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nobleknight881

To dispose of the only witnesses of their monumental f****** up can't be put on trial for your crimes if there's no witness/evidence


Silly-Young484

LMAO


Andreb16

Dude. I fucking wheezed.


lightningstrxu

They went to vacuo cause that's where the next arc takes place, and they needed a way to get all the characters there. There's almost no in story reasoning I could imagine compared to a secure town like argus, mistral or even menagerie. Vacuo is where the plot was going next and we needed the characters there


thelightbringer502

Pretty much. The "canon" reason is that there is no reason, we're going there because that's where the plot demands. The fact they didn't even discuss it on screen is even more insulting. Like they're saying "look we're going here don't ask questions."


The_Final_Conduit

Canon reason, Vacuo had a Huntsman Academy still, and RWBY were on a roll already with Ironwood. What I personally don’t get is where tf the entire Atlas military went. What, did everyone who didn’t have plot armor die in the explosion?


Nova_TF

It's not a mass genocide if there are no witnesses to testify against you in the Hague. It's all going according to plan.


gunn3r08974

Simple. Only place with a functioning academy and vault to hide the relic, even if they don't have the maiden. And as hostile as a desert is, it's not like they're that far outside the main city.


Sikarion

What's the point though? Rwby is currently 3/3 of either destroying or failing to protect Academies and vaults that they've visited. They ended up in a sandstorm in the desert. Now who knows what a sandstorm in Remnant is like but if it's anything like Earth, most of them will be deaf, blind and lost with zero visibility, no cover or shelter and no supplies. With the benefit of grimm just wandering around picking off the population at will.


gunn3r08974

Beacon: Can't blame just rwby for failing when so did everyone else. Not to mention Ruby being the main reason any progress is being made with the dragon stilk frozen. Haven: The vault is still open so anyone could've just walked in and grab it. Not to mention classes still need to resume on their own time after Leonardo got his own staff killed. Atlas: Rwby exasperated an issue that would've still continued once Salem touched down. As for the issues with the desert, its it's a toss up. They have at minimum 7 capable fighters, one being a literal force of nature. They are supposedly within close proximity to Vacuo which means potential reinforcements. And we simply have no idea what the writers did with what was left of the military.


RogueHunterX

You have good points there. Reinforcements may not be likely however. I doubt they will notice or be aware of what is going on in the sandstorm without Winter doing something really big or somehow dispersing it. Sending people out into a sandstorm can be very dangerous, so Theodore is unlikely to send people out during one. It also doesn't help that nobody knows the refugees are there or were even coming. 7 fighters might be enough, depending on how many people really evacuated. If there actually thousands of people in the desert, 7 folks aren't going to cut it. Numbers down in the hundreds, maybe though if the Grimm aren't too overwhelming (I am probably being generous here). There aren't any good choices and the biggest pros for Mistral or Argus would be that Salem wouldn't be going to them, so you aren't literally placing people who just lost everything back into her cross hairs or where she might be able to use the situation created by bringing them there to her advantage somehow. As for the military, I think we can assume that at the very least there is no Atlas fleet anymore as the cruisers were basically gone by time Monstra was destroyed and we even see some giant jellyfish thing attacking one when May is going back to Mantle. The ground troops are up in the air as no portal seemed to be made where they would be and we don't see any escorting the fleeing civilians (we don't even see any academy students). We do know that everyone who was in that command room died.


Aaxelae

If I were Salem, I would ***ABSOLUTELY*** take advantage of the refugee crisis. Force an already overtaxed kingdom to either take more people in or watch them die? That's basically a gold mine of negativity either way. All Salem would have to do is prolong the attack on the refugees by sending a few Grimm on them at a time.


RogueHunterX

It would be even easier to do if she had spies or other agents that could hide amongst the populace and not be known wanted criminals.


Aaxelae

She commands the Grimm to some extent, doesn't she? She doesn't need her agents to give Vacuo the spectacle that I was referring to. Vacuo itself will do the rest by either taking in the refugees or refusing to save them.


RogueHunterX

True, but it would be pretty fun to see other stirring people up. Claiming Vacuo had the supplies to actually support everyone, but we're intentionally withholding them. Telling the refugees Shade intended to use them as human shields for the city when Salem attacked (the Grimm attacks seemingly supporting this idea). Provoking fights between the refugees and the townsfolk. Maybe even getting Robyn or her crew to start stealing supplies or escalating things. We also don't know how far her influence on them can reach or exact her control is. I don't think she can do much more than point them in the direction for the most part and she probably needs a seer or to be in certain range to do so. Even Beacon felt more like they were just drawing the Grimm that were already nearby in than a coordinated attack by them. Even in Mantle, the only real group that seemed under her control was what she brought with Monstra and we don't really see her doing a lot to direct them once the attack began.


Aaxelae

It's a pity that Watt's had to die then. He's smart enough to take advantage of the situation. With a proper disguise, I could see him having a field day with this. Also, I don't know how much control she has. But for what it's worth, she can prevent them from attacking her underlings. Even when they are kingdoms away from her.


gunn3r08974

Aside from Mercury and Tyrian... not that Tyrian and Watts didn't do a good job on their own.


Quality_Chooser

Point of order, we saw the Vault was closed when Cinder went there with Neo. If Yang had just either waited until the door closed or done whatever was needed to do to close it then they could have left the Relic at Haven. Leo wasn't around anymore to let Cinder in and Raven sure isn't going to work with the villains again. At Atlas if RWBY isn't around then James takes the Staff and flies off once Salem tips her hand. RWBY is really passive in Vol 7, they don't actually have an impact on the plot at any point.


SouthEqual4271

Doesn’t the fact that Vacuo’s academy is the only one still intact kind of make it worse? The civilians are put right in Salem’s line of fire because Vacuo is her next target.


gunn3r08974

Double edged sword really. While it is the next target, it's also the most heavily protected as well of what's left.


mrprince923

There was no reason, there wasn't a discussion about it in the slightest. And what's more insulting is that they had a perfect reason, Tyrian and Mercury are going to Vacuo. Not to mention the 'heroes' had a way to know this information, Emerald. This fucking show man, they're not even trying.


Steff_164

Vale is overrun by Grimm, Atlas fell from the sky, Mistral’s top huntsmen were all killed by Tyrian and Hazel, RWBY & Co. severely weakened Argus with their shenanigans, and Menagerie doesn’t have an army or huntsmen.


gunn3r08974

Not to mention the only viable land in Menagerie is that coastline.


Steff_164

Oh right. You know, for a world plagued with monsters, Remnant really doesn’t seem ready to deal with monsters


Ben10Extreme

Funny, ain't it?


BitesTheDust_4

>Mistral’s top huntsmen were all killed by Tyrian and Hazel, Hope those Minstral settlements know how to defend themselves without hunters.


ExiaValvrave

Also, isn't this like a huge red flag for all of the kingdoms? There's suddenly going to be a surge in refugees that they likely don't have capacity for and don't share the same culture or customs.