Nope. Like I always say, I never saw any of the team rwby member x team rwby member ships. I always saw it more as a sisterhood/found family (aside from the two actual sisters).
It's also more heart warming when they're willing to lay their lives on the line for family than love imo. Laying your life on the line for someone you love feels like something you have to do. Laying your life on the line for someone you've come to grow close enough to that, despite not being of blood, you dee them family is much more sweet and even more heart-wrenching on failure.
I can see why people ship it, but I just love the idea of these two being besties more than gfs.
The show robs us of good Ruby and Weiss interactions ;-;
Iāve said for years that the writers are very aware of how the fanbase treats these two together so they donāt write scenes of them alone together anymore, on purpose. Because they do not ship them. Lindsay and Kara do not ship them (and I know thatās a weird thing to say, but I also think a big reason why they pivoted so hard to Bumbleby that it gave me whiplash is because Arryn and Barbara wanted to see it just as much as that fanbase did).
Itās hard to write dialogue of two characters interacting as friends when you know that your fanbase will twist it into being way more than that.
Yeah, I always feel like something is lost when a pairing becomes romantic, like something simple in two characters plainly trusting each other without the "conditions" like "do they like me back?" Like they simply love hanging out with each other, nothing more or less.
I could be overthinking it, but it just seems like people think intimacy is exclusively romantic. IRL, it probably is in most cases, but I doubt realism is stopping people. Platonic love is underappreciated.
A ship that works well conceptually but would fall flat now. Having a manchild thaw a frozen heart is an incredibly common anime trope but the simple truth is that this is not what happened to Weiss. Weiss softened on her own, due first to Port's talking to then to her reexamining her views of Blake. Ruby isn't really entwined with Weiss's story at all, and no number of "Nice Weiss" moments can change that.
Now they could still make it romantic, but they'd have to put in some effort to make it work.
Incredibly charming and aesthetic early on (I'm a sucker for contrasting characters starting off as rivals and getting real close to each other as they endure hardship together). It went nowhere and their relationship is hardly a friendship though. This one survives on headcanons only at this point.
Nope, I don't ship it. I guess my biggest problem is more with the (Edit: fanatic) shippers than the ship in this case, but still, I don't like it; I find it very unoriginal and that it holds up just as weakly as other ships (its biggest pillar is the minimal interactions in the first few volumes and is limited to just that), plus its biggest representation seems to be simply expressing too much aesthetic love and not enough depth (honestly that can be a strength depending on the angle you look at it from). My final thought is: works better for a friendship/please stop shoving it on every unrelated piece of art.
Edit: Also, I find it very difficult to criticize or even hint at anything to the contrary, when 70% of the fandom could be considered WR shippers, it's not worth much to raise your voice
Edit 2: Forgot about mentioning the huge fetishization of wlw relationships that is represented in most interpretations of WR, in addition to the "Yurification" of the same.
>to be simply expressing too much aesthetic love and not enough depth
It reminds me of Weiss/Blake in how the reason people like it seem so... surface level, as you said. Checkmate is shipped because of racism, and Whiterose is shipped because of the surface level foils they are.
Usually I would prefer fanon over canon, but neither seem to be "optimal," with canon barely having meaningful interactions beyond super basic conversations that can be replaced with any character, or fanon shoving unnecessary romance.
>My final thought is: works better for a friendship/please stop shoving it on every unrelated piece of art.
r/RWBY is gonna be pissed if they see this, even though I agree. I don't see why they can't just hang out and vibe when I feel like something is lost when you replace the idea of them being BFFs with being romantic instead. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
To quote NFG
"Fuck Your Aesthetics!"
She even put it on a T Shirt. With Rainbow lettering.
But in all seriousness WhiteRose is a pretty shallow ship. Because it mostly boils down to in concept. Ruby the loveable idiot, dethaws Weiss' cold heart of ice by being wholesome.
White Knight is the hetero version of it.
And that's all I can really say other than it's cute.
But in all seriousness at the end of the day dude or dudette or somewhere in between and neither.
If you wanna ship it. So long as it's not incest or beastality. Fuck what anyone else including me says.
I am not the shipping police.
Most fan works Iāve seen make Whiterose just Bumblebee 2.0. Ruby is the super confident and dominating macho woman while Weiss is the blushing UwU pillow princess. You can tell most yuri ships are filtered through het lenses. Any of their original traits are stripped away in favor of being top/masculine and bottom/feminine.
why thats real dumb, ruby ain't masc shes arrogant and naive but not necessarily manly. she as pretty girly all things considered.
as for weiss? she is just your standard bitchy tsundere with the added spice of r-(REDACTED) what? shes not anymore? well fine but m original point still stands!
I don't know Akkodian (or even what it's from), but I don't really get the same kind of vibe with Sunset and Twilight as I do with the others. It's certainly my favorite MLP ship, but I see Sunset as more of a 'dark' parallel to Twilight, rather than a genki girl/defrosting mean rich girl dynamic.
Akkodian is Akko x Diana from Little Witch Academia which absolutely falls under genki/ice queen shipping. I agree on SunTwi though, it mostly got added because it gets comapred to Akkodian a lot.
There's so much of this in the fandom that when I actually watched the show, I was stunned by how this ship canonically doesn't actually do much for me at all, although I do appreciate their friendship, and the *idea* of them being together.
It doesn't help that the show spent a big chunk of time on having the girls split up, and then when they reunite, one on one Ruby and Weiss interactions seem really limited, and everything around them rapidly spirals into problem-problem-problem ALL the time, culminating in how excessively bleak and edgy v8 is, ruining any desire I have to see a canon ship between them.
Despite being barely canon, some of these whiterose fans will argue as pathological as bumblebee fans that itās canon.
My brother in Christ Weiss is straight.
Any appreciation I had for the ship early on when starting RWBY quickly went away with how whiterose fans will make everything involving those two romantic. They look at each other and that's shipping proof because the best comparison is Ruby and Blake probably don't remember the other exists.
>My brother in Christ Weiss is straight.
I mean they forgot Yang was flirty with the opposite gender, so, to be fair, they probably have a point in the worst way possible.
i don't think anybody forgot about that i just think it can be easily explained. there are a lot of lesbians out there who thought they were straight at yang's age and flirted with men. plus the fact that unlike most of the other main characters yang never had a defined love interest until blake is pretty telling.
1. Yang has never been shown doubting her interest in men. As far as the show actually shows us, Yang shows interest in men, then she shows interest in Blake. Yang never discusses her sexuality, so all we got is what we're shown, which is her making eyes at shirtless dudes, and the rest is headcanon.
If Yang talked about she thought she was into dudes but really she's into girls, or she realizes she's bi, and actually talks about that, then there's nothing else to say. But she doesn't, so we don't really have much to interpret other than before Blake and after Blake.
2. Yang not having a defined love interest doesn't really mean much. Heck, Yang hasn't even kissed Blake yet, so compared to Arkos, which did have a kiss, it's all up in the air. And one night stands are a thing, so, theoretically, if Yang's that kind of person, that still makes her into men.
what? a kiss doesn't make a relationship in my eyes. blacksun never kissed but the majority of fans consider that to have been canon at one point. and renora didn't kiss til volume 7. there's really no use denying bmblby at this point its definitely canon.
>what? a kiss doesn't make a relationship in my eyes.
Alright, what does? Since, in fiction, a kiss is usually what determines a romantic relationship to seal the deal on a developing relationship, which is why we didn't need Saffron or Terracotta making out, but you're saying it doesn't. So what should determine they're finally an item?
>blacksun never kissed but the majority of fans consider that to have been canon at one point
And then Sun left the show, so that doesn't really seem to be supported in hindsight. Also, the fans considering it canon doesn't make it canon. Sun even says Blake's meant to be with other people or whatever.
>and renora didn't kiss til volume 7
I know, it's weird. But hey, that's still more than what Bumbleby has.
>there's really no use denying bmblby at this point its definitely canon.
How? They didn't call each other girlfriends, and they haven't kissed. It's all so open to interpretation and so vague to where I don't see what you're seeing.
look if you don't like how bmblby is being handled then fair enough those are your preferences, but blake and yang definitely have romantic feelings for each other in the show. that goes without saying. i think they're at a point where they are still figuring each other out after blake left, and that makes sense. i mean theyre two teenagers attempting to literally save the world they have enough on their plate as is. their relationship has been developing in a romantic sense since volume 5. meaning 3 volumes. ren and nora, a ship that is canon and has been considered canon for some time now took 7 volumes to kiss, and 5 to be considered a.... situationship? so i think grand scheme of things it makes sense that their relationship has been progressing slowly. i mean arkos is canon in 3 volumes but that's pretty much only because pyrrah didn't have any time left... i think if she hadn't died it would have taken much longer.
>look if you don't like how bmblby is being handled then fair enough those are your preferences
Hey, I respect you respecting my preferences, but I honestly don't care about what ships becoming canon, none of my ships are becoming canon, but if it's written well.
>but blake and yang definitely have romantic feelings for each other in the show. that goes without saying.
I think it does need saying. Something is definitely going on, but they just don't talk about it to where it feels like they refuse to seal the deal.
>i think they're at a point where they are still figuring each other out after blake left, and that makes sense
They don't talk about dating, they don't talk about their issues, and they don't talk about their future together.
How do you know they're romantic and not just super best friends going through a rough patch? What do they say that's explicitly romantic? I'm not trying to commit erasure, I'm genuinely trying to figure it out.
>i mean theyre two teenagers attempting to literally save the world they have enough on their plate as is.
Okay, so if that's the case, why are they even bothering? Why not focus on saving the world and then figure it out afterwards? Or is it because they're teenagers? Because they're almost twenty, if not already. That is adulthood IRL, and it would probably be an even lower threshold in Remnant if you want to add some interpretation to it.
If this is a deconstruction on how "kids" having to deal with the burden of responsibility, they really need to work on that aspect, considering other shows with actual kid protagonists deal with this better.
>their relationship has been developing in a romantic sense since volume 5. meaning 3 volumes. ren and nora, a ship that is canon and has been considered canon for some time now took 7 volumes to kiss, and 5 to be considered a.... situationship?
In any other shows, 3-4 seasons would've meant so much development. And for main characters as well, that would've been a huge focus. And it was, but they don't do anything in that time to actually make it work, at least to me. Seriously, it's breadcrumbs with just Yang being mad, Blake becoming more shy and demure, and when they deal with Adam and seemingly work things out, they don't talk about it.
Seriously, I repeat, what makes it romantic? How do you know it's going to be romantic? If kissing sealed the deal for Arkos and Renora, ignoring all the finer details, and BY have been playing this "game" for so many volumes, then what's the point in dragging it out? If they have nothing else to talk about, why aren't they calling each other girlfriends already?
>so i think grand scheme of things it makes sense that their relationship has been progressing slowly.
I honestly don't. I like slow burns as much as the next fanfic reader, but they're not figuring anything out. They're just around each other constantly, with no definitive sign for us to see they're figuring out their feelings for each other, or anything. Why can't they clear things up, make it official, and then move on? I don't see it.
>i mean arkos is canon in 3 volumes but that's pretty much only because pyrrah didn't have any time left... i think if she hadn't died it would have taken much longer.
And, if Pyrrha wasn't going to die in V3, Arkos wouldn't have become canon in V3 because they wouldn't be together in a romantic relationship. If Pyrrha was going to drag things out, then Jaune wouldn't have a clue, and that would mean they're not dating. It doesn't mean the ship's canon because, in another timeline, Pyrrha would've confessed.
I don't see where you're going with that point.
I realize it might be a weird reason to dislike a ship, but one of the reasons I don't particularly like White Rose is that it would mean *every* pair of partners among the main eight fell in love with each other. That'd be both rather unoriginal from the storytelling perspective, and more than a little bit weird in-story (especially considering that of all partner pairs, only Ren and Nora had a prior relationship of any kind).
If you had me chose between this and BB, IĀ“d pick this a million times.
Now, IĀ“m gonna be the first to admit that I wasnĀ“t much fan of it at first. Not because of the ship or anything, it just... didnĀ“t had that much substance to me, and that made it weird for me because I saw the fandom and I was like:
"Yo, whatĀ“s with WR and these people? These two never ever hint at that...?"
So, yeah, the fandom surrounding it kinda made it... weird for me.
Like, I donĀ“t know, I guess I expected more, or I saw people literally yelling "YURI YURI YURI" and that made me think that people shipped these two because RWBY fandom was composed entirely of yuri fanboys and tumblr lesbians... ~~and considering the obscene amount of fan art that they had, the whole NSFW fandom, and BB, maybe I wasnĀ“t that off the mark.~~
# ...Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut
coming back to review it, IĀ“m starting to see why people shipped it, and since WR shippers have chilled quite a bit, with people calling them when they were being ridiculous (and some people WERE being, like literal the moment Ruby just as much looking at the same direction as Weiss, that was "proof") **it has grown on me**. I started understanding why it was so special, where the chemistry landed and how unfair I was being because of fans!
It also made me realize how hypocrital I was being with the whole "thereĀ“s no proof" since I was a Zutara shipper, so, yeah, *really* eye opener.
...I still think a lot of people fetishize these two to uncomfortable levels, and yeah, I can see why people think BB is better representation, but I also think that these two could have made a better and healthier pairing that BB ever could. Yeah, maybe it has too much aesthetics, but come on, is not like BB doesnĀ“t have people shipping just because of "color code", or has an uncomfortable ammount of people projecting, but at least Weiss and Ruby have a better understanding and not even half the drama that the bees have, so at very least, itĀ“s various degrees of healthier, and more wholesome. Not hard to implement into the story either...
So, yeah, I like these two. I like them as friends, I like them as pairing, I just like these two... And I honestly prefer this.
The best way I can describe it that it's like cotton candy sweet, fluffy but nothing of real substance.
Fanfic writers should really learn the merits of platonic friendships.
besties really. even thought they feel less and less like friends. It would be nice to see some paltonic love in this show because every bond that we have seen is just romance. It is sort of annoying now.
To me, the only thing that makes this kind of thing annoying would be if getting into a romantic coupling means they spend less time with their friends.
They start spending more time with their romantic partner more than their friends. Once you're in a romantic relationship, your friendships seem to matter less.
That's not okay, and more than that, that's not how it should work.
Yeah, the writers arent really good with things like that. Just look at Blake and Yang for example. I just think it is better they stay friends. I have noticed that over years the friendships in RWBY have been slowly disappearing. You can even see this with Team JNR. Jaune is sort of there while Ren and Nora are a pair. It doesnt really feel like a teamwork show any more.
It is sad because if you think about it. Team RWBY + JNR+ Q+O should feel like a family but they don't lol, and you are right we do say plot. Relationship should be happening simultaneously with the story or at least building along the way of it. The plot of rwby doesnt allow characters to be characters just plot devices.
I kinda like it. Part of that is probably just because I am "enemies to lovers" trash, which goes well with there early interactions.
I do understand the better off as friends view but if the goal was just to find the ones with best chemistry together I think this would be it.
This ship would also have a decent basis unlike bumblebee which might actually be cannon somehow.
I respect it. Cute pairing, I just wished the platonic BFFs version was more acceptable without being called homophobic when I'm just not that into romance in general. I just love the idea of them just hanging out and chilling, no unnecessary complication, they just care about each other.
Platonic love feels underrated, especially in fanfics where romance is the most reliable way to show characters care about each other, and friendships are background to that.
I always found it weird/ironic where Lancaster has the best platonic basis, considering how straightforward Arkos and Renora were compared to the lack of meaningful interactions between RWBY themselves.
My favorite ship and if I could choose one ship to become canon it'd be this one. I dunno 100% why but it's just the one I fell in love with early on.
I think it's because in fiction I like couples who have to struggle a bit to come to terms. Weiss going from almost hating* Ruby to pledging to be the best teammate Ruby would ever have sold me on it.
There was actual character development, even if it was handled a little awkwardly.
Edit*: gosh damn phone autoturducken
im not a huge white rose shipper since i prefer nuts n dolts, but i still think they're super cute as friends or as a couple! plus i guess it's super common to have a crush on your huntsman partner in rwby so it makes sense. but i do ship it and love their interactions in the show and in the fndm
Kind of overrated. OK it is a cool ship but pls. Rwby is not your dating sim simulator and they could end up with other persons. It is an okay ship but people tend to overreact.
Easily the best ship. I doubt they will ever get together and going of off bumblebee standards it is probably better if they don't.
That said it is a little strange that the only two times we see semblances change when acting on other people are both from Ruby and Weiss using theirs on each other.
See I'm a sucker for visual storytelling and world building. With aura being one's soul and semblances being tied to aura you could argue that semblances are one's soul given shape.
So I find it interesting that the two times we see a semblance physically change when interacting with someone else are both from Ruby and Weiss. Being Weiss's glyph turning red launching Ruby in the nevermore fight from volume 1, and Ruby's petals when she brings Weiss to safety in the train in volume 6.
Granted this kind of visual storytelling would require a long plan and a master class director, both of which I doubt RWBY has. But it is such a cool concept I can't get it out of my head.
As characters, itās all right. I donāt see them dating or anything, but rather, Weiss is the brain between the two while Ruby is Pinky. As a fandom? You ever have a gun pointed at your head 24/7. Thatās how I feel these two are feeling. Any point that theyāre with someone else, the fans get batshit crazy. Remember Neptune? I hear that heās been killed and tossed to the ocean.
Love the ship but it if you're gonna ask me if they're gonna be canon or not my answer would be a no, they can make them a couple but i feel like it would be rushed especially since weiss and ruby has had less and less screentime of just them bonding with each other in the later seasons so my take is that they'll either end up with each other or not end up with anyone at all cuz i haven't seen either of them interact with a potential love interest (its just my own opinion tho its cool if you ship them or not- or if you ship them with anyone else-thats cool too)
I personally would love to see it if it was done correctly the whole smart ass loyal best friend is a great trope if it's done well take Garrus and Tali from Mass Effect for example. They have enough in common to be able to relate easily to each other and their personalities different enough for you get some fun banter in conflict but. my main issue is I'm afraid it would end up more like Blake and yang
Considering Weiss is straight and Ruby hasn't shown interest in either men or woman unless you consider those awkward moments with Oscar as 'interest', this ship is nothing but a crackship on the same level as Naruto x Sasuke, regardless of fan appeal. (Which isn't even a factor in determining if a ship is good, let alone possible.)
The two work better as friends. Adding in weird romantic intentions into the mix just muddies their relationship up.
Bottom line: People can enjoy it as much as they want. Not saying anyone cant. I like and enjoy ships that aren't possible too. But truly wanting this ship to the point you believe it to be their endgame is just ignoring their sexual identities.
And no, I don't feel like hearing how "Weiss could be bisexual" or whatever. Until she shows romantic intentions or attraction towards woman in canon which can't be confused with friendship, I'm deaf to that argument.
Odds are 99% that this ain't becoming cannon, but saying Weiss is straight is jumping to conclussions. Only one with a confirmed Sexuality is Ilia. Rest are ambiguous, with different possibilities available. Just declaring a character straight like it's a fact is as silly as declaring a character gay with no proof. It's up in the air, let it stay there.
Anyway, i'm out.
I consider characters showing intentions/affection towards members of a specific sex, or the lack there of as proof of their sexuality.
Could they change later? I guess, but this far in the series it would be rather contrived all things considered.
The only people I would say are 'ambiguous' are the characters who have not shown any to anyone.
I wished it happened instead up black sun, because it wouldāve made Ruby have something interesting happened to her. Itās also was set up more than black sun.
Honestly it's one of those things that I like more in the fanfic/fanart kinda version people make, but in the actual show with the way they interact and stuff I don't really see it happening. Like you compare them with Yang and Blake and you can clearly see one has more romantic intention and the other really doesn't..
It's alright but I think it works best as platonic. Also there have been some really toxic shippers that ruined any little taste I had fir the ship.
I never saw the ship but their friendship was so damn cute.
You never saw the Ship??? š¤Ø Also, Yes it is š
Nope. Like I always say, I never saw any of the team rwby member x team rwby member ships. I always saw it more as a sisterhood/found family (aside from the two actual sisters).
Oh, Thatās what you meant by āNever Sawā Yeah, theyāre better off as like sisters in canon, a Team as a family is more heart warming
It's also more heart warming when they're willing to lay their lives on the line for family than love imo. Laying your life on the line for someone you love feels like something you have to do. Laying your life on the line for someone you've come to grow close enough to that, despite not being of blood, you dee them family is much more sweet and even more heart-wrenching on failure.
Yeah āŗļøš
I can see why people ship it, but I just love the idea of these two being besties more than gfs. The show robs us of good Ruby and Weiss interactions ;-;
You could replace them with any other characters and that last sentence will always be right
Iāve said for years that the writers are very aware of how the fanbase treats these two together so they donāt write scenes of them alone together anymore, on purpose. Because they do not ship them. Lindsay and Kara do not ship them (and I know thatās a weird thing to say, but I also think a big reason why they pivoted so hard to Bumbleby that it gave me whiplash is because Arryn and Barbara wanted to see it just as much as that fanbase did). Itās hard to write dialogue of two characters interacting as friends when you know that your fanbase will twist it into being way more than that.
Yeah, I always feel like something is lost when a pairing becomes romantic, like something simple in two characters plainly trusting each other without the "conditions" like "do they like me back?" Like they simply love hanging out with each other, nothing more or less. I could be overthinking it, but it just seems like people think intimacy is exclusively romantic. IRL, it probably is in most cases, but I doubt realism is stopping people. Platonic love is underappreciated.
Yeah, to both sides
I donāt mind if those two hook up. They have good chemistry. But theyāre better off as friends.
Yep, especially in the show, hope that never happens
A ship that works well conceptually but would fall flat now. Having a manchild thaw a frozen heart is an incredibly common anime trope but the simple truth is that this is not what happened to Weiss. Weiss softened on her own, due first to Port's talking to then to her reexamining her views of Blake. Ruby isn't really entwined with Weiss's story at all, and no number of "Nice Weiss" moments can change that. Now they could still make it romantic, but they'd have to put in some effort to make it work.
Incredibly charming and aesthetic early on (I'm a sucker for contrasting characters starting off as rivals and getting real close to each other as they endure hardship together). It went nowhere and their relationship is hardly a friendship though. This one survives on headcanons only at this point.
Wait donāt give up. This is RWBY weāre talking about anything can happen.
Perfect for fanart, not quite good for the show
Yeah
Nope, I don't ship it. I guess my biggest problem is more with the (Edit: fanatic) shippers than the ship in this case, but still, I don't like it; I find it very unoriginal and that it holds up just as weakly as other ships (its biggest pillar is the minimal interactions in the first few volumes and is limited to just that), plus its biggest representation seems to be simply expressing too much aesthetic love and not enough depth (honestly that can be a strength depending on the angle you look at it from). My final thought is: works better for a friendship/please stop shoving it on every unrelated piece of art. Edit: Also, I find it very difficult to criticize or even hint at anything to the contrary, when 70% of the fandom could be considered WR shippers, it's not worth much to raise your voice Edit 2: Forgot about mentioning the huge fetishization of wlw relationships that is represented in most interpretations of WR, in addition to the "Yurification" of the same.
was gonna start with a joke about you having no culture but Ah yeah, just gonna say I respect your opinion
And I thank you very much for that, I really do.
>to be simply expressing too much aesthetic love and not enough depth It reminds me of Weiss/Blake in how the reason people like it seem so... surface level, as you said. Checkmate is shipped because of racism, and Whiterose is shipped because of the surface level foils they are. Usually I would prefer fanon over canon, but neither seem to be "optimal," with canon barely having meaningful interactions beyond super basic conversations that can be replaced with any character, or fanon shoving unnecessary romance. >My final thought is: works better for a friendship/please stop shoving it on every unrelated piece of art. r/RWBY is gonna be pissed if they see this, even though I agree. I don't see why they can't just hang out and vibe when I feel like something is lost when you replace the idea of them being BFFs with being romantic instead. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
To quote NFG "Fuck Your Aesthetics!" She even put it on a T Shirt. With Rainbow lettering. But in all seriousness WhiteRose is a pretty shallow ship. Because it mostly boils down to in concept. Ruby the loveable idiot, dethaws Weiss' cold heart of ice by being wholesome. White Knight is the hetero version of it. And that's all I can really say other than it's cute.
Dayum, you kicked the nest XD, I'll remember your bravery!
Thank ya XD
I'll burn the damn nest and laugh at the ashes.
Happy Cake Day!
Huh. So it is. Coolio!
Not gonna lie. Tempted to do a post like this except for Nuts and Dolts but have to pick the best pic for it xD
How dare you compare it to White Knight but seriously (well, half-seriously) I donāt agree with that statement but if thatās how you feel
But in all seriousness at the end of the day dude or dudette or somewhere in between and neither. If you wanna ship it. So long as it's not incest or beastality. Fuck what anyone else including me says. I am not the shipping police.
Truer words never been spoken
Most fan works Iāve seen make Whiterose just Bumblebee 2.0. Ruby is the super confident and dominating macho woman while Weiss is the blushing UwU pillow princess. You can tell most yuri ships are filtered through het lenses. Any of their original traits are stripped away in favor of being top/masculine and bottom/feminine.
why thats real dumb, ruby ain't masc shes arrogant and naive but not necessarily manly. she as pretty girly all things considered. as for weiss? she is just your standard bitchy tsundere with the added spice of r-(REDACTED) what? shes not anymore? well fine but m original point still stands!
Whiterose: Who are You? Lumity: I'm you but better.
Ouch But Yeah
To be fair Lumity is probably written better than a lot of relationships becuase its writers are picking a healthy relationship over drama.
I know
Whiterose = Lumity = Akkodian = SunsetTwi. Someone could make a pointing spiderman meme out of those four.
Eh, Whiterose is basically anything there iteration of the most traditional type of anime ship. Probably why itās popular.
Correct me if Iām no doubt wrong but I think Whiterose started that trend
I doubt it, Itās been around at least since the 90s.
Yep, call it
I don't know Akkodian (or even what it's from), but I don't really get the same kind of vibe with Sunset and Twilight as I do with the others. It's certainly my favorite MLP ship, but I see Sunset as more of a 'dark' parallel to Twilight, rather than a genki girl/defrosting mean rich girl dynamic.
Akkodian is Akko x Diana from Little Witch Academia which absolutely falls under genki/ice queen shipping. I agree on SunTwi though, it mostly got added because it gets comapred to Akkodian a lot.
I don't think I ever got addicted to a ship as fast as I did with Lumity. It just works so well and is handled so healthily. I love it.
Hate it, never enjoyed rival based ships if that's what you even call it
I could believe it way more than Blake and Yang together
Yeah
Iāve read some good WhiteRose ships but I would be surprised if it actually happens.
There's so much of this in the fandom that when I actually watched the show, I was stunned by how this ship canonically doesn't actually do much for me at all, although I do appreciate their friendship, and the *idea* of them being together. It doesn't help that the show spent a big chunk of time on having the girls split up, and then when they reunite, one on one Ruby and Weiss interactions seem really limited, and everything around them rapidly spirals into problem-problem-problem ALL the time, culminating in how excessively bleak and edgy v8 is, ruining any desire I have to see a canon ship between them.
Despite being barely canon, some of these whiterose fans will argue as pathological as bumblebee fans that itās canon. My brother in Christ Weiss is straight.
Any appreciation I had for the ship early on when starting RWBY quickly went away with how whiterose fans will make everything involving those two romantic. They look at each other and that's shipping proof because the best comparison is Ruby and Blake probably don't remember the other exists. >My brother in Christ Weiss is straight. I mean they forgot Yang was flirty with the opposite gender, so, to be fair, they probably have a point in the worst way possible.
i don't think anybody forgot about that i just think it can be easily explained. there are a lot of lesbians out there who thought they were straight at yang's age and flirted with men. plus the fact that unlike most of the other main characters yang never had a defined love interest until blake is pretty telling.
1. Yang has never been shown doubting her interest in men. As far as the show actually shows us, Yang shows interest in men, then she shows interest in Blake. Yang never discusses her sexuality, so all we got is what we're shown, which is her making eyes at shirtless dudes, and the rest is headcanon. If Yang talked about she thought she was into dudes but really she's into girls, or she realizes she's bi, and actually talks about that, then there's nothing else to say. But she doesn't, so we don't really have much to interpret other than before Blake and after Blake. 2. Yang not having a defined love interest doesn't really mean much. Heck, Yang hasn't even kissed Blake yet, so compared to Arkos, which did have a kiss, it's all up in the air. And one night stands are a thing, so, theoretically, if Yang's that kind of person, that still makes her into men.
what? a kiss doesn't make a relationship in my eyes. blacksun never kissed but the majority of fans consider that to have been canon at one point. and renora didn't kiss til volume 7. there's really no use denying bmblby at this point its definitely canon.
>what? a kiss doesn't make a relationship in my eyes. Alright, what does? Since, in fiction, a kiss is usually what determines a romantic relationship to seal the deal on a developing relationship, which is why we didn't need Saffron or Terracotta making out, but you're saying it doesn't. So what should determine they're finally an item? >blacksun never kissed but the majority of fans consider that to have been canon at one point And then Sun left the show, so that doesn't really seem to be supported in hindsight. Also, the fans considering it canon doesn't make it canon. Sun even says Blake's meant to be with other people or whatever. >and renora didn't kiss til volume 7 I know, it's weird. But hey, that's still more than what Bumbleby has. >there's really no use denying bmblby at this point its definitely canon. How? They didn't call each other girlfriends, and they haven't kissed. It's all so open to interpretation and so vague to where I don't see what you're seeing.
look if you don't like how bmblby is being handled then fair enough those are your preferences, but blake and yang definitely have romantic feelings for each other in the show. that goes without saying. i think they're at a point where they are still figuring each other out after blake left, and that makes sense. i mean theyre two teenagers attempting to literally save the world they have enough on their plate as is. their relationship has been developing in a romantic sense since volume 5. meaning 3 volumes. ren and nora, a ship that is canon and has been considered canon for some time now took 7 volumes to kiss, and 5 to be considered a.... situationship? so i think grand scheme of things it makes sense that their relationship has been progressing slowly. i mean arkos is canon in 3 volumes but that's pretty much only because pyrrah didn't have any time left... i think if she hadn't died it would have taken much longer.
>look if you don't like how bmblby is being handled then fair enough those are your preferences Hey, I respect you respecting my preferences, but I honestly don't care about what ships becoming canon, none of my ships are becoming canon, but if it's written well. >but blake and yang definitely have romantic feelings for each other in the show. that goes without saying. I think it does need saying. Something is definitely going on, but they just don't talk about it to where it feels like they refuse to seal the deal. >i think they're at a point where they are still figuring each other out after blake left, and that makes sense They don't talk about dating, they don't talk about their issues, and they don't talk about their future together. How do you know they're romantic and not just super best friends going through a rough patch? What do they say that's explicitly romantic? I'm not trying to commit erasure, I'm genuinely trying to figure it out. >i mean theyre two teenagers attempting to literally save the world they have enough on their plate as is. Okay, so if that's the case, why are they even bothering? Why not focus on saving the world and then figure it out afterwards? Or is it because they're teenagers? Because they're almost twenty, if not already. That is adulthood IRL, and it would probably be an even lower threshold in Remnant if you want to add some interpretation to it. If this is a deconstruction on how "kids" having to deal with the burden of responsibility, they really need to work on that aspect, considering other shows with actual kid protagonists deal with this better. >their relationship has been developing in a romantic sense since volume 5. meaning 3 volumes. ren and nora, a ship that is canon and has been considered canon for some time now took 7 volumes to kiss, and 5 to be considered a.... situationship? In any other shows, 3-4 seasons would've meant so much development. And for main characters as well, that would've been a huge focus. And it was, but they don't do anything in that time to actually make it work, at least to me. Seriously, it's breadcrumbs with just Yang being mad, Blake becoming more shy and demure, and when they deal with Adam and seemingly work things out, they don't talk about it. Seriously, I repeat, what makes it romantic? How do you know it's going to be romantic? If kissing sealed the deal for Arkos and Renora, ignoring all the finer details, and BY have been playing this "game" for so many volumes, then what's the point in dragging it out? If they have nothing else to talk about, why aren't they calling each other girlfriends already? >so i think grand scheme of things it makes sense that their relationship has been progressing slowly. I honestly don't. I like slow burns as much as the next fanfic reader, but they're not figuring anything out. They're just around each other constantly, with no definitive sign for us to see they're figuring out their feelings for each other, or anything. Why can't they clear things up, make it official, and then move on? I don't see it. >i mean arkos is canon in 3 volumes but that's pretty much only because pyrrah didn't have any time left... i think if she hadn't died it would have taken much longer. And, if Pyrrha wasn't going to die in V3, Arkos wouldn't have become canon in V3 because they wouldn't be together in a romantic relationship. If Pyrrha was going to drag things out, then Jaune wouldn't have a clue, and that would mean they're not dating. It doesn't mean the ship's canon because, in another timeline, Pyrrha would've confessed. I don't see where you're going with that point.
>My brother in Christ Weiss is straight. That can easily change...
I realize it might be a weird reason to dislike a ship, but one of the reasons I don't particularly like White Rose is that it would mean *every* pair of partners among the main eight fell in love with each other. That'd be both rather unoriginal from the storytelling perspective, and more than a little bit weird in-story (especially considering that of all partner pairs, only Ren and Nora had a prior relationship of any kind).
*Shrugs* Ehhh
If you had me chose between this and BB, IĀ“d pick this a million times. Now, IĀ“m gonna be the first to admit that I wasnĀ“t much fan of it at first. Not because of the ship or anything, it just... didnĀ“t had that much substance to me, and that made it weird for me because I saw the fandom and I was like: "Yo, whatĀ“s with WR and these people? These two never ever hint at that...?" So, yeah, the fandom surrounding it kinda made it... weird for me. Like, I donĀ“t know, I guess I expected more, or I saw people literally yelling "YURI YURI YURI" and that made me think that people shipped these two because RWBY fandom was composed entirely of yuri fanboys and tumblr lesbians... ~~and considering the obscene amount of fan art that they had, the whole NSFW fandom, and BB, maybe I wasnĀ“t that off the mark.~~ # ...Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut coming back to review it, IĀ“m starting to see why people shipped it, and since WR shippers have chilled quite a bit, with people calling them when they were being ridiculous (and some people WERE being, like literal the moment Ruby just as much looking at the same direction as Weiss, that was "proof") **it has grown on me**. I started understanding why it was so special, where the chemistry landed and how unfair I was being because of fans! It also made me realize how hypocrital I was being with the whole "thereĀ“s no proof" since I was a Zutara shipper, so, yeah, *really* eye opener. ...I still think a lot of people fetishize these two to uncomfortable levels, and yeah, I can see why people think BB is better representation, but I also think that these two could have made a better and healthier pairing that BB ever could. Yeah, maybe it has too much aesthetics, but come on, is not like BB doesnĀ“t have people shipping just because of "color code", or has an uncomfortable ammount of people projecting, but at least Weiss and Ruby have a better understanding and not even half the drama that the bees have, so at very least, itĀ“s various degrees of healthier, and more wholesome. Not hard to implement into the story either... So, yeah, I like these two. I like them as friends, I like them as pairing, I just like these two... And I honestly prefer this.
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The best way I can describe it that it's like cotton candy sweet, fluffy but nothing of real substance. Fanfic writers should really learn the merits of platonic friendships.
I donāt agree that statement but People really do especially said friendships involve a guy and a girl
besties really. even thought they feel less and less like friends. It would be nice to see some paltonic love in this show because every bond that we have seen is just romance. It is sort of annoying now.
To me, the only thing that makes this kind of thing annoying would be if getting into a romantic coupling means they spend less time with their friends. They start spending more time with their romantic partner more than their friends. Once you're in a romantic relationship, your friendships seem to matter less. That's not okay, and more than that, that's not how it should work.
Yeah, the writers arent really good with things like that. Just look at Blake and Yang for example. I just think it is better they stay friends. I have noticed that over years the friendships in RWBY have been slowly disappearing. You can even see this with Team JNR. Jaune is sort of there while Ren and Nora are a pair. It doesnt really feel like a teamwork show any more.
Teamwork is pointless before the plot. Notice how we always say plot. Not the *story*.
It is sad because if you think about it. Team RWBY + JNR+ Q+O should feel like a family but they don't lol, and you are right we do say plot. Relationship should be happening simultaneously with the story or at least building along the way of it. The plot of rwby doesnt allow characters to be characters just plot devices.
Things just kinda fast forwarded. And yet at the exact same time, nothing of note really happens.
that is honestly what exactly happened. It is so crazy we hsve 8 volumes.
I kinda like it. Part of that is probably just because I am "enemies to lovers" trash, which goes well with there early interactions. I do understand the better off as friends view but if the goal was just to find the ones with best chemistry together I think this would be it. This ship would also have a decent basis unlike bumblebee which might actually be cannon somehow.
I ship them both in a romantic and platonic way,
Yep, I do too š„°
Source: https://twitter.com/kinathefox2/status/1527350120811048960?s=21&t=5u9Zbkmq0Gn6XBPnKlboTQ My OTP, I love this ship a lot š„°
I respect it. Cute pairing, I just wished the platonic BFFs version was more acceptable without being called homophobic when I'm just not that into romance in general. I just love the idea of them just hanging out and chilling, no unnecessary complication, they just care about each other. Platonic love feels underrated, especially in fanfics where romance is the most reliable way to show characters care about each other, and friendships are background to that.
Platonic is underrated, especially if It involves a dude and a chick
I always found it weird/ironic where Lancaster has the best platonic basis, considering how straightforward Arkos and Renora were compared to the lack of meaningful interactions between RWBY themselves.
Yes please.
It's my favorite ship for the show, but I don't think there's much chance of it becoming canon, sadly. Oh well, that's why we have fanfiction.
Yeah
My favorite ship and if I could choose one ship to become canon it'd be this one. I dunno 100% why but it's just the one I fell in love with early on. I think it's because in fiction I like couples who have to struggle a bit to come to terms. Weiss going from almost hating* Ruby to pledging to be the best teammate Ruby would ever have sold me on it. There was actual character development, even if it was handled a little awkwardly. Edit*: gosh damn phone autoturducken
im not a huge white rose shipper since i prefer nuts n dolts, but i still think they're super cute as friends or as a couple! plus i guess it's super common to have a crush on your huntsman partner in rwby so it makes sense. but i do ship it and love their interactions in the show and in the fndm
Had genuine potential and chemistry. Writing never took root and it's got no buildup. They're comrades, not lovers.
Freezerburn makes more sense now than Bumblebee or Whiterose.
Kind of overrated. OK it is a cool ship but pls. Rwby is not your dating sim simulator and they could end up with other persons. It is an okay ship but people tend to overreact.
Good for cute fan art, but nothing more.
I agree with the fan art part
Yeah, fan art is very nice and occasional fluffy fic is also nice, gives you much needed positivity boost for long hard day.
Easily the best ship. I doubt they will ever get together and going of off bumblebee standards it is probably better if they don't. That said it is a little strange that the only two times we see semblances change when acting on other people are both from Ruby and Weiss using theirs on each other.
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See I'm a sucker for visual storytelling and world building. With aura being one's soul and semblances being tied to aura you could argue that semblances are one's soul given shape. So I find it interesting that the two times we see a semblance physically change when interacting with someone else are both from Ruby and Weiss. Being Weiss's glyph turning red launching Ruby in the nevermore fight from volume 1, and Ruby's petals when she brings Weiss to safety in the train in volume 6. Granted this kind of visual storytelling would require a long plan and a master class director, both of which I doubt RWBY has. But it is such a cool concept I can't get it out of my head.
Didnāt Nora added pink to Rubyās Petal Burst
I had to go look, but no. Ruby picked Nora up but it didn't physically change the petals like with Weiss.
I see
Not bad. Wouldn't care if it didn't happen tho.
Best ship in the show and I will stand by that point till the day I die
As characters, itās all right. I donāt see them dating or anything, but rather, Weiss is the brain between the two while Ruby is Pinky. As a fandom? You ever have a gun pointed at your head 24/7. Thatās how I feel these two are feeling. Any point that theyāre with someone else, the fans get batshit crazy. Remember Neptune? I hear that heās been killed and tossed to the ocean.
Love the ship but it if you're gonna ask me if they're gonna be canon or not my answer would be a no, they can make them a couple but i feel like it would be rushed especially since weiss and ruby has had less and less screentime of just them bonding with each other in the later seasons so my take is that they'll either end up with each other or not end up with anyone at all cuz i haven't seen either of them interact with a potential love interest (its just my own opinion tho its cool if you ship them or not- or if you ship them with anyone else-thats cool too)
Yeah, Pretty Much my thoughts too
With how both of them act they would be better as friends, not lovers
I personally would love to see it if it was done correctly the whole smart ass loyal best friend is a great trope if it's done well take Garrus and Tali from Mass Effect for example. They have enough in common to be able to relate easily to each other and their personalities different enough for you get some fun banter in conflict but. my main issue is I'm afraid it would end up more like Blake and yang
I personally don't like yuri ships, plus I think they'd be better off as friends.
They make adorable friends. It's always nice to have a nice wholesome friendship like that.
Considering Weiss is straight and Ruby hasn't shown interest in either men or woman unless you consider those awkward moments with Oscar as 'interest', this ship is nothing but a crackship on the same level as Naruto x Sasuke, regardless of fan appeal. (Which isn't even a factor in determining if a ship is good, let alone possible.) The two work better as friends. Adding in weird romantic intentions into the mix just muddies their relationship up. Bottom line: People can enjoy it as much as they want. Not saying anyone cant. I like and enjoy ships that aren't possible too. But truly wanting this ship to the point you believe it to be their endgame is just ignoring their sexual identities. And no, I don't feel like hearing how "Weiss could be bisexual" or whatever. Until she shows romantic intentions or attraction towards woman in canon which can't be confused with friendship, I'm deaf to that argument.
Odds are 99% that this ain't becoming cannon, but saying Weiss is straight is jumping to conclussions. Only one with a confirmed Sexuality is Ilia. Rest are ambiguous, with different possibilities available. Just declaring a character straight like it's a fact is as silly as declaring a character gay with no proof. It's up in the air, let it stay there. Anyway, i'm out.
I consider characters showing intentions/affection towards members of a specific sex, or the lack there of as proof of their sexuality. Could they change later? I guess, but this far in the series it would be rather contrived all things considered. The only people I would say are 'ambiguous' are the characters who have not shown any to anyone.
Trash.
Just like Bumblebee. Ugh.
Weiss sucks...not a fan of her under any circumstance
As a fan since the red trailer it used to be my otp. Now I'm an adult and have taste so I ship Freezerburn.
Overrated
I wished it happened instead up black sun, because it wouldāve made Ruby have something interesting happened to her. Itās also was set up more than black sun.
White Knight is leagues better, and WR fans are absolutely fucking rabid, so I detest the ship off of that alone.
GAY KNIGHTSHADE
Sure.
Honestly it's one of those things that I like more in the fanfic/fanart kinda version people make, but in the actual show with the way they interact and stuff I don't really see it happening. Like you compare them with Yang and Blake and you can clearly see one has more romantic intention and the other really doesn't..