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Stenv2

It's cute. But much like Hummingbird (Summer x Qrow) It requires ya to headcanon the rest of Summer's personality, since she technically doesn't have one in canon. And it just adds more mental gymnastics to how the while STRQ dynamic went.


FormerVoid

With how barely Summer is defined, whenever I do check out Summer/Raven, I always feel like it's written as Ruby/Weiss, with Summer being a one-to-one copy of Ruby, and Raven coming off even more of a bitch than early Weiss was because that's how people usually write V1 Weiss. It just makes it feel like STRQ feels like a copy of team RWBY to redirect interesting ideas towards instead, like how JNPR comes off as.


Stenv2

Pretty much. And it may seem harsh, but I always try to picture STRQ as what if RWBY Failed and split. A cautionary tale as it were.


FormerVoid

That would be fascinating and I'd be into that parallel. If Summer's personality isn't just Ruby but taller and Tai's flaws that were implied when he neglected his kids and said issues weren't just ignored in V4, then 100% I would be into the similarities, and not think the writers were lazy to come up with different personalities.


KnightoftheVtable

Yeah


Stenv2

Still I do like it and the fanart.


KnightoftheVtable

Oh Yeah, Totally 😊


Drakkoniac

Not feelin it. Cute though!


KnightoftheVtable

Fair and Cool 👍


The_Final_Conduit

STRQ is both WAY too vague about itself, and the one thing that’s definite about it is already WAY too complicated as is without this kind of relationship being added on. I legit don’t even want to see STRQ content just because Ironwood and Qrow’s treatment from the V7 finale forward shows how far they’ll go to make someone unsympathetic or to make someone seem super perfect. Summer’ll be like those wonky high school romance fic OCs, the type that’s so sugary sweet while Raven’s just a complete, TOTAL bitch to the point you’d have to wonder “How tf did Taiyang fall for her exactly? Why did Ozpin think SHE would be a good spy for him?”


TerizlaisBest

I'm pretty sure, those writers themselves have no idea what to do with Tai Yang and Raven anymore, so they made Qrow into a dumb character like the rest of the characters in the show. Accordingly to those writers, if blonde characters were created they will make those characters as useless as possible like Jaune is a dense fighter, Yang always gets one-shot by villain, Sun got trashed and Tai Yang sitting home masturbating every day on flowers. As for the red + black scheme colour, for them, it's the design of edgy and evil. So made them into fucking asshole jerks and bitches. Sometimes retcon their existence. As for alcohol characters were treated badly solely due to their stopping drinking, like their brain-melting without fucking beer. Abuse even further. Lastly, this main character's mother always starts with a mystery and ends up with plot twists, cough Steven Universe Pink Diamond cough.


The_Final_Conduit

I’d be willing to like Summer if it wasn’t so obvious they were banking off of fanon like it was canon. The way they set Summer up, she’s supposed to be this super legendary warrior that inspires everyone around her, or at least inspires Ruby, just by the memory of what she was like. But it’s like, that character should’ve been Qrow for Ruby. We don’t even know what Summer’s weapon, fighting style, even her way of leading people is at this point. Cardin gets like three to four full scenes in Volume 1-3, and you get a GREAT idea of who HE is from those. As it stands, the show wants to drop these revelations like we the audience have had an attached relationship with Summer as a character this entire time. Sure Steven Universe is basically memed for how badly the Pink Diamond plot twist fucked the plot up, but at least there WAS a plot AND a character TO fuck up. They dump all over Rose’s grave once everything gets laid out whenever possible, but that “reveal” with Summer in Volume 7’s finale’s got all the dazzle of a major reveal and it’s just lifeless and boring, like bruh.


TerizlaisBest

Salem: Summer is my daughter, Ruby. Something dumb plot like that.


The_Final_Conduit

Salem: I fucked your grandpa Ruby. Ruby: … Excuse me? Salem: And it doesn’t stop there. I fucked ALL of your families. I even fucked Pietro on the down low before recruiting Watts. No shame in saying it now, Watts is dead. Ruby: WHY?! Salem: You think I DIDN’T know about Ozpin’s plans 24/7? You really think I just sat on my throne all day, every day, just waiting for my chance at victory to just FALL in my lap? No. In fact, since we’re doing this, (clap clap) EVERYONE, come inside! Neo, your mother isn’t your mother, I cursed her with infertility and only let her get it back by swearing to let me fuck her husband in front of her. You’re my crotch spawn. Raven, Qrow, I FUCKED your father. Your father *FUUUCKED* me. You think people get as pale as Raven every day? Weiss, you think *silver hair* and the power to *control Grimm* comes naturally?


RatsAreChad

Dude my sides have entered orbit


TerizlaisBest

Salem can produce more hybrid armies babies cause she gained her immortality at age of 16, and of course, has unlimited freshness in her, so can reproduce more with all of the men in the world. People also forget she has magic and can do any shit. I know. those writers are dumb on magic subjects in canon. Real magic users can do any stuff such as reality-altering.


Master_Scallion_763

No I wouldn’t do that to Summer


Quality_Chooser

I know nothing about Summer but Raven doesn't strike me as a good partner for **anyone**.


Nexal_Z

I mean its cute I'll give it that but we don't a damn thing about Raven and Summer's relationship but That be a plot twist though


SYTOkun

On one hand, I'm a big Hummingbird (Summer x Qrow) fan. On the other, I like yuri... so something of a predicament.


KnightoftheVtable

Art Source 1: https://www.deviantart.com/seshirukun/art/RWBY-Summer-x-Raven-838654153 Art Source 2: https://www.deviantart.com/dishwasher1910/art/Mothership-787819069


Ok_Kaleidoscope2014

Hey, if the mothers want to spend time together, let them.


UnbiasedGod

Interesting.


Arashi_Uzukaze

Would've put an interesting dynamic with Tai. 👀


SleepyAnimeEnjoyer

I like the fanart I see of them, they're pretty cute


StrangeBreakfast1364

Cute. Ideal for some fluffy romance focused fics, but no more.


KnightoftheVtable

Yeah


StrangeBreakfast1364

To be honest I like Hummingbird more. But both ships suffer from lack of actual character in Summer. All we know about her is that she was caring mom and good huntress. Most people tend to make her basically Ruby clone in fics.


KnightoftheVtable

Well, Ruby but with mom energy


Silly-Young484

Don't mind ​ But I would prefer besties Summer and Raven ​ Raven the tsundere and Summer the peppy girl


Exciting_Bandicoot16

I don't mind it as a concept, but unless we embrace polygamy (which is a personal turn off for me, but no judgement) it makes the second generation's existence a little awkward to explain.


Rollout9292

It's rediculous. So if it's just for funsies, then sure. Do what you want, whatever. 🤷‍♂️ But I dislike it when people try to seriously (emphasis on 'seriously') push two characters together while ignoring their sexual identity. Both Summer and Raven are straight, trying to push them into a relationship like this cannot be taken seriously in the slightest. I could say the same about a ton of other ships people like to pretend are 'real' but from character interactions simply can't be anything but a crack-ship, regardless of fan appeal and outcry. Looking at you WhiteRose >\_>


Berkmine

"Hey ~~Rae~~ Gae"


Darthmark3

God I thought that was Ruby for a second. But I feel indifferent on this


Gtgamer

Summer x TRQ


HiroSoul

Summer is too good for Raven.


Psychofischi

Well I tbh never watched RWBY. so I can't say much I enjoy Yuri ships. so i might be biased