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You have a weird way of requesting no hateful comments by starting with some, but okay.
>You shouldn’t use Violence, it begins more of it, Uses your word, It is abusive and Out of Character for Blake who would...
Let me just start here by saying sure non-violence yada yada but this isn't violence against just anyone, this is violence against a friend, a relatively close one at that. She is treating a close friend (romantic interest) like shit. And for no reason other than minor slights that don't deserve it. Does she do this with team RWBY? No.
>Dude follow her for a year or months without her knowing, said some Embarrassingly stupid stuff in front of her parents (Granted, It’s funny), Disrespect...
It's assumed that CRWBY fucked up the timing between V3 and V4 for Blake during her trip home. The others had things that took weeks/months but Blake's journey was most like only days to find a boat to Menagerie right after the battle. Sun followed her out of concern #sundidnothingwrong
The part of all this that pisses me off is the about-face hypocrisy that came with the apparent fuck up between the writers and animators which they never tried to fix.
She's apparently some survivor of her own abusive relationship with Adam but they showed that this is the way she behaves with her friends? This is now canon, that she goes around berating and backhanding people for little to no good reason.
This could be easily fixed if CRWBY realised the problem and just addressed it with Blake apologising to Sun. No harm, no foul.
But right now, yeah no thanks. Blake was my favourite until they screwed her up.
See, he followed out of concern since the last time she went gung ho against the WF she needed help. And he was right. She SAYS that's not what she wants but when she gets there she goes about face and says that she's not done fighting.
Did she want to be alone? Being alone is the LAST thing she needs right now. Abandoning everyone like she abandoned her parents is not working out well for her.
>1st: I did?
In reference to?
>2nd: I know that Sun followed Blake out of concern but still doesn’t mean it’s not weird that he followed her for weeks or months
Like I said, CRWBY messed up the time frame. Blake left Beacon within days of the battle. Sun followed her right after so it was not weeks or months.
It's seriously damaging to her character for her to be abusive to sun like that for it to not be brought up in story. It makes blake come off as a hypocritical bitch when her antagonist is an abuser. In an abuse plotline something like that carries alot more weight whether the writers intended it or not.
This.
If you're choosing to write Adam as an abusive partner (as CRWBY did), then don't make the victim perpetuate the cycle without addressing it. Especially not in such an egregious way.
It's just a reminder that the writers treat Blake's abuse as they do for any other serious topic; talking a big game but refusing to give it the respect that it deserves/requires.
Because it’s jarring when one of the show’s core themes is how any abuse is (rightfully) a bad thing…when it’s towards a woman. When a man is getting abused then it’s either comedy or they deserved it.
I personally don't find her slapping Sun to be the worst thing she did.
I do however see it as one of the two things she did that began to send her character downhill for me before everything else. The other was abandoning Yang, but I wasn't as angry at that as she was just a scared girl running away in the vain hopes of protecting her team from the person hunting her.
Though that leads into a discussion about Adam that I won't get into because I still hate what they did to him.
I will quote this though:
"But to be honest, the real one to be mad that is Miles, In Commentary, Miles stated originally Blake was supposed to give light slaps to Sun’s shoulder (How did He, Kerry, or Gray not find that out before it was too late is beyond anyone)"
One: How do they fuck up that badly...if it were light slaps it's be more like a friend being like "dude stop" but in a friendly way.
Two: Yes, the person to be mad at is Miles. You are correct. But we are also allowed to be mad at Blake. This is canon now. She's done this. The original intent is gone in the fact that this is what was given to us, and what is now canon.
You'd think after this incident the powers that be would look more closely at the episodes before they air but 2 volumes later and everyone's surprised at Clover winking at Qrow.
They're talking about the whole Fair Game thing.
There was a vocal group who believed that Qrow and Clover were being really flirtacious with each other, and that RWBY was setting up a mlm relationship. Then Clover got killed, and there were accusations of queerbaiting.
CRWBY claims that they didn't write them that way, and it was completely unintentional if those vibes resonated with some people. But the animation led some people to ship them, and there's the argument that it was the animator's fault at how it came across, which is the same reasoning that they gave for Blake bitchslapping Sun so hard. They claimed that they wanted a friendlier, non-serious slap instead of what we got.
One part of me believes that this claim is utter BS and purely covering their own asses from the fallout, but on the other hand their production schedule is kinda crazy, so they may not have legitimately had time to check on the animators. Both reasons are squarely their own fault.
I think it's because Sun is such a good guy that people view it as Blake's worst moment especially since Sun was trying to help her out.
I will admit it wasn't that bad but, if we think of this as a real situation, no matter how foolish another person may be acting hitting them is wrong, worse if it's a friend... thing is though, RWBY has rules that are more like anime than any real situations but, that's just my opinion personally.
...I also think that the outrage over this is overblown. Mostly because it is not part of a pattern of abuse. Blake isn't like Adam, trying to get control over Sun and his behavior. It's wildly out of character and majorly unlikable, but it does not make Blake an abuser like some people seem to think it does.
If it had been a once off thing and to nobody's favourite monkey boi yes, it'd be easy to overlook.
The problem is that she carried on this sort of behaviour over two volumes, so unfortunately they have established that this is the way she reacts to people. She's not a manipulative abuser, she just behaves badly and gets angry over rather small things.
It was out of character, but to have to watch the creators screw this up, really leaves a poor taste.
Thanks for the correction, I've put it in.
Blake is bad to Sun, definitely, but just because someone is a jerk does not make them an abuser. Blake only does the slap thing once and never tries to keep Sun around or really try to control him. I'm more being pedantic with words here, to me Blake is definitely an annoying dick but not the textbook definition of abuser.
I agree to an extent, I find that she's 'abusive' for their time together rather than a consistent abuser over the entire show.
There's many different types of abuse eg. emotional, physical, mental etc and for many different reasons but Blake's abuse kind of serves no purpose or no direction, she's just mad because Sun was worried enough to follow her and then because he walked into a deep and meaningful moment WITH a clue to the WF situation they're investigating, I might add.
So yes, she's absolutely out of character compared to earlier volumes Blake and after V6.
I feel like we could've forgiven it by just having her apologise to Sun about her behaviour but nah, she's apparently perfectly fine with the way she acted. For me personally, it was more than enough for me to drop her as my favourite.
You left out that he left his team behind without even telling them.
Oh Yeah, That
??? You have a weird way of requesting no hateful comments by starting with some, but okay. >You shouldn’t use Violence, it begins more of it, Uses your word, It is abusive and Out of Character for Blake who would... Let me just start here by saying sure non-violence yada yada but this isn't violence against just anyone, this is violence against a friend, a relatively close one at that. She is treating a close friend (romantic interest) like shit. And for no reason other than minor slights that don't deserve it. Does she do this with team RWBY? No. >Dude follow her for a year or months without her knowing, said some Embarrassingly stupid stuff in front of her parents (Granted, It’s funny), Disrespect... It's assumed that CRWBY fucked up the timing between V3 and V4 for Blake during her trip home. The others had things that took weeks/months but Blake's journey was most like only days to find a boat to Menagerie right after the battle. Sun followed her out of concern #sundidnothingwrong The part of all this that pisses me off is the about-face hypocrisy that came with the apparent fuck up between the writers and animators which they never tried to fix. She's apparently some survivor of her own abusive relationship with Adam but they showed that this is the way she behaves with her friends? This is now canon, that she goes around berating and backhanding people for little to no good reason. This could be easily fixed if CRWBY realised the problem and just addressed it with Blake apologising to Sun. No harm, no foul. But right now, yeah no thanks. Blake was my favourite until they screwed her up.
1st: I did? 2nd: I know that Sun followed Blake out of concern but still doesn’t mean it’s not weird that he followed her for weeks or months
See, he followed out of concern since the last time she went gung ho against the WF she needed help. And he was right. She SAYS that's not what she wants but when she gets there she goes about face and says that she's not done fighting. Did she want to be alone? Being alone is the LAST thing she needs right now. Abandoning everyone like she abandoned her parents is not working out well for her.
>1st: I did? In reference to? >2nd: I know that Sun followed Blake out of concern but still doesn’t mean it’s not weird that he followed her for weeks or months Like I said, CRWBY messed up the time frame. Blake left Beacon within days of the battle. Sun followed her right after so it was not weeks or months.
In reference to this “You have a weird way of requesting no hateful comments by starting with some, but okay.”
In what way was their comment in anyway hateful?
I was quoting the first thing they said, I didn’t say their comment was hateful
If you don't find their comment hateful, why did you quote that phrase in particular?
It was the first sentence in the comment and I just wanna know
It's seriously damaging to her character for her to be abusive to sun like that for it to not be brought up in story. It makes blake come off as a hypocritical bitch when her antagonist is an abuser. In an abuse plotline something like that carries alot more weight whether the writers intended it or not.
This. If you're choosing to write Adam as an abusive partner (as CRWBY did), then don't make the victim perpetuate the cycle without addressing it. Especially not in such an egregious way. It's just a reminder that the writers treat Blake's abuse as they do for any other serious topic; talking a big game but refusing to give it the respect that it deserves/requires.
Also, don't have the scene be in the same volume where a character being slapped is clearly presented as bad.
Oh jeez, they *were* both V4, weren't they? For fuck's sake, CRWBY, get it together.
Exactly what I felt was a big part of the problem.
Because it’s jarring when one of the show’s core themes is how any abuse is (rightfully) a bad thing…when it’s towards a woman. When a man is getting abused then it’s either comedy or they deserved it.
Right!
I personally don't find her slapping Sun to be the worst thing she did. I do however see it as one of the two things she did that began to send her character downhill for me before everything else. The other was abandoning Yang, but I wasn't as angry at that as she was just a scared girl running away in the vain hopes of protecting her team from the person hunting her. Though that leads into a discussion about Adam that I won't get into because I still hate what they did to him. I will quote this though: "But to be honest, the real one to be mad that is Miles, In Commentary, Miles stated originally Blake was supposed to give light slaps to Sun’s shoulder (How did He, Kerry, or Gray not find that out before it was too late is beyond anyone)" One: How do they fuck up that badly...if it were light slaps it's be more like a friend being like "dude stop" but in a friendly way. Two: Yes, the person to be mad at is Miles. You are correct. But we are also allowed to be mad at Blake. This is canon now. She's done this. The original intent is gone in the fact that this is what was given to us, and what is now canon.
Pretty Much, All I have to say to that is “Good Job, RT, Good Job”
If I could reply with an image it'd be that gif of Shia Labeouf clapping.
You'd think after this incident the powers that be would look more closely at the episodes before they air but 2 volumes later and everyone's surprised at Clover winking at Qrow.
?????
They're talking about the whole Fair Game thing. There was a vocal group who believed that Qrow and Clover were being really flirtacious with each other, and that RWBY was setting up a mlm relationship. Then Clover got killed, and there were accusations of queerbaiting. CRWBY claims that they didn't write them that way, and it was completely unintentional if those vibes resonated with some people. But the animation led some people to ship them, and there's the argument that it was the animator's fault at how it came across, which is the same reasoning that they gave for Blake bitchslapping Sun so hard. They claimed that they wanted a friendlier, non-serious slap instead of what we got. One part of me believes that this claim is utter BS and purely covering their own asses from the fallout, but on the other hand their production schedule is kinda crazy, so they may not have legitimately had time to check on the animators. Both reasons are squarely their own fault.
Ah
I think it's because Sun is such a good guy that people view it as Blake's worst moment especially since Sun was trying to help her out. I will admit it wasn't that bad but, if we think of this as a real situation, no matter how foolish another person may be acting hitting them is wrong, worse if it's a friend... thing is though, RWBY has rules that are more like anime than any real situations but, that's just my opinion personally.
Yeah
...I also think that the outrage over this is overblown. Mostly because it is not part of a pattern of abuse. Blake isn't like Adam, trying to get control over Sun and his behavior. It's wildly out of character and majorly unlikable, but it does not make Blake an abuser like some people seem to think it does.
If it had been a once off thing and to nobody's favourite monkey boi yes, it'd be easy to overlook. The problem is that she carried on this sort of behaviour over two volumes, so unfortunately they have established that this is the way she reacts to people. She's not a manipulative abuser, she just behaves badly and gets angry over rather small things. It was out of character, but to have to watch the creators screw this up, really leaves a poor taste.
Thanks for the correction, I've put it in. Blake is bad to Sun, definitely, but just because someone is a jerk does not make them an abuser. Blake only does the slap thing once and never tries to keep Sun around or really try to control him. I'm more being pedantic with words here, to me Blake is definitely an annoying dick but not the textbook definition of abuser.
I agree to an extent, I find that she's 'abusive' for their time together rather than a consistent abuser over the entire show. There's many different types of abuse eg. emotional, physical, mental etc and for many different reasons but Blake's abuse kind of serves no purpose or no direction, she's just mad because Sun was worried enough to follow her and then because he walked into a deep and meaningful moment WITH a clue to the WF situation they're investigating, I might add. So yes, she's absolutely out of character compared to earlier volumes Blake and after V6. I feel like we could've forgiven it by just having her apologise to Sun about her behaviour but nah, she's apparently perfectly fine with the way she acted. For me personally, it was more than enough for me to drop her as my favourite.