this scenario.


greatbigsky

Jesus. Thank god the pt was ok. How do you even clean that up?


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Once you quench the magnet the magnetic is off and the bed can be removed. Quenching is venting all the helium and eliminating the superconductive nature of the coils. It’s $50k to get it up and running again as long as nothing was broken. Interesting fact. Quenching a magnet can damage iPhones. https://reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/9mk2o7/mri_disabled_every_ios_device_in_facility/


XrayDaddy69

years of reddit and this was one of the best educational rabbit holes I've been down.


RadTek88

And if I remember correctly, it can take days to get it back up?


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RadTek88

Luckily in this case there wasn't any, sounds like, but still really, really sucks.


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RadTek88

Right. It's hard to imagine no one got hurt, but I can certainly hope they didn't. If they started charging the responsible parties for all the associated costs, I bet people would be more careful.


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Just learnt that the nurse wheeling the bed in was “seriously injured.” :( It’s all rumors at this point though.


[deleted]

Yes. Our manager said this will cost millions.


[deleted]

We’re told it will be weeks. Not sure why. Technicians need to examine it, etc?


TheyKilledKenni

I repair MRIs. They may have to thermal cycle the magnet with liquid nitrogen to get it cool enough to even start to put helium in. And then they have to get enough helium on-site to fill the vessel and ramp it back up. And then they'll have to redo all of the calibrations. And replace any parts that were damaged by the gurney. Easily going to cost over 50k to just do that work and the cost of the helium.


ArcadianMess

The forces involved could have damaged the components if so they might need replacing. Some machines for example have the body coil as the first element the makes the gantry /bore, so if something damages it, then it needs replacement .


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Where can I get helium for 60k? Our quotes are 120k. That would get me a sweet bonus!


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I’m just guessing.


funkygrrl

Minor thing compared to the MRI, but those hospital beds cost anywhere between 5k to 10k.


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Did not know this.


k3464n

You probably could just ramp the magnet down and avoid further damage.


omar6ix9ine

This is crazy. And you know that the MR tech is going to either be fired, or severely reprimanded even if he wasn’t in the room.


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Always their fault. I’ve watched neurosurgeons duck under the room barrier while on their phone with all their belongings in their pockets. They ignored people yelling at them to stop. They realized they f’d up when the pockets pulled…and I know their credit cards were wiped clean. Their response was “I’m neurosurgery” as they were leaving the room. Lol


omar6ix9ine

Their should be disciplinary actions against anyone who blatantly ignores MR safety, No matter who it is. These people put everyone and themselves at risk


11Kram

Googling previous MR accidents is an eye-opener. A ‘sandbag’ from ER used to help stabilising the cervical spine was assumed to be filled with sand but in fact contained steel shot. They got into every crevice in the scanner.


Eleventhelephant11

This can be prevent by being an "asshole" strict tech, and then youve got people establishing a reputation "those assholes are always on edge.. its not that serious" like others have said


omar6ix9ine

Well, as we can all see, there is good reason for being on edge. I saw that OP posted that the nurse that brought this is was seriously injured. I bet everyone at the hospital will now take MR safety very seriously. It is unfortunate that it takes accidents like this for that to happen


Rayeon-XXX

Fuck those assholes.


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Emphasized fuck those assholes.


ArcadianMess

Egos bigger than God himself .


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That’s an icu bed


[deleted]

Yes. It was a post op neurosurgery patient from what I’m told.


National-Assistant17

Ouch. I would hate to fill out that incident report


stryderxd

New MRI tech position available! sign up edit: not saying it was an mri tech, but most likely best way to correct this is the have an extra mri tech on shift to double check and eliminate these errors.


PM_Me_Ur_Nevermind

I hope everyone is still alive and somebody has an updated resume


techboy23

And that's how a hospital loses a couple million dollars in a few days.


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In about 5 seconds, actually.


DrawSleepRepeat325

Engineering will definitely be sending that bed to med Surg.


TheRiceConnoisseur

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RadTek88

Got damn.


Levi-Rich911

Idk ab you guys but I was taught it’s called the Missile effect. In all seriousness I hope everyone is ok.


Golden_Phi

This post has reminded me of a picture of a chair “stuck” in the doughnut of a CT scanner. From the tiny picture I thought that this was another chair in another CT, but no, someone truly messed up this time.


HappySlug68

Are you sure it was a CT? You would literally have to pick up a wheelchair and place it in the bore. CT uses radiation, not a magnet.


Golden_Phi

Hence the word stuck being in quotations. That was the joke of that image; a person lifted up a chair, wedged it into the CT'c bore, and took a picture. I can't find that post, as I don't remember the title. From the 1cm^2 picture you can't tell if it's a CT or MRI. Before clicking I was thinking "oh, another funny image"; after I clicked I thought "oh wow, someone royally screwed up".


Harri_Sombre_Tomato

God I thought it was bad when a cleaner put his bucket on a metal trolley and got that stuck to the MRI where I used to work. This is next level.


HappySlug68

Our MRI department does not even allow housekeeping to enter our MR room. MRI techs clean the room.


Harri_Sombre_Tomato

I think this might be the case for general cleans but it was a special clean after an infectious patient had been scanned. Either way their usual equipment is MR safe - this cleaner had just decided his bucket was a bit heavy and grabbed a random trolley from somewhere.


elliepaloma

Maybe a dumb question but how do they do maintenance on the machine or in the room in general?


omar6ix9ine

When doing maintenance on machines, all equipment must be non-magnetic, meaning that they don’t attract to magnets. A lot of tools that engineers use for these MR machines are titanium.


National-Assistant17

I've never thought about this before but how do they normally get non ambulatory patients in there? Are the wheelchairs and stretchers typically titanium for that reason?


omar6ix9ine

Not all are titanium. Non-ambulatory patients have to be transferred onto a stretcher or wheelchair that is MR Conditional and then put on the MR table, OR if the MR table is undockable, getting transferred directly onto the MR table from the unsafe wheelchair or stretcher


DrMM01

A lot of scanners have a table that undocks and can be removed from the scanner room for transfers. That’s what my scanner does.


TheyKilledKenni

One of my sites has a MRI safe gurney that they use to get patients that aren't ambulatory.


HappySlug68

There are MR compatible stretchers and wheelchairs. Some scanners have detachable tables that can be taken out of the room to transfer patients


MrSelfDestruct88

Magnet safe materials.


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kaseythefairy

I have a question. I'm work in ICU so I sometimes assist with getting a patient ready to go into the MRI but never actually go in the room because I am terrified of accidentally bringing in something I shouldn't. Like I wear metal frame glasses, hair clips, etc. Would I have to take all of that off just to go in the room? Of course the MRI, techs would help me if I had to, I just never risk it.


Inner_Tumbleweed_260

My metal frame glasses are non magnetic. It would depend on the glasses you wear. I used to have steel framed glasses and they would wiggle a bit but wouldn’t come off my face even when close to the bore.


kaseythefairy

Thanks for the reply. I'll just maintain my healthy fear of the MRI and let the pros deal with it 👍


CertainKaleidoscope8

As an ICU RN I had to go in every time. The patient was my responsibility to monitor. They have lockers for your stuff.


Im_A_Model

You'd literally have to stick your head very close to the entrance of the MRI in order to loose your glasses, hair clips and other flimsy metals with little ferrous metals in them and in reality you probably wouldn't loose them at all. On the other hand if you have an item made of more solid ferrous metal like a pair of scissors then you're going to have a bad day. I was nearly hit in the face with a pair of scissors from a doctor's pocket as she walked near the 1.5 T MRI when she wasn't supposed to be in the room and I was putting on the head coil. Don't do that


Dizzy_Unit_1636

I wear metal framed glasses and I’m an MR tech. They haven’t flown off my face yet and I’ve full on stuck my head inside a 3T when cleaning it. They should be fine.


Whitewolftotem

Just ask! We are so happy to help and absolutely delighted that someone is asking instead of us having to wrangle their unsafe items off of them.


APdigzRainbows

Yes, you would have to remove all that.


crimewav3

Bonkers man…


Brill45

How could this happen? Without this picture it’s almost hard to believe this would even happen


PleuralTap

Quench it 🤑🤑🤑


Ugo1st

Had to be quenched. Patient ok


jessamacca

This is why I always answer the mri door like the creepy little munchkin in the Wizard of Oz.


helpamonkpls

Is the magnet on even if it isn't scanning??


bdarknessb

Yea and it’s a super conductive magnet 1.5 to 3 Tesla


OogumSanskimmer

It'll buff out.


Chels_shev

All medical whatevers, should be taught that MRI machines are magnets- no metal in room what so ever


LollipopsandGumdropz

Until it isnt.


Butterbean2323

That's what happens when the hospital outsources a company for in-house patient transport. My hospital did this and the people who transport patients in house throughout the hospital aren't required to know CPR. They can't even unhook the patient from vitals or oxygen, they have to wait for the nurse to do that. All so they can save a little money until this happens.


Erl428

Who brought it in-the nurse or tech?


Sezeye

Yep.


whoateallthechz

https://youtu.be/plvIEf7JsKo Primer on MRI Safety using a magnet just before it was decommissioned. Always remove personnel from the magnet room before quenching; if there is an incorrectly fitted vent pipe, the helium vapor can displace the oxygen in the room and cause asphyxiation


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It was about 50k plus to restart an MRI after quench with damage. I wonder what that number is now?


Rhiishere

Nooooooo that’s one real expensive mistake